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paulberserker
11-19-2003, 07:50 AM
This is what I refer to (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0314331/) .

Why does every 'major' british film have to have Hugh fucking Grant in it? Films such as this, 4 weddings and a Funeral & Notting Hill get right on my nipple ends. The end result being most of America thinks people talk like this over here. Stupid bumbling 'terribly sorry' shit schtick in EVERY single film he's been in motherfucker.

"Falling in love never looked so ...romantic! And FUNNY! Curtis' valentine to love is one for all; a must see and an instant classic!"

re: " a formulaic, pull in your parents because Dad wants to see Kill Bill and Mum wont let him popcorn no brain involved slush for fucking idiots at the cinema once every 3 months"
Instant classic my arse. MONEY MONEY MONEY from saps.

They make good films in Britain still (28 Days Later, Dog Soldiers). But this isn't one of them. I would rather blind myself with a fork than ever sit through this shit. I hope all the same actors/writers/directors that seem to monopolise British Film involved choke on the millions it will make.These films have no worth whatsoever. A romanticized picture of Britain that has nothing to do with anything.

Gaaa!

:mad:

Neurotik
11-19-2003, 07:55 AM
Have to agree. I refuse to watch any more films with that insipidly grinning tool in it because I always come out aggravated by not being able to slap the shit out of him.

Tamerlane
11-19-2003, 07:59 AM
Eh, About a Boy wasn't bad.

- Tamerlane

Brutus
11-19-2003, 07:59 AM
Why did they use MP5s and G3s in Dog Soldiers? Don't get me wrong; It was a suprising good movie. But damnit all to Hell, Brit soldiers should have had their SA80's!

TwistofFate
11-19-2003, 08:01 AM
I just have to ad that I think "Dog Soldiers" is the shizzle.

jjimm
11-19-2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by paulberserker
I would rather blind myself with a fork than ever sit through this shit. Aha - so you haven't seen it yet?

How can you criticise that which you don't know?

Do not judge a movie until you have seen it.

You are young but you will learn.

(I have seen the trailer, and it looks like a light-hearted rom-com reflecting the social mores of the transatlantic relationship. A delight! For all the family!

...oh, and also a pile of formulaic spudfuck wankcheese.)

Aries28
11-19-2003, 08:11 AM
Spudfuck wankcheese? :D

I think I love you.

Coldfire
11-19-2003, 08:17 AM
28 days later was indeed excellent.

I'm not particularly interested in the movie the OP references, although 4 Weddings was a decent movie in its own right - at the time. It's just been re-done so many times, by now.

paulberserker
11-19-2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by jjimm
Aha - so you haven't seen it yet?

How can you criticise that which you don't know?

Do not judge a movie until you have seen it.

You are young but you will learn.

(I have seen the trailer, and it looks like a light-hearted rom-com reflecting the social mores of the transatlantic relationship. A delight! For all the family!

...oh, and also a pile of formulaic spudfuck wankcheese.)


My eyes? don't need them where I'm going...
correct jjimm , the paul has not seen it. nor will he ever. but believe me when I say I know enough about FUCKING HUGH GRANT and this type of shit to know it is a fucking atrocious pile of, mmm, whats worse than dogshit?

pissy batshit.

I have seen Mickey Blue Eyes (gash), 4 weddings (double fucking gash) and Notting Hill (the biggest gash ever. with a cherry on top)


someone should make a pie out of Grant, and soonish. I love my Mum, but simultaneously hate her for making me buy this shit for her for Christmas + Birthdays.

smam
11-19-2003, 08:33 AM
Without fail every British comedy poster will have the tag ' Best British comedy since 4 Weddings/Full Monty/Bend it like Beckham '
Fuck off with that shit. And why do British reviewers gloss over the bad points in a British film?
btw was 'The Guru' British? Because that was the shitty and not one review led me to believe otherwise.
'About a Boy' was good though.

smam
11-19-2003, 08:36 AM
Sorry I meant the reviews made it out to be some real funny and clever shit, when it twasn't. I guessed 1/2 the gags before the movie even started.

WILLASS
11-19-2003, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by paulberserker

someone should make a pie out of Grant, and soonish. I love my Mum, but simultaneously hate her for making me buy this shit for her for Christmas + Birthdays.

