Rush Limbaugh IS a big, fat liar!*

[moriah]

And the winner for this year's Hubie** goes to... "I am addicted to painkillers" (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20031011/us_nm/people_limbaugh_dc_13) Limbaugh


*I'm sorry, I really shouldn't be saying that he's a big, fat liar.

He's not fat.

Anymore.

**Last year's Hubris Award (http://www.onelook.com/?w=hubris&ls=a) went to the moralist, Bill Bennett.

[Q.E.D.]

Originally posted by moriah
He's not fat. Au contraire. He's a Big Fat Idiot (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0440508649/104-5133574-0747133?v=glance).

[moriah]

Originally posted by Q.E.D.
Au contraire. He's a Big Fat Idiot (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0440508649/104-5133574-0747133?v=glance). Argh. That'll teach me to be insultory so late at night.

Well, it'll only be a matter of time before O'Reilly gets his Hubie. I'll get to use the 'liar' appellation appropriately at that time.

[iampunha]

YAY! ANOTHER RUSH LIMBAUGH THREAD!

Now spam—er, send this to fifteen of your closest friends and a secret program will execute once you do. And if you don't send it to at least five people you'll have bad luck for five years and nobody will ask you out!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[county]

Well, my understanding of those substance abuse program is that they detox you and then you move into a 12 step program for maintenance.

The thing about the addiction programs is that the individual is suppose to get honest and stay honest (about themselves). A lifestyle/program of honesty is a lot of the foundation for remaining drug/alcohol free.

I certainly don't wish addiction, or relapse on anyone; but I would say that Limbaugh's chances are less than average.

[Squink]

I would say that Limbaugh's chances are less than average. It's not his fault. He seems to have been born that way.

[Qadgop the Mercotan]

Originally posted by Squink
It's not his fault. He seems to have been born that way.
You mean you think he's naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty?

[MsRobyn]

Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan
You mean you think he's naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty?

There are such unfortunates. ;)

Robin

[Beagle]

Well, he admitted it and checked into rehab. I'd be quite the hypocrite -- like Rush -- if I were now to criticize him for his actions. That's one issue right-wingers and I never see eye-to-eye on: to wit, using the criminal justice system to solve a public health problem. I'm against it. It's a real moneymaker for lawyers, so my self-interest is to keep the present system.

Cops make big money off the present system through the seizure laws. Special police tactical units would have so much less to do if the system focused on treatment instead of making money and kicking in doors. Ho-hum.

[Ben Hicks]

And just to add a little extra zest to the torrent of acidic bile shooting up the gullets of honest loathers of rank hypocrisy everywhere, here are two choice quotations from this decent, all-American, espouser of family values:


"By legalizing drugs, all you're going to do is define further deviancy downward. We have a duty to pass on values to our descendants, values that will maintain the standards of behavior and ensure the survivability of the American way of life. And drugs are no different. You end up destroying more than yourself."
-- Rush Limbaugh Playboy interview, December 1993


Hmm, strong stuff from Rush "There's nothing good about drug use," Limbaugh. But wait, this little wingnut hasn't finished yet. There's more:


It [drug use] destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."


So, hopefully this (by his own diagnosis) once upstanding American turned depraved dope fiend hooked on obscene quantities of OxyContin (otherwise known as hillbilly heroin) will be enjoying years of nice long showers behind bars for the good of the rest of us. Thank God he was unmasked now rather than ten years down the line when he'd destroyed society :rolleyes:

[Qadgop the Mercotan]

Originally posted by MsRobyn
There are such unfortunates. ;)

Robin
There chances are less than average. :D

[toque]

My schadenfreude-o-meter is going off the fucking charts on this one.

He never hesitated to cast the first stone.

Maybe he can grab a few minutes to think while he shits himself and imagines third-degree burns all over his body. Withdrawal's a bitch, motherfucker, and so is karma.

