Woah, Coldfire

[owlofcreamcheese]

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=219407

"Which Reeder obviously cannot. What an idiot."

probobly not the worst insult the pit has ever had, but something seems inappropreate about a moderator personally insulting a board member.

I mean I guess the moderators are posters too, but it seems like they should stay to a higher standard. if I was reeder I would wonder about any the fairness of all moderation coldfire did towards me, after he has publicly announced he thinks I'm stupid.

to be honest I dislike reeder also.... but I don't like the idea of moderators not even trying to be neutral

[Shayna]

Oh Please. Lower the setting on your sensitivity meter, whydon'tya. As you said, moderators are posters here, too, and they have every right to interact with other members as members and call idiots idiots when they see it that way. Unless you have some kind of evidence that Coldfire hasn't been "fair" in how he treats Reeder based on thinking him an idiot with regard to that one topic to which he replied, kindly lose the backhanded accusation that he can't perform his moderator duties impartially.

[alice_in_wonderland]

OCC - this discussion has happened before. (many, many times)

If I recall, the outcome was that moderators are, in fact, posters and can post as such.

It was obvious that coldfire was posting as coldfire regular guy, as opposed to coldfire jack-booted nazi moderator from hell. At least it was obvious to me. :)

[Lord Ashtar]

Before you condemn Coldfire, go back and read the entire thread. Reeder is just throwing around his left-wing feces again, hoping something would stick to Bush or Cheney. As of this posting, nothing has. I don't know if this makes him an idiot, but it sure leaves much open to interpretation.

[Coldfire]

Score! Am I in the lead now?

[Coldfire]

I'd like to add that I value my status as an equal opportunity asshole. Therefore, I like to curse out the occasional left wing idiot, too. Reeder just makes it so easy to keep the balance, since he posts so much utter wank on these boards.

[TaxGuy]

I don't think that someone telling Reeder that he is an idiot is an insult so much as it is a statement of the absolute bleedin' obvious.

[BubbaDog]

See examples below:

Incorrect Coldfire response - "Reeder, I don't like what you said. Thread locked"

Incorrect Coldfire response #2 - "Reeder you are banned"

Correct Coldfire response - Reeder I disagree with you. You are an idiot. Carry on.

Does that help?

Bubbadog

[owlofcreamcheese]

alice, its possible the topic comes up many times because many people feel as I do. That being given so much more power than a normal poster requires more responciblity than a normal poster. I think reeder is an idiot as well, I don't like the idea that the moderators should be makeing ad hominom. I don't think personal attacks and childish debateing techniques are what this site is about, and certainly should not come from the staff.

and of course political flamebait is stupid, its just moderators are reflections and in control of what the is okay on this site, and they aren't just normal posters.... they have way more power and responciblity than that.

[World Eater]

Taxguy pretty much nailed it.

[Coldfire]

So, what AM I allowed to say then?

"Reeder, you're not very smart."
"Reeder, the facts contradict your premise."
"Reeder, your mom dresses you funny."

Sometimes, ya gotta call a spade a spade. The fact that I also happen to be a moderator is irrelevant: when I need to make a judgment call on Reeder's posts as a mod, I will do so with the upmost impartiality. Whether or not you believe me on that one, well, that's up to you.

I know my conscience is clear when I call Reeder an idiot. 'Cause he clearly is.

[Giraffe]

Bullshit. Moderators keep this site running out of the goodness of their hearts1, and if they weren't allowed to participate like any other poster, it would be a pretty sucky job. Who wants to devote energy and time to a board you can't be a part of? So shut up.





1Hearts may not be found in all moderators. Check with specific moderator for presence of heart and/or blackness thereof.

[World Eater]

Taxguy pretty much nailed it.

[Guinastasia]

What Taxguy said.

[wring]

Originally posted by Coldfire
Score! Am I in the lead now?

I don't think so, but since manny's retired his jersey, you are the only real contender left. And I'm rootin' for ya big guy.






(please ignore the chants of "the king is dead long live the new king", thank you)

[London_Calling]

Did Taxguy nail this yet ?

[Coldfire]

Now, you didn't hear it from me, folks. But I've been hearing this Taxguy character sees an awful lot of action, ifyouknowwhatimsayin'.

