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BoBettie
05-30-2003, 07:49 AM
In this thread:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=187256

NinjaChick posted:
Originally posted by NinjaChick
I don't really agree with the pledge, as I have an Issue with swearing my undying loyalty to a nation (giving my word means a lot to me, and I simply don't swear utterly loyalty to this nation,) and I find the phrase "I pledge allegience to the flag" simply rediculous.

To which Buck the Diver replied:

"Rediculous"?

Perhaps you mean:

Main Entry: ri·dic·u·lous
Pronunciation: r&-'di-ky&-l&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ridiculosus (from ridiculum jest, from neuter of ridiculus) or ridiculus, literally, laughable, from ridEre to laugh
Date: 1550
: arousing or deserving ridicule : ABSURD, PREPOSTEROUS
synonym see LAUGHABLE
- ri·dic·u·lous·ly adverb
- ri·dic·u·lous·ness noun

Rant on, my dear.


No thoughts on the OP, no opinion on the topic posted. Just an entire post to point out a spelling error. "Perhaps you mean"? "Rant on my dear"? What a tool. Here's an idea for the spelling police: If you know what the word is and it's obviously a typo/misspelling, ignore it and move on. Her meaning was clear, and your correction of her spelling struck me as

Main Entry: ri·dic·u·lous
Pronunciation: r&-'di-ky&-l&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ridiculosus (from ridiculum jest, from neuter of ridiculus) or ridiculus, literally, laughable, from ridEre to laugh
Date: 1550
: arousing or deserving ridicule : ABSURD, PREPOSTEROUS
synonym see LAUGHABLE
- ri·dic·u·lous·ly adverb
- ri·dic·u·lous·ness noun

and

Entry Word: indecorous
Function: adjective
Text: not conforming with accepted standards of propriety or good taste <they regarded argument in public as indecorous>
Synonyms improper, indecent, indelicate, malodorous, ridiculous, rough, unbecoming, undecorous, ungodly, unseemly, untoward
Related Word inappropriate, incorrect, unbefitting, unfit, unfitting; immodest, inelegant, undignified; coarse, gross, loose, offensive, shameful, tasteless, vulgar; discourteous, ill-mannered, impolite, rude, uncivil; irregular, unlawful
Idioms in bad form


You spelling police really get on my nerves. Who died and left you in charge of proofreading people's posts? It is beyond rude. I hope to hell you have better sense when you're in a real life conversation and you don't go around correcting usage and pronunciation for people. Ass.

UrbanChic
05-30-2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Zette
Who died and left you in charge of proofreading people's posts? Bob. His name was Bob.

Ethilrist
05-30-2003, 08:04 AM
Well, I have to admit,I simply don't swear utterly loyalty to this nationthat this doesn't make much sense, either...

belladonna
05-30-2003, 08:04 AM
Heh Heh, you said "tool". That's my favorite insult evah!


And I totally concur with the OP. It's one thing to point out an error if it's the jump off for a good joke, but being pedantic for pendanticry's (is that a word? Quick, someone correct me!) sake is definitely toolish.

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by JuanitaTech
Bob. His name was Bob.

Well, then that's that. :)

Scarlett67
05-30-2003, 08:09 AM
Pedantry.

Kwyjibo
05-30-2003, 08:11 AM
It's a nice way to trip up a discussion. 'Buck the Diver' obviously feels witty and powerful for doing so.

"Ha ha! I caught a mistake in your argument! Ok, it was only a typo! But watch now as I discredit you!!!!"

Nothing a kick to the crotch and a cup of STFU couldn't cure...

belladonna
05-30-2003, 08:12 AM
Well, I did ask.....

:D

Qazzz
05-30-2003, 08:13 AM
Yeah, I think the spelling / grammar / thread police are all bitter people who know they can't contribute with something intellectually substantial, so instead they grade others' posts like a second grade teacher. And then they say foolishly arrogant things like "Rant on, my dear," in an effort to establish some sort of superiority. And it's frustrating not because it works, but because you just know they don't realize that it's not working; they are oblivious to the fact that they're pathetic and boring.

Boo
05-30-2003, 08:18 AM
maybe Buck should use his vastly superior spelling skills to go to dictionary.com and spell out the word "hypocrite" in the search window and see if he can apply the definition to anyone he knows....unless of course he has never made a spelling error.

elf6c
05-30-2003, 08:28 AM
Bravo Zette!!

What an assclown.

I strategy is to load my posts with so many grammitical errors and spelling mistakes, that the human versions of "Linguo the Grammar Robot" explode and send their heads shooting off into the sky- thus leaving my posts alone.

Yeah, that's it. . .

:p

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 08:36 AM
I strategy

Surely you mean "My strategy". Rant on, my little friend. Rant on.

;)

elf6c
05-30-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Zette
I strategy

Surely you mean "My strategy". Rant on, my little friend. Rant on.

;)

Heh heh heh- another victim of my clever Linguo defense. . . Yeahm that's the ticket. . .



:cool:

chattywine
05-30-2003, 08:46 AM
Rant On
Rant Off
Dear Ranter

.l.. :) ..l. spelling police!

Every freakin' time I post here I just KNOW they're going to get me.
I finally bookmarked Dictionary.com JUST to check spelling when I post here.
Typos are typos, minkia man.

Zyada
05-30-2003, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by JuanitaTech
Bob. His name was Bob.

Nooooooo! :(

Homebrew
05-30-2003, 09:23 AM
Poor Bob. Was it a peaceful exit or did he suffer?

gobear
05-30-2003, 09:25 AM
He died of too much pie. Still, pie gooooooooood.

if you don't know i won't tell
05-30-2003, 09:31 AM
Grammar corrections and spelling corrections are fine, as far as I'm concered. But doing it rudely, as in this instance, was unacceptable. I hope he realizes there are nicer ways to correct someone. After all, he may have meant it in a friendly way, and just come off a bit short.

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 09:43 AM
Paging Zenster, Paging Zenster...

