"The 7 astronauts are in Hell." You can probably guess who said it.

[airdisc]

Yes, good ol' Fred Phelps himself said that the 7 astronauts are in Hell. Why? I don't know, you can download the files here (http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/feb2003/The_7_Are_In_Hell_2-2-2003.pdf) and here (http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/feb2003/Thank_God_For_Doom_Of_Columbia_2-1-2003.pdf).

Every time I think Fred Phelps can get no lower, he proves me wrong. I hate you, Phelps.

[jjimm]

Good God - putsthose Iraqi guys (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=160090) into perspective.

[Coldfire]

Sweet thundering fuck. That's astonishingly repulsive.

... which is probably just what this Preacher of Hate wants. Attention.

This man is no Christian. He's a fucking lunatic with no tact whatsoever.

God, how disgusting.

[samarm]

Defies belief. Those people must have suffered a horrible fate. Some people get some sick enjoyment from thinking they are in hell.

Not worth any acknowledgement, IMO.

[iampunha]

Gosh. I am so surprised. Fred Phelps takes advantage of an international-level (at least regarding the amount of publicity it's generated) to further his message of hate, regardless of how mindless it seems to most people.

In other news, religious experts believe they have ascertained that the beliefs of Pope John Paul II are (mostly, at least; that whole "no female priests" thing is starting to conflict;)) in line with most Catholics, and forensic detectives claim to have found faeces belonging to the brown bear family in woods.

[Meatros]

Originally posted by Coldfire
Sweet thundering fuck. That's astonishingly repulsive.


Not to trivialize the appaulingness (is that a word?) of the issue, but Coldfire-you made me laugh with these sentences!

[Elenfair]

Freddy boy strikes again.

Look, I believe in the whole "freedom of speech" thing, but can we put that fucknugget behind bars? Or at least gag him for a while? Maybe cut out his tongue?

Better yet! A STONING! Let's have a stoning! I'm getting the impression that Gawd would probably approve, at this rate.

This kind of assmonkey makes you want to believe there *is* a hell of fire and all that crap, just so you can feel better he's gonna be a-roasting for eternity once he croaks.

Sheesh.

[istara]

Can you believe my stupid fking work terminal (a) does not have Acrobat reader, and (b) won't let me instal it?

Can someone cut and paste a cite from the article?

Many thanks!

[Elenfair]

Freddy boy strikes again.

Look, I believe in the whole "freedom of speech" thing, but can we put that fucknugget behind bars? Or at least gag him for a while? Maybe cut out his tongue?

Better yet! A STONING! Let's have a stoning! I'm getting the impression that Gawd would probably approve, at this rate.

This kind of assmonkey makes you want to believe there *is* a hell of fire and all that crap, just so you can feel better he's gonna be a-roasting for eternity once he croaks.

Sheesh.

[Nanoda]

iampunha - Hey, they're moving ahead with the patron saint of the Internet (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,49995,00.html), don't ask too much at once! ;)

Man, I've heard of some of his other nasty stuff, and this surprised me anyways! I'm glad I'm in Canada, since God is against America. I'd be all "Oh no, I dropped my ice-cream cone! God must be smiting me! Should I bend over to pick it up? Better not... 'cause 'America is a sodomite nation'!"

[matt_mcl]

America is a sodomite nation, incapable of repenting... [God was] mocking and deriding this nation of fags.

Now that's just crazy talk. If the United States was a nation of fags, I would be the first to hear about it.

Now it seems to me that if God was really blowing things up to get back at the homos, the CN Tower and the North Sea Reclamation Works would have been the first to go, right? (A giant phallic symbol and a bunch of dykes, even!)

[Jonathan Chance]

My brain hurts.

I saw 'Phelps' and my head got stuck on Ken Phelps, the underappreciated slugger from the Oakland A's in the 1980s and I was in a loop trying to figure out how he got from there to here.

Ow.

[Gyrate]

I'm off to go see whether the Bible actually contains the word "sprinkle".

<googles>

By golly, it does! Someone tell Annie!

[Kantalooppi]

Actually, I didn't guess who said it - my guess were the radical Moslem teenagers at ClearGuidance. (http://forums.clearguidance.com/) But yeah, Fred Phelps would probably have been the second guess.

Phelps doesn't even bother to explain why, specifically, the seven astronauts are in hell (except that they were, apparently, symbols of the "fag America.")

[KidCharlemagne]

Those links were worth it just to expand my vocabulary re: fag-enabler and fagjunk

[TwistofFate]

[i]Can you believe my stupid fking work terminal (a) does not have Acrobat reader, and (b) won't let me instal it?

Can someone cut and paste a cite from the article?
Alas, tis not possible, as Acrobat won't allow it (unless you have distiller.

[Duck Duck Goose]

Although you may wish I hadn't bothered, after you read it.

First one:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/feb2003/The_7_Are_In_Hell_2-2-2003.pdf

Listen up, America! Here is our report on Columbia:
The Seven are in Hell!

<< grainy B&W photo of seven, with their names >>

The Columbia space shuttle symbolizes America's superior technology. Superior technology --including military killing prowess--makes America the only superpower. The arm of the Lord--in one instant--reduced American technology to a sprinkling of debris and body parts over East Texas--home of fag-enabler Bush; "So shall he SPRINKLE many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider." Isaiah 52:15. America is doomed.

Any other interpretation of the tragic events of Feb. 1 is rank atheism and fagjunk theology by sodomite propagandists.

America is a sodomite nation, incapable of repenting. Her population is almost entirely Hell-bound, as it was in the days of Noah, as it was in the days of Lot, as it was in the days of Jeremiah: "Therefore, pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me; for I will not hear thee." Jeremiah 7:16. From Bush down--preachers, priests, rabbis, politicians, pundits, reporters--all suddenly become theologians preaching lies and spinning fables about the meaning of the space shuttle tragedy. God's Arm hurled Columbia in fragments to the ground, and hurled the 7 fools into the everlasting fires of Hell--in wrath and vengeance, laughing, mocking and deriding this nation of fags.Second one.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/feb2003/Thank_God_For_Doom_Of_Columbia_2-1-2003.pdf
News Release

WBC to picket the United States of America--noon Feb. 3. at the Federal Courthouse 444 SE Quincy, Topeka, Kan. -- In religious protest & warning: Because the USA is now an idolatrous nation controlled by sodomites at every level and branch, God hates America, has set His Face against America, and has purposed by an irreversible decree to destroy her.

Pursuant thereto,
The doom of space shuttle Columbia on Feb. 1 was another direct and immediate stroke of God's wrath against America. A holy adumbration of more and worse things to come.

Therefore, all true servants of God say, heartily,
Thank God for the Doom of Columbia!

