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Johnny L.A.
03-17-2000, 09:57 PM
I was just watching a documentary on the Bismark. After it was sunk, footage showed an assembly of British Naval members. One called for three cheers: "Hip! Hip! Hip!" and the crowed yelled "Hurray!" This, of course, was repeated twice. Then the officer yelled, "And the tiger! Hip! Hip! Hip!... HURRAY!"
What is the origin of "the tiger"? Why is it called that?
In the U.S., people would yell "Hip!" twice before the "Hurray!" Why was it said thrice before the cheer? Does the "Hip!" have a meaning; or is it like "Ready, steady... GO!"?
Alphagene
03-17-2000, 10:12 PM
Does the "Hip!" have a meaning
Was "hip hip hurrah" originally an anti-Semitic taunt? (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_241b.html)
Can't find anything about the tiger.
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funneefarmer
03-18-2000, 05:27 AM
From HISTORY OF THE THIRTY-FIRST INFANTRY (http://www.usgennet.org/~iljacksn/31hist.htm)
""Three cheers for the Thirty-first!" But the "boys" were not going to cheer for themselves and there were no others present to do it, so they stood in their ranks, silent and with military air, and cheered not nor stirred; whereupon the General shouted, "Cheer yourselves, boys! Hip! Hip!" and then the cheers were given with a will, followed by a "tiger" for the Union, and three groans for the Confederacy."
Which just tends to muddy the water even more considering this use predates the Bismark. It does seem to be a military related though.
Johnny L.A.
03-18-2000, 09:18 AM
WAG: Could the "tiger" refer to a trophy brought back by the British occupiers of India?
"Three cheers for the hunting party, and one for the tiger who lead us such on a merry chase!"?
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Little Nemo
03-18-2000, 09:37 AM
Obviously not the original use of the line, but I remember hearing a genie say "three cheers and a tiger for me" in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
funneefarmer
03-18-2000, 11:27 AM
Bingo !
Three cheers and a Tiger (http://www.amtma.com/33articles/cheerdom.html)
"The most compelling evidence, however, is what may be found in John Russell Bartlett's A Glossary of Words and Phrases Usually Regarded as Peculiar to the United States, published in Boston in 1859. The following account will no doubt answer what a tiger actually was and is:
Tiger. In 1822, the Boston Light Infantry, under Captain Mackintosh and Lieut. Robert C. Winthrop, visited Salem and encamped in Washington square; and during their stay a few of the members indulged in sports incidental to camp duty, when some visitor exclaimed to one who was a little rough, "Oh, you Tiger!" It became a catch word, and as a term of playful reproach, "You're a Tiger," was adopted as one of the peculiar phrases of the corps. On the route to Boston some musical genius sung an impromtu line, "Oh, you Tigers, don't you know," to the air of "Rob Roy McGregor oh!" Of course the appellation soon induced the Tigers by name to imitate the actions of the Tiger, and the "growl" was introduced, and at the conclusion of three cheers, "a tiger" was invariably called for. [begin quote] In 1826, the Infantry visited New York, being the first volunteer corps to make a trip from this city to another State; and while there the Tigers at a public festival awoke the echoes and astonished the Gothamites by giving the genuine howl. It pleased the fancy of the hosts, and gradually it became adopted on all festive and joyous occasions, and now "three cheers and a tiger" are the inseparable demonstrations of approbations in that city. - Boston Evening Gazette [1856] [end quote]"
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