Jewish smiley can be erroneously created

[tracer]

Look what happens when I type the following character combinations: A < followed by a j : <j
A > followed by a j : >jIn neither of those cases did I type a semicolon before the j. Perhaps the < and > are getting converted into their HTML character entity equivalents (&lt; and &gt; , respectively), both of which end in a semicolon, and then the text is being scanned for smiley strings.

[Q.E.D.]

Doing a View Source confirms your suspicion:
Look what happens when I type the following character combinations:<ul><li>A &lt; followed by a j

[tracer]

Not only that, but feast your eyes on what comes next:
<ul><li>A &lt; followed by a j : &amp;lt<img src="images/smilies/happyyid.gif" border="0" alt="">
And, as an aside, for some reason Internet Explorer renders a & followed by an lt without a semicolon as a < .

[Mac Guffin]

<j
>j

Huh.

[Achernar]

Here's what I get when I put a less-than followed by a right-paren:

<)

It puts a space in between. Isn't that weird? Here's a clumsy way to get around the HOJM bug:

<j

[tracer]

Achernar: How did you do that second example?

[Q.E.D.]

Hit the Quote button under his post and you'll see the coding he used.

[Ice Wolf]

This isn't restricted to just the ;j smiley, of course. Why not just disable smilies when you post?

[Achernar]

What if you need a different smiley in the same post?

[Ice Wolf]

Originally posted by Achernar
What if you need a different smiley in the same post?

Then something like your fix-it would have to be used. Or just put a space between, and call it a hamster whoopsie. :)

My apologies. It's just that, seeing as the combo was a greater-than/less-than symbol and a "j", I presumed it was being used for erudite stuff not normally associated with the smilie.

I'll back out, now. I know when I'm outta my depth. :)

[tracer]

Originally posted by Ice Wolf
This isn't restricted to just the ;j smiley, of course.
Actually, it is.

The problem here is the "hidden semicolon" that gets created when you plop down a < or > sign. The only two smilies that start with a semicolon are ;j and ;) -- and accidental ;) 's are already taken are of by that automatic space that Achernar discovered gets inserted between a < and a ).

[Ice Wolf]

I beg to disagree. I've seen accidental instances, for example, of the :p and :o cropping up, where the colon combo gets tangled up in the text. That is what I meant. There are instances, aside from your example, where somehow the program always interprets certain combinations as the formula for a smilie, even when part of a string of characters.

[Achernar]

That's true, but at least people know that the colon is there before they submit.

(And sorry, I didn't mean to sound confrontational before. Your solution is best when you don't need any other smileys.)

[Ice Wolf]

Originally posted by Achernar
That's true, but at least people know that the colon is there before they submit.

Agreed. It's still a bit of a nuisance, though.



(And sorry, I didn't mean to sound confrontational before. Your solution is best when you don't need any other smileys.)

Nah, Achernar, not at all, mate. Absolutely no worries there. I'm probably sounding like someone with ruffled fur in this thread. My apologies to all if that's how I came across -- either too much caffiene, or not enough when I post early in the morning! :)

Hope a solution can be found for the ;j smilie problem, though. Unlike the others, it's a complicated one to fix, by looks.

(Y'know, I never thought I'd ever get a chance to use the ;j smilie around here. I know I haven't been helpful, but -- thanks! :))

[Chronos]

I've got to test that less than- parenthesis thing here...
Bra wane: <)
Bra wax: <(
Ket wane: >)
Ket wax: >(
And wane: &)
And wax: &(
Hard space wane: .&nbsp;)
Hard space wax: .&nbsp;(

[Chronos]

OK, so it only triggers with ending parentheses (I presume that winking frowns aren't too common). Ampersands don't trigger a space or a smiley, even though they should be converted to escape sequences, and hard spaces result in a smiley (if applicable).

Does the insert-a-space duct taping apply if smileys are disabled? Let's see:

Bra wane: <)
Bra wax: <(
Ket wane: >)
Ket wax: >(
And wane: &)
And wax: &(
Hard space wane: .&nbsp;)
Hard space wax: .&nbsp;(

[PhiloVance]

:) :( :o ;) :p :cool: :rolleyes: :mad: :eek: ;j :wally :smack: :dubious:

Yep, works for me.