"Shocking" yourself

[Fuel]

ok, this is really hard to explain. i can kind of "shock" myself by "freezing' myself up. it's sort of like shooting adrenaline through your veins on command, but i know that's probably not what's going on. it kind of paralyzes me when i do it, and i feel that maybe i am messing with my central nervous system somehow.

i get the feeling all over my body, but it sort of originates in my core, inside my ribcage/stomach area.

does anybody know what i am talking about? what am i doing to myself?? there is absolutely no way to describe how i initiate this or what it feels like, i just can do it whenever i want and lit eaves me a little weak right after. no permanent damage obviously.

it would be so cool to know what this is..... i have wondered this since i was a little kid. only my dad knows what i am talking about, and even he describes it a little different.

[hobbes730]

I can sort of relate; I get the same sort of feeling every now and then, although I can't do it on command. It's really sort of random. I've been told it could be a "benign" form of epilepsy. Perhaps it would be best to consult a doctor about it though...

[RyanD004]

I think I may have a similar feeling. I wouldn't describe it as a shock though. It's kind of like an energy that sends a sort of shiver through my body. For me, it starts in the 'core area' too and moves out. It doesn't hurt or seem dangerous in any way. I've never really talked about it; its difficult to describe.

[Orange Skinner]

I know what you're talking about. I can't do it at will, exactly, but sometimes I can tell that if I work at it I can make myself have one. No idea what it is though...my mother thought it might be a mild form of Tourette's (sp?) Syndrome.

[RyanD004]

Hmm.. interesting... so now it's possible that I have some sort of latent disease or disorder. Or... maybe the government experiemented on all of us as children and fed us super soldier formula instead of milk. So in reality.. this is super charged energy that allows us to do incredible deeds. Eh.. too good to be true.

[BioHazard]

Sounds to me like an Anxiety Attack, I get those alot.

[Fuel]

Originally posted by RyanD004
I think I may have a similar feeling. I wouldn't describe it as a shock though. It's kind of like an energy that sends a sort of shiver through my body.
yeah, that's a good way to describe it.

i can't imagine it being a benign disease! it's just something i can do to myself. however, i feel like if i did it all day everyday that it might actually hurt me. it doesn't necessarily feel healthy, but i doubt it could be a disease.

anybody else? this is really an interesting, odd thing. what is chemically happening and can anybody do this? there has got to be a name for this......

[hobbes730]

Hmm.. interesting... so now it's possible that I have some sort of latent disease or disorder.

Well not exactly. It's a mild form of epilepsy - not even that really. I'm sure there's some proper word for it, I just don't know what it is. But it's not actually epilepsy. It falls into the same category as "sleep starts" - you know, when you're just about to fall asleep, and all of a sudden your body will jerk or tense up for no reason. Same sort of thing. It happens to everybody. It's not a disease :)

IANAE though...surely there's someone out there who knows more about this than I do?

[bbeaty]

You're not talking about "the creeps", are you? The willies? Full-body goosebumps? When I do this intentionally (like right now!), I feel itching/tingling all over my entire skin surface, then I can't help but wiggle my arms and legs to "shake it off." After doing it once, I can't do it again for about 10 minutes.

This feels somewhat like that feeling you get inside your nose just before you sneeze... but it's all over your body. Now that you mention it, the "wave" does seem to start on my chest and in the middle of my back, then spread outward to my arms & legs.

As far as I know, this is just goosebumps. It happens to me spontaneously when stepping out of a hot bathroom into the icy cold hallway. Or when scraping my fingernails on the hood of an old car. Yeesh.

PS

Goosebumps drive those skin-electrode biofeedback meters crazy. Strap on one of those meters, then visualize cold water being sprayed on your neck, and the meter needle goes 'whack' to the top of its range.

[Fuel]

you can give yourself goosebumps???

bbeaty, that is not what i am talking about. nothing involving skin here. it's all inside, pretty much away from the skin.

