I'm seeing, but I don't belive!

[Jedi-667]

Alot of you are responding but not answering.
Just alot of; blah, blah..."hey check out this web site"
There's an old proverb that says: Answer not a fool unto his folly. I'll check up on you all from time to time. Just to see if your growing up.

[MrKnowItAll]

Well, that's awful nice of you. Please let us know when we live up to you're (sic) expectations.

[neuro-trash grrrl]

Good, just dismiss everything we say out of hand. That's real grown up, pal.


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[Eutychus]

Answer not a fool unto his folly

Maybe that's why you're not getting many responses?



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[Glitch]

BTW, "Jedi" isn't in unholy to pretend to derive magical powers from sources other than God. This is the big criticism CAPAlert gave Star Wars (it's intrinsic ungodliness). Since one can only take from your username that you are a fan of Star Wars and from your posts that you are a Bible literalist you are commiting an act of heresy. Me thinks you have a hot future in store (actually I don't because there is no hell other than the one you make for yourself here, something to ponder perhaps).

[Satan]

He makes trolling comments, MANY people reply with genuine answers (the replies to his list of questions were great!), a couple of people naturally "take the bait" (his words) and flame him, and he complains about the latter without even commenting on the forum.

Oh yea. I'll miss this guy...

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[GuanoLad]

He's sadly typical of the ignorant creationist. Spouts standard oft-repeated dogma, then doesn't bother to respond to the answers, because he has not been told how to respond to accurate scientific answers.

I don't get it. "A lot of responding but not answering"??? What kind of answer did he expect?

Weirdo.



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[David B]

Guanolad said:Spouts standard oft-repeated dogma, then doesn't bother to respond to the answers, because he has not been told how to respond to accurate scientific answers.Precisely.

I remember a particularly classic "discussion" with a couple of Catholic creationists (before the Pope made clear that evolution was ok -- tho I'm not sure even that changed their "minds"). First, the wife, Sarah, started with the standard:

Sarah: They haven't found the missing link!
Me: What missing link?
Sarah: The missing link. The one they haven't found.
Me: Could you explain what link this is?
Sarah: The missing link! They haven't found it. That disproves evolution!
Me: [Long explanation of why this isn't correct or true]

Suddenly, Sarah's Husband, LeftEye, joins in.

LeftEye: They haven't found the missing link.
Me: Jeez... Here we go again...

They had heard that refrain from their pastor or Bible study leader and just accepted it. It was stamped into their foreheads and, no matter what was said to them, they could not get around it.

[Glitch]

But David you are clearly forgetting they haven't found the missing link yet. ;)

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[Satan]

I FOUND THE MISSING LINK!

Here it is...

http://www.

Do I win a prize or something?

[David B]

Jedi's unending admiration.

[DrFidelius]

But if we FOUND it, it wouldn't be MISSING anymore. Every "link" you find makes TWO MORE "missing links" (You have #1 and #3. You find #2. Now you have to find #1.5 and #2.5. Continue ad nauseum.)

[Polycarp]

The {insert name of city you wish to ridicule} Zoo recently expanded their large-cat collection.

The picked up a jaguar at the European Auto Importers dealership.

They got 16 snow leopards from the pound.

Now they're out searching for the missing lynx.

[kknick34]

Creationist here (meekly raising hand). Please don't paint all of us who believe in creation with this nutball (Jedi-667). I believe in the scientific method, the big bang and yes, natural selection (gasp!).

It is simply my faith that God is the catalyst to our existence, and science explains the method of creation and the nature of the universe.

As for Jedi, he probably would have had Galilao (sp) burned at the stake for suggesting the earth revolved around the sun, if he was around back then.

[David B]

kknick, while you may believe that God is behind creation, I don't think labeling you as a "creationist" is appropriate, given the current use of the term. "Creationists" do not believe in evolution; many ("Young Earth Creationists") do not accept the Big Bang and believe the Earth is only 6-10,000 years old. "Old Earth Creationists" do accept, at least, that the planet has been around longer, but still reject evolution.

[Polycarp]

How about me, David?