Amen to that brother! Unfortunatley in my case its my dad, actually that is the proud owner of every fucking Hugh flop, mop, toff, cock Grant film ever made.......it so embarrasing. I hate 'the Grant' with a passion, which makes my task of buying his shit celluloid fairytales even more bile inducing than I thought was possible. What we need is a decent film with the poncy whoremongerer as lead role. Maybe something like '28 Hughes Later' - effectivley it is a film where the 'Hughmeister' has been cloned 28 times and each of his insipid, wussy alter egos are executed in an increasingley more amusing manner than the last. Now i'd pay to see that.

everton
11-19-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Tamerlane
Eh, About a Boy wasn't bad.
Yes, in fairness that is the only film I've seen Grant in where I never wanted to punch him at all.
Originally posted by smam
Fuck off with that shit. And why do British reviewers gloss over the bad points in a British film?
I don't think jjimm reviews films for a living, but “a pile of formulaic spudfuck wankcheese” seems less than fulsome in its praise to me and it pretty-much sums up plenty of reviews of Love Actually I've read. Empire Magazine phrased it a little more politely (http://www.empireonline.co.uk/reviews/review.asp?id=9547).

The Guru? I presume you mean this one (http://www.iofilm.co.uk/fm/g/guru_2001.shtml), not this one (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064396/)?

Steve Wright
11-19-2003, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by paulberserker
but believe me when I say I know enough about FUCKING HUGH GRANT You're Elizabeth Hurley???

(d&r)

paulberserker
11-19-2003, 09:13 AM
Thats the only sticking point I have with Empire, and indeed watching Film 2003 last night. They both faun over this shit like its their national duty to do so. WE KNOW its a British film. Good for our industry. But nobody seems to review these conniving emotional vacuums of 'movies' objectively.

ITS THE SAME IN EVERY FUCKING RICHARD CURTIS FILM! Him and Grant appear to be cauf=ght in some kind of pointless quaint english Groundhog day as far as writing/directing/acting goes. Have a bash at a different role or storyline for fucks sake. No progression, no artistic merit, sad, stay still boring.

I'm am now going to endeavour to find said Fucko's, and attempt to get the 3-4 hours of my life I've spent watching their filmic piss back. By taking it out of their ribs yo.

WILLASS, I feel for you. Your Dad!? Sheeit.

hajario
11-19-2003, 09:30 AM
The wife and I went to see Kill Bill a few weeks ago and they showed the preview for L,A. It seemed like it went on forever. We're talking lame ass romantic comedy with Hugh Grand plus it's a fucking Xmas story. It went on and on and on and my bloodpressure was going through the god damned roof. My wife realized what was going on and started giving me a neck rub to try to calm the situation. I swear to christ that if it had gone on for one more minute, I would have been climbing the nearest clocktower with a rifle and a thousand rounds of ammo.

Haj

beagledave
11-19-2003, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Steve Wright
You're Elizabeth Hurley???

(d&r)

I was thinking more like Divine Brown.

CanvasShoes
11-19-2003, 09:34 AM
Okay, I totally agree about 4 weddings and a funeral. SUCKY movie. And I'm not a huge fan of Hugh Grant.

This isn't aimed at the OP, but the OP reminded me of the incredible amount of bitching about movies these days. ALL movies. Why is it, that all movies these days SUCK?????

They can't be "just okay" or "not to my taste" or maybe "cute". They all suck, they're all "shit".

I don't think I've seen a single movie put out in the past 6 years that hasn't been taken apart as "garbage/shit/etc" online. You'd think that people that hate movies this much would stop going to the damn things.

And no, I haven't seen this particular one, maybe it's not all that great, maybe it's merely "Okay". Or maybe, it'll surprise me and truly "SUCK" or be "shit".

I think that people don't really hate these movies so much as they just want an excuse to attempt to impress people with such overused phrases as "made me want to gouge my own eyeballs out" or "there's two hours I'll never get back".

Sheesh folks. It's ONLY a movie, it's not like someone kidnapped your firstborn.

London_Calling
11-19-2003, 09:38 AM
Richard Curtis didn’t write ‘About a Boy which has a lot to do with the why it feels quite different to the 4 Weds > Notting Hill > This Bollocks kind of thing.

I’m more interested in the sexless curio sometimes known as ‘that bird wot was in EastEnders’. Is Martine McCrutchLunch up to the job as Hugh tossled-haired Grants bit of rough, or do we always have half an eye on the door of Number Ten expecting a confused RRRIIICCKKYYYYYYYYYYY to wander in from the (yet still) ablaze car lot ??