[BioHazard]

I still think it is a mild panic attack:

http://my.webmd.com/content/healthwise/137/34033

Paraphrased:
Pounding heart or chest pain. (If you have chest pain and other symptoms of a heart attack, Choking feeling,
Lightheadedness, Dizziness, shaking, or trembling.
Numbness or tingling.


But what your are describing is what happens to me just before a Panic Attack.

[Uncommon Sense]

I can do this too!!

On command. And it`s over in less than a second, but I can make it last longer if I want. It just looses some of the allure if you drag it out to long. It sort of feels like a very small, short orgasm. If I do it too long I feel like I could loose control of my bladder or get light headed. I have no idea how I can do it I just know I can.

Also, my eyes go slighlty out of focus when it happens.

What the hell is this??

[Fuel]

Originally posted by whuckfistle
I can do this too!!

On command. And it`s over in less than a second, but I can make it last longer if I want. It just looses some of the allure if you drag it out to long. It sort of feels like a very small, short orgasm. If I do it too long I feel like I could loose control of my bladder or get light headed. I have no idea how I can do it I just know I can.

Also, my eyes go slighlty out of focus when it happens.

What the hell is this??

yes! that's it! my eyes go very very slightly out of focus when i do it. i would NOT call it an orgasm though.... it doesn't feel good at all, but i could see how you would say that, it's like an orgasm without the good feeling, and all over your body.

everything you said was what i feel. finally somebody who understands!

someone, anyone. what is this? is it bad? i'm not gonna let this thread go away until someone says something!!

Biohazard: maybe it's a simulation of an anxiety attack? also, there are NONE of those symptoms you mentioned. it is not what you are talking about.....next

[RyanD004]

Definately not an anxiety attack. My eyes kinda go out of focus too.. but I think I can keep them from doing so. And it doesn't quite feel like an oergasm either. At least not like what I associate with an orgasm. It is also definately not goosebumps. No hairs raise on my arms when I do it. The more I try and take control of my body while it happens, the less I feel it. Howver, don't get the idea like I'm out of control.. like in a seizure. Whatever it is, it's something I can do by command and stop by command. I think it would be quite interesting to find out exactly what is gonig on. Hmm.. I'm going to have to agree that doing it too much is bad. I just did it like.. 20 times and had a sort of.. not good feeling. It's not like it's in my heart.. or my lungs exactly. More of in between. Before anyone asks.. it has no similarity to heartburn.

[Fuel]

bump

[Soca]

I can do it on command as well.
To me, it feels more like it's coming from my lower spine and going into my upper body. I've never done it for more than a few seconds, it seems like it would be bad for you for some reason.
I've never experienced the feeling without intentionally triggering it.

[antechinus]

I dont know if this is the same thing, but I used to do it to stay awake in lectures. Cheaper than coffee :). Wears off in about 15 mins though and you become desensitised with more hits.

It is adrenaline. I havent had an anxiety attack, but I presume it is like a minor, acute controlled attack.

It is the feeling you get before performing in front of an audience. Is this the same with you fuel?

[Conti]

I can do the same thing. By kind of relaxing something, i'm not even quite sure what i'm relaxing, but it seems to make adrenaline shoot through my body. It is the same kind of feeling you get before a fight or right before the winning lottery numbers are announced or when your favorite basketball team scores on a last second shot. I think what you are doing is releasing adrenaline, IMHO.

[Conti]

Oh and thanks a lot. Now that i've tried this all over again, my heart is pumping like i've been in a 5 mile race, and I am wide awake and unable to goto sleep! LOL

[Uncommon Sense]

Interesting, What are the bio-mechanics behind this? There should be someone out there who can answer this.

Cecil??

[jjimm]

I can do this too at will, and make it stop. It's a tingle/buzz (a bit like pre-orgasm) in the centre of the abdomen. But I can also move it around my body.

I have noticed the same core "buzzing" feeling when on psychotropics too (though I can't stop it in that case).

