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Tuckerfan
12-29-2002, 07:42 AM
Back in high school, my history teacher claimed that one of the Japanese tortures was to insert a glass rod into a man's urethra, and then hit his penis with a hammer. (Obligatory :eek: ) Sounded plausible then, but not too long ago someone told me that the Vietnamese did the same thing back in the Sixties, and my BS meter started going, "Sounds like an UL!"

To me, it simply sounds like pure sadism, after all, if you're going to torture someone, it's generally to get them to do something that you want. Any man who's had that done to him is going to be worthless and quite likely to die, so I can't picture it being used.

Phlosphr
12-29-2002, 09:16 AM
Actually Tuck I have never heard of that particular torture, but I do know the Japanese were the inventors of "die of a thousand cuts" torture. Where they would use a shard of glass to make a thousand cuts on someone manytimes, waiting brief periods of time for a wound to clot and then re-cutting it to inflict maximum pain with minumum lethality <- is that a word?

Turbo Dog
12-29-2002, 09:40 AM
I've read before that it had been used by the chinese, japanese, vietnamese, germans, and in the middle east. Along the same lines, the middle east also would use a tube to open the rectum and pour small shards of glass inside. Not to mention the vaginal and rectal pears of the inquisition times.

Keep in mind that torture is not always to get information, but can be used to simply send a message to others. Also, torture doesn't have to be applied to an individual to make him talk. I'm pretty sure that if I was tied down next to somebody and watched that technique be applied to them, if they took one step towards me with a glass rod and a hammer I would sing like a canary.

The Aztecs also used a similar setup to the "thousand cuts" torture on their captives after battle. They called it "striping", where they tied the guy to a platform, gave him some throwing clubs, and three guys would dance around him with wooden swords with small flint edges, making very shallow cuts. Eventually, the guy would die from exhaustion and blood loss from being covered in shallow cuts.

Splanky
12-29-2002, 09:53 AM
Yeah, I've used it before.

ravage2
12-29-2002, 09:56 AM
I know the Japanese were also inventors of a torture where they forced bamboo shoots down your throat and then some water. The bamboo shoots would grow and burst through your stomach.

kniz
12-29-2002, 10:10 AM
Please, I just had breakfast. ;)

Snooooopy
12-29-2002, 10:20 AM
Seems like hitting a guy's penis with a hammer would be more than enough.

Mr. Blue Sky
12-29-2002, 10:53 AM
I've heard of a variation in which a thin glass rod is inserted into the penis and when the man has an erection, the rod snaps.

:eek:

PosterChild
12-29-2002, 11:21 AM
I just have to ask: "Cites?"

PC

Reeder
12-29-2002, 11:25 AM
I've heard of the piano wire torture wherein they tie piano wire around the penis and induce an erection. Nor sure of the validity though. Never heard of the glass rod torture.

samclem
12-29-2002, 12:00 PM
When I was a junior in high school, in 1960, we used to love to pass around salacious books by authors such as Henry Miller.

I remeber reading a passage in William Shirer's(1959) Rise and Fall of the Third Reich which had such a passage. It detailed a Nazi prison camp example--glass rod up the penis, and then breaking it. I can't cite it better than that.

Snooooopy
12-29-2002, 12:56 PM
While aisle of the department store do they stock the urethra-sized glass rods? Are they expensive?

scm1001
12-30-2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Reeder
I've heard of the piano wire torture wherein they tie piano wire around the penis and induce an erection.

how does one induce an erection in a torture chamber? Nothing would be more likely to keep me flaccid

Bongmaster
12-30-2002, 10:16 AM
You wouldn't even need to take me into the torture room. As soon as someone told me they were shoving a glass rod, broken or not, into my penis, I'll talk. I mean, everyone has a breaking point, why go through the bother of the torture part if you're just going to give it up anyway?

Tuckerfan
12-30-2002, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by samclem
When I was a junior in high school, in 1960, we used to love to pass around salacious books by authors such as Henry Miller.

I remeber reading a passage in William Shirer's(1959) Rise and Fall of the Third Reich which had such a passage. It detailed a Nazi prison camp example--glass rod up the penis, and then breaking it. I can't cite it better than that. Well, I've skimmed my copy of Shirer's book, but couldn't find that incident mentioned. Then again, it's not like its a fast read.

Morbo
12-30-2002, 05:16 PM
I had actually typed "torture penis urethra hammer" into Google on my work machine and was ready to hit "search" before I came to my senses. :)

X~Slayer(ALE)
12-30-2002, 05:27 PM
That sounds like a lot of BS to me. If you think about it, youre a wartime honorable japanese soldier and about to get medievil on your victim, japanese style..... first get a small glass tube (hollow preferable) and a hammer and deftly insert tube (not the hammer)into victim's urethra.... then strike with hammer..

*sheeesh* In wartime, you gotta use what you can easily get. I bet I cant even find a glass tube that size even now. How would the japanese supply officer label that? glass penis rods. For torture use only...?