Zebra
11-19-2003, 10:04 AM
OK

I've actually seen Love, Actually.


I was pretty let down. I did like 4 Wed, except for that horrible American women. and I will admit that I like Hugh Grant. I think he is funny.

But the movie is a huge mess.

Basically the writer wanted to write a little story about every kind of love and somehow link the stories together.

It needed to drop about 4 of the story lines and then make the other ones make sense.

There is one story line where this young British loser dude realizes that if he went to America his accent would be sexy and he would get plenty of babes. He goes to WISCONSIN and goes to the first bar he sees. (not the one in the airport) and instanly hooks up with FOUR girls. (all of whom for some reason have a 'Texas' accent)

This guy is connected to the story by the fact that he served as a waiter at a wedding reception of more interesting characters.


However, the US president is a character. At first the president is Clinton-esque and makes a pass at Mr. Grant's (the PRIME MINISTER?) assistant. Then later in a press conference Grant stands up to the US president and makes it seem like he is talking about Bush Jr.

But Grant falls in love with his assistant.

Why? Don't know they only exchange about 6 sentences in the whole film.

But she is a touch overwieght.
And has pale skin and long dark hair.
And is kind of low class.
And wears a beret and in a big scene gives Grant a huge hug.

Remind you of anyone?

The Emma Tompson Alan Rickman is the best story and I wish they made the entire film about them.

everton
11-19-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by paulberserker
Thats the only sticking point I have with Empire, and indeed watching Film 2003 last night. They both faun over this shit like its their national duty to do so. WE KNOW its a British film. Good for our industry. But nobody seems to review these conniving emotional vacuums of 'movies' objectively.
Did you read the Empire review paul?
… formulaic and dependable…

…Hugh Grant in full-on bumbling mode…

…this is a complex, densely-plotted affair, and in trying to tell the individual stories of so many people, you get the sense that Curtis has bitten off more than he can chew…

…The final reel also disappoints, combining a bunch of seen-it-all-before set-pieces (the likes of which were done much better in Four Weddings) with an unpleasantly manipulative finale.

paulberserker
11-19-2003, 10:25 AM
No. Got the new one, but I think I skipped the review. I was more on about their undying support and general sycophantism for Grant/Curtis.

my bad. They've been wrong in the past, although not that often.

I bet Heat magazine will have a real subjective dissertation on it though.

hmm, venting in a vacuum.
:p

everton
11-19-2003, 10:37 AM
Promise me you don't read Heat. Seriously – I'm squeezing back the trigger right now :).

It's OK to say it's your missus's copy.

Duke
11-19-2003, 10:48 AM
When I lived in England, and I was dating my future (now ex-) wife, it was a happy time. Now, that I'm stuck back in the States, and single and not dating, sometimes I think back on those days wistfully.

But then I remember. I don't have to be dragged to go see another effing British romantic comedy starring Hugh effing Grant ever again! And it makes me feel so much happier.

Knowed Out
11-19-2003, 10:53 AM
But CanvasShoes, hating movies is fun! Cynicism is already prevalent in our society, so why not direct it at the entertainment industry? If we didn't go to movies at all, we might be car bombing politicians or something. Plus, nobody can express spite and vitriol better than the British. Let them continue!

pepperlandgirl
11-19-2003, 10:56 AM
*shrug*
I liked it. Alan Rickman, Liam Neeson, and Colin Firth......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't even remember the details of the movie, I just remember those three and mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

paulberserker
11-19-2003, 10:58 AM
Its neither mine nor my missusus. Heat deserves its own pitting in a seperate thread. I was merely being sarcastic about its reviews of films and ting. Got a Z-list 'celeb' in your film? 5 stars!

fuckers.

and I'm quite enthusiastic about good film. endless discussion picking stuff apart isn't really what I'm after.

Giving this type of film and Hugh Grant is though. Predictable. See jjimm? didnt need to ever watch it. zebra's sorted out exactly what I had already guessed. A confused mediocre mess.

