Dammit, next time I'm checking "sane" on the roommate request form!

[Angel of the Lord]

I don't have much time before I have to go to class, so I will forgo flowery, witty prose here and just give you the basic facts:

Angel has lots of books about Wicca in her room. [/b]Angel[/b]'s roommates have seen these books. They assume that because of these books, she will be more open-minded than the rest of the campus. Therefore, they tell Angel a big secret:

They're part of a huge battle between light and darkness. They have battles on the astral plane. One of them is going to rule the universe for a thousand years about two incarnations down the road. There are anime guys all around on the spiritual plane. They're soul sisters. Their soul brother is Caine (yes, for you gamers, the same Caine from Vampire: The Masquerade). And Alistair Crowley is trapped in our residence hall's chapel.

:eek:

Riiiiight.

Either they're trying to fuck with me because I'm Wiccan (Christian Wiccan, in fact, but they don't know that), or they're freaking insane. Either way, I find that my beliefs have been insulted, and I wish that our university allowed students the option of choosing a sane roommate.

Wiccan != stupid
Wiccan != insane

:: screams ::

[fluiddruid]

People like this are why I gave up on Paganism. The ancient religions hold interest for me; the modern breed of suburban idiot does not. I got tired of being associated with, let alone associating with, these people.

[dantheman]

Well, if they're actually insane and believe what they told you, then they haven't actually insulted your beliefs. Or at least it's possible they haven't done so intentionally...

[Trob]

Christian Wiccan? Please explain. I thought they were mutually exclusive.

[Trob]

Christian Wiccan? Please explain. I thought they were mutually exclusive.

[Helen's Eidolon]

Wow.

That's pretty... uh... 'scuse my language, fucking crazy/

[Giraffe]

So they're still doing drugs at college, eh?

[Eonwe]

I've got to agree with dantheman, if they really mean what they say then no offense was given, and none should be taken; it's just their belief system.

Or they're mocking you, in which case they're assholes.

[/\/\etalhea|)]

Reason #1412 why I'm a Solitary Druid.

[Mort Furd]

Originally posted by Giraffe
So they're still doing drugs at college, eh?
Originally posted by Eonwe
Or they're mocking you, in which case they're assholes.
Combine the two, and you've got the most likely description:
The doped up assholes are mocking you.

[Homebrew]

They're part of a huge battle between light and darkness. They have battles on the astral plane. One of them is going to rule the universe for a thousand yearsAt this point they sound Christian, or at least the more evangelical, fundamentalist part of it.

[photopat]

I agree. They're trying to fuck with you. So, go them one better. Try to freak them out. Keep a pigs head in your fridge for a while or something. Claim it's for a sacrifice, then use it in some soup when they're not around.

[Angel of the Lord]

Originally posted by Homebrew
At this point they sound Christian, or at least the more evangelical, fundamentalist part of it.

They *are* Christian. I went to Mass with them last year, and they both told me they were when they explained all of this to me. Also, I know that neither of them does anything harder than the occaisional beer.

Originally posted by Eonwe
I've got to agree with dantheman, if they really mean what they say then no offense was given, and none should be taken; it's just their belief system.

I know; the thing is--and maybe I'm being a skosh close-minded here--I don't see any way that they could honestly believe this. I mean, I've been friends with them for a while now, and they didn't *seem* to be completely insane. Though, even if they do believe it, I take some offense...like fliuddruid and others, I hate being associated--even unintentionally--with nutcases like that.

Originally posted by Trob
Christian Wiccan? Please explain. I thought they were mutually exclusive.

I'd type out a response here, but that'd be quite a bit of a hijack. However, I've already attempted to answer that here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2339904#post2339904). Enjoy.

[Gozu]

I always thought wiccans were insane. But they are mighty entertaining. Not stupid though, just insane.