"Except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it; except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain." Psa. 127:1

But the situation is infinitely worse with the USA. God is not merely withdrawing His help. No. God is irreversibly determined to actively destroy this evil fag nation--and that by committing to the task all the infinite resources of the Godhead. Nor has He the least reluctance. Rather, God shall destroy America with relish, laughing, mocking, and deriding her in her agony. "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh; the Lord shall have them in derision." Psa. 2:4 "But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof; I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh." Prov. 1:25, 26

God Blew Up Columbia!

Deal with it! In holy wrath and vengeance, God blew up the space shuttle, and cast the seven arrogant cowards into Hell: "Cast into Hell," "Thrust down to Hell," "Cast into the lake of fire." Mat. 5:29; Lk. 10:15, Rev. 20:14. Bush can't blame the Arabs, as he did with Sept. 11. Also, Columbia strikes a mortal blow to America's vaunted technological prowess, demonstrating to all but the wilfully blind that the world's-only-superpower might can disappear with a puff when God Almighty pleases. "But rather fear Him which is able to destroy both body and soul in Hell. Mat. 10:28 "And thou, Capernaum (America), which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to Hell...But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee." Mat. 11:23,24

Bush has no defense against America's greatest Enemy--God Almighty!
Indeed, this incompetent braggart enrages God even more hoisting his shield: "Fag-Enabler!" A week after Sept. 11, Bush sent an fag Michael Guest, right, & 'wife' Alex as U.S. Ambassador to Rumania. Fags say Bush is better than Clinton: "Bush has quietly appointed six gay men for positions in his administration." San Francisco Chronicle, 12/29/02.Sorry about any typos. [sic] [sic] [sic] :rolleyes: Somehow I don't have much heart for proofreading a couple buckets of vomit.

I've always known he was a raving loonie, but as I type this, I find myself wondering for the first time whether he might not be truly demon-possessed. Satan's appointed tool to turn people away from Christianity? It's a thought.

[Estilicon]

Abdul Jabbar al-Quraishi and Abdul Jabbar al-Quraishi together with or people from the middle east and all the islamic weren't the only assholes in this planet after all.

JohnnyIsGood and specially that fucking idiot of milroyj would sure like to comment on this.

(for those who don't know what the hell I am saying follow jjimm
link).

[Xerxes]

I hadn't previously heard of this raving lunatic before today. And today I wish I still hadn't.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but....... the header of the pdf includes the words 'Westboro Baptist Church'; is this for real? Does this shit-for-brains have a following? (If the answers are yes and yes I think I'm just going to end it now).

[Beagle]

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

No, not really

[TwistofFate]

yes they're real, no, except for his extended family.

[Coldfire]

Originally posted by matt_mcl
Now it seems to me that if God was really blowing things up to get back at the homos, the CN Tower and the North Sea Reclamation Works would have been the first to go, right? (A giant phallic symbol and a bunch of dykes, even!) Hey, get yer paws off our dykes, dammit!

Funny you should mention the dykes. This weekend marked the 50th aniversary of the Big Flood of February 1953 (http://people.zeelandnet.nl/voeveren/inleiding%20rampE.htm), where in a freak storm, the dykes gave way, flooding almost the entire province of Zeeland, and parts of Zuid-Holland and Noord-Brabant. The flood took over 1,800 lives, and left many more homeless.

Reverends in the villages that lost half their population sometimes STILL had the fucking nerve to preach that the flood was God's wrath. Remember, these were estremely religious villages in rural Netherlands of 1953. I doubt there was a lot of weed smoking and whore banging going on back then. Let alone fags!

It just goes to show: evil comes in many forms, and at times it hides as religion. No offense to any true Christians reading this - they know who they are, and would undoubtedly agree that Phelps and his ilk do NOT represent Chrisitanity as a whole.

[DoctorJ]

Usually, when Phred spews his bilge, I can at least follow his logic. That logic is tenuous and usually eye-rollingly ridiculous, but it does create a tenuous connection between the hellbound sinner/sinners in question and faggotry.

Here, though, I'm at a loss. I can understand why he believes God smote the Columbia in retribution against our fag-enabling nation. (It's horseshit, but I understand it.) What I don't understand is why that necessarily means the astronauts are going to hell. I mean, none of them was gay to my knowledge, and for all Phred knows they may have been just as strongly opposed to faggotry as he is (and as he claims God is). (I doubt it, of course.)

Fred Phelps is one of very few human beings on this planet that I have no use for. When he dies, I will not be saddened.

[Michael Ellis]

Jumping Jesus in Jeri Ryan's Jumpsuit! What an asshole!

[Steve Wright]

Well, I was just moved to say a short prayer:

"Dear Lord, please save Fred Phelps' soul from hell."

Because I think he's beyond any mortal help ... What must it be like, to be that man? I can hardly imagine anything more horrible than having to view the world through his eyes.

[RickJay]

Originally posted by matt_mcl
Now it seems to me that if God was really blowing things up to get back at the homos, the CN Tower and the North Sea Reclamation Works would have been the first to go, right? (A giant phallic symbol and a bunch of dykes, even!)
If you blow up the CN Tower, ya gotta blow up the Skydome too. It's the vagina symbol to go with the CN Tower.

No, stop laughing. Find a picture of them. It's true. If the dome was open and everyone in the upper deck wore fur coats it would look like the world's largest hoochie. It's no coincidence that the Jumbotron is right where the clitoris should be. Phallus and vagina, right next to each other. It's a gigantic, million-ton fertility symbol. I'm not sure if it's disgusting or really cool.

However, I'll say one thing for Fred Phelps; the man knows how to come up with excellent names for rock bands:

Fagjunk Theology

or just Fagjunk

Idolatrous Nation

The Sodomite Propagandists

Adumbration

Wouldn't you buy a record by "Fagjunk"? I know I would. The world needs a really wicked gay-punk-sacreligious-imagery band.

[fluiddruid]

Has anyone started to guess that maybe, just maybe, Phelps is pulling our legs here? I mean, I would guess that the man has no love for gay people, but knowing how he makes his living I can see why he'd spout nonsense just to make people mad.

"Any other interpretation of the tragic events of Feb. 1 is rank atheism and fagjunk theology by sodomite propagandists." ... Does that make Phelps the one true prophet of God? No other interpretations? How could he make that claim plausible even to other radical right Christians?

[Captain Amazing]

Yeah, but old Fred condemns everyone to hell. You know, there was a time when a religious leader threatening damnation meant something. The pope issued an excommunication, the Ayatollah issued a fatwa on Rushdie, and it was a big deal, but for Fred, it's a kind of religious Tourette's. He's ruining the whole damnation process.