[cheddarsnax]

I'm gonna have to agree with TaxGuy.

[owlofcreamcheese]

Giraffe, did I miss the part where this was some personal website some guy just made?

I think this is a site owned by chicago reader, and I don't really know what their policy is on haveing people that represent them calling people stupid.

[Munch]

Shouldn't he have spelled his name "Tacksguy"?

[Munch]

Originally posted by owlofcreamcheese

I think this is a site owned by chicago reader, and I don't really know what their policy is on haveing people that represent them calling people stupid.

I take it that you've NEVER read one of Cecil's columns then? An article by The Master where he doesn't insult someone is like a spring morning without stepping on 18 worms on my way to the garage.

[Chicago Faucet]

Within the process of being finished, in which Taxguy nailed it with a 1920's style death ray.

[Lord Ashtar]

The train has left the station. Prepare to clean up wreckage.

[Giraffe]

Originally posted by owlofcreamcheese
Giraffe, did I miss the part where this was some personal website some guy just made?No. Did I miss the part where someone said it was?I think this is a site owned by chicago reader, and I don't really know what their policy is on haveing people that represent them calling people stupid. Hey, just because you don't know doesn't mean you can't have an opinion about it.

This site is owned by the Chicago Reader. The moderators are unpaid volunteers who run it. The people who best know how the Chicago Reader wants the moderators to behave in performance of their duties is the administrators and moderators. Me, I know jack shit about what the Chicago Reader wants -- I was just offering my opinion that it's ridiculous to call for more restrictions on the posting habits of moderators, and that you should shut up.

[Cervaise]

TaxGuy tapped that ass.

[Larry Mudd]

This ordinarily self-consciously-nonconformist Leftie agrees with Taxguy, too.

[tomndebb]

Score! Am I in the lead now? Y'know, I'm pretty sure that I saw an Administrator declare that contest, dead, null and void, and verboten. I was just about to report this post when I noticed the list of Moderators for this Forum. Following that trail to its conclusion, I found myself on a möbius strip of causality and retribution, so I'm just going to say "t' heck with it."

[Gadfly]

Coldfire's a regular poster. He can post what he wants.

Coldfire, just on the record - you're my favorite Nazi. Rock on!

[mrsface]

I'm new round here - think I'll just wait and see what Taxguy says

[Fenris]

Y'know, I don't even have to click the link to assume that Coldie's assessment was accurate.

[Blonde]

Originally posted by owlofcreamcheese
I don't think personal attacks and childish debateing techniques are what this site is about <snip>

Dammit! I swear off posting to the Pit, and then you go and post something that makes me laugh out loud.

Sorry, owlofcreamcheese - I have to agree with those who have already posted. On the bright side, we have a new hero: Taxguy!

Do you actually do taxes? I don't, and it annoys me to no end that just because I'm a CPA everyone says "oh, you must be really busy!"every April.

[TVeblen]

Originally posted by Giraffe
... if they weren't allowed to participate like any other poster, it would be a pretty sucky job. Who wants to devote energy and time to a board you can't be a part of? So shut up.




Bingo. Besides, we don't have the luxury of picking and choosing which posts/threads to read. Let me tell ya, after a while the toxic mental sludge that builds up sure ain't pretty.

Veb

[Aceospades]

ahhh, the new catch phrase: TaxGuy nailed it.

[Bean Counter]

Originally posted by Blonde
Do you actually do taxes? I don't, and it annoys me to no end that just because I'm a CPA everyone says "oh, you must be really busy!"every April.

Preach it, B! Alleluia!

[Tuckerfan]

Originally posted by BubbaDog
See examples below:

Incorrect Coldfire response - "Reeder, I don't like what you said. Thread locked"Only because it's denying folks the fun of dynamiting puppies in a barrel.

Incorrect Coldfire response #2 - "Reeder you are banned"I gotta disagree here. I don't think that there'd be too many howls of protest if this happened. (Generally, at some point, people begin screaming, "Why is this guy still here?" in reeder threads.)

Correct Coldfire response - Reeder I disagree with you. You are an idiot. Carry on. Partially correct. We're here to fight ignorance, so for Coldy to tell reeder to carry on being an idiot would be a violation of board policy.

[El_Kabong]

I'd say World Eater pretty much nailed it on the Taxguy thing.

