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gobear
08-29-2002, 09:32 AM
Yesterday's New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Comic-Canceled.html) reported that Jackie Mason requested that his opening act at a Chicago comedy club, a comic named Ray Hanania, be dumped from the bill because he was "inexperienced,"not because he was Palestinian.

Today he blamed (http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/29/arts/theater/29JACK.html) it on the comedy club:

"The manager at Zanies canceled the person after being inundated with calls," the statement said. It asserted that Mr. Hanania "apparently sought to exploit the tragic situation in the Middle East with the hope of enhancing his own reputation."


But the comedy club manager and Mason's wife contradicted Mason's story, saying it was because of Hanania's Palestinian ancestry. On the Today Show, Mason said he dumped Hanania because of anti-Semitic writings on Hanania's Web site (http://www.hanania.com).

Mr. Mason, you're a bigot and a liar. The sad thing is that you squandered an opportunity to show that the hatred and bigotry that has poisoned both sides in this conflict can be overcome. Instead, you only showed how hatred has spread to America and your own heart.

You should be ashamed.

World Eater
08-29-2002, 09:38 AM
Yeah I caught that yesterday, it really pissed me off.

LolaCocaCola
08-29-2002, 09:38 AM
Jackie Mason makes me physically ill.

Was he ever funny?

So he's unfunny and a bigot.

WHY does this man have a career?

Skywatcher
08-29-2002, 10:00 AM
I was wondering why he was on Today this morning. I was just looking for the weather and happened upon him but I didn't have time to see what was going on.

I once found him to be very funny, then he did Caddyshack II.

jjimm
08-29-2002, 10:17 AM
I saw him on British TV a couple of months ago, and was seriously unimpressed. His views on the situation in Israel make december look like Ghandi.

astorian
08-29-2002, 10:18 AM
I've caught Ray Hanania's act, and he's a snide, preachy bore. I've also seen Jackie Mason's act, and he's an obnoxious putz.

Frankly, they don't have a drop of talent between them. I feel sorry for anyone who pays good money to be harangued by either of them. I'd feel even SORRIER for anyone who had to see both of them on the same bill.

World Eater
08-29-2002, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by LolaCocaCola
Jackie Mason makes me physically ill.

Was he ever funny?

So he's unfunny and a bigot.

WHY does this man have a career?

Why does Tom Arnold?

Because there are Idiots that pay money to go see this crap, believe it or not.

Captain Amazing
08-29-2002, 10:50 AM
While I wish he wouldn't change his story, Mason has the right to have anybody open for him he wants, and if a potential opening act makes him uncomfortable or he feels it would make his audience uncomfortable or non-receptive, it's his business.

gobear
08-29-2002, 10:58 AM
and if a potential opening act makes him uncomfortable or he feels it would make his audience uncomfortable or non-receptive, it's his business.

Nonsense, that's just cuddling up to bigotry. If we had let the " this makes me uncomfortable" excuse stand, we'd still have segregation and legal discrimination against women in the workplace. IMO, JAckie Mason canning the guy because he's a Palestinian stinks. Now if he had fired the Palestinian because he's a conceited, self-absorbed twerp (as Hanania came across on Today), that would be different. But discriminating solely on his ancestry is just plain wrong.

Snooooopy
08-29-2002, 12:18 PM
I remember (late '80s, I think) when Jackie Mason was starring in "Chicken Soup," which was supposed to be ABC's smash comedy hit of the TV season. And it SANK like a fucking STONE.

UrbanChic
08-29-2002, 12:32 PM
Snoo<however many Os belong here>py, thank you. I was wondering why I thought of chicken soup each time I heard Mason's name!

december
08-29-2002, 03:47 PM
I heard Hanania on radio tghis morning. I found him moderately funny and pleasant to listen to. He's no Jackie Mason, but who is?

One interviewer pointed out that this fuss will do more for Hanania's carer than appearing at the comedy club would have.

BTW he will be appearing at that club next week.