[Eats_Crayons]

Originally posted by Xerxes
I hadn't previously heard of this raving lunatic before today. And today I wish I still hadn't.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but....... the header of the pdf includes the words 'Westboro Baptist Church'; is this for real? Does this shit-for-brains have a following? (If the answers are yes and yes I think I'm just going to end it now). Phelps earned quite a bit of notoriety after Matthew Sheppard was killed in a very gay-bashing that was so brutal and cruel that it earned international attention (I'm a skinny 5'4" female -- Matthew Sheppard was even smaller than me. He was tortured pistol whipped and tied to a fence-post where he was left to die).

Yes, he has a following. They spend a lot of time picketing the funerals of dead homosexuals (like Matthew Sheppard), or dead suspected homosexuals with their, "God hates fags!" and "He's gone straight to hell" signs. During the trial of Mattehw Sheppard's killers, his church had organized a "God hates fags" protest on the courthouse steps in support of the killers.

In a remarkable display of compassion and humanity, a separate "good Christian group" calling themselves "Angels of Peace" (IIRC), built themselves wings and passively counter-protested Phelps by raising their wings up to block the media's view of Phelps and his group -- interfering with the national press coverage he was trying so hard to get.

His comments on the Coulmbia disaster leave me speechless. Just when you think he can't sink any lower... *shaking head in disbelief*

[martin_ibn_martin]

Originally posted by Kantalooppi
Actually, I didn't guess who said it - my guess were the radical Moslem teenagers at ClearGuidance. (http://forums.clearguidance.com/) But yeah, Fred Phelps would probably have been the second guess.

Do NOT think these twits represent the majority of muslims. I wouldn't even call them fundamentalists, as they ignore large chunks of the Quran in favor of their silly interpretations.

Every religion has their Fred Phelps's.

Hijack ended

Martin

[Jonathan Chance]

But appreciated.

I never did quite get what the shuttle folks had done to earn the damnation. Anyone want to clarify?

[Eats_Crayons]

Musing....

Come to think of it, Phelps has really lost all ability to offend me. Several years ago I went to take a look at his website -- it had and animated gif of Matthew Sheppard's head bobbing in hellfire. If you mouseover the gif, Sheppard's mouth opens à la David Hasselhoff on South Park and a voice shriek's "for God's sake, listen to Phelps." It was so over-the-top in juvenile ridiculouslness, that Phelps just no longer has enough credibility as a spewer of hatred to even motivate me to muster some vague indignation.

It would be like having Bozo the Clown or Homer Simpson standing in front of you, pointing at you and chanting: "You are a stupidhead!... You are a stupidhead!..."

His ranting is just so childish and silly that I just can't take it seriously enough to be the slightest bit perturbed by it. (Though I kind of like the phrase "Fagjunk Theology.")

[Arden Ranger]

Do we have to share humanity with this asshammer?

[Eats_Crayons]

Originally posted by Jonathan Chance
But appreciated.

I never did quite get what the shuttle folks had done to earn the damnation. Anyone want to clarify? They didn't do anything. It is America that is being punished. God just made an example of them because they are a part of the whole fag-enabling system, dontcha know.

You know what Phelps is missing? That "Haw! Haw! Haw!..." Jack Chick laughter. Hmm. Definitley.

[jjimm]

Originally posted by Jonathan Chance
I never did quite get what the shuttle folks had done to earn the damnation. Anyone want to clarify? The shuttle is a symbol of sodomite hubris? Or something?

[Slip Mahoney]

God is good.

The Devil is bad.


So, how come when something bad happens, God takes the fall for it?

Nobody ever blames the Devil for anything. It's always "God's will".

Fuck that. It was the Devil what done it, and that's final.

[syncrolecyne]

If you were someone who "Reverend" Phelps believed was not bound for Hell, then you would have some problems.

[Gyrate]

Fred and his friends shouldn't bother us for much longer -- I put a death curse (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5017/5017_01.asp) on them.

:dubious: :D

[Lute Skywatcher]

When Freddy-boy finally departs the living, he'll probably end up in a special secion of heaven where he'll be all alone. "Hey," he'll ask, "where is everybody?" The response will be, "In hell, right where you put them."

[Duck Duck Goose]

Eh, if it's a legpull, it's a "whoosh" the size of the Starship Enterprise.

No, he's for real, bad cess to 'im.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/9tc/9tc088.html
It is hard to get a clear picture of who and how many Fred Phelps leads. There are about 200 irregular visitors on the Westboro Baptist Church membership roll, but most of the 70 faithful attenders belong to the extended Phelps family of 13 adult children and 48 grandchildren.

"People always say 'you go to church with your family' like it's a bad thing," says Phelps's grandson Ben, 24, developer of www.godhatesfags.com, the church's official Web site. "Noah and Lot only worshiped with their families. That's biblical to me."

Ben admires his 70-year-old grandfather as someone with great knowledge of the Bible, and he wishes that "people would understand the whole message."

< snip >

Westboro Baptist outlines other points of its theology on the Internet. The church identifies itself as an "old time" or primitive Baptist congregation, where only the King James Version of the Bible is seen as trustworthy and where women cover their heads in church. The doctrine of predestination is strongly emphasized, and Arminians are denounced as "the apostate church."

Another unusual theological side note is the church's dating of Sodom and Gomorrah's destruction—an event Phelps references often—as occuring in 1898 B.C.

< snip >

This cause follows a long line of issues Phelps has sought to publicize since those early revival days. In 1947, at the age of 18, Phelps felt God directing him to preach against the fetishes of Ute and Navajo Native Americans. In 1951, Phelps had moved on to a new cause when he captured the attention of Time magazine with his brimstone preaching against petting and lust at John Muir College in Pasadena, California.

< snip >

Phelps's love of controversy and need for attention are only part of the force that drives his protests. At the root of his proclamations lies a bedrock belief that he should preach hate because "the Bible preaches hate. For every one verse about God's love, mercy, and compassion, there are two verses about his vengeance, hatred, and wrath. What you need to hear is that God hates people, and that your chances of going to heaven are nonexistent unless you repent."Westboro Baptist's statement of belief (note: There's another "Westboro Baptist Church" in Ottawa, Canada, so you have to make sure that you get the Topeka, Kansas church.)

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/aboutwbc.html
Established in 1955 by Pastor Fred Phelps, the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) of Topeka, Kansas still exists today as an Old School (or, Primitive) Baptist Church. In short, we adhere to the teachings of the Bible, preach against all form of sin (e.g., fornication, adultery, sodomy), and insist that the doctrines of grace be taught publicly to all men. These doctrines of grace were well summed up by John Calvin in his 5 points of Calvinism: Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints.