[jjimm]

BTW, it might be adrenaline, but I don't get the same post-adrenaline shakes afterwards, etiher.

[yme]

I can do this on command as well. It's sort of like taking "electrical control" of all your muscles at one time and telling them to freeze. I wish I could make it last longer as it only lasts for a second or less.

Well not all your muscles, your heart doesn't freeze. And this is not a panic attack.

[Uncommon Sense]

Welcome aboard -- yme

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

OK...this is weird...since many people appear to have it, and appear to be able to control it, would some of you perhaps attempt a description on how to do it?

I figure it may be something we can all do, just most of us have never discovered it. I don't think it's ever happened to me, but if you want to provide instructions on what I can do to induce the 'mini orgasm spaz' thing, consider me your guinea pig!

[Uncommon Sense]

No can do.

I would love to be able to tell you, but I just can`t describe the mechanism that initiates it. My best guess is there is a muscle somewhere that contracts on a nerve somewhere. Good luck.

[ICP9991]

speaking of weird things like that, i can make my brain make a noise:
when you yawn, and you get a kind of buzzing in your head above your ears - i can do that at will, it doesnt hurt or anything but i cant do it constantly, its as if it gets tired after a minute or so and stops, that's as best as i can describe it,
does anyone know what im talking about?:confused:

[Fuel]

some of you got it i think (whuckfistle!). but some are describing symptoms that are similar but not the same as mine.

for instance, it does NOT feel like it's coming from my lower spine. it is definately NOT pre-public speech jitters, although *slightly* similar. it does NOT help me stay awake........ i've tried to do it in hopes of it helping but it doesn't help except for only a couple seconds. (if it is adrenaline, it would definately wake you up) You DO get desensitized the more you do it, in one sitting. it IS similar to the feeling before fight or whatnot, but there is no cold skin feeling, no anxious feeling, and no post-adrenaline jitters.

basically my body feels weak for a couple seconds after doing it.

i think a good symptom to point out again is the slightly blurred vision.

my intuition tells me it has something to do with the CNS. my intuition also tells me it's not adrenaline. it simply does not feel the same. besides, i don't think humans can spike adrenaline on command, can they?

there is absolutely no way to desribe to someone else how to do this, sorry.

i have to stop talking about this...... i'm gonna kill myself doing this over and over again!

[Fuel]

CECIL!

[Conti]

NoGoodNamesLeft.....I know what you're talking about. It sounds almost like you're in a really windy enviroment, or also static as you said. I can make myself do this also, and it seems to be from tensing up the muslces on the side of the head just above the ear.

[endswithani]

Even though I experience it as coming from lower back/tailbone are, I think it's the same thing. It feels as though an electrical current starts in that area and radiates out. I can do this on command, repeatedly and for anywhere from about half a second to two or three seconds.

I also think it feels like it might be related to an orgasm. My "down there" (pubococcygeus?) muscles contract when I do it, which is probably where I am drawing that connection (along with the "weak right after" part).

To do it, I let my breath out and sort of "let go" (well, that's how I've always thought of it, but now that I'm doing it and trying to describe it, it may be more like squeezing a muscle around part of my spine).

I wonder if the origination point is related to M/F? I'm female.

[DocHopper]

I do this too, just as Fuel describes. Kinda sad in a way to learn I'm not unique! It seems to me that it is easier to do lying down, when your body can be more totally relaxed, but other than that I have nothing new to add.

[Tree Boy]

It might be similar or related to the sensation known as a "frisson," which is that sudden rush you get up your spine, causing you to shiver quickly. Maybe it's just your spinal cord running a diagnostic on your major nerve cells.

[Alescus]

I've just found this thread. Nice to hear I'm not the only one who can do this, in fact it seems it's quite common. I didn't understand what was meant when it was described as a 'shock', but having seen the other posts I know what people are talking about.