Hopefully Zenster will pull his head out of his ass for a second and read this thread.


Here's hoping.

Kwyjibo
05-30-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by if you don't know i won't tell
Grammar corrections and spelling corrections are fine, as far as I'm concered. But doing it rudely, as in this instance, was unacceptable. I hope he realizes there are nicer ways to correct someone. After all, he may have meant it in a friendly way, and just come off a bit short. Nonsense.
If it doesn't add to the topic at hand, then leave it.

if you don't know i won't tell
05-30-2003, 10:06 AM
Course. I'm not saying one should go around and correct every error one sees. But I <will>, nicely, and sweetly, correct someone if they repeatedly mispell a word. I consider it a positive thing, not a negative, and haven't had much problem with people's responses. If I actually notice someone repeatedly mispelling something, it's a rather awful mispelling. Most I pay no attention to, as there is no point, and chances are, the person does know the correct way, and just wasn't paying attention. Like I said, in this instance, it was done rudely and was unnecessary. And on message boards such as this one, a post correcting someone is a bit silly. However. If a person makes a mistake, they don't know it's a mistake until someone tells them it is, and how to correct it. Hence spelling and grammar corrections.

Let me re-iterate: He was rude.

Kwyjibo
05-30-2003, 10:16 AM
I understand your point...

Originally posted by if you don't know i won't tell Grammar corrections and spelling corrections are fine, as far as I'm concered. But doing it rudely, as in this instance, was unacceptable. I hope he realizes there are nicer ways to correct someone. After all, he may have meant it in a friendly way, and just come off a bit short.and
Originally posted by if you don't know i won't tell Course. I'm not saying one should go around and correct every error one sees. But I <will>, nicely, and sweetly, correct someone if they repeatedly mispell a word. I consider it a positive thing, not a negative, and haven't had much problem with people's responses. If I actually notice someone repeatedly mispelling something, it's a rather awful mispelling. Most I pay no attention to, as there is no point, and chances are, the person does know the correct way, and just wasn't paying attention. Like I said, in this instance, it was done rudely and was unnecessary. And on message boards such as this one, a post correcting someone is a bit silly. However. If a person makes a mistake, they don't know it's a mistake until someone tells them it is, and how to correct it. Hence spelling and grammar corrections.

Let me re-iterate: He was rude.

...but that could get irritating and distracting if when someone is trying to converse with others and really ads nothing to the conversation. Spelling mistakes I make are usually caused by me thinking faster than I can type and the letters get muddled. It's not because I don't know how to spell, so pointing it out isn't going to teach me anything...only annoy me.

And I agree, he was very 'high and might' and rude.

Kwyjibo
05-30-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Kwyjibo ...but that could get irritating and distracting if when someone is trying to converse with others and really ads nothing to the conversation... See? Fingers not keeping up with my brain...believe me...it's annoying enough when I catch it myself...having it pointed out make it worse...IMNSHO

jjimm
05-30-2003, 10:27 AM
I'm an Apostrophe Nazi&reg, and even I think Buck's post was risible.

if you don't know i won't tell
05-30-2003, 10:34 AM
I agree.

UncleBeer
05-30-2003, 11:40 AM
Poor Bob. Was it a peaceful exit or did he suffer?
Hmph. I'm still here. Lousy ingrates.

Beagle
05-30-2003, 11:59 AM
Didn't some TV character say ridiculous more like reedeculouss?

I just did a Google on "Reediculous" and got 31 hits.

"Rediculous" got 59,000! After a quick survey, and a WAG, about 58,000 of those are unintentional misspellings.

Anyway, does anyone remember the TV character that always said ridiculous with the funny accent? Now it's killing me.

Kallessa
05-30-2003, 12:12 PM
It was the cousin from Perfect Strangers--I think his name was Balki.


And I'm really sorry I know this!

CanvasShoes
05-30-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Kwyjibo
I understand your point...

and


...but that could get irritating and distracting if when someone is trying to converse with others and really ads nothing to the conversation. Spelling mistakes I make are usually caused by me thinking faster than I can type and the letters get muddled. It's not because I don't know how to spell, so pointing it out isn't going to teach me anything...only annoy me.

And I agree, he was very 'high and might' and rude.

.....but you don't appear to be the type that consistantly spells simple words wrong, or constantly makes the same grammatical errors over and over. And that's not the type of person she/he meant (I think), when she/he said that it's helpful if you politely point out consistant errors.

Those kinds of errors aren't just "typing too fast," and as distracting as it is to YOU to have someone step in and say perhaps "um sorry but iyou'RE is a contraction of you and are, not YOUR which is a possessive," seeing such errors over and over again are like biting on tinfoil for some of us.

With someone who is obviously ignorant and doesn't care, it's just another sign of their ignorance.

But, imho, it's most "cringeworthy" when it's someone who is obviously intelligent, but yet sprinkles their posts with "irregardless" or "loose for lose" or something and doesn't seem to know it's wrong.

Well, for instance, look at all the math/physical science posts where the geek/nerds rant on and on about "this is so simple, it makes me just cringe that people don't get this" etc.

It's much the same for those of us that enjoy properly written english (American I guess should say).

I for one appreciate it if someone say "hey, that word is really pronounced this way" or "that word is spelled like this for its plural".

I went around for years spelling Misspelling with one S, because I'd read it in a copy of "Secretaries Handbook" as that being the correct spelling (talk about irony, hehe).

I wish someone would have told me LONG before I found out, and long after I'd been using the misspelled version.

(ps, I have a new, very touchy keyboard, so if I have more misSpellings than usual, that's why :D)

Khadaji
05-30-2003, 12:53 PM
I'm guilty I'm afraid...Not exactly the same thing, but close. Someone used "e.g." incorrectly. I tried to ignore, I swear, but it is one of my big peeves and I broke down and corrected him. But I hope I wasn't overly rude about it.