[county]

[. Withdrawal's a bitch, motherfucker, and so is karma. [/B][/QUOTE]

Nah, he will be given methadone and probably some other stuff to ease him off of the shit he's been taking.

What gets me is that statement of his that was so full of political spin - him talking about being totally responsible and accepting that responsibility himself.

This guy has been thru treatment (twice) and doesn't seem to realize that his life is totally unmanageable.

[Beagle]

So, hopefully this (by his own diagnosis) once upstanding American turned depraved dope fiend hooked on obscene quantities of OxyContin (otherwise known as hillbilly heroin) will be enjoying years of nice long showers behind bars for the good of the rest of us. Thank God he was unmasked now rather than ten years down the line when he'd destroyed society. :rolleyes: Yeah. He was in a LOT of pain. :rolleyes: My back hurts sometimes. Ibuprofin or acetometaphin are two options before you jump to oxycontin.

[11811]

Originally posted by Beagle
Yeah. He was in a LOT of pain. :rolleyes: My back hurts sometimes. Ibuprofin or acetometaphin are two options before you jump to oxycontin.

Well you're just dealing with physical pain. Rush was dealing with the pain of being a truth-speaking prophet in these modern times.:rolleyes:

I wish him the best in rehab, but I hope he loses his show and gets stuck with some tiny pissant job when he gets out.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Originally posted by 11811
...but I hope he loses his show and gets stuck with some tiny pissant job when he gets out.


Nah. There's got to be some idiot network who'll hire him.

ESPN did.

[Sofa King]

Well... how do you like this?

Rapid Hearing Loss Observed With Overuse Of Vicodin (http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/f98fa.htm)

Didya hear that, Rush?

[5 time champ]

Coming up in next week's edition of the Limbaugh Letter: The Best Places to score hillbilly heroin in your neighborhood. Register today!

[Apos]

Limbaugh's quotes are vapid (I mean, yes drugs ruin familes and individuals, and yes we have laws, but no, that doesn't follow that decriminalization is bad), but they are pretty far from extremist. And his own experience confirms the idea that drugs are a serious problem. So I don't quite see where the hypocrisy or lying comes in. Sure, rich people get to have their drugs and go to expensive rehab while poor people go to the lockup, and that's pretty unequal. But that's about as far as you can take this.

Bottom line: a guy has a drug addiction, and that's always too bad. Also, you may hate his guts, but that's neither here nor there.

[EddyTeddyFreddy]

Rush says: Drug users are evil and should go to jail.

Rush does: Drugs.

Does Rush go to jail? No, he goes to rehab -- three times, now. Does he consider himself a criminal? No, he's a poor sufferer.

Sure looks/smells like hypocrisy to me.

[Shirley Ujest]

Special treatment for celebrities. Ain't it nice?

[Sofa King]

Rush apparently lives in the same generel hood as does my mother, a sociopathic drug counselor whom I stongly suspect would be entirely willing to tailor a person's rehabilitation scedule to be perfectly in tune with his level of income. Virtually anyone will tell you thirty days is just the tip of the iceberg for an opiate addiction.

She ain't the only one out there. Rush may be off the waves for awhile, particularly if he somehow manages to fall under the same law enforcement system to which the rest of Florida is subject.

The key thing to watch is how the guy uses his money and political connections to weasel out of his potential trouble, justify it in terms of public service, and then ditch that commitment. Rush will quickly discover that the key to feeding the monkey is to dabble in harder, more dangerous drugs. That's because as a result of the drug war which the policies of the people he has unfailingly championed for a decade and a half (but strangely enough, not the policies themselves (http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Rush_Limbaugh_Drugs.htm)), he will be able to obtain far stronger and more effective drugs for his supposed back problem for a far cheaper price than his current addiction allows.

I'm calling it now: Rush gets photographed in the same car with Robert Downey, Jr. within the next five years.