Although these doctrines are almost universally hated today, they were once loved and believed. For example, Augustine (one of the early Church fathers), Martin Luther (the founder of the Lutheran Church), John Knox (the founder of the Presbyterian Church), Augustus Toplady (hymnist and leader in the Episcopal Church), Charles Spurgeon (a well-known preacher), John Leland (who was partially responsible for our First Amendment in the United States), and Abraham Lincoln (raised in a tiny Old School Baptist church) are just a few examples of people who have advanced these ideas.

Please see The Doctrine of Absolute Predestination by Jerom Zanchius and our MEMO ON THE CHURCH. Most of the major Confessions of Faith throughout the history of the New Testament Church have also advanced these ideas.

So, even though the Arminian lies that "God loves everyone" and "Jesus died for everyone" are being taught from nearly every pulpit in this generation, this hasn't always been the case. In fact, if you are in a Church that supposedly believes the Bible, and you are hearing these lies, then your church has apostatized. If you are interested in this subject, we encourage you to do some independent research on the history of the Church from Adam to now and, more importantly, we encourage you to carefully read the entire Bible.

WBC engages in daily peaceful sidewalk demonstrations opposing the homosexual lifestyle of soul-damning, nation-destroying filth. We display large, colorful signs containing Bible words and sentiments, including: GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS HATE GOD, AIDS CURES FAGS, THANK GOD FOR AIDS, FAGS BURN IN HELL, GOD IS NOT MOCKED, FAGS ARE NATURE FREAKS, GOD GAVE FAGS UP, NO SPECIAL LAWS FOR FAGS, FAGS DOOM NATIONS, etc.

Perceiving the modern militant homosexual movement to pose a clear and present danger to the survival of America, exposing our nation to the wrath of God as in 1898 B.C. at Sodom and Gomorrah, WBC has conducted over 22,000 such demonstrations during the last twelve years at homosexual parades and other events (including funerals of impenitent sodomites, like Matthew Shepard). WBC teams have picketed all over the United States, and internationally (including Canada and Iraq). The unique picketing ministry of Westboro Baptist Church has received international attention, and WBC believes this gospel message to be this world's last hope. [sigh] Gotta love someone who's still fighting the "Arminian heresy". :rolleyes:

http://gbgm-umc.org/umhistory/wesley/arminian.stm
http://www.byronbible.org/ask/man/arminian2.html
Arminian doctrine is the term for a theological stance originating with James Arminius - a contemporary of John Calvin. His views include:

1). "Conditional Predestination" - which basically states that God predestines those He knows ahead of time will accept him; whereas Calvin taught an unconditional election;

2). "Free Will of Man" - a teaching that says that man is a free moral agent can actually choose God;

3). Unlimited Atonement - a teaching that Christ died for more than just the elect;

4). Resistible Grace - a teaching that says that since man is a free moral agent, if God calls him specifically to salvation, he can say no to God. and

5) - the most radical and troubling of all arminian doctrine: a teaching that you can lose your salvation, totally rejecting eternal security. They believe that you must live righteously if you are to retain your saved state. Through sin, a person who was once saved can lose it and be damned. This clearly violates the teachings of God's Word. I'm amazed that someone who is so obsessed with homosexuality has time to stop and dally with such esoteric fine points of sectarian Protestant theology.

I'm also amazed at someone who thinks that picketing Bill Clinton's mother's funeral with signs reading "FAGS BURN IN HELL" counts as a "peaceful sidewalk demonstration".

[NoClueBoy]

Though I don't believe in a literal burning Hell, I would gladly vote for one if I could toss Freddy boy in there!

With white hot needles in his eyes.

and a large rasp in his asshole

and give him a salt and lemon juice enema to take advantage of the damage the rasp did to his rectum

And then choke him for endless eons with his own severed genetalia

as if he has any

Damn! This really pissed me off!

[iampunha]

Originally posted by Jonathan Chance
I never did quite get what the shuttle folks had done to earn the damnation. Anyone want to clarify?

They died. A very loud death. A death (er, 7) recognized worldwide. So then you say something controversial about their deaths and instantly everyone is demonizing you. That means your name, and in some cases a brief history of your being on Earth, get coverage. People start talking about you; your message is delivered for free and all you had to do was spout irrelevant bullshit.

Except that most of us have gotten rather tired and bored from Fred's one-trick pony. "Phelps damns [insert person/people]" is no longer news. But since the newsmedia know they'll get viewers if they say the name "Fred Phelps" or "Westboro Baptist Church", my guess is they'll keep on reporting the stories, needless though they are to so many of us.

Personally, I'd like to see something happen such that his message is ended and his followers change their ways. Whether or not he stops living is rather irrelevant if the message ends. Let other people get their fun little "I hope he gets his eyes poked out by children with shark poking sticks!" kicks in. That's hate, too.

[Tuckerfan]

Originally posted by Arden Ranger
Do we have to share humanity with this asshammer? Personally, I don't think he's human.

[Left Hand of Dorkness]

We shouldn't throw Phelps in jail, or stone him, or sue him, or anything.

But oh, how I'd love for lightning to strike his church.

Daniel

[gobear]

It's pretty obvious that Fred Phelps is mentally ill and thus not responsible for his actions. Nobody with an onuce of sense can take his paranoid ravings as anything other than an expression of his deep psychosis.

He needs to be institutionalized.

[istara]

Good lord, I didn't realise Fred Phelps was mad. I don't really know who he is, other than someone you merkins rant alot about on here (generally I don't read the threads with him in the title).

I just imagined he was some uber-conservative preacher man. Not a fucking FREAK.

What an appalling, appalling thing for him to say, as a religious leader.

(and ditto the mad mullah in the UK, everyone hates him and wants him deported).

[norinew]

OK, let me get Mr. Phelps' take on my situation clarified:
I am an American (and I don't even hate homosexuals), and America is a "fag-enabling" nation, therefore, I'm gonna burn in hell. OK, so I could always move to a nation where gays are, oh, burned at the stake or some such, then I would be saved, right? Oh, no, probably not, because then I would most likely be living in a "non-Christian nation", which would condemn me to hell.

So, what, in Phelps' twisted outlook, would I have to do to "save my soul"? My guess: For one thing, I'd have to convert (IANAC), then I'd probably have to go beat some homos to death with sharp sticks or something, then I'd have to join his church which means I'd have to marry into his "extended family". Yikes!

[Eats_Crayons]

Originally posted by istara
I just imagined he was some uber-conservative preacher man. Not a fucking FREAK.

What an appalling, appalling thing for him to say, as a religious leader.
Uh... I don't think "religious leader" is all that accurate since his "congregation" is primarily made up of his own extended family. Not someone anyone really looks to as a credible "leader." And even the most uptight religious right-wingers see him as a fringe wacko, I think.