Sofa King
05-30-2003, 01:32 PM
Sure, lets just go back to the good old days (http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/D/1601-1650/massachusetts/mchart.htm).

fessie
05-30-2003, 01:57 PM
The question is what a person's trying to accomplish - is it really about "fighting ignorance" or are you just scoring points to make yourself look clever? Sometimes there's no choice but to address poor writing b/c the meaning is unclear - that happens often - but being petty just to elevate oneself makes the poster look bad, and not clever.

I can commiserate w/the grammar police, too - poor grammar and misspellings used to be one of my pet peeves (I used to fix the graffiti in the girls' bathroom). But I've chilled a bit as I've gotten older, in part because over the years I've run into soooo many successful professionals whose writing skills are subpar. Librarians, engineers, meteorologists, marketers - it's rampant.

Someone who wrote to disagree w/me on a thread I'd started and about which I felt passionately posted w/tons of errors, although the logic & message were still quite clear. I started to belittle his writing in my response, then thought better of it & just let it pass. So that when it came out in a later posting that he's from Sweden, I could just be impressed at his ability to argue in a second language (not sure I could order a cup of coffee in Sweden myself). Rather than insulting him, I gained an understanding of his views & he of mine because we continued our dialogue - if I'd ripped his writing, that wouldn't have happened.

Terminus Est
05-30-2003, 02:18 PM
I usually only correct a misspelling if it appears to have prevented the poster from doing a proper Google search.

Two birds with one stone!

porcupine
05-30-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by UncleBeer
Hmph. I'm still here. Lousy ingrates.
I thought you were called "Boib."

sugaree
05-30-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by jjimm
I'm an Apostrophe Nazi&reg

No, you are the Apostrophe Nazi. Can I be a jackbooted henchwoman?

I nitpicked some grammatical errors in a post by a white supremacist once. Somebody brought out the rolling-eyes smiles and scolded me. I was really surprised that I got negative feedback for being pissy with a white supremacist.

blowero
05-30-2003, 02:37 PM
As another high-ranking official in the Grammar Nazi Party, I still have to agree with the OP. I enjoy the BBQ Pit threads of the type: "I hate it when people do ", and I have started a few threads myself; but nitpicking people's posts over minor spelling errors is another matter. It's rude because you have singled out a [i]particular person for ridicule. Ahem - Early Out cough, cough...

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186690


Absolutely correct (though it's "nicotine," not "nicotene!").


Certainly not as rude as the OPs example, but still - was it really necessary? Was there any confusion as to what I meant? And then there's that exclamation point, as if to say "Gosh, that blowero sure is a dummy - look how he spelled it".:rolleyes: It really ruins the tone of what was otherwise a very gracious post.

belladonna
05-30-2003, 02:37 PM
Seething hate-filled bigots need love too!

belladonna
05-30-2003, 02:40 PM
dammit, that was supposed to go under sugaree's post....

grumble, grumble

Monalisa9
05-30-2003, 02:49 PM
I hate to be a pain, but...
The word "wrong" in the OP should not have been used. As "spell" is a verb, it must be defined by an adverb, so "wrong" , which is an adjective, should have been "incorrectly", an adverb. Just as you would say "He moved quickly " rather than "He moved quick".
A lot of things that used to be unacceptable are now just absorbed and have become ok, but I don't think this is one of those.

Zenster
05-30-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
Paging Zenster, Paging Zenster...

Hopefully Zenster will pull his head out of his ass for a second and read this thread.


Here's hoping.Tell you what, StupidSmartAgain.

Show even just one time where I have ever pulled such an egregious and unwarranted stunt like Buck's little shenanigan in the OP and I'll cheerfully post an open apology.

If you are unable to do so, I'd like to see you have the ostiones to come in here and apologize to me.

If you are unable to do either, you are a monster raving pencil-necked fuckwit of the Nth water.

butter pie
05-30-2003, 03:12 PM
I saw that and was hoping someone would call him out on it. I can understand picking on the OPs without punctuation or capitalization at all, and maybe if he HAD to correct her, that was one thing... the dictionary cut and paste was really in bad form, though, IMO.

I were gonna starte writting my postes bad n prootest.

Downe wit teh grammer Notzees.

Beagle
05-30-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Kallessa
It was the cousin from Perfect Strangers--I think his name was Balki.


And I'm really sorry I know this! Don't be. Now I can stop pounding my head against the wall. ;) I never actually watched that show, but I think I remember a commercial with cuts of Bronson Pinchot? saying the word over and over. It became something of a catch phrase at the time, IIRC. Or, maybe just people I knew were saying "reedekulouss."

Muad'Dib
05-30-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by JuanitaTech
Bob. His name was Bob.

I miss Bob. :(

Zenster
05-30-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
The reason that I posted that second thread is because people didn''t read beyond the OP ...

...After that point I clearly indicated that I was being satarical and people still continued to be jerks.Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
And I'm sorry of anybody miscontructed my posts as me being a jerk or trolling ...

... I apologize for all of my previous behaviour.

butter pie
05-30-2003, 03:43 PM
Awww, howe swiet.

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Monalisa9
I hate to be a pain, but...
The word "wrong" in the OP should not have been used. As "spell" is a verb, it must be defined by an adverb, so "wrong" , which is an adjective, should have been "incorrectly", an adverb. Just as you would say "He moved quickly " rather than "He moved quick".
A lot of things that used to be unacceptable are now just absorbed and have become ok, but I don't think this is one of those.

Are you trying to be funny and act just like what I pointed out in the OP? If so, ha ha- Good one! If not, go fuck yourself idiot.

iampunha
05-30-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Monalisa9
I hate to be a pain, but...

Then don't. But since you tried, I'll do my level best to clean up for you.

The word "wrong" in the OP should not have been used. As "spell" is a verb, it must be defined by an adverb, so "wrong" , which is an adjective, should have been "incorrectly", an adverb.

