View Full Version : How do old tires degrade?
sunbear
03-12-2000, 01:07 PM
Well, we don't lick the tables afterall.
You can buy shredded tire as mulching. I think there is some risk of it melting in hot sun. No idea what all would leach out, but the rubber is relatively harmless.
Cowboy Greg
03-12-2000, 04:11 PM
This link (http://www.sare.org/san/htdocs/hypermail/html-home/18-html/0259.html) goes into some detail on the subject. Apparently the big problems with shredded tires is the zinc, which can be toxic to plants, and the sulfur, which acidifies the soil. You may want to reconsider using them. The rubber itself is not a problem; apparently one of the ways that old tires degrade is from microbes eating them.
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SanibelMan
03-12-2000, 10:46 PM
I will warn you that our school uses shredded tires around the playground areas, and they stink to high heaven. Just so you know ahead of time.
MiXiM
03-13-2000, 12:02 AM
I would like to use old tires in my organic garden as landscaping. I would never consider using the accepted standard of pressure treated wood because of the toxic chemicals that will bleed out of it. Then someone suggested that tired may also degrade into less than nice things to eat. Does anyone know what chemicals old tired will break down into? I figure they can't be all that toxic becase you see serface dumps of old tirs all the time. But then people build picnic tables out of pressure treated wood. Hmmm...
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03-13-2000, 08:00 PM
Also, if you have a serious latex allergy you won't want to have the tires too nearby...just something to think about.
Where do you get your information about the pressure treated wood leaching? Did you just assume, or is there a source? (I was going to sink pressure-treated wood planks around my raspberries to keep 'em from spreading where I don't want 'em. I assumed the problem of leaching would be minimal - not nonexistent, but minimal.)
Spoke
03-14-2000, 07:13 PM
How do old tires degrade?
They leer and whistle at shapely young tires.
Originally posted by MiXiM:
How do old tires degrade
Belittling and Slander are two of the ways (that tires and hubcaps and steering wheels degrade. They degrade one another and then can't ride away.
Sentinel
03-16-2000, 08:10 PM
One thing that lumber companies don't tell you is that some of the pressure treated wood -- the green colored stuff that seems to feel wet for ages, I believe -- is treated with arsenic. Yeah, nice huh? Use it in your garden without a barrier and you'll be leaching a poison into your vegetables. Check with your supplier before buying any pressure treated wood because all such woods have chemicals infused into them to act as a preservative.
ZenBeam
03-17-2000, 12:25 AM
My wife likes the GardenWeb (http://www.gardenweb.com/) forum for gardening questions. You might try asking there.
We used pressure treated lumber to frame our garden beds, and I put plastic sheeting between the wood and the garden soil, so any chemicals which leached out wouldn't get into the garden soil.
Supposedly, there is plastic umber,made from recycled food grade plastic, which would last a long time. I've never seen it, and it's supposed to be expensive.
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ZenBeam
03-17-2000, 12:26 AM
That's lumber, not umber, of course.
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