White people don't look like each other?!??

[The Ryan]

According to several posts in http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=152464, there's no reason to think that your grandchildren will look more like you if your child marries someone of the same race. WTF? Yes, there are whites that look very different, and there are people who look very similar, even though they are of different races. But on average, white people look more other white people than black people. How can anyone in their right mind dispute that?

And no, I'm not defending anything the OP said.

[Lamia]

On average people look more like their blood relatives than unrelated people.

[Freudian Slit]

I've read that thread and what posters like Biggirl were saying is that if a child's grandfather is white, and the child is mixed (part black, part white) doesn't mean they won't look anything like the Caucasian grandfather. For example, if you're dark skinned but have the same facial features as a grandparent, you'll look like them...but if you're white and blue eyed, doesn't mean you'll look like your grandparent just b/c they also have blue eyes and are white, if your facial features are completely different.

[Freudian Slit]

And in particular, it was Czarcasm who said that:


If the child had the same facial structures but different colored eyes as the grandfather, they would look the same, but if the child had a different facial structure but the same colored eyes, they would look different?

[Mighty_Girl]

Case in point: moi!

Some people wouldn't believe I am my mom's daughter, we don't look alike, they say I am my dad's spitting image even if my skin tone is more like my mom's. Dad and I share the same facial structure, same hair, same nose, we are both short and both have freckles. I don't, however, have a balding head and abundant body and facial hair :)

[Typo Negative]

I don't look like my father at all.

I resemble his boss, though. Go figure.

[Munch]

I look like Anthony Michael Hall. Does that count?

[Chanticleer]

I once had an old maid school teacher in the 5th grade and she looked like Winston Chuirchill in drag. Is that significant?
:D

[Meatros]

Originally posted by Lamia
On average people look more like their blood relatives than unrelated people.

I second this.

[Meatros]

Originally posted by spooje
I don't look like my father at all.

I resemble his boss, though. Go figure.

Uh...I think I'm going to leave this one alone.:D

[Mockingbird]

Originally posted by spooje
I don't look like my father at all.

I resemble his boss, though. Go figure.

I think you've got the mailman's eyes.

:D

[sailor]

As we say in Spanish: Resembling your father honors your mother.

[Mighty_Girl]

Good one sailor. We have another one: "hijo de cornuda saca a su madre de duda" :)

[SkipMagic]

Originally posted by sailor
As we say in Spanish: Resembling your father honors your mother.

I'm pretty sure you said that in English. ;)

[norinew]

if you're dark skinned but have the same facial features as a grandparent, Exactly! My oldest daughter looks like me, but has her father's darker complexion (I'm very fair-skinned), but my two younger daughters have all of their fathers' features, except that they are both fair-skinned like me. But no one would deny that they look just like their father! Hubby and I are both caucasian, but I would assume it would work pretty much the same way if one of us was black, and one white, instead of just one of us dark-complected, the other light.

[The Ryan]

Originally posted by Zoggie
And in particular, it was Czarcasm who said that:
Blue were presented as an example of [/b]one thing[/b] that is correlated with race. Czarcasm seized on this and basically said "So blue eyes are the only thing thaqt determine a person's appearence?" One of the many poor attempts at logic I found in the thread (many of them from the OP).

Mighty_Girl
Some people wouldn't believe I am my mom's daughter, we don't look alike, they say I am my dad's spitting image even if my skin tone is more like my mom's. Dad and I share the same facial structure, same hair, same nose, we are both short and both have freckles. I don't, however, have a balding head and abundant body and facial hair
But skin tone is hardly the only thing associated with race. Facial structure, hair, nose, and freckles are all things that are correlated with race.

[The Ryan]

Oh, and Mighty_Girl: whyi sn't that "cornudo"?

[Mighty_Girl]

The Ryan: that's exactly what I meant. Saying that a child won't look like their grandparents because of being mixed race is silly. I am obviously not pure Caucasian (as dad) and obviously my dad's daughter. If my paternal grandparents had objected to my dad marrying my mom on the grounds that grandkids wouldn't look "like them" they would have been VERY wrong. Fortunately that was not the case and I now sport this convenient built-in tan. :)

Cornuda refers to the mother. Cornudo is masculine, cornuda feminine. It means that the child of "doubtful parentage" would clear away all doubts (obviously by his looks).

[MaxTheVool]

Let's not all go jumping into bed too quickly here... if Chuck has only one objective in life, and that objective is to have grandchildren that come as close as possible to physically resembling Chuck, then Chuck would obviously prefer that his children breed with people who, as closely as possible, resemble Chuck.

And, on the average, some random person from the same "race" that Chuck is in will resemble Chuck more than some average person from another race. (Please note my use of the phrase "on the average" before flaming me.)


That said, Chuck is obviously a dingbat, is most likely an asshole, and has the truly sick priorities. And all his plan is going to do is increase his average yield, not guarantee him anything at all.

[Blackeyes]

12-Nov-1982 (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_099.html)

[Sterra]

For the same reason blue eyed people tend to look like blue eyed people white people tend to look like white people.

Because they already have one trait in common.

[Eliahna]

My brother-in-laws look remarkably alike, considering they are only half-brothers and one is of English-Irish descent while the other is of English-Filipino descent. Claiming that marrying outside his race made it impossible for my father-in-law's children to look like him is false, as it is only minor details like skin, hair and eye colour that differ.

[China Guy]

My AmerAsian daughter has her white grandmother's hazel eye's and Chinese grandmother's ears. She's got my skull structure and her mom's mouth.

[Biggirl]

I read that thread in GD and posted to it. No where do I see anyone anywhere saying white people don't look like each other. Since that is not what the discussion is about, I'm not surprised.

It's been a while since I've seen The RyanlogicTM used around these parts. Reprieve over, I guess.

[The Ryan]

Mighty_Girl
Saying that a child won't look like their grandparents because of being mixed race is silly.
I don’t think that verybdog was saying that the child will look nothing like its grandparents, only that it would less like them.

Biggirl
I read that thread in GD and posted to it. No where do I see anyone anywhere saying white people don't look like each other. Since that is not what the discussion is about, I'm not surprised.

It's been a while since I've seen The RyanlogicTM used around these parts. Reprieve over, I guess.
If anyone is exhibiting cognitive shortcomings, it is you, as you are apparently unable to distinguish between an assertion and logic, and use an ad hominem attack in place of a substantive response.

Kimstu siad
What's racist is to automatically assume that your grandchildren's skin color is what determines whether they "look like you".
Which implies that
a) That skin color is the only difference in appearance between the races.
b) It is racist to think there is a difference in appearance between the races.

And you yourself said
Why wouldn't White grandfather's kids look like him if his daughter married outside his race?
Which was in response to the question
Why is a White grandfather prefering his grandchild to look [more] like him a racist?
Either you were implying that her marrying within his race will not make his grandchild look more like him, or you don’t think that the word “more” was implied in that sentence.