Too much preparation for very little result. It sounds more like some perverted masochistic fantasy than a real torture technique. Snooopys right, just hit the damn thing. The hell with a hammer, a rock would do. (and a side note: the bamboo growing and bursting out of the stomach is so bogus)

One quick way I could think of was done to mel Gibson, the ol goomba method of hammer to toe works real good.

Cisco
12-30-2002, 05:44 PM
Yea, the bamboo in the stomach story sounds like old men getting a kick out of telling kids that if they eat watermelon seeds a watermelon will grow in their stomach and sprout out of their ears.

The version I've heard of the torture in the OP is that they shove the hollow tube in the penis and then let fire ants crawl in and then smash it with a hammer :eek:.

X~Slayer(ALE)
12-30-2002, 06:58 PM
ok that "torture" is just getting weirder by the minute.

if you really want a sure fire torture, try a root canal without anesthesia.

Muffin
12-30-2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Tuckerfan
. . . my history teacher claimed that . . .

Alarm bells go off.

bdgr
12-30-2002, 07:46 PM
My urologist shoved a camera up there, I promise I would have told him anything he wanted to know.....No hammer needed

kanicbird
12-30-2002, 07:57 PM
how does one induce an erection in a torture chamber?

sleep?

monica
12-30-2002, 09:53 PM
I know the Japanese were also inventors of a torture where they forced bamboo shoots down your throat and then some water. The bamboo shoots would grow and burst through your stomach.
I'm assuming this is a joke, seeing how 1)that would take too long and 2) if you can't grow other seeds in your stomach, there is no reason why bamboo should work.

Tuckerfan
12-30-2002, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Muffin
Alarm bells go off. I take it we had the same history teacher?

Hrdygrdymn
12-30-2002, 11:27 PM
The glass rod I can handle... but Henry Miller!

Noooooooooooo!

Tuckerfan
12-30-2002, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Dooku
I had actually typed "torture penis urethra hammer" into Google on my work machine and was ready to hit "search" before I came to my senses. :) Surprisingly, a google search on that turns up nothing (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22torture+penis+urethra+hammer%22&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8). Not even porn, amazing.

PetW
12-30-2002, 11:46 PM
That's because you put it in quotes. Dooku just put it in quotes so you could see what words he was searching for... I doubt he would have put the words in there as a phrase.

stockton
12-30-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Splanky
Yeah, I've used it before.

C'mon, kid - you were just getting some credibility here! Stick to the high road.

jjrt
12-31-2002, 12:41 AM
I knew a man who was in WWII and the Japanese had taken him prisoner and pulled all his teeth.

Major Feelgud
12-31-2002, 12:49 AM
Why? Did he have cavities?

Snooooopy
12-31-2002, 01:08 AM
I wonder if you could make a good living as a glass penis rod salesman.

It would be worth it just to have the title on your business cards!

censored
12-31-2002, 01:28 AM
the iraqis use a torture where they hook up electrodes to one's penis...but that's just a variation on the electricity-to-body-part theme ;)

superfreakicus
12-31-2002, 02:03 AM
the version I heard is that they stick a watermelon seed in your penis, and.......
well, actually that was it.

Sublight
12-31-2002, 05:57 AM
BTW, the Japanese "Death by a thousand cuts" (24 actually, ending with decapitation) wasn't used as a torture method, but as a form of execution during the medieval period.

zigaretten
12-31-2002, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by monica
I'm assuming this is a joke, seeing how 1)that would take too long and 2) if you can't grow other seeds in your stomach, there is no reason why bamboo should work.

Well....I think he may have the details wrong, but.....

"Another common torture was the "rice torture," in which the victim would be starved for several days and then have a large amount of uncooked rice forced down his throat. A hose would then be put in the victims mouth and he would swallow a large amount of water, which caused the rice to expand. This would cause excruciating pain as the stomach stretched to its limit, and the pain would often continue for days as the rice was digested. The resulting stress on the digestive tract would also cause internal and rectal bleeding."

Hidden Horrors, Japanese War Crimes in World War II by Yuki Tanaka

missbunny
12-31-2002, 10:10 AM
Aside from whether this is true or not, glass rods of that size are easy to come by. Didn't anyone ever use a pippette in science class? Or perhaps they just made do with plain old thermometers; those would be about the right size.

BurnMeUp
12-31-2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by X~Slayer(ALE)
That sounds like a lot of BS to me. If you think about it, youre a wartime honorable japanese soldier and about to get medievil on your victim, japanese style..... first get a small glass tube (hollow preferable) and a hammer and deftly insert tube (not the hammer)into victim's urethra.... then strike with hammer..

*sheeesh* In wartime, you gotta use what you can easily get. I bet I cant even find a glass tube that size even now. How would the japanese supply officer label that? glass penis rods. For torture use only...?


ACtually it's fairly well documented that at the beginning of WWII the Japanese had their own Internment camps in Mongolia where the performed "experements" like seeing how long someone could withstand the elements by stripping them bare standing them in water outside ion the snow... or completely freezing a limb (like an arm) and then snashing the frozen appendage.

