Reccommend any good alternative/metal/whatever bands?

[Kombucha'ShroomPerson]

Uh, the title says it all, really. Does anyone know of any good alternative/metal (whatever-I'm no good at defining music into genres*) bands they think I should look into? I find myself with disposable income that has ALBUMS written all over it, and I wondered if you good people had any suggestions?

*Basically, I'm looking for music thats best played loud, and is angry. As a few examples, my top three most-listened-to bands ATM are probably The Dillinger Escape Plan, (hed)p.e. and Queens of the Stone Age.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

System of a Down is probably along the lines of what you're looking for.

Also check out Tool.

[Kombucha'ShroomPerson]

I've already got both SOAD albums. (I took my username from one of their songs - 5 points for knowing which one!)

Tool too, I have. Very cool.

Still, thanks for your help :).

[Badtz Maru]

Jack Off Jill has become one of my favorite bands recently, but that's just based on 3 songs off of their 'Covetous Creature' EP, which I believe is a remix of earlier versions of the songs. Anyway, the songs 'Poor Impulse Control', 'Girl Scout', and 'American Made' are all great.

[Frenzy1023]

Lets see... Angry and Loud....

I would start with Avail, and pick an album, personaly my favorite is "Over the James" but "4AM Friday" would do nicely. The new album by Hot Water Music is oustanding. I believe its their epitaph release which, if i am not mistaken, is also the home of Dillenger Escape Plan. Fear Factory's Demanufacture was nu-metal before the crap we have now. Boy Sets Fire's "After the Eulogy" is another one(excellent band to see live as well). I always thought Pennywise's "About Time" or "Full Circle" sounded kinda angry and makes for good loud music. If you really want something out their but good, try Atari Teenage Riot's "Burn Berlin Burn". Hehe, they sample Kreator riffs, mixed with lots of industrial noise. Thats about all I got. I listen to lots of music loud, just I wouldnt call Alkaline Trio, Flogging Molly or Stiff Little Fingers really angry.

[ultrafilter]

Here's a similar thread (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126260&highlight=metal) that I started a while back on the same topic.

I second the recommendation for Jack Off Jill, and if you like them, you should check out Rasputina.

[fizgig]

I saw Trapt (http://www.trapt.com/) last night. Pretty good. Reminded me of Screaming Trees for whatever reason.

[Tanaqui]

I don't listen to much metal, more in the punk genre myself, but I heard Curl Up And Die with Thrice this Halloween, and I think they're pretty good if you're into that kind of thing. The songs have hilarious long names and the singer screamed them out at the speed of light... A little too incoherent for me, though it's virtually impossible to tell the guy is saying anything and not just screaming his heart out. Maybe y'all like that sort of thing though.

Good Riddance
and
Strike Anywhere
and
the Refused

are all more on the hc political punk side of things but are all good fun if you can blank out on some of the more fanatical tin-foil hat anti-government bits. Of the above, I personally prefer Good Riddance the most.

I also worship Thrice... melodic hardcore, but pretty angry in some parts. I believe the music is heavily influenced by metal in some ways.

A lot of punk/hardcore gets pretty angry in parts, but I don't know if you're into that so I'll shut up... otherwise I could go on forever. I can reel off dozens of names.

Tanaqui

[Kombucha'ShroomPerson]

Jack Off Jill
Avail
Hot Water Music
Boy Sets Fire
Pennywise
Atari Teenage Riot
Rasputina.
Trapt
Curl Up And Die
Thrice
Good Riddance
Strike Anywhere
the Refused

Woah, thats plenty to be looking in to. Thanks guys :), keep them coming though, please...

Alkaline Trio I saw them play last year Frenzy1023. I liked them, but I'm not so keep on their albums, for some reason. They seem to lack the energy they have live, IMHO.

A lot of punk/hardcore gets pretty angry in parts, but I don't know if you're into that so I'll shut up...

No no, punk/hardcore good. By all means recommend some.

[Tanaqui]

My favorite subject! Seriously, I am a major fangirl and could go on forever.

Propogandhi and Anti-Flag. More political punk but certainly very angry!

Surely you've heard (of) the Dead Kennedys? I don't like them myself, but they're certainly revered in some circles.

If you don't mind some less angry stuff that can be played loud, AFI is my current love. Some of their older stuff is "harder" so to speak.

Operation Ivy is legendary and definitely angry at times though here I'm definitely veering into the lighter sides of things... they're often known as one of the first bands to integrate ska into punk.

The following are bands I don't listen to myself but are generally well regarded from what I've read. You may want to give them a try if you like.

Minor Threat
Fugazi
Killswitch Engage
Avenged Sevenfold
Strung Out
Tsunami Bomb

If you like any of these bands I've mentioned, just go to their websites and check out the links page. Most of them have links to their favorite bands and bands they've toured with. The punk community is pretty close knit.