While this is certainly the case in formal writing, it is not utterly necessary to properly attach adverbs to verbs in some cases. When common use has shown that meaning can be retained with a verb-adjective pairing (and such, I would argue, has been shown to be the case time and time again on this MB), and the setting is an informal one (as this forum on this MB), there need be no correction.

Just as you would say "He moved quickly " rather than "He moved quick".

In short, this is not necessary in informal discource (such as here).

Oh, and by the way, if you're looking to be the source of all things proper regarding writing here, you might want to leave out the final space between the quotation mark between quickly and rather. It is egregious and unnecessary;)

A lot of things that used to be unacceptable are now just absorbed and have become ok, but I don't think this is one of those.

And you are, in point of fact, incorrect:)

I could go correcting your sigline

'Some people never go crazy, what terrible lives they must lead".

as it contains both a punctuation error and an error in quotation/apostrophe use, but that would just be pedantic and, more to the point, if people understand what you're saying and you're in an informal setting, there's no need to be proper. I have been taught how to write and speak properly so that when I am in a situation where sich is required, I am able to do so. However, I also can tell when such is *not* required (viz the number of my posts with "y'all" in them).

Do we really want to go further down this road?:)

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 05:45 PM
Yeah, that goes double for me!

Monalisa9
05-30-2003, 05:52 PM
Why is everyone being so snotty? I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I just thought that, since everyone was going on about something completely different, I would point it out. Jeez!
As far as my sig is concerned, I got it from the screenplay of Barfly, as said by Mickey Rourke portraying Charles Bukowski. I have no indication as to its authenticity, verbatim quality, etc. I just liked it. Sue me.

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 05:57 PM
Somewhere a village really IS missing it's idiot. Wow.

iampunha
05-30-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Monalisa9
Why is everyone being so snotty? I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I just thought that, since everyone was going on about something completely different, I would point it out. Jeez!

Exactly what got this thread started:)

As far as my sig is concerned, I got it from the screenplay of Barfly, as said by Mickey Rourke portraying Charles Bukowski. I have no indication as to its authenticity, verbatim quality, etc. I just liked it. Sue me.

If you are going to put yourself forward on this MB as an arbiter of grammar, punctuation, spelling etc., be prepared for someone to find something wrong with your post:D

Scotticher
05-30-2003, 06:30 PM
Quoted quite improperly because I just want to reassure my hon Zyada.....


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by JuanitaTech
Bob. His name was Bob.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now THIS is the part where Zyada piped in.

Originally posted by Zyada

Nooooooo! :(

Now THIS is the part where I reassure my friend.

[soothing voice]Not YOUR Bob, honey......YOUR Bob is a sweetheart.[/soothing voice]

Now THIS is the part where I say that I think being rude is wrong even if you think you are being funny.

Rude=Rude

Funny=Funny

Rude/not funny.

"And ner the mane shall tweet." or something like that

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Zenster
Tell you what, StupidSmartAgain.

Show even just one time where I have ever pulled such an egregious and unwarranted stunt like Buck's little shenanigan in the OP and I'll cheerfully post an open apology.

If you are unable to do so, I'd like to see you have the ostiones to come in here and apologize to me.

If you are unable to do either, you are a monster raving pencil-necked fuckwit of the Nth water.

:eek: :eek: :eek: x100

The Great Zenster apologizing?

:eek:

Anyway:

Originally posted by Zenster
This says everything. If I were a moderator, I'd have my quivering finger less than one millimeter above the "BAN NOW" button. Restrained, of course, only by the enduring notion of free speech.


Originally posted by Aslan2
Nitpick:
Only Admins can ban.



Originally posted by Zenster
What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand? Obviously, most of it.



Originally posted by Sublight

quoth Zenster:

(1) "If I were a moderator..."

(2) "What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand?"

Well, that odd mis-spelling of "administrator" in your first quote would be a good start.


Originally posted by Zenster
-----------------------------------
Originally posted by Aslan2
... Word has it a man, who could quit [QUITE] possibly be from iraq, sneezed! ...
----------------------------------

Fucking PROOFREAD your posts, ASSHOLE!
Gotta love these illiterate and idiotic morons!




Orginially posted by Zenster
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Sublight
quoth Zenster:

(1) "If I were a moderator..."

(2) "What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand?"

Well, that odd mis-spelling of "administrator" in your first quote would be a good start.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Get stuffed. Please pay attention to the issues at hand. You are being an asshole, I am doing my best not to be much more of one than yourself.


Both by Zenster

Have you bothered to check in at the GD Original Sin debate? I didn't think so. In fact, I don't see where you are making any sort of significant contribution to these boards. I welcome your efforts to prove me wrong. Show me a +1,000 reply thread you have started lately and I'll cheerfully apologize.

------------------------------
[right below above post]
Yes, you ... Asslan2.

All from here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174405&highlight=Brutus)

Please write my apology rite now k thnx bye

ps.
Reading threads like that is fun, especially when you try and pull that "I'm a saint" shit on people. We have a search buton at the top, and at the bottom of your posts, too.

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 07:31 PM
Also, saying things like


I didn't think so. In fact, I don't see where you are making any sort of significant contribution to these boards. I welcome your efforts to prove me wrong. .


is a pretty fucked up thing to say to anybody.

You can look at anything and subjectively say "that's not a significant contribution" to anything and everything, whether it's "valid" or not.


Show me a +1,000 reply thread you have started lately and I'll cheerfully apologize

By your logic, Fingolfin(and no offense meant to Fingolfin) and John John are one of the two greatest posters in GD and CS history because they both have 1 000 + post counts. John John being a known troll and also a banned user.

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 07:32 PM
Oops, that's "threads with a thousand posts".

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 07:38 PM
Also, that originial sin gd thread you apparently started? Not even on the first(or second page) of threads with the highest replies. Yet the first highest is 1440, and the lowest on the first page is 300.

You are apparently a liar to boot.

(and now, I do realize that John John's thread is only 500 replies long. I apologize for that mistake.