This was well documented in Men Behind the Sun and The Rape of Nanking.

Tupug Anachi
12-31-2002, 10:53 AM
God, I'm sure glad I'm not going to Nathan's for lunch.

FordPrefect
12-31-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by zigaretten
Well....I think he may have the details wrong, but.....

"Another common torture was the "rice torture," in which the victim would be starved for several days and then have a large amount of uncooked rice forced down his throat. A hose would then be put in the victims mouth and he would swallow a large amount of water, which caused the rice to expand. This would cause excruciating pain as the stomach stretched to its limit, and the pain would often continue for days as the rice was digested. The resulting stress on the digestive tract would also cause internal and rectal bleeding."

Well, having made the mistake when eating rice-milk (you know, rice, milk, sugar and cinnamon... why are you all looking at me like that?) of not fully cooking the rice, I have a small inkling of what that would feel like...

All this talk of bashing penis' with hammers is reminding me of the word Plebura (sp) as defined in "The Meaning of Liff" by Douglas Adams and John Lloyd (I think)

Plebura (n) - A South American game, where a ball is whacked against a brick wall with a stout wooden bat, until the prisoner confesses.

Pushkin
12-31-2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by ravage2
I know the Japanese were also inventors of a torture where they forced bamboo shoots down your throat and then some water. The bamboo shoots would grow and burst through your stomach.

The way I heard that one was the Japanese soldiers would tie you down on top of growing shoots and let them grow up until they began to pierce the skin, bamboo growing so quickly. Still would take too long for the battlefield, as if there aren't any easier ways :rolleyes:

Scruloose
12-31-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by BurnMeUp
ACtually it's fairly well documented that at the beginning of WWII the Japanese had their own Internment camps in Mongolia where the performed "experements" like seeing how long someone could withstand the elements by stripping them bare standing them in water outside ion the snow... or completely freezing a limb (like an arm) and then snashing the frozen appendage.

This was well documented in Men Behind the Sun and The Rape of Nanking.

Those types of experiments are also documented in Shirer's book. Simply amazing that humans have the capacity to do this type of thing.

Achernar
12-31-2002, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by zigaretten
Hidden Horrors, Japanese War Crimes in World War II by Yuki TanakaFor some reason, an actual cite seems inappropriate in this thread.

X~Slayer(ALE)
12-31-2002, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by BurnMeUp
ACtually it's fairly well documented that at the beginning of WWII the Japanese had their own Internment camps in Mongolia where the performed "experements" like seeing how long someone could withstand the elements by stripping them bare standing them in water outside ion the snow... or completely freezing a limb (like an arm) and then snashing the frozen appendage.

This was well documented in Men Behind the Sun and The Rape of Nanking.

Well Yah, I understand all of that. I am not doubting the veracity of documentated Japanese cruelty in world war 2. I am doubting the actual torture technique.

X~Slayer(ALE)
12-31-2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by censored
the iraqis use a torture where they hook up electrodes to one's penis...but that's just a variation on the electricity-to-body-part theme ;)


OK, have you seen the claws that are used to charge batteries with? They can save their electricty! Those things alone look painful.

merrily
12-31-2002, 03:13 PM
I seem to remember the torture from the OP as being in Michener's <b>The Bridge at Andou</b>, which was about the Hungarian uprising in 1956. I no longer have the book, but there was one chapter about what the Soviets did to the protestors in prison, and this was one of them. They mentioned having to hold the guy down when he peed.

Does anybody have this book, to confirm? Not that Michener is necessarily a primary source, mind you.

kanicbird
12-31-2002, 04:31 PM
They mentioned having to hold the guy down when he peed.


why? I would think the damage was already done.

manhattan
12-31-2002, 06:07 PM
Are there any unanswered General Questions remaining in this thread?

kanicbird
12-31-2002, 07:13 PM
yes, I still have one
why? I would think the damage was already done.

Muffin
12-31-2002, 10:51 PM
I'm still wondering why a school teacher would go out of his way to talk to a student about insertions up penises, but I'm not sure I want to hear the answer.

Gairloch
01-01-2003, 01:15 AM
And there is still the question of how many visionaries, anticipating the modern trend towards painful self-mutilation, volunteered, thus inadvertantly becoming the avant-garde.

Gairloch

Tuckerfan
01-01-2003, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Muffin
I'm still wondering why a school teacher would go out of his way to talk to a student about insertions up penises, but I'm not sure I want to hear the answer. We were discussing the Bataan Death March and this was supposedly used on a US soldier who tried to escape.

Zagadka
01-01-2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Tuckerfan
... my history teacher claimed that ...

I had a history teacher who claimed to have been at Pearl Harbor and seen the Japanese planes flying overhead, and described it in graphic detail.

This was, oh, 1992.

He was 36 years old.

Seriously, parents should be MUCH more concerned about the people they leave their children with all day.