[Miller]

Sofa King, did you just call your mother a sociopath? :confused:

[Cervaise]

I don't get why everybody's calling Rush a hypocrite. He's never suggested that rehabilitation and forgiveness should not be available to rich white men.

[Liberal]

On what occasion did he say that it shouldn't be available to poor men of color?

[Revtim]

I wonder, did he make his 'drug users should go to jail' statements before or after his previous rehab incidents?

[Beagle]

Rush's guts clench as he tries for the 150th time to vomit up the nonexistent 'substance' that is making him sick.

The nurse looks into his glassy eyes and tortured expression, "Are you OK, Rush?"

"I'm.... *BWAAA* *UNGH* taking personal responsibility..."

He still doesn't get that he's done for as a "normal" person, does he? Every trip to the dentist from here on out will be a negotiation with his inner demons, and the dentist.

[county]

Originally posted by Beagle
Rush's guts clench as he tries for the 150th time to vomit up the nonexistent 'substance' that is making him sick.

The nurse looks into his glassy eyes and tortured expression, "Are you OK, Rush?"

"I'm.... *BWAAA* *UNGH* taking personal responsibility..."

He still doesn't get that he's done for as a "normal" person, does he? Every trip to the dentist from here on out will be a negotiation with his inner demons, and the dentist.


Rush, done for as a "normal" person??? you gotta be kidding.

[belladonna]

Limbaugh, 52, said he would check himself into a drug treatment center for the next 30 days immediately following his broadcast "to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me."
I like how the unwashed masses are demonized as users, abusers, and pushers of "DRUGS!", but poor little Rush is merely under the hold of a "medication". Hmmmm.

[Beagle]

Originally posted by county
Rush, done for as a "normal" person??? you gotta be kidding. Well, yes, I was "kidding." I'm saying that Rush is a serious junkie. I already quoted that passage from Ben Hicks that pretty much sums up what I'm thinking. I'm addicted to nicotine and caffine. I have trouble with both. Oxycontin... :eek:

Personally, pain killers give me nasty hangovers that more than counterbalance any "euphoria" I get when I take them. Now, I consider myself lucky.

[lissener]

I love the kneejerk righties in here, Apos and Libertarian, pretending they'd have exactly as much sympathy for a homeless black crack addict as they're offering Rush Limbaugh.

Rush Limbaugh (nor his followers) no longer EVER have any right to spout bullshit about the equal opportunities available to all American individuals and the downside of Affirmative Action. Look at the opportunities Rush had, and he STILL succumbed to the devil in the bottle.

I hope this gives him new respect for those people who have most of life's forces arrayed against them and STILL manage to live a drugfree life, and especially a LOT more respect for those people who, like him, succumb.

[Esprix]

Is this where we all go, "HAW HAW HAW!"? 'Cause that's what I did.

Esprix

[elf6c]

This is a tough one.

Laugh at the hypocite being caught red handed with illegal drugs within 2 weeks of being fired (oops I mean "resigned") for a borderline racist crack, or realize that to do so would make me no better then that slimy piece of crap.

So I compromise- ha ha, you got fired and exposed as a race baiting crackpot.

And get well soon from your addiction. Addiction ain't funny. Hopefully, when you get out of rehab and finish picking up trash for community service (or recording anti-drug commercials), that maybe your views on drug policy will be a little more informed. Maybe some good could come from this tribulation he faces. While Rush deserved to be fired for his statements, and exposed for the ignorance he often spews, celebrating that someone was exposed as a hard-core Oxycontin addict just isn't right.

The fact that is addiction might have cost him his hearing is all the more reason not to rejoice. That's my opinion, at least.

[Sofa King]

Well, elf6c, you could also tie Rush's addiction to a quarter of a billion dollars' worth of potential fraud.

"The bottom line is, from May 29 up until about 10 days ago, I lost hearing every five days, to the point, ladies and gentlemen, I'm now totally deaf in my left ear," said Limbaugh, 50. --cite (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/limbaugh_hearing011008.html)

That was May 29, 2001. Rush renewed his contract with Premiere Radio Networks in July (http://www.clearchannel.com/rad_premiere.php) of 2001. Rush's statement above appears to indicate he was somehow monitoring his condition while in contract negotiations.