Scotticher
05-30-2003, 07:51 PM
Um, hon....I think this isn't the thread to bring some of that stuff up in. In which to bring some of this stuff up? Dangling stuff all over the place, sorry. But at LEAST I spelled it right. I think. Anyway, most of that is a seperate issue, and I think we ought to stick to the OP, okay?

BOTH of you. Please?

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 07:55 PM
It's a thread about correcting mispellings. Zenster is incredibly arrogant about mispellings.

Thus, I pit him.

Khadaji
05-30-2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
It's a thread about correcting mispellings. Zenster is incredibly arrogant about mispellings.

Thus, I pit him. Well...

We have learned from CanvasShoes that the word is actually MisSpelling... hmmmm:D

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 08:54 PM
Yeah, shut the fuck up- this thread is all about ME and MY gripe! Take it outside, fer Chrissakes!

StupidSmartAgain
05-30-2003, 08:55 PM
I'm very sorry Zette.


So very sorry that you suck!

:D

BoBettie
05-30-2003, 09:02 PM
and that's a bad thing because.......?

lezlers
05-30-2003, 09:09 PM
The only time I went out of my way to correct someone's spelling was IRL, actually.

I found a bunch of "erotic" letters that my bf at the time had written to his X girlfriend while we were together.

His grammer was really atrocious. So I busted out my trusty red pen, made a bunch of corrections and left them on his windshield.

Ah, good times.

But I would never dream of doing it on this board. That's just tacky. ;)

xcheopis
05-30-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
So very sorry that you suck!
And this is bad... why?

ManDuh003
05-30-2003, 10:07 PM
I can't stand the spelling police who point out which to two too you need in a certain situation. I had a rant which i posted while still in a horrible mood and someone went through and corrected EVERYTHING! That was enough to make my already bad mood into a worse mood!

Early Out
05-30-2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by blowero
As another high-ranking official in the Grammar Nazi Party, I still have to agree with the OP. I enjoy the BBQ Pit threads of the type: "I hate it when people do ", and I have started a few threads myself; but nitpicking people's posts over minor spelling errors is another matter. It's rude because you have singled out a [i]particular person for ridicule. Ahem - Early Out cough, cough...

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186690



Certainly not as rude as the OPs example, but still - was it really necessary? Was there any confusion as to what I meant? And then there's that exclamation point, as if to say "Gosh, that blowero sure is a dummy - look how he spelled it".:rolleyes: It really ruins the tone of what was otherwise a very gracious post.
I think what got me in that case, blowero, was that the word was spelled correctly in the thread title.

We are, after all, committed to combatting ignorance, though I agree that there's certainly no reason to beat it to death with a blunt instrument. (Insert obligatory sly remark about my intellect being a blunt instrument here.)

yosemite
05-31-2003, 01:05 AM
I remember a few years ago (yes, I go back that far) an esteemed doper (who is a honestly a real sweetie pie so I won't give his/her name) corrected my spelling in a post. This person said, "Uh, yosemitebabe, you misspelled that word. It's not "subtle", it's "suttle". (And they were serious.)

I thought that was funny. ;)

iampunha
05-31-2003, 01:38 AM
Except for the sweetie pie bit and the "suttle, not subtle" bit, yosemite babe, I was thinking "okay, now she's gonna talk about me";)


On account of I used to be that person who'd go into a thread and be all like "OH! YOU MISSPELLED A WORD! I'M GONNA TELLLLLL!"

blowero
05-31-2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Early Out
I think what got me in that case, blowero, was that the word was spelled correctly in the thread title.

Is saying that supposed to help? Because the only feeling I get from it is "Gee, blowero is doubly stupid because the word was right there in the thread title". An apology would have been nice, but I guess all you can muster is more insults.:rolleyes:

Kegg
05-31-2003, 06:12 AM
Am I the only one here that admits I can't spell worth a damm!!!!

Early Out
05-31-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by blowero
Is saying that supposed to help? Because the only feeling I get from it is "Gee, blowero is doubly stupid because the word was right there in the thread title". An apology would have been nice, but I guess all you can muster is more insults.:rolleyes:
I'm sorry, blowero; I had no idea you were actually insulted by my correction. In fact, in that very thread, we had a little fun with it, several posts down (I particularly liked your last response: "And everybody quite makeing fun of my speling." Very classy! :D).

Actually, poor spelling usually isn't a sign of stupidity. I've known any number of very intelligent people who could look at a word correctly spelled dozens of times, then turn right around and spell it wrong (it happens in threads here all the time). I've always found that puzzling. I'm not a great speller, but I usually know when something just looks wrong, and I'll check it.

Somewhere out there, there's an obscure research paper that explains why, for some folks, the correct spelling never lodges in their neural net, even after repeated exposures.

Again, blowero, I certainly meant no offense, nor to imply that you were somehow stupid. Come home! All is forgiven!

Kwyjibo
05-31-2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by CanvasShoes
.....but you don't appear to be the type that consistantly spells simple words wrong, or constantly makes the same grammatical errors over and over. And that's not the type of person she/he meant (I think), when she/he said that it's helpful if you politely point out consistant errors. Honestly? Ask anyone here who knows me. I am known for screwing up my words...

It's worse when I am in chat.

It is very embarrassing. You type what you want to say, and your fingers get it all mucked up.

(Being dyslexic doesn't help either.)

BoBettie
05-31-2003, 09:08 AM
Yeah, the entire point of my thread is:

If you know the meaning of the word, assume that the person made a simple mistake. Lack of caffeine, fingers too fast- whatever. Don't take the time to post NOTHING ELSE to the thread and just point out their spelling error. That's fucking obnoxious. In fact, I can think of few cases where it ISN'T obnoxious. We're here to fight ignorance, not grade papers. Get real.

A few months ago a posted said something like "When I read these posts I just love to get out my red Sharpie and start correcting." to which I replied that he should shove his Sharpie up his ass. It's insulting to have a simple mistake pointed out and corrected in front of a huge group of people. If you don't think that's true, you're probably the kind of person who would do just that. Don't. It's rude and condescending.