CanvasShoes
11-19-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Knowed Out
But CanvasShoes, hating movies is fun! Cynicism is already prevalent in our society, so why not direct it at the entertainment industry? If we didn't go to movies at all, we might be car bombing politicians or something. Plus, nobody can express spite and vitriol better than the British. Let them continue!
I know, that was sorta harsh. It's sort of a pet peeve of mine. I just, every once in a while get so annoyed at the "oh, I'm so hip, cool, and cynical that movies are just beneath me" attitude that seems to just absolutely rule in this day and age regarding any halfway popular movie.

It's almost as if, as soon as a movie has proven itself popular among enough people (based on sales, or word of mouth, etc), the critics come out of the woodwork. Makes me wonder, what DO you people want? I mean, what would it take for a poor movie to get a mere "it was okay" rather than a burial from you? (collective you).

There are no greys here, it's all black and white. Well, actually mostly black from what I see. As I said, the movies aren't just so-so, or okay. They go to great lengths to complain about how they're the worst scourge of hollywood since Elvis movies or something.

Sorry, end hijack (sheepish smile).

alexandra
11-19-2003, 12:52 PM
Heat film reviews are terrible. Brit romcom with Hugh Grant? Five stars. Bit gritty, bit depressing but good? Four stars.
Still like the rest of the magazine, though.

Crusoe
11-19-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Brutus
Why did they use MP5s and G3s in Dog Soldiers? Don't get me wrong; It was a suprising good movie. But damnit all to Hell, Brit soldiers should have had their SA80's! In an attempt to make one post even sadder than Brutus':

Weren't they supposed to be SAS? If so, the SAS just love their Heckler & Koch toys. I think they even use M16/M203 combos in the field rather than the frankly poor SA80.

MC Master of Ceremonies
11-19-2003, 06:24 PM
Love actually made me cry; cry when I realized I'd wasted Ł5 to see such godawful shite HAHAHAHA!*






*I haven't actually seen it and it's not on general release in the UK 'til Friday

Guinastasia
11-19-2003, 06:31 PM
Wait, Alan Rickman is in this?

The only Hugh Grant movie that I'll actually watch is Sense and Sensibility and that has more to do with Rickman, Thompson, and Winslet. Hugh Grant spent the whole movie looking as if he left the hanger in his shirt.

kicks Hugh Grant in the shins YOU SUCK!

macabresoul
11-19-2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by London_Calling
I’m more interested in the sexless curio sometimes known as ‘that bird wot was in EastEnders’. Is Martine McCrutchLunch up to the job as Hugh tossled-haired Grants bit of rough, or do we always have half an eye on the door of Number Ten expecting a confused RRRIIICCKKYYYYYYYYYYY to wander in from the (yet still) ablaze car lot ??

What the hell is going on in this paragraph?!

Mr2001
11-19-2003, 08:30 PM
Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/LoveActually-1127289/reviews.php) has it at 69%, which is fresh (though just barely). Are reviewers really that crazy?

CanvasShoes
11-19-2003, 08:46 PM
Rotten Tomatoes has it at 69%, which is fresh (though just barely). Are reviewers really that crazy? I don't know about "crazy". I don't think that they have the "be all and end all" where taste in entertainment is concerned. But, I know that I usually tend (except where Disney is concerned) to follow the opposite of what they say, and end up avoiding the crappy movies and seeing the good ones.

ArrMatey!
11-19-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Guinastasia
kicks Hugh Grant in the shins YOU SUCK!

Okay. I'm in love with you now. And I need to get the diet pepsi off my monitor. :D

DoctorJ
11-19-2003, 09:26 PM
I don't know--the last movie I saw Hugh Grant and Alan Rickman together in was An Awfully Big Adventure, which is by far the worst movie I've ever paid money to see.

But hey, I'm always up for a good British romantic comedy, so long as the only alternative is spending the evening slamming my testicles in a car door.

Dr. J

CadburyAngel
11-19-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by macabresoul
What the hell is going on in this paragraph?!

And people laugh at me when I say that the English speak a different language.

I've gone through that paragraph a few times, and although I think I sort of grasp that it has something to do with some actress from Eastenders, the rest of it reads like the author's been possessed.

I'm going to see it, reviews aside, because I will see anything if it has Alan Rickman in it. I'm so weak.

Hey, It's That Guy!
11-19-2003, 09:57 PM
About A Boy is actually a good movie, but that's because it is based on a novel by Nick Hornby, the man who also wrote High Fidelity. Doesn't feel anything like the other Hugh Grant movies, and that's a good thing.