Tanaqui

PS: If you check out any of these bands and like 'em, please do post... I'd love to know I've made a convert! :)

[Kyomara]

SHELLAC

SHELLAC

SHELLAC

Angry asshole producer of numerous indy rock legends fronts super-tight kick-ass rock 'n' roll band. Accept no substitutes. Sample lyric:

Eat yourself out of house and home
Go home, there's nothing there, because
You ate yourself out of house and home
Throw up. Do it again.

Make a meal of nothing at all.
WHY?? It makes you feel better.
The only thing in your life you own.
It's alright, if it makes you feel better.

Cut yourself up and down your arms.
Both arms, if it makes you feel better.
They're your arms, and it's none of my business.
It's none of my business, if it makes you feel better.


Angry enough for you?

[penny dreadful]

Originally posted by ultrafilter
I second the recommendation for Jack Off Jill, and if you like them, you should check out Rasputina.

I saw Rasputina in concert about a month ago. I've loved them for years, but their live performance was even better than I expected. Some of their harder stuff definitely fits the OP's stipulations, but I prefer their slower songs, which are, at times, heartbreakingly beautiful.

I had never even heard of the opening act: Lennon. But she was loud, angry... and amazing. Imagine if one of the girls from Lilith Fair decide to start an industrial band and that might give you some idea of her sound. She had an enchanting voice, intelligent lyrics, and such energy! I bought her album 5:30 Saturday Morning last week, and it's quickly become one of my favorites. It's expecially good for rocking out on the way to work in the morning.

[Cubsfan]

Christ, DEP is about as insanely heavy as you can get. Nothing anyone here lists is gonna be able to touch that.

I am really suprised by Mudvaynes new one. It is really good. Much better than LD 50. Also check out Living Sacrifices new one.

Man, I am trying to think of any band that can beat DEP in sheer heaviness and insanity but none can. You do have thier newest one that came out a month or so ago right? The one with Mike Patton doing all the vocals?

[Cubsfan]

BTW hed(pe) sux my left nut. Can't believe I am seeing them in the same sentence as DEP. Killswitch Engage is pretty good for about a week, but then you get tired of it.

[NoClueBoy]

God Lives Underwater


for some older punkish stuff still good: Revolting Cocks

[Bindrah]

i've got a few...

shelter
agnostic front(eighties)
madball
at the drive in
cause for alarm
theexploited(early to late eighties)
7 seconds
most precious blood
hot water music
coheed and cambria

look the list goes on and on...check out these sites and message boards

victory.com
pahardcore.com
equalvision.com
revelation.com
]
from there you'll find links and others of similar interests...i personally back up pahardcore because of the politics and society message board, lots of intelligent people debating and sharing, come by and enjoy...email for more bands i have much music ranging from jazz,indian ragas,rock and so forth...i love all types that isn't just a carbon copy of the next...

[Bindrah]

oh by the way, a band that WILL beat dep is the cro-mags, those guys were heavy and insane in the early eighties and were singing about krishna in many of the songs...check them out if you doubt it...

[hardygrrl]

Type O Negative

Mucky Pup

[Cubsfan]

Originally posted by Bindrah
oh by the way, a band that WILL beat dep is the cro-mags, those guys were heavy and insane in the early eighties and were singing about krishna in many of the songs...check them out if you doubt it...

Have you even heard DEP? I have heard Cro-Mags, back in the day anyway, and they don't even put a dent in the insanity that is DEP. The timing is fucking crazy. Impossible to tap a foot to.

[Melon Farmer]

I Second Shellac. I'll add And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead. I saw them open up for QOTSA and I actually liked them better.

[nameless]

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Sweet... first post and I feel fairly qualified...

I didn't see them mentioned, but maybe I didn't look too hard: The Queens of The Stone Age are truly amazing. One of the best bands I've heard in a while, and they enjoy some mainstream success (a rarity in the music world, to be sure).

Beyond that, I'm hooked on Tool forever. The Used and At the Drive-In (though now defunct) are really the only punk music I can be bothered with... though they may not qualify. I can't believe someone put the Refused down! I thought I was alone in liking them and their random screaming.

And is it wrong if I really do like Audioslave? (Rage Against the Machine + Chris Cornell = transcendent)

[ultrafilter]

Originally posted by Stinkpalm
Man, I am trying to think of any band that can beat DEP in sheer heaviness and insanity but none can. You do have thier newest one that came out a month or so ago right? The one with Mike Patton doing all the vocals?

If all you're concerned about is how heavy and fast the music is, then Anal Cunt, Extreme Noise Terror, and Regurgitate are among the group of bands who can compete with DEP. However, if you throw musicianship in as a criterion, then yeah, there's no one who can touch 'em.

btw, I'm not recommending any of those bands. If you're squeamish and/or not hard to offend, you shouldn't look them up. But they do exist.

