X-Files 4/21...what can I say? (spoilers)

[Max Carnage]

Here I've been disliking this final season of X-Files and expecting to continue disliking it, and then they go and do this to me. I was one of the few who loved the Lone Gunmen series and was heartbroken when they cancelled it on a cliffhanger, yet overjoyed when Langley showed up with a blue face back on the X-Files. And now my heart breaks again.

This was the best show of the season. It's so ironic that they called it "Jump the Shark" as this episode did anything but. That they can pull that off without the help of Mulder, Scully, and minimal help from Doggett and Reyes says a lot for the characters they created.

I'm at a loss for what to say, and I feel stupid for getting literally all choked up over tv characters, but...damn.
Rest In Peace, Lone Gunmen. :(

[bobkitty]

I. Hate. Chris. Carter.

TLG deserved much better. ::sniff::

[Max Carnage]

Gotta say though, I was glad to be mislead by the commercials. They specifically said "for ONE of these people" it all comes to an end. From that alone, I never expected any of TLG to be the one.

[Jkayla]

I miss the guys already. I got choked up too. They were characters that gave a twist to tv. They were fun and different. They were intricate. I loved their show too. It's just wrong.

It was extra sad that Mulder wasn't there. He was their closest friend. Their original supporter.

Chris Carter has a lot of making up to do now.

Atleast they are in Arlington..... :( :( :( ***boohoohoo***

[yosemite]

I still don't believe it. I fully expect that somehow, somewhere, they'll show up. Maybe in some future Chris Carter series, or movie.

Because, you know, we never really saw the bodies. We saw coffins, we saw something that would make us assume that they'd died. But you know how it goes in the TV Universe - if you don't actually see rotting corpses (and even then, sometimes) they ain't really dead.

Or, maybe they are. But I choose to not believe it. I was too fond of the Lone Gunman. I know my sister is also heartsick. (She thought that all of them were cute as buttons. So did I. There's something about nerds, you know...)


:( :( :( :( *sniff*

[ResIpsaLoquitor]

I get to be the first to say it! I get to be the first to say it!

...ahem...

The death scene was lifted straight from Spock's sacrifice in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. So were portions of Scully's speech.

...

For the death of three nerds, that's the best they can hope for.:rolleyes:

[gobear]

Yeah, I,too, loved TLG and their spinoof show. It's sad they're gone now, but they died heroically and they were buried in Arlington--can't ask for better than that.

I still want to nail Jimmy Bond.

[MyFootsZZZ]

the writers wanted LGM to do the most heroic thing they could, show these guys were meant to be true heroes before the end of X Files. I think Carter and crew see themselves in the Lone Gunmen. I don't think the crew saw it's ending the same way some people do. I think it ended this way because they care about the character, not because they hate them.

And about Mulder not being there...

I bet ANYTHING the Lone Gunmen will be in the finale. Like Return Of the Jedi and like an X-Files made a while ago called The Blessing Way, they will come back as "spirits", along with others. I'm almost sure they would do something like that.

This episode was great. It had a great idea for a storyline, and it was played out well... although I would try to have the LGM run for the doors that close or have them close faster, and have them cornering the terrorist, so he couldn't just run (which he was sort of the case, but that part could have a bit more realistic somehow, maybe knock the dude out and hit the fire alarm THEN run for the doors and just miss them). But this show had a better story than most this season. I really think this season has been pretty good though. Better than the last 2 seasons IMHO. However, people don't like the fact that Mulder isn't in it. The future (to me) looks bright as well... for this season that is. I'm very excited for a change!! Some people get this feeling for Star Wars, I get it for the finale of the X-Files. Last year I HATED the show.

The Lone Gunmen episode on the X-Files were all GREAT, the series wasn't. It was too slapstick, and SOMEHOW less believable than many X-Files. NO ONE would have the blind play football like that, NO ONE would get $ to set up a pet shop for roaches after getting out of jail. LGM episodes on The X-Files, including this episode, are good.