So not "religious leader" more like "head of the raving loony pack."

[RTFirefly]

I had no idea that Phelps was a Primitive Baptist.

At least in my limited experience, one of the big differences between the Baptists of, say, the Southern Baptist Convention, and the Primitive Baptists, is the predestination business, and its intellectual consequence regarding whether there's any point to evangelism. (If humans are moral free agents, as the SBC believes, then yes; if we're all predestined - as the Primitives believe - as either part of the saved elect, or damned, then no.)

So I have a hard time seeing why Phelps makes such a mission out of protesting everywhere. If no souls will be rescued from depravity by his message, then what's the point, from his POV? I'm clueless here.

[NoClueBoy]

Originally posted by RTFirefly
I'm clueless here.


Hey! That's MY line!

[SisterCoyote]

Look.

Phelps condemns everyone to hell because he's afraid he'll be lonely when he gets there otherwise.

[ivylass]

Ah, the internet...made anyone with a few bucks, a DSL line, and a dream...

The man is sick. But, I think, worse for him, he is irrelevant.

[NutWrench]

Phelps is one of those people who would rather be hated than unknown.

[CrankyAsAnOldMan]

This makes me want to go commit sodomy.

Honestly, I'm not actually that offended if some U.S.-hating extremists in the Middle East say they are glad this happened. I get where they are coming from, even though I think they're small-minded little pinheads. But for this guy to have these seven burning for all our sins--it'd be offensive if it weren't just so laughably ridiculous.

[Soup_du_jour]

"Dear Lord, please save Fred Phelps' soul from hell."No. The proper thing would be to pray:

"Dear Lord, please save hell from Fred Phelps' soul."

[Gatopescado]

"Any other interpretation of the tragic events of Feb. 1 is rank atheism and fagjunk theology by sodomite propagandists."

I damn near wet my pants laughing when I read this line! Holy Mollie!

_______________
Fagjunk Theology: Not just for sodomite propagandists anymore.

[Alatariel]

An example that there is always something worse in the world.

This guy makes Jack Chick seem like a major league theologian.

[Baldwin]

Okay, I never payed any attention to Phelps before, but now he goes on the list of people who get kicked right in the goddamned nuts if I ever meet them.

(Right behind Elliot Abrams, former assistant Secretary of State.)

[kaylasdad99]

Originally posted by gatopescado (N.B. quoting Phelps -- kd99)
"Any other interpretation of the tragic events of Feb. 1 is rank atheism and fagjunk theology by sodomite propagandists."

Come to think of it, if that's his position, why is he calling the events "tragic"?

[Apos]

---From Bush down--preachers, priests, rabbis, politicians, pundits, reporters--all suddenly become theologians preaching lies and spinning fables about the meaning of the space shuttle tragedy.---

Well, i don't much like Bush's seeming desire to set himself up as national theologian and tell us all about how god thinks and works, but is it really that odd for preachers and rabbis to be theologians? I mean... isn't that what a lot of them DO?

[Baldwin]

Originally posted by gatopescado (N.B. quoting Phelps -- kd99)
"Any other interpretation of the tragic events of Feb. 1 is rank atheism and fagjunk theology by sodomite propagandists."

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Come to think of it, if that's his position, why is he calling the events "tragic"?

Good question. Reminds me of September 12, 2001, when I saw nutjob Pat Robertson and -- damnit, what's that fat fuck's name? Oh, right -- Jerry Fallwell, who seemed to be at once condemning the terrorists and saying that the terrorists were doing God's will.

[kambuckta]

Originally posted by Captain Amazing
...but for Fred, it's a kind of religious Tourette's.

Oh that line alone was worth it. Bewdiful. :D

[Liberal]

Coldfire wrote:

Sweet thundering fuck. That's astonishingly repulsive.Nothing could better express my own sentiments.

[SCSimmons]

Originally posted by Baldwin
Okay, I never payed any attention to Phelps before, but now he goes on the list of people who get kicked right in the goddamned nuts if I ever meet them.

Ah yes, this brings to mind one of the more satisfying experiences of my young life ... One cold, rainy day in Irving, I was making my way along the 183 service road through the throngs of folks heading to the Billy Graham revival at Texas Stadium. What did I see by the side of the road but a gaggle of Westboro fucknuts standing in the rain waving anti-Graham signs. (He's pro-gay, you see, because he says that God actually loves homosexuals and wants them to repent their 'sin'. Whatever.)

I couldn't resist. As traffic started moving again, I held my place in front of their chosen protest point for a moment to get some space. Then I revved my engine, jammed the gearshift into first, and peeled out, swooping toward and then away from them through a very large puddle that had formed a few feet away. SPLOOSH.

Incredibly juvenile, I know. But it sure made my day. :D

[Guinastasia]

Originally posted by gobear
It's pretty obvious that Fred Phelps is mentally ill and thus not responsible for his actions. Nobody with an onuce of sense can take his paranoid ravings as anything other than an expression of his deep psychosis.

He needs to be institutionalized.

Dude, exactly.

The guy is NUTS. I read the story on Godhatesfundies.org about what it was like for the Phelps kids. He was ALWAYS that bad. Only before it wasn't about gays, it was about how he had to control his family.

The man is seriously demented. I don't even take anything he says seriously anymore-I'm not offended by him, in the way that I am by Jack Chick, because Phelps is a madman. He's delusional, he's sick, he's a fucking loon.

He beat his entire family into submission-some were able to get away, but the ones who stayed obviously are beaten. They're broken.

Anymore, I just shake my head and think, "My god, what a nightmare this man's house must be."

[matt_mcl]

This makes me want to go commit sodomy.

I know the feeling. :D

[Baker]

As I've mentioned in other threads I am a resident of Topeka, Kansas, where Fred lives. We see him all the time. He's not only a loony, his followers are dangerous loonies, who have, more than once physically attacked people.(The pastor of my former church, for starters) Of course they talk about being attacked themselves, and having their property vandalized, but I wouldn't be suprised if they did it all themselves on the sly.

Let me tell you about what happened just this latest Christmas Day. I arrived at church and saw that a crowd of Phelp's were across the street.(I attend Grace Episcopal Cathedral here in Topeka) I could have gone it a side door and avoided them id'ing me, but I figured "Damn, these folks are not going to stop me from going in the front door of my own church." So I walked down the sidewalk(they were across from me) and as soon as I got opposite them I was recognized.(I've done a lot of counterpicketing against them) The bells of our church were playing "Angels We Have Heard on High", so the guy leading the WBC contingent started singing, along with the "Gloria" chorus from the hymn, loud enough for me to hear. Only he wasn't singing Gloria, he was repeating over and over the words "church whore"

As matt_mcl could tell you, better than I, they have not neglected to picket in Canada. IU'd been avoiding the WBC site because I KNEW the kind of crap this tragedy would bring from them, but when I saw the thread title I had to open it.