And what's the name of that new album?

[ultrafilter]

All right, I'm back at home now, with access to my CD collection and wish list. Get ready for a long list of bands. Some of these are metal, some are punk, and some are "whatever". Most of these are from my collection; the rest are going to be eventually. It's unlikely that anyone other than me will like all of them.

From my collection: A Perfect Circle, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Alice In Chains, Amorphis, Annihilator, Anthrax, Black Sabbath, Brujeria, Clutch, Collide, Cradle Of Filth, Crisis, Deicide, Dimmu Borgir, Elastica, Elvis Costello, Inkubus Sukkubus, Iron Maiden, Jerry Cantrell, Joydrop, Judas Priest, Megadeth, Metallica, Morbid Angel, Motorhead, Nile, Nine Inch Nails, Old Man's Child, Opeth, Pantera, Powerman 5000, Republica, Slayer, Spinal Tap, Static-X, The Talking Heads, They Might Be Giants, Tool, White Zombie, and Yngwie Malmsteen.

From my wish list: Dream Theater, Hecate Enthroned, Limbonic Art, Samael, Tura Satana, My Ruin, Incantation, Tree, Emperor, Six Feet Under, Iced Earth, In Flames, Napalm Death, Meshuggah, The Lunachicks, Sex Pistols, Sleater-Kinney, Bikini Kill, The Clash, The Dead Kennedys...

[Sacrilegium]

Originally posted by Stinkpalm
Christ, DEP is about as insanely heavy as you can get.
No, not really. There are more extreme bands even on DEP's label.

Check out Cephalic Carnage and The Berzerker. Both are brutal as hell but not carbon copies of other bands. The Berzerker even uses techno beats under its blasting grindcore.

[ZooMetropolis]

I f you are looking for something heavy and fast, hear Stratovarius - Speed Of Light. I like that song... and if all their songs weren't the same, i would love that band

[Lockfist]

Wow, most suggestions are all across the board.

I'd suggest Mesuggah if you like complex, polyrythmic, time-changing, chaotic music. I prefer Chaosphere to their latest album, Nothing.

I'd also highly recommend Opeth - probably Blackwater Park although they do have a new one out I still need to get. This band plays melodic/ metal almost folk acoustic with clean and growling vox. Songs are rather long and unwind as more of a story than a proper song. Highly enjoyable.

Rock on,

Lockfist

[Cubsfan]

Originally posted by Lockfist
Wow, most suggestions are all across the board.

I'd suggest Mesuggah if you like complex, polyrythmic, time-changing, chaotic music. I prefer Chaosphere to their latest album, Nothing.

I'd also highly recommend Opeth - probably Blackwater Park although they do have a new one out I still need to get. This band plays melodic/ metal almost folk acoustic with clean and growling vox. Songs are rather long and unwind as more of a story than a proper song. Highly enjoyable.

Rock on,

Lockfist

Mesuggah is awsome. They have influenced so much of the hew metal but you rarely hear them mentioned. The new one only has one really good song, but it let me down bigtime overall. Chaosphere is definitely the best of the bunch.

Living Sacrifce "The Hammering Process" is one of my top 3 favorite metal albums. Check it out if you haven't heard it.

[raisinbread]

The Misfits, Skrewdriver and Black Flag (pre-Rollins)

[Angel of the Lord]

I would start with Avail, and pick an album, personaly my favorite is "Over the James" but "4AM Friday" would do nicely.

I have to second this. And third it. And fourth it.

I also have to complain that I didn't get to see them last week, because I only found out they were at the Metro the day before the concert when I was attending a different concert with my SO.

[ZooMetropolis]

Originally posted by Lockfist
I'd also highly recommend Opeth - probably Blackwater Park although they do have a new one out I still need to get

This band is excellent. And Blackwater Park is great. Their lyrics are great (I have to have a dictionary with me to follow the story), and the whole story within this album is complex and intriguing.

By the way, they recently released two new albums. I still have to listen to both of them, but i'm looking forward on it.

[ultrafilter]

As far as Opeth goes, I only have Morningrise, but I love it. Black Rose Immortal is one of my favorite songs ever, and I want to listen to it over and over again, even though it's over twenty minutes long.

[Wearia]

Early "Our Lady Peace" their newer stuff is more toned down.

[Splanky]

How about The Melvins? They came out of the Seattle grunge scene, but I would rather call them heavy/death metal than grunge or punk.

[Kombucha'ShroomPerson]

Woah, Dopers, thank you very much for all your input! Theres waaaAAAaaay too many suggestions for me to thank you each individually for here, but there're all greatly appreciated. I'm going to go and look in to as many as i can, ASAP.

And on a side note, I'm considering seeing Raging Speedhorn and Pitchshifter (separately, not together) soon. Anyone seen either live, and wish to voice an opinion?