[DoctorJ]

Alot of you are responding but not answering. Just alot of; blah, blah..."hey check out this web site"

Interesting how you summarize everyone's clear, concise, specific answers to your questions as "blah, blah", and then suggest that everyone else "grow up".

I'm just trying to figure out exactly what it is you want, jedi. Is it for everyone to say, "You know, you're right! I never thought about it that way! Evolution is wrong after all!"?

If you don't want to know, don't ask.

Dr. J

[David B]

Polycarp asked:How about me, David?How about you, indeed!

[Mojo]

Does this belong in Great Debates?

-And Jedi667, requesting an answer to a question like "Where did the laws of the universe come from?", but displaying an unwillingness to follow links (or check your grammar for that matter) shows real sloth on your part.

[John Hobson]

David B. said

I remember a particularly classic "discussion" with a couple of Catholic creationists (before the Pope made clear that evolution was ok -- tho I'm not sure even that changed their "minds").
ENDQUOTE

I belong to a couple of Catholic mailing lists, and a month or so ago on one of them I was having a "discussion" with a Catholic creationist, to whom the Pope's statement ("Evolution is more than just a theory") made not the slightest bit of difference.

Actually, the debate dropped into absurdity when he said that he believed in creationism because the early Church Fathers believed in it. I replied that they also believed in Ptolomy's theory that the sun rotated around the earth, and surely he did not believe in that also. He got all sorts of huffy, and said "of course I do". So, believe it or not, there are people out there who reject the heliocentric solar system.

As Schiller said, "Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain."

[David B]

Hmmm. Maybe we should check to see what Jedi's views are with regard to whether the sun revolves around the earth...

And then there's the Flat Earth Society...

[jab1]

Touche.

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[SterlingNorth]

Well, I have nothing to say but,

Jedi-667, after careful review of your academic record, belief system, and firm commitment in the face of facts and logic, we here at Patrick Henry College would like to congratulate you on your acceptance into our fine academy. . .

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[neuro-trash grrrl]

About that missing link:

One day, there was an awful smell emanating from somewhere in the living room. We couldn't figure out what it was. Then I remembered something. You see, a few days earlier, my father had been complaining bitterly that he had four pieces of sausage on his plate when he answered the phone, but now there were only three, and could we please explain where the other one went? Well, anyway, we moved the couch, and there it was. The missing link. Apparently, the cat had swiped it, hidden it, then forgotten about it. We threw it away. Now you know.

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[Boris B]

Here is why I feel oppressed. At 4:19 PM on the 27th, the QUESTIONS FOR THE EVOLUTIONIST thread appeared. I replied at 4:49. Then Jedi-troll puts this stupid thing up at 5:13, claiming no has replied to him except to fling insults. Unless it took 24 minutes for him to compose the OP, he's a liar as well as a troll.

Here is why creationists should feel oppressed: next time a sincere creationist comes around this joint, asking for real answers to honest questions, they'll be labelled a troll out of hand. I do believe there are creation science people who are willing to learn (haven't run into any in a while), so I am starting to feel oppressed on there behalf. Jedi is doing everyone who doesn't believe in evolution, and/or who is curious about evolution, a disservice, while he mildly annoys people who do believe in evolution.

In short, Jedi has done the entire human race a disservice. Not a big one though.

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[The_Peyote_Coyote]

I beg to disagree, Boris.
In his post, QUESTIONS FOR EVOLUTIONISTS, Jedi-666 asked "Can something come from nothing?" or words to that effect.
Since a post came from him and there is obviousily nothing in his head, I think he has answered the question affirmatively.
We can now answer his Question 14 with a resounding "Yes!"

[jab1]

I think this "debate" belongs in the BBQ Pit.

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[Polycarp]

Jab...you're just saying that because Dr. Fidelius is not arguing with you in it! ;)

[GuanoLad]

Maybe this was answered in the other thread, but isn't it the popular belief by creationists that God created the universe out of nothing?

Boy, if nothing else, Jedi-667 sure makes us question the sanity of some members of the human race.

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