Particularly when you don't even post about the original thread topic and just do a drive-by spelling correction (this time complete with dictionary definition, as if the spelling error were so egregious that they couldn't make out what the meaning was). That's just being a fucking prick, IMHO.

BoBettie
05-31-2003, 09:10 AM
oops- I'd better fix that. I meant to write "a poster" and accidently typed "a posted". Thank God I caught it or the whole meaning would have been different and no one would have known what I meant.

ParentalAdvisory
05-31-2003, 09:41 AM
The Grammar Police (TGP), just a bunch of whiny bitches.

blowero
06-01-2003, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by Early Out
I'm sorry, blowero; I had no idea you were actually insulted by my correction.

Actually, I was kind of annoyed. I was just trying not to be too uptight about it in the thread.

I'm not a great speller, but I usually know when something just looks wrong, and I'll check it.

I actually check spelling all the time, but I stop short of copying the post into another program to spell check it, because it's a little taxing for the primitive computer I'm using. So once in awhile, something gets by me. That's why it bugged me when you corrected the spelling of the one word; it's not like my post was riddled with errors or anything.

Again, blowero, I certainly meant no offense, nor to imply that you were somehow stupid. Come home! All is forgiven!
Very gracious of you. I accept your apology.

Zenster
06-01-2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
... Hopefully Zenster will pull his head out of his ass for a second and read this thread.


Here's hoping.Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

And this jerkoff asshole has the nerve to wonder why he's so miserable here.

7 up yours
06-01-2003, 12:47 PM
Butt dont u haet it wen poeple spel tings rong?

StupidSmartAgain
06-01-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Zenster
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

And this jerkoff asshole has the nerve to wonder why he's so miserable here.
Still waiting for a response to my posting of you acting like the grand jackass over a mistake.
Tick tock, motherfucker...

Zenster
06-01-2003, 03:26 PM
Hey, SSA, you miserable little asswipe, you have yet to show where I have ever posted such an egregious (do you even know the definition of that word?) example of something that even remotely resembles Buck's dictionary based spelling correction. This was requisite for any apology of mine to be issued. Until you do so, you are the one who is in arrears in the apology department.

PS: Have you noticed the complete lack of defenders in your MPSIMS thread, you pathetic moderator-leg-humping whiner? Now be a good little needle dicked fucknugget and go pound hot sand up your ass.

Q.E.D.
06-01-2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
quote:

Originally posted by Zenster
This says everything. If I were a moderator, I'd have my quivering finger less than one millimeter above the "BAN NOW" button. Restrained, of course, only by the enduring notion of free speech.
[quote]

Zenster's first post in that thread. No snarkiness here

[quote]Originally posted by Aslan2
Nitpick:
Only Admins can ban.


A nitpick. Fine so far.

Originally posted by Zenster
What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand? Obviously, most of it.


Zenster defends his remark, sopemwhat snarkily, and perhaps deservedly so.


Originally posted by Sublight

quoth Zenster:

(1) "If I were a moderator..."

(2) "What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand?"

Well, that odd mis-spelling of "administrator" in your first quote would be a good start.


Another snarky and uncalled-for (IMHO) nitpick. Clearly the intent of Zenster's original post was clear enough.


Originally posted by Zenster
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Originally posted by Aslan2
... Word has it a man, who could quit [QUITE] possibly be from iraq, sneezed! ...
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Fucking PROOFREAD your posts, ASSHOLE!
Gotta love these illiterate and idiotic morons!


Zenster returns fire nitpicking someone who nitpicked him first. Fire with fire, eye for an eye kind of stuff


Orginially posted by Zenster
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Originally posted by Sublight
quoth Zenster:

(1) "If I were a moderator..."

(2) "What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand?"

Well, that odd mis-spelling of "administrator" in your first quote would be a good start.
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Get stuffed. Please pay attention to the issues at hand. You are being an asshole, I am doing my best not to be much more of one than yourself.


Does the same with the second nitpick sniper. Clearly he is cross because his point is being obliterated and overlooked by snarky, and pointless nitpicks.

Both by Zenster

Have you bothered to check in at the GD Original Sin debate? I didn't think so. In fact, I don't see where you are making any sort of significant contribution to these boards. I welcome your efforts to prove me wrong. Show me a +1,000 reply thread you have started lately and I'll cheerfully apologize.

------------------------------
[right below above post]
Yes, you ... Asslan2.


Zenster lashes out angrily at the nitpickers, and arguably, rightly so.

All from here

Please write my apology rite now k thnx bye

No apology for you, Zenster asked you to privide a cite for him acting in a like maner to the individual mentioned in the OP in this thread. Zenster did not start the argument. He did not chim in to a thread soley to correct a point of spelling or grammar, and he acted only to defend himself.

ps.
Reading threads like that is fun, especially when you try and pull that "I'm a saint" shit on people. We have a search buton at the top, and at the bottom of your posts, too.

Get bent.

Zenster
06-01-2003, 03:53 PM
Thanks, Q.E.D.. You're a Prince.

StupidSmartAgain
06-01-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Zenster


PS: Have you noticed the complete lack of defenders in your MPSIMS thread, you pathetic moderator-leg-humping whiner? Now be a good little needle dicked fucknugget and go pound hot sand up your ass.
Har har, good one jackass. Go read the thread again.


And Q.E.D., you didn't bother rebutting any of my other points, such as Zenster accusing Aslan of not posting anything worthwhile, or Zenster falsely saying that he created a 1000 post thread in GD, then mocking him for not creating a 1000 post thread.

You're a real winner their, Zenster.

StupidSmartAgain
06-01-2003, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Zenster
Thanks, Q.E.D.. You're a Prince.
And you're still a jackass.


Also, Zenster, I'd be able to post a lot of your posts where you put corrections such as , or other such corrections, into the originial posts, but that would be near impossible to search for.