Crusoe
11-20-2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by macabresoul
What the hell is going on in this paragraph?!

I’m more interested in the sexless curio sometimes known as ‘that bird wot was in EastEnders’. Is Martine McCrutchLunch up to the job as Hugh tossled-haired Grants bit of rough, or do we always have half an eye on the door of Number Ten expecting a confused RRRIIICCKKYYYYYYYYYYY to wander in from the (yet still) ablaze car lot ??

TRANS.

"Is the actress Martine McCutcheon, who appears in this film, any good as Grant's love interest, or is she just recycling her TV soap performances?"

Typo Negative
11-20-2003, 02:46 AM
For the record:

Four Weddings and a Funeral was a great flick.

So was Two Weeks Notice and About a Boy and Sense and Sensibility.

Notting Hill was crap. So was 9 Months. But that was a writing issue, not Hugh Grant issue. I mean, how am I supposed to believe that a child psychologist gets freaked out by the presence of children???

London_Calling
11-20-2003, 02:57 AM
Diamond geezer, Crusoe.


Peggy Mitchell (http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters/peggy_b_fact.shtml): Fwanks wiv me naww, ya Bitch
Pat Butcher (http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters/pat_e_biog.shtml): You sleeeeegggg

paulberserker
11-20-2003, 03:17 AM
YOOOUUURR NOTT MOI MAVVERRRR!
YES OI AAAAAMM!!

(end Eastenders quotes)

Hey, I'm all for supid no brainer movies. I like Armageddon even. Theres been plenty good films out i've seen this year. But why bother with this if you've seen any other Richard Curtis film? His work on BlackAdder aside, this guys a one trick pony.

I will guarantee you not one character or situation in this film has any bearing on real life. And yes, I know, thats the point of most films as escapism or suspension of disbelief, but for the many people who will suffer through this film, it gives a false impression of people in England. NOBODY talks like Hugh Grant. Or even acts like that.

and as a hijack on my own thread what the fuck is with the accents on Buffy the Vampire Slayer?? I was watching it last night (I think its the final series on BBC2), and there was some young next in line Slayer with what I imagine is a 'Cockerney' accent. It was fucking unbelievable, in all senses of the word. And that vampire lass that used to be on it what went out with Spike.

Yes, I am a Prime Minister
Yes, i'm going to get Dick Van Dyke.

People in England have regional accents! Learn from this, american TV and FILM!

here endeth the lesson

WILLASS
11-20-2003, 03:23 AM
I saw that paulbeserker, very fookin dodgy......also note 'Dirty Dens' daughter off 'Eastenders' has lost her L.A twang in the space of about 2 episodes.......strange.

spogga
11-20-2003, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by Aries28
Spudfuck wankcheese? :D

I think I love you.

After you with Aries28 and can I have that quote of his as a sig?

Floater
11-20-2003, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by beagledave
I was thinking more like Divine Brown.
But that wasn't fucking. It wasn't even sex (according to Clinton).

jjimm
11-20-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by spogga
After you with Aries28 and can I have that quote of his as a sig? Oh sure, just tear me apart and argue over what's left...

paulberserker
11-20-2003, 08:25 AM
I'm a Prime Minister, not a prossie or an attention seeking 'famous for being famous' clothes horse with the acting ability of an inanimate object and dead soulless eyes staring out at me from magazine covers.

The original thing was suppose to be Hugh fucking Grant, not:

but believe me when I say I know enough about FUCKING HUGH GRANT
------------------------------------------------------------------------
:P

Still, shows you how good in bed Liz Hurley is if FopBoy has to go to a $10 hooker to get his cock smoked. Heh heh..,

WILLASS
11-20-2003, 08:27 AM
Ok, Ok, i'm now being dragged to go and see this lump of turkey jizz film with my girlfriend when it comes out. After I politley told her that i'd rather 'cheese grate my helmet and dunk it in vinegar' She informed me that it was her turn to choose a movie (I chose 'Kill Bill', annoyingley she wanted to see that) and that if I didn't go and enjoy it she would withdraw all 'privileges'. I may have to shit my own pants to liven things up........