[Freddy the Pig]

The contrarian in me wants very badly to disagree with TaxGuy, but can find no rational ground for doing so.

[Giraffe]

Originally posted by El_Kabong
I'd say World Eater pretty much nailed it on the Taxguy thing. I found World Eater's first post to be rambling and unfocused, but his second one really cleared things up.

[wring]

I agree with Giraffe's assesment of WorldEaters' post about the TaxGuy

[Ukulele Ike]

Well....I think that Reeder is right.

[wring]

No, clearly, Reeder is left.

[Bugnorton]

what wring said.

[Jabba]

In this thread (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=219643), cainxinth asked for examples of phrases derived from foreign languages. So, qua, from the adverbial ablative feminine of qui, 'who', means "in the capacity of". As examples,
Coldfire qua poster thinks that Reeder is a buffoon.
Coldfire qua moderator is obliged to execute board rules without bias.

[John Carter of Mars]

What wring said the first time. Although, what wring said the second time is also accurate beyond question.

[El Cid Viscoso]

Taxguy's post count is 666.

[Blonde]

Originally posted by Mr. B
Taxguy's post count is 666.

Well, now let's not panic - we all know 666 = 18, as in line 18 on our standard IRS 1040:

Line 18-23-DEDUCTIONS
See “Instructions for Page 1” for allowable Adjustments. Enter total “Adjustments to Income” from Federal Form 1040 or 1040A. Must attach Form 2106 for employee business expense; Form 3903 for moving expenses; Front page of Federal Form 1040 for all other adjustments. (IRA, SEP, Alimony, etc.).

Hmm. On second thought, you have a point there. :D

[El_Kabong]

I found World Eater's first post to be rambling and unfocused, but his second one really cleared things up.

That's interesting, because from my viewpoint, World Eater's first post, while perhaps a bit wordy, nevertheless sharply defined the boundaries of the argument. OTOH, I felt his second post didn't really add much of substance to the discussion.

Er, much like mine.

[Doomtrain]

Originally posted by Coldfire
Score! Am I in the lead now?

See! You guys put your fit down on the Nazi Mod Races and it just comes back to bite you in the ass!

[Desmostylus]

Originally posted by Coldfire
Score! Am I in the lead now? Yep.

Coldfire 37, manhattan 32.Originally posted by tomndebb
Y'know, I'm pretty sure that I saw an Administrator declare that contest, dead, null and void, and verboten.Your memory may well be better than mine, but I think it was Eutychus, rather than any admin. I went back and looked at those threads, but the relevant mod/admin posts all seem to have been deleted.

The boards been pretty slow, so I didn't search as thoroughly as I would've liked, so if someone can find one of those statements, please post it.

[Desmostylus]

Ah, here it is: The Great Nazi Mod Races are Over (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186437)Originally posted by Eutychus
Sorry to spoil your fun, but since we've had TWO threads now pitting Jdavis just because he was scoreless in this silly thing, I can see this getting out of control pretty quickly.

If you have a legit complaint about a mods actions, Pit away. Otherwise, please keep the faux pittings out.

And any threads opened to Pit ME for this will be closed also. So there.

[Coldfire]

Well, in fairness, that just means you have to pit a mod or admin for a reason. Which was the case with this thread. Not a very good reason, mind you, but still.

So, I'm in the lead. Cool.

I'm sure Taxguy would agree.

[sirtonyh]

Originally posted by Jabba
So, qua, from the adverbial ablative feminine of qui, 'who', means "in the capacity of".

Considering that went about as far over my head as a 747 in mid-flight, I'll just concur with Giraffe's assesment of WorldEaters' post about the TaxGuy

[Giraffe]

Personally, I think sirtonyh is talking out of his ass in that last post.

[Shirley Ujest]

Originally posted by World Eater
Taxguy pretty much nailed it.

His dismount was good, now let's see what the judges say.

[Earthworm Jim]

Originally posted by Giraffe
Personally, I think sirtonyh is talking out of his ass in that last post.
Yeah, sirtonyh pretty much screwed it.

[Zanshin]

<Blazing Saddles>
TaxGuy Johnson is right!
</BS>

[Duke]

I've got to agree with TaxGuy's deduction.