[Sejal_Traurig]

Originally posted by Captain Amazing
He's ruining the whole damnation process.

I can't remember the last time a post made me laugh quite sp loudly as this one did...

[Mangetout]

...God's Arm hurled Columbia in fragments to the ground, and hurled the 7 fools into the everlasting fires of Hell--in wrath and vengeance, laughing, mocking and deriding this nation of fagsI don't believe for one minute that Phelps is saying this out of any supernatural insight, but whatever entity he is describing, it isn't God and it doesn't deserve any respect.

[iampunha]

Originally posted by Baker
The bells of our church were playing "Angels We Have Heard on High", so the guy leading the WBC contingent started singing, along with the "Gloria" chorus from the hymn, loud enough for me to hear. Only he wasn't singing Gloria, he was repeating over and over the words "church whore"

So not only are they tasteless, their improvised lyrics don't scan. That guy would have been better served saying "church whores we have heard on high" or something, and simply saying "faaaaaaaaaaaaaaggot" for the gloria part. Much more insulting *and* it scans.

Oh, and I'd like to personally thank Baldwin for this remark:

"damnit, what's that fat fuck's name?"

It was completely appropriate.

Not.

:rolleyes:

[TwistofFate]

well, thats my Porn name picked.

John Godsarm.

[matt_mcl]

As matt_mcl could tell you, better than I, they have not neglected to picket in Canada. IU'd been avoiding the WBC site because I KNEW the kind of crap this tragedy would bring from them, but when I saw the thread title I had to open it.

Heh, after a fashion. Having skipped Toronto Pride the day before, he announced a date to protest the M. vs. H. (common-law spouses) decision. We organized a great big counterprotest. He didn't show ;) Looks like he's scared by a bunch of angry fags & dykes.

He showed up the next day to burn a flag on the steps of the Supreme Court. A Mountie turned up to help him light it properly, "so you don't burn yourself and make us spend our public funds treating you."

The next day he got into a fistfight in Montreal in front of Mary Queen of the World Cathedral.

A good trip by all accounts!

[Daowajan]

Is there anybody in Phelps' heaven?

[kambuckta]

Over the time I have hung around this board I have seen Phelps' name bandied around a few times (only in the Pit IIRC), but have never had time/felt inclined until today to check out his agenda. So I visited a couple of sites after reading his pustulence in the OP.

Oh dear. I really wish I hadn't. That guy (and the agenda of the WBC) are just fucking insane.

We've got a Fundie Fred (Niles) here in Australia who spews the same line but thankfully without the same degree of utter disgustingness. We laugh at our Fred. I'd be shit-scared of your Fred though.



:confused:

[iampunha]

Before anyone takes offense at my "a much worse insult" comment, let me specify that to those who go to WBC, it is most probably a worse thing to be called a faggot than to be called a church whore. I doubt Baker would be insulted if someone were to suggest (in a non-offensive way, as in "Hey Baker, you don't happen to be gay, do you?") she were gay.

[Eats_Crayons]

Originally posted by matt_mcl
He showed up the next day to burn a flag on the steps of the Supreme Court. A Mountie turned up to help him light it properly, "so you don't burn yourself and make us spend our public funds treating you."
Oh, geez. I forgot about that. It was such a non-event. Canadians also don't invest nearly as much emotionally in our flag as our southerly neighbours, so IIRC his display was mostly met with bemusement. On-lookers mostly paused briefly to muse "hmm... wonder what's going on over there?..." and then wander off again. The sight of someone setting our flag ablaze doesn't provoke a visceral response as it would in the U.S. We might politley say "oh look, what a shame" and then move on. It barely got any news time except for the papers that said that could only report that a small handful of onlookers were vaguely paying attention.

In Toronto, such as display would probably be met with "Hmm, I wonder if their filming a TV show or something..."

[Bluegreen_isis]

I didn't read all of what everyone had to say in this thread, but as soon as I saw the name Phelps I was instantly interested.

Back about two months ago he came to the UND campus in Grand Forks, ND to tell us all what evil people we are b/c we have gay people here. I happened to be at the protest connected to his appearance (I was on the pro-gay side)

Anyway, there was one of his cronies STANDING ON THE AMERICAN FLAG...in fact, someone close to me took a picture (http://www.wildpoets.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=visualart&action=display&num=1041796505)

This pissed me off to know end, this guy is evil and rest assured he will spending a good amount of time with his good buddy Satan.

[iampunha]

Anyone getting the idea that Phelps, seeing people gradually saying "yeah, whatever" to his slogans, is trying to come up with increasingly "offensive" signs?

"God hates fags" ... yeah, whatever, go away (after a while)

What? They're not reacting to that one anymore? "God hates America!" Er, sure, Fred...

"God hates Everyone But Westboro Baptist Church"

Dear Fred, please get help.

"God Wants YOU for the Devil's Army. Enlist today and shoot commie fags and fag-enablers who aren't already burning in hell!"

...

"GOD HATES YOU! GODDAMNIT, REACT TO ME! I WANT TO BE CONTROVERSIAL AGAIN!" ::Fred collapses::

Talk about a rebel without a clue.

[nogginhead]

Just to stir things up a bit, I agree that the guy is aloonie tune, and his rants are truly offensive in every way. But in the sense that he's just trying to score some publicity for himself (and succeeding, it would seem) how is what he's done so much worse than the overexposure we're all being subjected to on the news right now?

In one sense, he's better than channel kwkw's coverage of the tangential local link to one of the astronauts, because they're cheapening the tragedy to make a buck, while he at least has an actual point that he (if no one else) believes in.

He's just being more up front about it.

[Guinastasia]

It's more like watching a train wreck.

The guy is crazy. He isn't right in the head, soooo...

I do believe though, that most of Topeka has seen his kids do things they shouldn't. Aren't there rumors going around that his eldest daughter's "adopted" son is actually her real son, but because she's not married, they pass him off as adopted?

Or rumors about his family having affairs and stuff?

I also heard that Fred Jr. was picketing the Treasures of the Tsars exhibit. Why on EARTH would he do that? What did poor Nicky do to him?

[Philosophocles]

How long until this guy endorses beating up puppies?

[Baker]

Guinastasia, the rumors about the daughter are about the second oldest daughter, Margie, and her son Jacob. Ther oldest daughter is Kathy, who is my age, and who I was acquainted with in junior high. Kathy, last I heard, was not part of the family, at least not closely, as I heard she divorced.