Some people have speculated that Rush concealed his deteriorating condition from Premiere in order to secure his contract. Now we must also consider the distinct possibility that Rush's hearing loss was caused by the abuse of prescription opiates. Nothing probative, of course. Just very curious....

[Beagle]

It's "probative" but not conclusive. But, I'll go with handfuls of downers over a very rare degenerative disease -- if Rush was taking handfuls of downers. It appears that he was using Elvisian quantities of prescription medication up to the strongest pharmaceutical opiate I'm aware of -- other than dilaudid. Dilaudid is what killed Heather Graham's character in Drugstore Cowboy.

[neutron star]

Originally posted by Cervaise
I don't get why everybody's calling Rush a hypocrite. He's never suggested that rehabilitation and forgiveness should not be available to rich white men.

He hasn't?

From MSN: (http://www.msnbc.com/news/979355.asp)
virtually every newspaper dredged up this 1995 quote from Rush: “Too many whites are getting away with drug use. The answer is to ... find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river.


Also from that article (though not related to the previous comment):

Gary Bauer, president of the conservative organization American Values, drew a distinction between a crack addict and Limbaugh’s brand of addiction. “From a moral standpoint, there’s a difference between people who go out and seek a high and get addicted and the millions of Americans dealing with pain who inadvertently get addicted,” Bauer told NEWSWEEK.

:rolleyes:

[Apos]

I love the kneejerk righties in here, Apos and Libertarian, pretending they'd have exactly as much sympathy for a homeless black crack addict as they're offering Rush Limbaugh.

Well, a friendly f*k you to you too, man or woman. All I was saying that, to be consistent, I think it's too bad someone has a drug addiction. That sucks. Also, that person may or may not be a total asshole and a hypocrite or whatever, depending on your political agenda or perspective. That just wasn't what I happened to be saying.

And wait a minute. Fuck you again, for saying anything about my sympathies. As I noted, I DO think there is a real double standard and Bauer's quote simply does not adequately defend it. Addictions happen for all sorts of reasons: but it's blatantly obvious that punishments are very different for those more likely to be experienced by the more well off. To me, this simply further suggests that the Drug War doesn't work: it's just easier to apply unjust treatment to the powerless.

And I f*king WORK with, among other street homeless populations, homeless black crack addicts (plenty of whom aren't black), previously for a living, and volunteer, and hopefully for a living again if I can get a job.

And Lib didn't say anything about comparative sympathy for anyone: he asked a question about what Rush said, not even an agressive question, but a perfectly reasonable request for a cite before a continued pile on.

[Revtim]

Apparantly, Rush also called Jerry Garcia "just a dead doper" when he passed. I first heard this from Al Franken, who although I find pretty trustworthy might be a bit biased, so I did a search on it. I found this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Jerry+Garcia+%22just+a+dead+doper%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&selm=DDJrsC.8uH%40murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU&rnum=1
One more thing regarding Limbaugh: He referred to Jerry's
death as having occurred under "fishy" circumstances (thus
continuing the paranoid theme so dear to the hearts of his
addled acolytes) and went on to say that it didn't matter,
though, cuz Garcia was just a "dead doper."
Note that this usenet message was made way back in 1995.

[county]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Beagle
Well, yes, I was "kidding." I'm saying that Rush is a serious junkie. I already quoted that passage from [b]Ben Hicks that pretty much sums up what I'm thinking.


No, what I mean't was that addiction or no addiction; I certainly don't and have never considered Rush to be anything close to "normal" in any definition of the word that I have ever come across.

I personally don't believe the man has any personal beliefs other than saying what is good for Rush and will make Rush money and get Rush more attention. He is, IMO, an abberration of this society.