This post brought to you by "Bad Puns-R-Us."

[Anonymous Coward]

When Taxguy talks, everyone listens.

[carrot]

Giraffe's assessment of sirtonyh's relative ignorance on the subject of World Eater's somewhat rambling dissertation on the accuracy of TaxGuy's description of Coldfire's invective against Reeder is, in carrot's considered opinion, the single most insightful post ever seen in The BBQ Pit.

[Spiff]

And carrot takes the lead in the Name Droppers Race!

[The Flying Dutchman]

Coldfire, I'm doing you a favour (http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/upmost.html)

[Munch]

grienspace, I'm doing you a favor (http://www.einfoweb.com/punctuation/period/index.html).

[sirtonyh]

Originally posted by Beelzebubba & Giraffe
Yeah, sirtonyh pretty much screwed it.

Hey, leave my ass alone you two

[The Flying Dutchman]

Thanks Munch :D

[carrot]

Originally posted by sirtonyh
Hey, leave my ass alone you two sirtonyh would like you to do him a favor.

[Coldfire]

Originally posted by grienspace
Coldfire, I'm doing you a favour (http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/upmost.html) Dammit, I knew that. Well, I am a foreigner, you know.

Still, I'm waiting to hear what word Taxguy would prefer.

[Zoe]

Tax who?

Right-wing what?

Who has Coldfeet?

What?

My name is Zoe, now where was I going?....

[Boo Boo Foo]

Ha Ha...



Coldie got pitted, Coldie got pitted.

N'yah... N'yah...

If you drank more Bundaberg Rum in Amsterdam your world would be a different place, that's for sure. Not quite so Orange, for starters! Heh Heh Heh

Cheers, bugalugs!

[Jackmannii]

Speaking of 666, I was testing my new pager on Saturday and put that in as the callback number.
Only I goofed and called someone's else's pager by mistake.

I wonder what they thought.


Sorry for the hijack. And kudos to Taxguy.

[Reeder]

Shouldn't I get some kind of thanks for all these cheap posts?

The nerve of some posters..pad their post counts at my expense.

[Giraffe]

Thanks for being such a dingbat, Reeder. We all really appreciate being able to post about it.

[Reeder]

I stand by my post. Cheney is making money off of Halliburton.

[Fenris]

I stand by my post: Reeder is a nitwit.

[Reeder]

Been called worse by better.

But I don't stoop to calling names.

That's juvenile.

[vanilla]

I may have missed the thread or threads where Reeder was proven to be so stupid.
Can someone explain in 50 words or less, what everyones beef with him is?

[Giraffe]

Originally posted by Reeder
I stand by my post. Cheney is making money off of Halliburton. Of course Cheney is tied to Halliburton, and of course that's why they get big fat no-bid contracts. You're not a dingbat because you believe those things, you're a dingbat because you can't argue, reason or convince for shit, and you make normal liberals look bad with your inane ramblings.

[Guinastasia]

vanilla-he's the left-wing december.

Almost EXACTLY like december.

[El_Kabong]

I'll give it a shot. Reeder appears to believe that the Bush administration is, if not the greatest evil in history, certainly up in the top ten. This may or may not be the case, but Reeder has made it his personal mission to 'educate' us on the many injustices of the Bush crew, since we apparently are incapable of monitoring this situation on our own. Unfortunately, he shows little sign of critical thinking and the information he cherry-picks to "prove" his preconceived point is simply unreliable and quite often has been shown to be incorrect; cf. his recent claim that the fact that Cheney owns mutual funds of the Vanguard Group 'proves' that he is illegally recieving income from Halliburton.

Furthermore, he seems to post to a schedule; rather than launching a thread when he might have a concrete issue for discussion, he seems to post on his given subject with the idea of always having an anti-Bush thread on view, rather than risking waiting until he's got something concrete to discuss. He's like the mad preacher on the street corner that you have to edge past on the way to work each morning; he may have nothing to say on any given day, but by damn, he's gonna fill in the gaps with loud speechfying until he does.

For his ludicrously simplistic view of current affairs, and stubborn refusal to learn from his repeated errors of fact, maybe 'stupid is too harsh a word. But jeez, I wouldn't be surprised if scientists found that the mass between his ears was the density of plutonium.