WILLASS
11-20-2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by paulberserker

Still, shows you how good in bed Liz Hurley is if FopBoy has to go to a $10 hooker to get his cock smoked. Heh heh..,

Never underestimate the 'humming' power of a $10 'ho, it is after all, her job.......:eek:

Neurotik
11-20-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by paulberserker
and as a hijack on my own thread what the fuck is with the accents on Buffy the Vampire Slayer?? I was watching it last night (I think its the final series on BBC2), and there was some young next in line Slayer with what I imagine is a 'Cockerney' accent. It was fucking unbelievable, in all senses of the word. And that vampire lass that used to be on it what went out with Spike.

Yes, I am a Prime Minister
Yes, i'm going to get Dick Van Dyke.

People in England have regional accents! Learn from this, american TV and FILM!

here endeth the lesson
No, the new slayer has a Caribbean accent. Not an English one. The only regulars with British accents are Spike, Drusilla and Giles. And only Drusilla's is bad. Well, plus Angel's Irish accent, but that almost never happens on the show.

And considering when I was in England no one could tell the difference between my non-accent (from California), the person with the heavy Texas' accent and the person with the heavy Boston accent I really don't want to hear any whining from you folks across the pond about regional accents.

What really gets me is the people in the UK who heard me talking and thought I was from Australia. Gah!

paulberserker
11-20-2003, 10:28 AM
this is the white girl you're talking about? with the dodgy accent?

theres a black girl (rhona?) kennedy, chloe and the blonde one with the stupid accent. are we on the same trolley here?

spogga
11-20-2003, 10:59 AM
'cheese grate my helmet and dunk it in vinegar'

Brilliant!

alexandra
11-20-2003, 03:59 PM
And considering when I was in England no one could tell the difference between my non-accent (from California), the person with the heavy Texas' accent and the person with the heavy Boston accent I really don't want to hear any whining from you folks across the pond about regional accents.
The point is many TV producers in America aren't aware that there ARE more accents than Cockney and RP, not that they can't decipher between them which would be quite understandable.
You must have met some stupid people though, who the fuck would confuse an American and Aussie accent?

Monkeytoes
11-20-2003, 04:14 PM
Another quick vote for the impressiveness of "28 Days Later". I saw it on video over 2 weeks ago and am *still* getting flashbacks. Ergh!

I liked the "Hugh grant playing the only character he can play" movies the first couple of times. After that, no. Lately, I've joined the legions who want to see him killed in nasty ways.

g8rguy
11-20-2003, 06:08 PM
You must have met some stupid people though, who the fuck would confuse an American and Aussie accent? Well, for one, the twit at the rental car agency in Orlando... But he's obviously too stupid for words, after asking if I was an Aussie, he asked if I was French. I'm still confused, 3 years later.

Neurotik
11-20-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by paulberserker
this is the white girl you're talking about? with the dodgy accent?

theres a black girl (rhona?) kennedy, chloe and the blonde one with the stupid accent. are we on the same trolley here?
Oh wait. You're talking about the final season. For some reason I thought you were talking about season 2. I think it's because that's what is rerunning on FX over here right now so I got the two confused. I haven't seen the last season in a while, so I can't hear what her voice was. But I'll take your word for it.
Originally posted by alexandra
The point is many TV producers in America aren't aware that there ARE more accents than Cockney and RP, not that they can't decipher between them which would be quite understandable.
You must have met some stupid people though, who the fuck would confuse an American and Aussie accent?
Well, if Americans cant' distinguish between them (I can sort of, but not really) why would we bother trying to get American actors to try out anything besides the stereotypical?

And I dunno about the Aussie accent thing. I couldn't understand it, either, and I was quite taken aback the first time someone thought I was Australian based on my accent. But I got it at least 10 times over the course of 4 months, and not just be the elderly either. Very bizarre.

Morbo
11-20-2003, 07:30 PM
G'Day, Neurotik!! Glad to hear ya haven't get killed Down Under by all those deadly creatures out there in the Outback! If you survive, we'll put some put some shrimp on the barbie for ya, mate! Crikey!! :)

Re: the OP. I saw this movie. It sucks tremendously. Hugh Grant as the Prime Minister was about as believable as President Harrison Ford kicking the crap out of professional mercenaries in their 20's in Air Force One. Liam Neeson's grieving period didn't last as long as mine for my pet rock. I agreed to go b/c I love Laura Linney. She managed to irritate the shit out of me during her 3 minutes of screen time. To entertain myself, every time Hugh Grant was on screen I leaned over to my wife and whispered "I'm just a girl...standing in front of a boy....asking him...to love her...."

