View Full Version : What does the word "rakish" mean to you?
Sophie
04-16-2002, 07:36 PM
Don't bother looking it up. I know what the dictionary says it means. I'm just curious what you think it means.
peepthis
04-16-2002, 07:47 PM
I imagine a dirty old man. Like Jack Lemmon's dad from "Grumpy Old Men" (Burgess Meredith?).
delphica
04-16-2002, 08:27 PM
"What Rakish Means to Me"
An Essay by delphica
Ok, it's not really an essay. But I use rakish to mean a man who has a sophisticated, almost dangerous, international playboy type attitude, but is in fact a teddy bear underneath. I think it's one of those words that sometimes means almost its opposite -- an actual rake would be a cad, but someone who is rakish is only acting like a rake, but really has a heart of gold.
For some reason, the first thing that came to mind was Jason Priestly -- I always feel like someone in Hollywood believes Jason Priestly comes across as rakish, while in fact he is only goofy. How odd that I can only think of an example of someone who is not rakish to illustrate my meaning.
racinchikki
04-16-2002, 08:46 PM
For some reason, the only thing I associate with "rakish" is "angle of hat."
Supersaurus
04-16-2002, 09:20 PM
I think it means "rough" or "scratchy".
burundi
04-16-2002, 09:23 PM
Ooooh, I always think of a dashing, devil-may-care, slightly naughty young man. Pre-World War II, of course. I can't think of any lovely modern rakish men.
ShibbOleth
04-16-2002, 09:31 PM
Errol Flynn.
Montgomery Clift.
(maybe) Johnny Depp.
amarinth
04-17-2002, 12:43 AM
Rakish- Dashing, devil-may-care, reckless, charming with an air of drama & danger.
Space Vampire
04-17-2002, 02:08 AM
A handsome pirate.
heresiarch
04-17-2002, 02:11 AM
A combination of 'suave' and 'womanizing'
Jervoise
04-17-2002, 02:55 AM
I'm with racinchikki. Setting my fedora to rakish angle as we speak.
Nortia
04-17-2002, 04:41 AM
I'm with amarinth on this one. I also think a rakish man couldn't be short for some reason.
Orual
04-17-2002, 08:09 AM
Rakish: cocky and handsome, with a perpetual smirk; devestatingly charming. i.e Rhett Butler or the Dread Pirate Roberts.
Anahita
04-17-2002, 08:10 AM
Thin and sleek.
I don't know why.
And it only applies to men, in my mind.
gallows fodder
04-17-2002, 08:30 AM
Like ShibbOleth, I think Errol Flynn personifies the word. Dashing, slightly wicked, debonair, and very successful with women.
thinksnow
04-17-2002, 09:01 AM
Heh.
jjimm
04-17-2002, 09:14 AM
Dashing. The angle of the hat gives a wicked-twinkle-in-the-eye persona to the whole person. Think Terry Thomas meets Dirk Bogarde.
Witch
04-17-2002, 09:18 AM
Clark Gable as Rhett Butler.
Rakish is sexxay.
Ukulele Ike. Manhattan. Cajun Man. Dr. Matrix.
istara
04-17-2002, 09:44 AM
Sexy and handsome in a rather dangerous, untrustworthy playboy sort of way. Slightly old-fashioned, but dashing nonetheless. A very white and even-teethed grin. Dark hair and glittering eyes.
Sophie
04-17-2002, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by thinksnow
Heh.
yeah yeah yeah
Humphrey Bogart, with the trenchcoat and hat, smoking a cigar. Actually, rakish to me refers specifically the tilt of his hat.
peepthis
04-17-2002, 11:38 AM
Since my example is so different than everyone else's I thought I'd explain: the first time I ever hear the word "rake" (oh so many years ago) was in reference to Ben Franklin -- since it turns out he had a bit of a naughty streak. From then on, I've always associated the word with uncular, racy old men. Not in a bad way, you understand (hence Burgess Meredith in "Grumpy Old Men").
racinchikki
04-17-2002, 12:09 PM
Oh, and only certain hats can be worn at a rakish angle. Fedoras, definitely. If you're wearing your fedora at a non-rakish angle you're just square. Bowlers/derbies, perhaps, if you're an Avenger or a villain.
peepthis
04-17-2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by peepthis
uncular, racy old men
This word, of course, should be avuncular.
sidle
04-17-2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Eve
Ukulele Ike. Manhattan. Cajun Man. Dr. Matrix.
:D
SUCK-UP!
I initially think of the hat angle, and then sexily naughty, like that old song "Somebody's knockin, should I let em in...it's the Devil...I never dreamed...he'd have blue eyes and blue jeans."
An azure-eyed, denim-clad demon would be "rakish".
Suck-up I may be, Sidle, but I know all four gentlemen intimately and I can assure you that they are not only rakish, but are well worth sucking up to.
DAVEW0071
04-17-2002, 01:54 PM
I also think of the rakish tilt to a fedora. And the attitude that goes with it. Suave, smooth, but not in a dangerous way. A handsome, debonair, stylish man who does not look for trouble, but if trouble finds him, he can deal with it.
A ladies man, definitely, but not a cad. He's got an easy way with women about him, but he is, above all, a gentleman.
In short, a guy like me. :D
burundi
04-17-2002, 09:05 PM
Just out of curiousity, Sophie, why do you ask?
I must go watch Errol Flynn movies now...sigh...
syncrolecyne
04-17-2002, 09:57 PM
I'll take myself out of the running and offer Lord Byron .
mrblue92
04-17-2002, 11:05 PM
As someone who was involved in the original, somewhat more private discussion of the word and its place the vernacular, I'd like to pose a side question...
How many of you think the words "rake" and "rakish" imply some degree of promiscuity?
Caught@Work
04-18-2002, 12:40 AM
Doesn't rakish mean in the style of a rake ala rake-like?
mrblue92
04-18-2002, 12:47 AM
Yes. Just like "fish" means in the style of an "f".
burundi
04-18-2002, 09:07 AM
The word "rakish" implies some degree of promiscuity, but nearly so much as "cad." A rake is someone who might have success with women, but sincerely like them, whereas a cad is a love 'em and leave 'em type. "Rakish" implies even less promiscuity to me, since, as delphica wrote, they're not necessarily a rake, they just act like one. One can be rakish and still be a gentleman. A cad forfeits all claims to gentlemanliness.
thinksnow
04-18-2002, 09:17 AM
Eve
Suck-up I may be, Sidle, but I know all four gentlemen intimately...Wow, uh...how you doin!
Podkayne
04-18-2002, 09:18 AM
Damn. I read the thread title and immediately thought, "Mad, bad, and dangerous to know." But cuate beat me to it.
Fibonacci
04-18-2002, 11:43 AM
I've also heard it used to describe cars, usually with fins, fancy grills or chrome exhausts.
Nowadays, I hear Montgomery Burns using the word to describe something.
Enola Straight
04-18-2002, 12:38 PM
Rakish.
Sounds like some Middle-Eastern opiate-laced clove cigarette.
Actually, I think it just means gaudy beyond good taste.
kumaraka
04-26-2002, 02:29 PM
Rakkish is CLEARLY to be of a Rakk-like nature.
DUH. :p
Sophie
04-26-2002, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Enola Straight
Actually, I think it just means gaudy beyond good taste.
Wow. I think that this definition amuses me more than any of the others.
Oh, this gets me, right where the gettin' is *good*.
Fiver
04-29-2002, 08:52 AM
Rick Blaine in Casablanca is rakish.
Louis Renault in Casablanca is a rake.
And I agree that only certain hats may be worn at a rakish angle.
A 'tuke could never be worn rakishly.
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