About the Treasures of the Tsars exhibit several years ago, the whole clan did indeed picket, but not because of nay anti-Russian sentiments. It's just that they knew that lots of people would be there, many from out of state, and they wanted to get their message out. I took pictures. That photo link in an earlier post appeared to be of Jonathon Phelps, who led the Tsars pickets, and whom I have several photos of.

Not sure if they are picketing the current Russian exhibit. It's at a different site, and there are no public sidewalks or parking near the entrances.

Yes, Topekans see things that don't always get out. The rector of one of our Episcopalian churches wrote a letter to the paper(not published) about how one of their women let her small boy urinate, from the sidewalk, onto church property, into a flower bed. But it was his word against what would presumably be their denial of the incident. The paper wouldn't publish so the church put it in their newsletter. I remember on phrase "Dear God, they desecrated the daylilies" For some perverse reason I laughed at that.

[iampunha]

Originally posted by nogginhead
But in the sense that he's just trying to score some publicity for himself (and succeeding, it would seem) how is what he's done so much worse than the overexposure we're all being subjected to on the news right now?

Firstly, to how many stories are we overexposed that feature people who seem to derive almost orgasmic joy at proclaiming "God's hate" at anyone and everyone? The only example I can think of that even comes close is coverage of ObL, and that can sometimes serve a purpose of educating the general public about some aspect of national security.

And then there's the fact of the message that's being sent both by him and the media. it doesn't even take two functioning brain cells to see Phelps as evil. However, it's evil that seems to be attracting people to watch their news or read their paper, so it's making those companies reporting on it a buck.

nogginhead also said:In one sense, he's better than channel kwkw's coverage of the tangential local link to one of the astronauts, because they're cheapening the tragedy to make a buck, while he at least has an actual point that he (if no one else) believes in.

So then you're saying that perpetuating a message of hate is better than talking about a local link to the seven victims of the Columbia tragedy this past Sunday. And doesn't the "tangential local link to one of the astronauts" have a point too, in that people in, say, Felch Michigan or Puget Sound, Washington St. are affected in a very real way by the disaster? It's that whole "small world" idea.

And Philosophocles, if it got him followers or money or whatever, I think he'd probably endorse child-beating. It wouldn't be a stretch of his "morals" at all, as any who have read the early chapters of the account of his children's upbringing can tell you.

[Tuckerfan]

Originally posted by Coldfire
Sweet thundering fuck. That's astonishingly repulsive.
Heh, I reread this and I could just picture that being the tag line for a spoof of the old Reese's Peanut Butter Cups commercials:

Person 1: Hey! You got your Phelps in my religion!
Person 2: Hey! You got your religion in my Phelps!
Together: Sweet thundering fuck. That's astonishingly repulsive.

[Siege]

The sad thing is, he is desecrating a religion I hold very dear by directly contradicting its second and I'd be willing to bet its first commandment. I'd be willing to bet Phelps loves himself a lot more than God, although he wouldn't admit it! He and the rest of the "Homosexuals are going to Hell!" crowd also drown out those of us Christians who disagree with them.

I don't believe in condemning people to hell; it's not my place to. I do believe we create our own heaven and hell, and Phelps is creating a lovely one for himself, filled with hatred, anger, and pain. The thing is, I wonder if he'll recognize it. I can just hear the exchange:
"My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?"
"Why have you forsaken Me?"

:Sigh: Guys like this make me wonder if the Wiccans are accepting recruits!

CJ

[evilbeth]

Originally posted by Tuckerfan
Heh, I reread this and I could just picture that being the tag line for a spoof of the old Reese's Peanut Butter Cups commercials:

Damnit, Tuckerfan, I cannot be laughing like that at work when I'm pretending to be actually working! Stop that!

[nogginhead]

Originally posted by iampunha
Firstly, to how many stories are we overexposed that feature people who seem to derive almost orgasmic joy at proclaiming "God's hate" at anyone and everyone? The only example I can think of that even comes close is coverage of ObL, and that can sometimes serve a purpose of educating the general public about some aspect of national security.


I agree of course that the message is repulsive. But at least it's honest! The endless loops of newsreel the TV will show for weeks has nothing behind it except the notion that people will stay tuned to watch the next ad for astonishingly repulsive sweet fat bars.

What's ObL?

I think if you have just a small amount of faith in humanity, they will recognize this pustule for what he is, and showing him on TV will also educate people about how not to think and behave.



And then there's the fact of the message that's being sent both by him and the media. it doesn't even take two functioning brain cells to see Phelps as evil. However, it's evil that seems to be attracting people to watch their news or read their paper, so it's making those companies reporting on it a buck.


Let's not get into the ethics of the 'news' outlets that cover this ultra-maroon. It's worse than 'news' coverage of Joe Millionaire on your local Fox evening news. Or 'fastlane'.

I guess I think it's the producers of the show that have only two brain cells. They think he's entertaining, so they show him.



So then you're saying that perpetuating a message of hate is better than talking about a local link to the seven victims of the Columbia tragedy this past Sunday.


Whoa, nelly. I'm saying the news station and Phred are doing the same thing and that he may be less awful. Not that covering Phelps and covering the columbia are the same.


And doesn't the "tangential local link to one of the astronauts" have a point too, in that people in, say, Felch Michigan or Puget Sound, Washington St. are affected in a very real way by the disaster? It's that whole "small world" idea.


A very real way? How? Not more than the death of a mid-level executive by heart failure, surely? But the 'news' plays up one and ignores the other. So they can sell us.

[SisterCoyote]

Originally posted by cjhoworth
:Sigh: Guys like this make me wonder if the Wiccans are accepting recruits!

Under normal circumstances, no. (Most covens are exclusive, not inclusive.)

However, the Unitarian Universalists would be happy if you'd like to come over. You don't even have to give up Christianity (http://www.uua.org/uucf/).

;)

[Siege]

Actually, I do have some connections to a coven in Maine where I know I'd be welcome and one in Ohio where I probably would be. I was just amused by the image. Thanks, but I think I'll stay Episcopalian for now -- this way I get to bask in Polycarp's reflected glory (or is that just him blushing!) ;)

CJ

[Duck Duck Goose]

What's ObL? Osama Bin Laden.

When last heard from, Fred was going to picket the Topeka Federal Courthouse at noon yesterday, to protest America's toleration of sodomy. So I go over to the Topeka Capitol-Journal Online, to see if they're featuring it, I type "phelps" into their Search box, and glory be if they don't have an entire PAGE devoted to Fred Phelps, with video clips and all kinds of archival stuff.

http://cjonline.com/webindepth/phelps/
Online editor's note

Since we launched CJOnline.com almost five years ago, one of the most constant requests we receive from readers across the nation is an archive of our newspaper's coverage of Topeka minister Fred Phelps Sr. We get these requests from everyone from college students writing term papers to offended people who have recently found out about his church to those just plain fascinated or interested... The latest article in their "Phelps Archive" is dated October 2001. Looks to me like he's history as far as the editors of the C-J are concerned. No more free publicity from the C-J for Ol' Fred, looks like.