Jackmannii
08-29-2002, 05:57 PM
Does Hanania really tell thigh-slappers about hostage-taking? Man, show me where to buy those tickets.

"He's no Jackie Mason, but who is?" Hopefully, nobody.


The two of them on stage simultaneously might have been an entertaining freak show, though.

december
08-29-2002, 06:16 PM
He told jokes that contrasted his Palestinian background with his wife's Jewish background.

Biggirl
08-29-2002, 06:22 PM
I saw Mason say that it was the club owner who canned the opening act. He also said he was thinking of suing the comedian for defamation.

Didn't see the part where Mason changed his story. I kinda agree with the Cap'n there. Only I think that if you are going to be a bigot, at least be an upfront one and not a sneaky, pass-the-buck one.

At least our pal december has the courage of his convictions. It seems that Jackie knew it was a nasty, bigoted thing to do, did it any way and now is trying to weasel out of any repercussions.

Paul in Qatar
08-30-2002, 02:33 AM
I thought Jackie had died a Long Time Ago. He certainly looked ill on TV. Did you see his puffy white-as-a-sheet face with little triangular eyes?

The worst plastic surgery job since Jocko. Really gruesome.

(On the plus side, we can now say he really does talk like that all the time.)

Typo Negative
08-30-2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by december
One interviewer pointed out that this fuss will do more for Hanania's carer than appearing at the comedy club would have.

Oh, the irony. You gotta love it.

december
08-30-2002, 09:20 AM
Here's (http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/46999.htm) another slant on what happened. This columnist says that Hanania's comedy is offensive and he was dropped from the program due to objections by many Chicago Jews.

He gives these examples from Hanania's political writing (NOT from his comedy performance.) * Sharon and Hitler "both share that same megalomania that set Hitler apart on a level of unparalleled cruelty."

* Rumsfeld "is subservien[t] to the powerful pro-Israel lobby, which may not occupy the West Bank and Gaza Strip, in his view, but certainly does occupy the U.S. Congress. It now seems the Israeli lobby also controls Rumsfeld."

* "Bush will no longer hold impromptu press conferences. His staff says the president needs at least three days to translate the documents from Hebrew into English before he will read them to the press."

Skywatcher
08-30-2002, 02:21 PM
http://www.hanania.com/
Hanania's primary role model in comedy is the popular television Arab stand-up comic, Jerry Seinfeld.
I never could "get" Seinfeld, which probably explains why I don't get this:
As Arab Jews, they are Sephardic, which means Jerry Seinfeld is half Arab. I like to think the half that is Arab is the humor and creative side.

The term "yadda, yadda, yadda" is actually an Arab phrase. When translated literally, it means "Leave the guy with the big nose and olive skin alone. He's a mensch."

Of course, that is too difficult to translate into English. Imagine, Jerry, Kramer, George and Elaine having to say that on the show instead of the shortened, Arabian version, "Yadda, yadda, yadda."

"Why do they call it an airport 'terminal?' Isn't that a little too pessimistic for us as a society ...? Why don't they call it something else? Something more positive? Like, an Airport Hooka ... I have to go to the Airport Hooka to catch a plane ..."

Isn't Elaine Arab, too? She looks it ...

Sounds like this guy's been spending too much time at the hookah.

Mojo
08-30-2002, 02:55 PM
I'm not sure what "Tsuris" means, but if it's Yiddish for "overwhelming urge to change the TV channel when he appears" I'm with ya.

Efrem
08-30-2002, 03:52 PM
Here is a BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2222995.stm) story on the event. "It's not exactly like he's just an Arab American. This guy's a Palestinian," Mason's manager Jyll Rosenfeld said.

"Jackie does not feel comfortable having a Palestinian open for him. Right now it's a very sensitive thing, it's just not a good idea."Wow, for whatever the reason Hanania was axed, I do have advice for Jackie. Fire that manager of his, for (extremly) gross stupidity. How could he possibily think this would make a good soundbyte?