I'm picking the next movie. I'm thinking of a Sergio Leone DVD rental marathon.

paulberserker
11-21-2003, 04:37 AM
Thank christ that even when I did have an SO (upto 3 months ago) she wouldnt make me go see stuff like this. If she aint going to see Star Wars/sci fi/ anime films with me, I certainly aint going to no chick flicks.

Ha! the SDMB peeps who saw this movie proves me right!

Sergio Leone DVD marathon? good call. I may go get Once upon a time in the west myself this weekend.

And as for the Buffy crap accent, it is the final season i'm on about.
I'll accept that most americans would be confused by regional accents- most i've met are confused by mine, in fact I know english people confused by mine (broad yorkshire)- but she could at least do it something like.

they have these people in Hollywood called VOICE COACHES. they TEACH YOU HOW TO SPEAK IN A REGIONAL ACCENT. I'm sure Buffy's budget was big enough to accomodate one of these. Bah!

confessorknight
11-21-2003, 06:15 AM
As regards Dog Soldiers I was fairly sure that the fake guns(now what the hell are those things called) were modelled on SA80s - but the live-firing guns they picked up from Captain Ryan's (special forces but never refered to as SAS) squad did largely seem to be made up of MP5s. I think as as the movie is concerned Ryan and his team just do what they want as regards weaponery (fair enough considering the SA80s apparent reputation as a piece of shit among soldiers[as reported in every article about the inadequacy of British military gear] )

confessorknight
11-21-2003, 05:10 PM
Putting some actual thought into it I realise that they were just regular guns loaded with blanks and, so, not having any live ammo for them they were ditched as soon as possible.
About A Boy was better than the rest of Grant's movie because (as others have said) it wasn't written by Richard Curtis and he was playing against type as a overconfident, self-interested wanker.

burundi
11-22-2003, 09:15 AM
I liked Love Actually, but I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's taste. As pepperlandgirl mentioned, it's got some great actors--Liam Neeson, Emma Thompson, Alan Rickman, etc. But if you hate romantic comedies, you won't like this movie. If you're neutral about them (I usually avoid myself), you might be pleasantly surprised.

Gyrate
11-22-2003, 09:42 AM
Hey, I liked The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down a Mountain, despite a title that makes it sound like a Merchant-Ivory porn flick. Love Actually, however, looks to be so saccharine it could cause cancer in laboratory rats. Definitely on my "must avoid by a wide berth" list.

And I get the impression that Martine thinks this is her "big break", whereas I'm guessing it's the last nail in her acting coffin (the one with the brass plaque reading "Cheeky Cockney Lass-type" on it). Considering that she's already killed off her singing and stage acting careers (and her Eastender character) in very short order, I give it eight months before we see her on The Bill.

Rilchiam
11-23-2003, 05:02 AM
Rilchiam walks through living room, sees TV screen showing Hugh Grant in a hospital setting and wearing a lab coat.

Rilch: "Why are you watching Nine Months?"

Mr. Rilch: "No, it's called Extreme Measures. Thought I'd check it out 'cause Gene Hackman's in it."

Rilchiam sits down, watches Hackman assure Grant that there's no need to be concerned about a case history that's disappeared. Grant is unconvinced...

Rilchiam: "Well, I'll be. He can play something besides the mumbling, stuttering Brit!"

E. Thorp
11-24-2003, 01:08 AM
I liked Four Weddings and a Funeral quite a lot. Seeing Love Actually made me realize what an accomplishment 4WaaF was...the new flick is but a pale imitation of the earlier effort.

I went to see Love Actually because I'll watch Laura Linney in anything. She was tragically underused, but not as tragically underused as she was in Mystic River.

Boo Boo Foo
11-24-2003, 03:13 AM
Hugh Grant's a very talented actor - honestly, he is.

Unfortunately for him, he suffers from Cary Grant disease insofar as it seems as though every role he plays is a variation on the same role. When we think of Cary Grant after all these years we think of North by North West or some such ilk, but movie fans are aware that Cary Grant did some wonderfully challenging roles in his time.

Hugh Grant will come good. He'll start playing some nasty roles in a few years and our perceptions will change. But nonetheless, he's a far better actor than immediately meets the eye. He's simply made a few too many "Merchant Ivory" films over the years for the perception of type casting not to stick.

paulberserker
11-24-2003, 06:07 AM
I disagree. I've seen nothing in anything he's done, including Extreme Measures that will prove he'll come good.
If he was going to go against type, surely he has enough pull to get a decent villain role by now.
IF he was going to do it. which i doubt.