But ne'mind all that, he's moving on, to Nashville on February 18.

http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/03/02/28488447.shtml?Element_ID=28488447

Tuesday, 02/04/03

Anti-gay minister plans to picket 'Satan's Nashville Axis of Evil'

By ANNE PAINE
Staff Writer

The anti-gay Pastor Fred Phelps — who has incensed both advocates and opponents of a proposal to expand a Metro anti-discrimination law to homosexuals and bisexuals — says he's coming back to town.

This time the Topeka, Kan., fire-and-brimstone preacher said he will picket ''Satan's Nashville Axis of Evil.''

''God hates,'' he contends, the Metro Council for its proposed law, Vanderbilt University, which provides health benefits for domestic partners of gay employees, and Glendale Baptist Church, whose associate pastor, April Baker, is lesbian.

Phelps and about five members of his Westboro Baptist Church, mainly his family, protested at the Metro Council last month when the proposal came up on the third of three required votes.I like that, "...has incensed opponents of the proposal, too." "Please don't help us, Fred..."

And I like the mental image of a Nashville Axis of Evil. Wonder how God feels about C & W music...? :D

[vivalostwages]

Quoting Pres. Bush: "The crew of the space shuttle Columbia did not return to Earth. Yet we can pray that all are safely home."

Paraphrasing from memory a minister at a friend's mom's memorial just yesterday: "(quotes statement above, then launches into commentary): [The deceased] knew God and has gone home. But those who don't know God [making clear that the seven are included in this category] don't get to go home."

:(

I can't speak for all who attended, but I know I could have done without this part.

[tdn]

Originally posted by cjhoworth
I'd be willing to bet Phelps loves himself a lot more than God, although he wouldn't admit it!

I'll take that bet. Lunacy like this doesn't stem from self-love, it stems from deep self-hatred.

Why, oh why do I feel sorry for the guy?

Oh wait -- I don't.

[Guinastasia]

Hmmm...what were his kids like in high school? The candy crusades and the fiance who committed suicide?

That whole family is nuts.

[Baker]

No, not all of them are nuts Guinastasia. Two sons and one daughter live seperate lives, and maybe Kathy, the one I once knew, too. The one daughter, Dortha, went so far as to change her surname so whe wouldn't be automatically associated with her family.

[Guinastasia]

Oh, yeah, I remember. I just mean, it seems like they've all been so damaged by Fred himself. It's so sad.

[ivylass]

Originally posted by SisterCoyote
Under normal circumstances, no. (Most covens are exclusive, not inclusive.)

However, the Unitarian Universalists would be happy if you'd like to come over. You don't even have to give up Christianity (http://www.uua.org/uucf/).

;)

You don't have to join a coven to be a Wiccan. You can be a solitary.

Phelps is a parody. In his singleminded zeal to proclaim his version of Christianity, he is alienating people from Christianity. I know I'd much rather go to Polycarp's heaven than Phelps'.

I find it interesting his congregation is made up mostly of his family.

[Mangetout]

Originally posted by ivylass
I'd much rather go to Polycarp's heaven than Phelps'I'd rather go to Phelps' hell than spend a minute with his psychotic asshole of a deity - I refuse to consider something worthy of respect, obeisance or worship simply because it wields the biggest stick.

But I think it's more likely that Phelps is a sockpuppet for the other guy.

[GaWd]

Originally posted by Elenfair
Freddy boy strikes again.
<snip>

Better yet! A STONING! Let's have a stoning! I'm getting the impression that Gawd would probably approve, at this rate.

<snip>

Sheesh.

Elenfair, I certainly *DO* approve...

[OttoDaFe]

Personally, I wouldn't send Fred Phelps to (the Judeo-Christian) Hell. Outside of the fact that it's not my place—and in any case he's doing a grand job of it all by hisself—I see two problems: first, not even Hell deserves Fred Phelps; and second, Satan probably doesn't want someone around who's a bigger demon than he (He?) is.

No, I think Oblivion is a better destiny.

In any case, I consider him (Fred) a good argument for retroactive birth control.

[Gyrate]

I was on another discussion list at a time when Ben Phelps (the grandson) and a fellow Westboroid were wreaking havoc there. At one point Ben P. commented that he hoped that God would let him help torment all us sinners in Hell when we all died.

I remember thinking how sad it was that, even assuming he got to Heaven, he would choose to spend eternity in Hell anyway. That's not a sign of a mind attuned to that of God, IMO.

[bobo]

Am I the only person that wants to write an email explaining why that URL was requested by my IP address? I don't even like reading such hate bullshit.

eg... Dear Sysadmin, I am not a total asshat, I didn't look at where the link pointed!!! people were mocking this asshole. I'm sorry, don't think I hang out there... etc etc etc

(yeah yeah yeah, I know the chances of an actual human reading those logs are close to nil... but I know all the data points that my routers log, and it's conceivable that I might grep through those... someday... maybe... awwww, hell I'm lazy... maybe I'll toss together some perl code to break down stats for me, that's more likely)

[Seven]

Originally posted by jr8
Fred and his friends shouldn't bother us for much longer -- I put a death curse (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5017/5017_01.asp) on them.

:dubious: :D

Wow! Nice Job.

Looks like it worked.


Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.

Apache/1.3.22 Server at www.godhatesfags.com Port 80


Looks like the site got switched off.

[Gyrate]

Originally posted by Seven
Wow! Nice Job.

Looks like it worked.

Looks like the site got switched off. Cool! I'm changing my name to Elfstar!


Or maybe Debbie. :p

[Baker]

It's baaaaack! Ugh, can't it stay dead?

[Tuckerfan]

Originally posted by Baker
It's baaaaack! Ugh, can't it stay dead? Well, maybe someone removed the wooden stake from the server's motherboard! ;)

[Seven]

Looks like someone put the stake back.

There is nothing I like better then a crap site in trouble. :) :)

[Mangetout]

The Lord moves in mysterious ways.

[Gyrate]

No, it's up. Alas.

[Rune]

Well Fred doesn’t sleep alone. Idiotic people are condemning then to hell left and right it seems.

The worthless Abu Hamza (may hell be upon him) spews forth:
“It is a punishment from God. Muslims see it that way. It is a trinity of evil because it carried Americans, an Israeli and a Hindu, a trinity of evil against Islam”

Yeah whatever Abu, now go bugger your 72 virgins.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-565682,00.html

[Annie-Xmas]

When Phelps dies, I hope someone pickets his funeral: Fred Phelps in Hell.