TRUST ME, LGM will be back for the finale... I don't REALLY know for sure, but I bet they will just knowing CC and his "no one really dies" crud.

[MyFootsZZZ]

How many shows are left

[Smeghead]

Four now, I think.

[Sam Stone]

What makes you think they are dead anyway? The second Carter wants to bring them back, we'll find out that the virus they were exposed to merely mutated them and gave them special powers or something, and the coffins had medical cadavers in them. Then it was all covered up, and they were hauled off to a military prison, which they broke out of, bought a black Boogey Van, and now they travel the country fighting crime as "The X-Team".

[Ranchoth]

Originally posted by Sam Stone
What makes you think they are dead anyway? The second Carter wants to bring them back, we'll find out that the virus they were exposed to merely mutated them and gave them special powers or something, and the coffins had medical cadavers in them. Then it was all covered up, and they were hauled off to a military prison, which they broke out of, bought a black Boogey Van, and now they travel the country fighting crime as "The X-Team".

Hey, that'd STILL be better than "Temptation Island."




Ranchoth

[TV time]

Liked it. During a sad season, it was a breath of fresh air. I will miss the Lone Gunman, though.

[Geek Mecha]

:sigh:

:(

Though I want to say they'll be back in some form or another, it's also kinda old to resurrect characters. They did that for Deep Throat, Krycek, and Cancer Man. It'd be great for TLG to make one final appearance, but I really don't think there's time. The series finale is 2 hours long, which is roughly 90 minutes pure X-Files time. Mulder's coming back. He's going to reveal the Truth (the title of the ep, after all) and be reunited with Scully and the baby. Also, TLG didn't play a major role in his investigations; they only helped periodically. So I see no reason why they'd be brought back.

I think tonight's episode was their final hurrah, and a goodbye to their fans.

[MyFootsZZZ]

They will be back

I would (have) put money on it.

and I think the Finale is a PERFECT time for dead characters to come back, like The Blessing Way

[Honey]

Langley, Byers, Frohike I will miss you my friends :sniff:

Boy, Mulder is going to be pissed!

:(

Am I the only one who thinks they wouldn't want to be buried at Arlington?

:confused:

Note to Chris Carter: Put down crack pipe!!!!


:mad:

[Honey]

Shit, and I did preview. That should say put down the crack pipe.

Crap.

[elf6c]

They are gone. Period.

The show was about how they were- in the end- heroes who were doing the nest they could to make this country a better place. As such Arlington was entirely appropriate.


By the way, this episode was a big F.U. to Fox if you didn't notice.

The Lone Gunmen series started out WAY WAY too slapstick, but then really hit it's stride about episode 4-5 area. Of course then the mouthbreathing morons at Fox cancelled it. Idiots. Is it time for Temptation Island 3 yet?

-me

[tachyon]

I had every episode taped until this season when I decided I won't watch it if Mulder is gone. And then I heard Mulder will be back for the 2 hour finale so I decided to watch just that. But now I'm getting curious. The Lone Gunmen died heroically... how exactly did they die?

[Geek Mecha]

They shut themselves in with a guy who had a deadly virus in him (basically, a living bioweapon). Had they not done this, he would have escaped and exposed thousands of people to the virus.

[Cheesesteak]

They sacrificed themselves to contain a deadly virus, locked themselves in a room with the human "timebomb" so he couldn't get out and infect thousands. A very noble death, to be sure.

It was also sad to see how far they had fallen, no money, no publishing, hocking all of their neat equipment to pay the rent. Even so, they never gave up the fight. I was disappointed that they died in a one-off episode, rather than as part of The Conspiracy.

[ResIpsaLoquitor]

By the way, since when do hotels have BLAST DOORS?

And come to think of it, what kind of architect puts the fire alarm INSIDE the blast doors, guaranteeing that whoever pulls the switch is stuck in there?

[Snooooopy]

Originally posted by ResIpsaLoquitor


By the way, since when do hotels have BLAST DOORS?