I've just tried it again, now. I can do it for up to about 5 seconds at a time, although beyond 2 seconds requires some effort. If I do it again within a minute or so, the intensity is reduced. The experience itself is not unpleasant, and I can understand why someone would describe it as orgasm-like. The drawback, for me at least, is that immediately after I stop, I feel momentarily ill and nauseous for about 1 second, which I must wait to disappear before I can start again - I cannot just gradually return to normal (although I might be able to with practice). I've just noticed that if I do it while looking at a 60Hz monitor, it appears to ripple left and right.

Although it usually originates around the bottom of my rib cage, I can with concentration get a lesser effect from slightly above my tailbone. I can also get the effect from the bottom of my forehead, although this is qualitatively slightly different and may be something else.

ICP9991 - I can do something similar with my ears, but it makes a kind of thunder-like sound. I was thinking about that as well before I saw your post. Another thing I was thinking about is whether anyone else finds that they feel light-headed and things sound louder if they take deep, rapid breaths for about a minute, and whether they also find they can then hold their breath for longer than usual.

[Fnoonf]

Hmm. This sounds very similar to something I've been doing since I was a little kid. A lot of the things I've read here sound familiar, but in addition my "thing" involves a tightening of muscles around the diaphragm, esophagus and throat, and when I do it (it's never involuntary) it causes a slightly breathy, non-vocal sound to emanate from my throat.

Somewhere along the way (I have no idea when) some conditioned response or other turned this into a "positive" thing for me; I never do this unless I have reason to be very happy about something, and when I do it sends a slight euphoric rush through my system. I can do it just any old time, but it just doesn't have the full effect if I'm not feeling genuinely happy at the time.

I too would love to know what this is, and what it does to the system.

[Miltonyz]

I can do something similar with my ears, but it makes a kind of thunder-like sound. I was thinking about that as well before I saw your post. Another thing I was thinking about is whether anyone else finds that they feel light-headed and things sound louder if they take deep, rapid breaths for about a minute, and whether they also find they can then hold their breath for longer than usual.

Everybody experiences this. You are hyperventilating. By taking these deep rapid breaths you are overloading your body with oxygen. If you kept doing this past the point of dizzyness you would eventually pass out. The reason you can hold your breath longer has to do with the percent of oxygen in your blood. When your oxygen level gets below a certain point your brain tells you to breath. The signals get stronger until you eventually do breathe. After you hyperventilate you have more oxygen in your blood. Then your brain waits longer before making you breathe

[Uncommon Sense]

You`re all a bunch of wierdos.:D

[RyanD004]

Ok.. more to clarify. I am not hyperventilating before-hand. I don't think it's adrenaline. I usually feel hyper around the times i'm doing it.. although its hard to specify whether its the cause or result of the ...phenomonon. I can do it for a seemingly long period of time (respectively). 1 or 2 seconds is natural, but I managed to keep it gonig for 11.

To describe how to do it is very difficult. It's not like the trick where you make your ears pop or anything like that. I first have to sense a sort of 'potential' in my core. Then I release it.

As a scientific inquiry,I think those of us who claim to be able to do it should post our sex and where the feeling is. Mayhaps its always around the center of mass?

I'm male and it occurs just below my ribcage.

[RyanD004]

Sorry,I must add on. It does remind me of being nervous or anticipative. However, it's the fact that it's a voluntary thing and that I can do it now that precludes me from saying its an anxiety attack. I'd really like to meet one of these people. Maybe we're all clones created by the government with big part foot dna, witch gives us and extra mysterious organ. Of course, thats as likely as being struck twice by lightening while wearing a flash t-shirt.. which I might add is still more likely than winning the lottery.

[Nichol_storm]

I'd describe it as very much like an electric shock -- I freeze up and my whole body twitches once. I can't do it on command nor would I want to, because I hate it. I've wondered what it is for a long time, and I hope to find an answer.

Cecil?

.:Nichol:.