Q.E.D.
06-01-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
And Q.E.D., you didn't bother rebutting any of my other points, such as Zenster accusing Aslan of not posting anything worthwhile, or Zenster falsely saying that he created a 1000 post thread in GD, then mocking him for not creating a 1000 post thread. I didn't see any need to, as any further remarks had no bearing on whether or not Zenster had acted in a similarly egregious manner as the person mentioned in the OP of this thread. And he has not. Were those cpomments you just mentioned uncalled for? IMO, yes, but the were made defensively, after being nitipicked for no good purpose. Now, just let it go, for chrissakes.

Miller
06-01-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
You're a real winner their, Zenster.

Must... resist... urge... to... nitpick...

Q.E.D.
06-01-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by StupidSmartAgain
Har har, good one jackass. Go read the thread again. I don't know if he did yet, but I did. And.....?

StupidSmartAgain
06-01-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
I don't know if he did yet, but I did. And.....? And he claimed that nobody is defending me. Which I find really funny, because that's not true.

Q.E.D.
06-01-2003, 04:29 PM
You show me one post where someone is defending you completely. And I don't mean a post like "You could be a good poster, but...."

StupidSmartAgain
06-01-2003, 04:36 PM
"Nice quote there SSA. I think I did used to be like you when I first started here, the point I am making is that people told me to shut up, people (rightly) gave me shit, and eventually I did what they said and became part of this excelent community."
Lobsang.

iampunha
06-01-2003, 04:44 PM
That's not a compliment, SSA, unless you think "I used to have a pair of pants like that. Then my dad got a job." is a compliment.

Q.E.D.
06-01-2003, 04:46 PM
That is not a defense. At best it's a mildly positive remark with some (excellent) advice.

imthjckaz
06-01-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by JuanitaTech
Bob. His name was Bob.
Well, I was thinking of changing my username to imthbob,
but I don't know about that now.

Bob's can't catch a break.

~sigh~

PhiloVance
06-01-2003, 08:49 PM
Wow, this one fell off the cart.:eek:

djf750
06-01-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by if you don't know i won't tell
Course. I'm not saying one should go around and correct every error one sees. But I <will>, nicely, and sweetly, correct someone if they repeatedly mispell a word. I consider it a positive thing, not a negative, and haven't had much problem with people's responses. If I actually notice someone repeatedly mispelling something, it's a rather awful mispelling. Most I pay no attention to, as there is no point, and chances are, the person does know the correct way, and just wasn't paying attention. Like I said, in this instance, it was done rudely and was unnecessary. And on message boards such as this one, a post correcting someone is a bit silly. However. If a person makes a mistake, they don't know it's a mistake until someone tells them it is, and how to correct it. Hence spelling and grammar corrections.

Let me re-iterate: He was rude.

Please tell me that this post was a joke by a very clever satirist.

djf750
06-01-2003, 10:13 PM
I typed this in Microsoft Works which comes free with most conmputers. (when I typed that word back there (computer) it put a red line under it telling me I misspelled it and I could have gone back and taken that extra letter out.

And miller, I typed all this and it CAPITALIZED it for me automatically!

Now I copy, then I paste it into the SDMB post reply window and voila!

Perfection.

Unless I put some commas in the wrong place.

Maybe we should all just try to get the meaning of the post and only if a post is COMPLETELY unclear because of spelling and/or grammar errors (or, shudder, LACK OF CAPITALIZATION), should we criticize.

Although, these threads do for some reason turn into some damn good reading.

lezlers
06-01-2003, 11:19 PM
Well, that whole spellcheck thing would work except for words that aren't misspelled, but used incorrectly (such as their, there, to, too).

Not that I care. Just thought I'd mention it.

Nitpickers have a very special place in hell. If you get the gist of what someone is trying to say, just go with it, fer cryin' out loud.

djf750
06-02-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by lezlers
Well, that whole spellcheck thing would work except for words that aren't misspelled, but used incorrectly (such as their, there, to, too).

Not that I care. Just thought I'd mention it.

Nitpickers have a very special place in hell. If you get the gist of what someone is trying to say, just go with it, fer cryin' out loud.

"grow the fuck up and learn how to communicate effectively."

but this is what you told me a week ago when i defended a guy who did not capitalize, even though everyone understood the gist of his post.

Zenster
06-02-2003, 12:39 AM
Zette, first off I'd like to apologize for any unnecessary highjacking of your thread. Second, I really appreciate your patience in letting me dealing with this as I saw fit without you kicking up any ruckus.

Third: Thanks Q.E.D. and everyone else who took the time to wise up that little tripe volcano. If you ever catch me pulling a Buck style drive-by like in the OP, you have my permission to flame me to the oort cloud and back. I'll not make a single peep.

Teelo
06-02-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Qazzz
...arrogant things like "Rant on, my dear," in an effort to establish some sort of superiority.

Happens...so...much...here...

::Brain Explodes::

Zenster
06-02-2003, 12:51 AM
djf750, people who do not capitalize are one step away from the sort who type:

lyk kule dudz, whuts r planz for 2nite?

I'm not going to take sides in your particular grouse, but incorrigible small case typers really should be drawn and quartered after being tortured, shot and hung.

The only thing worse are those who type :

aLriGht fOLkz eYm 2 f1Ne 4 u.

They should just be tortured repeatedly to the brink of death and then barely revived medically for another endless round of same.

Sublight
06-02-2003, 12:59 AM
So I do a vanity search and find my name mentioned here twice. Oh well, why not?

originally posted by Q.E.D

Originally posted by Aslan2
Nitpick:
Only Admins can ban.


A nitpick. Fine so far.

:Originally posted by Zenster
What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand? Obviously, most of it.


Zenster defends his remark, sopemwhat snarkily, and perhaps deservedly so.
Ok, I didn't (and still don't) see this the same way you do. I read Zenster's reply as stressing the 'If' (and, going back to view the original thread, I see that the 'if' was in fact boldfaced), as though he thought the point of Aslan2's remark was to nitpick that Zenster was not, in fact, an admin. Zenster's reply was therefore stressing the fact that he had spoken hypothetically. Basically, it appeared to me that he was taking offence because of a mistaken interpretation on his part. It was then that I made my post:

Q.E.D.