And come to think of it, what kind of architect puts the fire alarm INSIDE the blast doors, guaranteeing that whoever pulls the switch is stuck in there?



"This is Tom Bodett from Motel 6 ... we'll leave the blast doors open for ya!"

[av8rmike]

Originally posted by gobear
Yeah, I,too, loved TLG and their spinoof show. It's sad they're gone now, but they died heroically and they were buried in Arlington--can't ask for better than that.

I still want to nail Jimmy Bond.

I'm amazed that with such a male-dominated following such as this show has, no one else has made similar comments for Zuleikha Robinson.

Hottest. Cast member. Ever! :D

[Max Carnage]

Originally posted by av8rmike


I'm amazed that with such a male-dominated following such as this show has, no one else has made similar comments for Zuleikha Robinson.

Hottest. Cast member. Ever! :D

I dunno. She's kinda plain. If I saw her in a grocery store, I wouldn't give her a second glance. Well, maybe if she had one of them gun thingies pointed at me. She is sexy, just not beautiful. Of course that's MHO, YMMV. Gimme Annabeth Gish any day though...rrrrrrowr :D

[scott evil]

Originally posted by gobear
I still want to nail Jimmy Bond.

Honey, take a number and get in line with the rest of us... ;)

- s.e.

[Tars Tarkas]

This is the X-Files, no one is dead until the actor dies. I'd bet your life (not mine ;)) that they show up in the next movie.

[Finagle]

So no one has asked the question I wanted to ask, which is "Um, why the hell is this guy wandering around with a glowing virus wrapped in shark cartilage inside of him?" Did it occur to anyone that this made NO SENSE?

Did this guy want to wipe out the conference for some bizarre reason? OK...just drop a bag o' virus under the refreshment table and leave town. The only reason for putting it inside someone would be to:
a. Smuggle it into some place with very high security (which this didn't appear to be.
or b. If the carrier didn't know he was carrying a virus. Which isn't true, because he was taunting the LGM. Which was pretty sanguine for a guy who was about to have glowing purple goo flowing out of his bodily orifices.

To sum up -- the evil genius arms merchants devised a test for their new delivery system that involved the prime scientists behind that system dying. I'm not sure "genius" is the word I'd use.

Other imponderables... Eva rips this virus bag out of the guy's body and burns it. If there's no leakage of virus, why is the guy's body cavity bioluminescent? And if there is leakage, why isn't Eva writhing on the floor? I'm pretty sure incineration in a wood fire isn't exactly CDC protocol for destroying lethal viruses -- too much chance of some particles being caught in the updraft and being blown free.

[Smeghead]

Explanations and plots that actually hang together are waaaay beyond the current writers.

[Hazel]

I've always been fond of the Lone Gunmen, as they've been portrayed in X-Files. I was disapointed in the Lone Gunmen spinoff. It was too silly.

Assuming that they are actually dead, I'm disapointed that they won't be around for / involved in the finale where "the truth" will (supposedly) be revealed. Speaking of which, while I'm keeping an open mind, I find it hard to beleve that they will answer all the questions and resolve all the contradictions that have accumulated during the show's run in just four episodes.

[drewcosten]

I believe I read somewhere a couple months back that they are going to be in the finale. My guess is it'll be a flashback scene of some sort though based on what the final episode is supposed to be about.

[Bad Hat]

According the fox.com, the finale is actually called "the Truth" and has Mulder called before a military trial of some sort to account for his actions over the years ,and for the existence of the X Files, wherein the "truth" is dragged to light, in defense of mulder's life. So the flashback speculations about TLG reappearing make a lot of sense, really.

It sort of seems interesting, but then you realize- its just the sreies finale of Seinfeld, but with aliens. Is he gonna get Jackie Chiles to represent him?

[borschevsky]

Originally posted by ResIpsaLoquitor


By the way, since when do hotels have BLAST DOORS?

And come to think of it, what kind of architect puts the fire alarm INSIDE the blast doors, guaranteeing that whoever pulls the switch is stuck in there?