[RyanD004]

I find it interesting that so many people have experienced this phenomonon. Can't a doctor or something pose some sort of explanation that makes sense? Are we super humans? Do we have small creatures gestating in our chests? Is that feeling a sign that my heart about to explode? Will my giant goldfish ever die?

[Wikkit]

Do any of you experience "piss shivers"? How does this compare to that?

[Uncommon Sense]

Originally posted by Wikkit
Do any of you experience "piss shivers"? How does this compare to that?

No, not that.

Sounds like some of us have similar results, but probably no two exactly alike. I have no idea how I was able to first do this, I just can and I can`t explain how.

It`s like trying to explain to someone who can`t blink, how to blink. I don`t know how I blink, I just know that I can.

By the way I`m male, and the feelings originate under the rib cage and seem to stay concentrated in the middle back area.
The actual feeling itself and the location is fairly ambiguous.

[BioHazard]

I did it! It is not an anxiety attack, but if I do it for too long it turns into the pre-panic attack feeling.

I can do the ear thing too, I figured that out when I was 5 or so.

Here's a question, how many of you hear a buzzing/rumbling in your ears while you're trying to fall asleep? I can sometimes amplify it and if I amplify it enough it turns into an all out seizure. Feels like electricity is pouring over my body and I can't move. It feels very similar to what happens when you wake up from a dream and can't move. Sleep paralisys or sleep seizure, something like that. The only difference is that I can make it happen while i'm wide awake, and I can make it last for as long as I want to. Also it DOES NOT feel good, it is painfull sometimes and very tireing. If this happens several times while I am asleep I wake up with a migrane and even more tired than when I went to sleep.

[RyanD004]

Unusual abilities. I have that piss shiver thing too, but thats different.

[Phnord Prephect]

I have two theories on this subject, never having experienced the type of 'shock' being talked about here.

First, most likely I think, is that you've taken voluntary control of otherwise involuntary muscles somewhere in your body, most likely in the area of the spine. When you contract this muscle, it pinches a nerve, sending intense feelings through your body. Actually it only feels like the body, because those nerves are the ones 'feeling' those limbs etc. Sort of a short circuit. The way nerves are made, this would feel like it 'spreads out' through the body, it would become less intense after you repeat it a few times, and depending on what you're pinching exactly, could prove harmful in the long run if you're not careful. Not that it will, but it could.

Another possibility is that you've gotten conscious control over some gland or other... adrenaline is a good candidate, but there are glands all over this meatbag you drive. It's not too far-fetched to imagine learning to 'sense' this gland. Learning to feel when its full, learning to 'squeeze' it out... get a 'natural' buzz off it.

The point is that the human body has all kinds of weird things going on, and we're not conscious of most of them. When's the last time you actually THOUGHT about your mitochondria, huh? I bet you didn't even call them over the holidays. Shame on you!

[Uncommon Sense]

I often have casual dialogue with my hemoglobins.

[Fuel]

Originally posted by Phnord Prephect

First, most likely I think, is that you've taken voluntary control of otherwise involuntary muscles somewhere in your body, most likely in the area of the spine. When you contract this muscle, it pinches a nerve, sending intense feelings through your body. Actually it only feels like the body, because those nerves are the ones 'feeling' those limbs etc. Sort of a short circuit. The way nerves are made, this would feel like it 'spreads out' through the body, it would become less intense after you repeat it a few times, and depending on what you're pinching exactly, could prove harmful in the long run if you're not careful. Not that it will, but it could.


this is the most likely scenario.

still, does anyone know FOR SURE what this is?

[Fuel]

Fuel here, Bump from 2003!!!! Seriously...... my wife and I were talking about this and I told her about this post, and here it is.

[Digital is the new Analog]

i'm not gonna let this thread go away until someone says something!!


Fuel here, Bump from 2003!!!! Seriously...... my wife and I were talking about this and I told her about this post, and here it is.

Wow..you were serious about not letting the thread go away!

So, 8 years later, have you learned anything about it?


