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Intaglio
09-01-2002, 02:48 PM
Can anyone tell me if there has been a merge of Classical Music & Heavy Metal/Hard Rock have come together, played and recorded a CD.
I know of two:
Metallica and San Francisco Symphony - S&M CD, which I have.
and
The Scorpions and Berlin Orchestra/Symphony - I don't know the title, but I'm interested on how this sounds, I limke the Scorps.
I always thought the Classical and Heavy Metal/Hard Rock would sound good together.
Any more.
Rhum Runner
09-01-2002, 03:06 PM
I wouldn't call it "Heavy Metal" but there was a symphonic Pink Floyd album I saw once... Never heard it though.... quick amazon search yields....
Us and Them (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000040UZ/qid%3D1030910380/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-5696644-4291852)
Coldfire
09-01-2002, 03:40 PM
The album Dead Winter Dead by Savatage has a lot of classical interludes, and metal/orchestra songs.
When looking at the music structure of (mainly prog) rock, there are a lot of similarities with classical music. It's no wonder the two mix well. Listen to Beethoven: he was the metal composer of his time.
ultrafilter
09-01-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Coldfire
When looking at the music structure of (mainly prog) rock, there are a lot of similarities with classical music. It's no wonder the two mix well. Listen to Beethoven: he was the metal composer of his time.
Definitely.
Prog metal is alive and well, if a little hard to find. The only two bands that I know of that I would put in that genre are Tool and The Dillinger Escape Plan. Although they both use typical instrumentation (guitar, bass, drums, and vocals), they have very complex song structures.
There's a symphonic album of Led Zeppelin songs as well.
Coldfire
09-01-2002, 06:12 PM
Well, well, last I heard bands like Rush and Dream Theater were still rocking hard, and they're definitely "prog" in my book.
Of course, Tool is awesome. Gotta check out those Dillinger guys, I suppose!
Lockfist
09-01-2002, 06:13 PM
You obviously need to check out Apocalyptica (http://www.apocalyptica.com/).
These guys cover Metallica, Pantera, Sepultura, and some others with some seriously plugged-in cellos. I think you'll really enjoy it. Plenty of full-song samples on their website.
Coldfire
09-01-2002, 06:22 PM
Ah, good suggestion! Their Metallica covers are just awesome.
Guinastasia
09-01-2002, 08:14 PM
What about G'N'R's "November Rain"? Didn't they use an orchestra in that?
Coldfire
09-01-2002, 08:20 PM
Well, yeah, but if we're gonna count every Michael Camen orchestration, we're gonna be here all night! :)
I can name Mchael Camen participations in GNR songs, Queensryche songs, Rush songs, Bryan Adams songs...
Ximenean
09-01-2002, 09:10 PM
Another one is Deep Purple and the London Philharmonic's Concerto for Group & Orchestra (rather you than me)
ultrafilter
09-01-2002, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Coldfire
Of course, Tool is awesome. Gotta check out those Dillinger guys, I suppose!
Definitely. I only have their self-titled EP, but it's totally awesome, even if it does take a while to get into.
Mr. Blue Sky
09-02-2002, 09:17 AM
Did Robert Plant & Jimmy Page do some Led Zep music with an orchestra?
Intaglio
09-02-2002, 09:23 AM
I wonder how AC/DC would sound played with an Orchestra or Symphony.
Always thought Metallica would sound good with their music done with the Symphony, I have heard a couple of Scorpions with a orchestra on "Rock You Like A Hurricane" and "Wind Of Change", that was really good.
I've heard "November Rain", by GnR.
But, I'm talking about a whole catalog of music by a band done with a Symphony, or Orchestra.
I do like Tool, need to check more on them.
Coldfire
09-02-2002, 09:49 AM
At one stage, there were rumours of a full album of classical verions of Rush songs, but I haven't heard anything about it in a year or two.
Joe_Cool
09-02-2002, 11:49 AM
The merge makes perfect sense, since classical guitar was a major component of metal guitar. Take a close listen to some of the stuff that was big in the early 80s.
Cap'n Crude
09-02-2002, 02:08 PM
Two words. Yngwie Malmsteen. Seek him out, and your question will be answered.
RealityChuck
09-02-2002, 02:33 PM
In the album Classic Case, the London Symphony Orchestra plays the music of Jethro Tull. Since Tull won a Grammy for best heavy metal artist, this fits. :)
One I haven't heard in years: Mass in F Minor (http://members.tripod.com/~shadwell/mass.html) by The Electric Prunes (http://www.electricprunes.com/). I thought it was great back in 1970 or so, but YMMV.
tanstaafl
09-02-2002, 03:31 PM
RealityChuck - I was working for a radio station when A Classic Case came out. We had it labled as "Freight Elevator Music".
Sacrilegium
09-03-2002, 05:42 AM
Check out:
Therion: "Theli"
Sobre Nocturne: "Serpentine Dreamweaver"
Devil Doll: any, especially "The Sacrilege Of Fatal Arms"
I highly recommend that you go to www.darksymphonies.com and sign up for their mailing list. They sell a lot of symphonic and eclectic metal music. Their catalog updates describe most of the releases in good detail and I'm sure you'd find something that interests you.
Edward The Head
09-03-2002, 08:53 AM
Well Coldie got Savatage, but he forgot to go the other way and say Trans Siberian Orchestra. Some of the guys, though I don't know which ones, from Savatage do TSO as well. I only have one album that I haven't really listened to. I'm thinking about going to one of the shows that'll be in Baltimore around X-Mas.
Helloween also does classical pieces on a number of their albums, usually as the first song. Golden Earring has used classical musicians on a few albums as well. I also understand the Manowar has done the same thing on their latest.
I'd really like to hear some Motorhead done by an orchestra, that would be intersting.
Intaglio
09-03-2002, 01:36 PM
I want to here the artist, perform with the symphony,
ala Metallica S/M CD.
I want to here Ozzy/Black Sabbath
and
AC/DC
the other suggestions were good, I'll check them out.
Originally posted by Coldfire
At one stage, there were rumours of a full album of classical verions of Rush songs, but I haven't heard anything about it in a year or two.
Rumor no more -- go to amazon.com and search for "string quartet rush"
Last year Yes{/b] released their latest CD "Magnification", recorded with a full orchestra. (They got sick of replacing keyboard players every two years, I guess.) They even took the orchestra out on the road with them.
And who could forget the infamous 1979 tour by [b]Emerson, Lake & Palmer where they spent a month touring with orchestra, with heavy emphasis on "spent". They lost a fortune and broke up for 12 years as a result.
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Opengrave
09-03-2002, 02:00 PM
Dave Lombardo (Ex Slayer) did some classical stuff. Vivaldi - The Meeting is 100% classical (symphony type stuff) with Dave on Drums.
I agree with the Therion and Trans-Siberian Orchestra suggestions.
None of these are artists with a full symphony but definitely good stuff.
NP: Amon Amarth - The Crusher
slortar
09-03-2002, 02:53 PM
Hm. Scatterbrain and the Great Kat both did classical stuff on their albums, if you can put up with the 80's hair metal hokeyness...
Iguana Boy
09-03-2002, 05:32 PM
I have Metallica's S&M and the Scorpions with the Berlin Philharmonic.
I prefer the Scorpions but both albums are good.
I also have a weird album called Angelica, which is a fusion of classical/opera music with rock guitars! Steve Vai and Eric Johnson are both on it.
It is quite difficult to find this album now, so if you have a problem, get in touch and I'll see if I can help!
Iggy
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