Not only that - how did the gunmen know about the blast doors? Virus-guy didn't know, and he would probably have been interested in any nearby air-tight rooms, what with his wanting to kill everybody with an airborne virus and all. And for that matter, why was virus-guy even at the hotel (and how did TLG know he was there)? He's setting off this virus and killing himself in a few minutes - does he also want to keep his last appointment?

It was a pretty good episode for the first while, but what a terrible way to kill them off. Bah.

[bobkitty]

About the meeting-in-the-hotel thing.. I was under the impression that this was a gathering of the nation's top scientists, politicians, etc. The guy that introduced the proceedings made a big deal out of the overall VIP-ness of the soon-to-be-bodies in the room. And security, while not really impressive, was somewhat tight.. how many science conferences have you gone to where they've had an armed guard patting people down and checking badges?

Also, remember that they were in Washington. The virus had a target range of (IIRC) several miles. So virus-guy would wipe out not only all those scientists and politicians, but the rest of the hotel, and everyone in a several-mile radius. So, at least that makes sense.

As for the scientists carrying the virus.. hey, they're terrorists. No one ever said terrorists were smart. They probably figured "Hey, I've got all my notes and stuff here, the process is easily replicable, I'll volunteer to be in the first wave of virus-release and become not only famous, but a martyr to the cause! Neato!" And besides, who the heck would suspect a scientist of carrying a deadly virus?

Can't help on the other stuff, though. Especially the blast doors.. that was just silly. Sorry.

-BK

[DMark]

Originally posted by Bad Hat
According the fox.com, the finale is actually called "the Truth" ..., wherein the "truth" is dragged to light




Finale spoiler:






That Ally McBeal is an alien.

[Troy McClure SF]

Yeah, I have to chime in that the death of Mulder's Nerds™ was a sad day indeed. I only caught part of one episode of TLG and wasn't diggin' it, so I figgered, well, they're great on the X-Files, that's good enough for me.

As for the X-Files, after Mulder left I thought, "Welp, no point watching this now." But I've been trying to keep up this past season. While I like the T-1000 (only a cool liquid-metal guy from the future could come close to replacing Mulder), who the hell are these other chicks? And where the hell's Scully always hiding? Serves me right for missing a year or two of X-Files.

This finale's gotta be good, they couldn't pull a Seinfeld, could they?

[MyFootsZZZ]

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I think Carter said he always knew how the show would end basically. If it is like Seinfeld in any way, I really fear that people will trash the episode for the reason alone. It not like the concept of Seinfeld's finale is so difficult to conjure up. I'm SURE there were stories out there, before Seinfeld was even on TV, that used a courtroom as a way to bring back past cast characters: (IF this is the case of the X-Files). I'm SURE there were stories out there, before Seinfeld was even on TV, that used a courtroom as a way to reminisce about the stories past (IF this is the case of the X-Files).

[BlackKnight]

Originally posted by Bad Hat
According the fox.com, the finale is actually called "the Truth" ...
Great - 90 minutes of anti-tobacco conspiracy theories!

:p

[Smeghead]

Originally posted by BlackKnight

Great - 90 minutes of anti-tobacco conspiracy theories!

:p

*Snort* "Aliens contain AMMONIA!! And RAT POISON!!!"

[Manda-tory]

I have watched the show for years and years from the begining but this season I have not been able to stomach very well. But I have heard that David Duchovny will be an active part in the ending of the series so I wish to catch up in time to understand the last ep. Anyone wish to fill me in a bit? E-mail me please (the last one I saw was of Reyes being half dead in the hostpital and her soul was trapped in the doll house.)
Thank ya much.
Take care. Be well. God Bless**

[elfkin477]

Originally posted by av8rmike


I'm amazed that with such a male-dominated following such as this show has, no one else has made similar comments for Zuleikha Robinson.

Hottest. Cast member. Ever! :D

Maybe it was a mostly male audience, but it isn't any more. At least 70% of the posters on the official x-files boards are women, if that's any indication...