-D/a

[Freudian Slit]

I can't be the only one who has no idea what this is...right? Right?!

[BigT]

Well, I think they are talking about what I do when I am cold and then get warm. I shake just a little, and it's like warmth flows through my body. If I'm tired, it will make me feel more awake. If I'm anxious or uptight, I'll feel more relaxed. I can do it on command as long as I'm at least slightly cold.

If this is the feeling they are talking about, I'd suggest getting really cold, and then warming back up, give a little shiver, and see if you feel it. If that's not the feeling they are talking about, I can't help.

Unless they are talking about taking shallow breaths, which makes some people feel energized...

[clairobscur]

anybody else? ..

Me, I think. I believe I can relate about the feeling, but I can't make it happens. It just happens spontaneously. Saw a doctor and a couple specialists, they found nothing abnormal but didn't appear very convinced that I felt anything at all out of the ordinary. The neurologist told me, in fact, that if I couldn't explain clearly what I feel, it couldn't be, according to her experience, an ailment but rather something psychological.

And fact is I can't describe it clearly because it's unlike anything I felt previously. "Shock" is the word I used too, even though it's not exactly that.

[Lightlystarched]

Okay, this sounds exactly like the sensation I get when I do Kegel exercises. Or maybe I've done the Kegels wrong my whole life?

[luluweezie]

Okay, this sounds exactly like the sensation I get when I do Kegel exercises. Or maybe I've done the Kegels wrong my whole life?

I'm exactly the same; I've started doing Kegels and I get that sensation every time. I feel that it's triggering some sort of hormonal reaction, and I wonder if it could be a "bad" thing; if it could lead to a hormone imbalance or dysfunction?

I've also noticed a similar sensation when trying to fall asleep at night. One minute I'm drifting off, and the next second I have a surge of energy (adrenaline??) and my brain kicks into high gear. Tiny problems or tasks left undone during the day suddenly loom huge in my consciousness, and there is little chance of sleep. It's not exactly like adrenaline though, there are no jitters or increased heart or respiratory rate. It just feels like a small flood of energy or a frisson. Every time I do a Kegel.

I mentioned it to the physiotherapist who prescribed the Kegels, and she looked at me like I have two heads.

[moriah]

You don't need analyzing
It is not so surprising
That you feel very strange but nice
Your heart goes pitter patter
I know just what's the matter
Because I've been there once or twice

Put your head on my shoulder
You need someone who's older
A rub down with a velvet glove
There is nothing you can take
To relieve that pleasant ache
You're not sick, you're just in love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LAijDQ2cIE#t=0m55s)

[JBDivmstr]

I'm exactly the same; I've started doing Kegels and I get that sensation every time. I feel that it's triggering some sort of hormonal reaction, and I wonder if it could be a "bad" thing; if it could lead to a hormone imbalance or dysfunction?

I've also noticed a similar sensation when trying to fall asleep at night. One minute I'm drifting off, and the next second I have a surge of energy (adrenaline??) and my brain kicks into high gear. Tiny problems or tasks left undone during the day suddenly loom huge in my consciousness, and there is little chance of sleep. It's not exactly like adrenaline though, there are no jitters or increased heart or respiratory rate. It just feels like a small flood of energy or a frisson. Every time I do a Kegel.

I mentioned it to the physiotherapist who prescribed the Kegels, and she looked at me like I have two heads.

It's the onset of the 'zombie virus'! :p
It shouldn't be too long, before you start having cravings for 'braaaaaiiiiinnnssss'! :D

[Floppy Joe]

I do this all the time. I think it is definitely an adrenaline rush. My technique involves imagining spinning up a large rotor wheel in my head. The faster I imagine making it go, the more adrenaline I pump. I can usually keep it ramping up for 10 - 15 seconds before it rapidly falls off. Repeated back-to-back attempts usually result in a lessening of the ramp.

[Floppy Joe]

As an aside, I'd love to have an EEG while I ramp-up, just to see if there is any indication of the "feeling".