Originally posted by Sublight

quoth Zenster:

(1) "If I were a moderator..."

(2) "What part of "If I were an administrator ..." do you not understand?"

Well, that odd mis-spelling of "administrator" in your first quote would be a good start.


Another snarky and uncalled-for (IMHO) nitpick. Clearly the intent of Zenster's original post was clear enough.

"Snarky" usually implies some measure of mean-spiritedness, doesn't it? If so, then no, it wasn't posted with snarky intent. This is a written medium, however, so of course it's easy for intent to be obscured. The anger of his response came as somewhat of a surprise. As for it being called for, see my comment at the end of this post. It was called for as Zenster's original post.
Q.E.D
Clearly he is cross because his point is being obliterated and overlooked by snarky, and pointless nitpicks.

...

Zenster lashes out angrily at the nitpickers, and arguably, rightly so.



Very arguably, IMO. In any case, the point of his original post (the one being obliterated and overlooked) was a one-and-a-half line rant about how much he wanted to ban another member. It's not as though he laid out a workable Mideast peace plan while simultaneously explaining the wave/particle duality of light, and our only response was to point out his mistaken use of a semicolon. These were trite responses to a trite post.

iampunha
06-02-2003, 01:07 AM
FWIW, Zenster, it would be ridiculously easy to clear all this up and put it to bed already by admitting you were wrong about who does the bulk of the banning on this here board;)

Zenster
06-02-2003, 01:52 AM
Okay, all right, I CONFESS, it's Manhattan!

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU BRUTE? [sob]

Although, right now I'm deeply indebted to Eutychus for making the boards safe to inhabit once again.

Props to Cajun Man as well for the forum shift of a thread whose title and author shall remain nameless.

PS: iampunha, it was good to have you around for this particular little imbroglio.

iampunha
06-02-2003, 01:54 AM
Zen, thanks for the kind words. But how could a Grammar Nazi TM like me pass it up?:D

Shakes
06-02-2003, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by Qazzz
Yeah, I think the spelling / grammar / thread police are all bitter people who know they can't contribute with something intellectually substantial, so instead they grade others' posts like a second grade teacher. And then they say foolishly arrogant things like "Rant on, my dear," in an effort to establish some sort of superiority. And it's frustrating not because it works, but because you just know they don't realize that it's not working; they are oblivious to the fact that they're pathetic and boring.

HOLY CRAP! Are you my clone?

Actually I must be your clone becuase you put it way better than I could have. :D

Qazzz
06-02-2003, 08:28 AM
Hey, do you wanna go out, Shakes? Are you hot? Wealthy?

BoBettie
06-02-2003, 04:39 PM
Zette, first off I'd like to apologize for any unnecessary highjacking of your thread. Second, I really appreciate your patience in letting me dealing with this as I saw fit without you kicking up any ruckus.

eh, normally I'd be kicking up all sorts of rucas over something or other, but my allergies have me down for the count. Now I sound like a Claritin ad.

"Want to kick up some shit on a message board but those darned allergies are just kicking your ass and making your head all foggy?? Try Claritin! Ask YOUR doctor if Claritin is right for YOU!"

::sniffle:: ::snuff::
Hey everybody, just stop acting like know it all assholes, that's all I'm asking.

Zenster
06-02-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Zette
... Hey everybody, just stop acting like know it all assholes, that's all I'm asking.Yeah, try and remember that people who act like they know everything really piss off those of us who do.

Qazzz
06-03-2003, 05:58 AM
*sigh*

I repeat: "And then they say foolishly arrogant things like "Rant on, my dear," in an effort to establish some sort of superiority. And it's frustrating not because it works, but because you just know they don't realize that it's not working; they are oblivious to the fact that they're pathetic and boring."

Aslan of Narnia
06-04-2003, 05:15 PM
My point was to inform someone that mods can not ban. Which is true for most forums, but at this one mods usually only ban spammers.

Also, Zenster where is that GD thread? I'm curious...

Q.E.D.
06-04-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Aslan2
My point was to inform someone that mods can not ban. Which is true for most forums, but at this one mods usually only ban spammers. See? You made the same mistake and not two seconds after you stated it correctly. ;)



Italics mine

if you don't know i won't tell
06-04-2003, 05:28 PM
From awhile ago- yes it was.

(Last post was only 15 minutes ago... reconfirm... last post 15 minutes ago... not bumping forward ridiculously? Yes. Now press Submit.)

Aslan of Narnia
06-07-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
See? You made the same mistake and not two seconds after you stated it correctly. ;)





Yeah. I was half asleep then.


And Zenster, about that OS thread, WHERE IS IT?

:D

Zenster
06-07-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Aslan2
... And Zenster, about that OS thread, WHERE IS IT?

:DI gotcher thread right here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172646). Feel free to revive it so long as you're not going to whinge about spelling issues. I have a last salvo for McDuff that my trigger finger is itching to fire off.

iampunha
06-07-2003, 01:48 PM
Why, got a problem with that whole "not of woman borne" thing?

Who knew that'd be your foil?:D

iampunha
06-07-2003, 01:49 PM
Delicious irony there if anyone wants to point it out. I sure as hell will not:)

Aslan of Narnia
06-07-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Zenster
I gotcher thread right here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172646). Feel free to revive it so long as you're not going to whinge about spelling issues. I have a last salvo for McDuff that my trigger finger is itching to fire off.
I find it ironic tht you think I'd be the one deservant of attack. Seeing as you stressed how you were so important because you started a thread that has over 1000 replies. Bullshit, it wasn't even close to it. And rather than correct it, you ignored it and continued on your merry way. Wait, lets count every thread that has over 100 posts. Wow, look at all those Very Important People. :rolleyes: AND I'M ONE OF THEM!