[clairobscur]

Well....either they're pulling your leg, either I would try to find other roomates. Not that this belief system is in itself more nonsentical than christianism or any other religion (though including a character from a role playing game is a bit over the top), but I would seriously question the sanity of someone who would make up his own belief system except if this system is only a variant of a well-known one (and except if he intends to found a religion of his own and become rich).

[clairobscur]

Here's (http://www.louvre.fr/francais/collec/oa/ms0084/oa_f.htm) a picture of the so-called "Joyeuse"...

[clairobscur]

Sorry...wrong thread...

[agentfroot]

You know what, that's just wrong. I'm sick of the Wiccan stereotypes and all the insults/mockery that go with them. I'm also a Wiccan college student (semi-Christianized, as in "I like Jesus, but I like Athena too"), and I'm fed up with people asking stupid questions about my beliefs and thinking I'm insane because of my religion. Last year my roommate was fairly open-minded, yet she was still sort of freaked out. This year, I fortunately have my own room (I was supposed to have a roommate, but she's rooming elsewhere so I have a big double all to myself for the time being.), so I can express myself without people asking "Do you believe in God?" or "Are you going to cast a spell on me?" Sorry your roommates are inconsiderate and irritating. Perhaps you could arrange to change rooms.

[Garfield226]

quoth agentfoot
I'm fed up with people asking stupid questions about my beliefs and thinking I'm insane because of my religion.

You know, it's too bad you don't want to share your religion with others. How selfish.

The Wiccan religion is not well known. Therefore, people are going to have misconceptions. While I agree they should stop short of making fun of you, I don't agree that they should stop asking you questions. Aren't we fighting ignorance.

Questions which may seem like stupid questions to you may be perfectly legitimate. Is "What is two plus two?" a stupid question? How about if it's being asked by a four year old?

Then you add in "semi-Christianized" and make it even MORE complicated. I don't know what that means, "you *like* God, but you like Athena too"? So you think God exists, you just don't believe everything he says, or what? Your religion is confusing. If you don't want to share it with others, then fine, but don't get on their cases for trying to pursue knowledge.

[jjimm]

If there was only one of them, I'd say it looks like classic schizophrenia - delusions of grandeur, secret connection with people who are fictional and/or famous, desperate struggle with evil.

However, since is more than one, I'd suggest they are indeed fucking with you.

[The Tim]

A former friend from high-school has a similiar belief system. He kept talking about getting jumped by punks on the astral plane, building better shielding and altering the root level of reality. He too used the White Wolf games in his beliefs, if only to help explain things. There were lots of funny things that came out of his lunacy.

For instance:

Once when his first girlfriend (who he lated stalked and insisted made him impure because he lost his virginity to her) was at his house just hanging out he got a really intense look. He told her to be quiet, layed his hands upon her head and when he removed them nodded and looked quite satisfied. "I just removed the tracers that the oblivion wizards placed on you. They've been trying to find me to corrupt me. Ironically that was the plot of a video game I just rented."

After we helped him move out from a place he was renting he mentioned that he was going to curse the place "Because I can do such things." No one decided to correct him.

His metaphysics involved a vague, and bad, computer metaphor as well as some nebulous "energy" that was supposed to get everything done. It sounded remarkably like the sort of paradigms you get from bad Mage players.


Now the thing is none of this was enough to break the friendship. Sure he was a nut job but no one is totally sane. It was only when he started being a total ass to another of my friends and making scenes in public to belittle the other friend that my friends and I decided we were sick of him.

So the moral of the story is that yes they can believe that but it doesn't mean they are going to be asses or bad friends. One added bonus of people who believe in their own supernatural abilities is that if you piss them off there is a pretty good chance they'll just try cursing you instead of doing anything productive.

[ApeHead]

Originally posted by Angel of the Lord

Either they're trying to fuck with me because I'm Wiccan (Christian Wiccan, in fact, but they don't know that), or they're freaking insane. Either way, I find that my beliefs have been insulted, and I wish that our university allowed students the option of choosing a sane roommate.


Well, there is another possibility... they could be right :)

I don't buy it though-- not for a minute. They're fucking with you.