Jennyrosity
11-24-2003, 06:25 AM
Well, I saw it last night and I really liked it. Yes it was pretty smaltzy. Yes, it was completely unrealistic (note to Colin Firth: when you "fall in love" with a pretty girl you can't exchange 2 words with, that ain't love. It's another 4-letter word beginning with L, but it ain't love). But so what? I don't need films to be "real", I live reality every day. A little bit of sweet escapism is sometimes just what I need, especially at Christmas. For me, it was the film equivelant of curling up on my sofa by the fire to eat chocolate. You'd make yourself sick if you did it for too long, but every once in a while it's an extremely comforting way to stop the world and get off for a bit. And I thought the little kid was adorable. I want to take him home and keep him as a pet. :)

London_Calling
11-24-2003, 06:35 AM
Sounds like the definition of a girlie film to me.

Wake me up when the thread gets around to Liz Projectile Hurling.

ShibbOleth
11-24-2003, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by WILLASS
Ok, Ok, i'm now being dragged to go and see this lump of turkey jizz film with my girlfriend when it comes out. After I politley told her that i'd rather 'cheese grate my helmet and dunk it in vinegar' She informed me that it was her turn to choose a movie (I chose 'Kill Bill', annoyingley she wanted to see that) and that if I didn't go and enjoy it she would withdraw all 'privileges'. I may have to shit my own pants to liven things up........


You should split up with her now before her dragging you about by the boys becomes a more serious habit.

WILLASS
11-28-2003, 08:12 PM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! We went to go and see the film on Thursday night and it was sold out! What a stroke of luck.......unfortunatley when we got back to the house her housemate made us watch 'Queen of the Damned' - Hot damn thats a shit film, at least I could escape to bed half way through.......and ShibbOleth she's not a ball buster (I made her out to be for a more amusing post) it was just her turn to pick a movie.

El Cid Viscoso
11-28-2003, 08:26 PM
spooje, you're a bastard. ;)

Based on your input in this very thread, I agreed to sit through Two Weeks [sic] Notice.

Were you being intentionally cruel?

Dewey Cheatem Undhow
11-28-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Gyrate
Hey, I liked The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down a Mountain, despite a title that makes it sound like a Merchant-Ivory porn flick.I agree, although to be fair Hugh isn't a huge part of the film (it's sold as a Grant vehicle, but it's much more of an ensemble piece). Colm Meany and the old priest own. And hey, it's a true story.

It's the only Grant film I can stand, though.

astorian
11-29-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by paulberserker

Still, shows you how good in bed Liz Hurley is if FopBoy has to go to a $10 hooker to get his cock smoked. Heh heh..,

Actually, at the time of Grant's arrest, the cynica lwoman I wasd dating suggested that

1) He'd WANTED to get caught, and
2) The arrest would HELP his career.

I was baffled by how she could say such a thing, but her explanation made a bit of sense. She noted that one of the ONLY things keeping Hugh Grant from becoming a major sex symbol to millions of American women was the suspicion that he was gay and Liz Hurley was little more than a "beard."

By shelling out a few bucks to a hooker, and a bit more for a fine, Hugh Grant "proved" in a very public way that he liked girls! Ultimately, my then-girlfriend argued, that could only be a PLUS for him at the box office.

I'm still not 100% sure she was wrong!

astorian
11-29-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by paulberserker

Still, shows you how good in bed Liz Hurley is if FopBoy has to go to a $10 hooker to get his cock smoked. Heh heh..,

Actually, at the time of Grant's arrest, the cynica lwoman I wasd dating suggested that

1) He'd WANTED to get caught, and
2) The arrest would HELP his career.

I was baffled by how she could say such a thing, but her explanation made a bit of sense. She noted that one of the ONLY things keeping Hugh Grant from becoming a major sex symbol to millions of American women was the suspicion that he was gay and Liz Hurley was little more than a "beard."

By shelling out a few bucks to a hooker, and a bit more for a fine, Hugh Grant "proved" in a very public way that he liked girls! Ultimately, my then-girlfriend argued, that could only be a PLUS for him at the box office.

I'm still not 100% sure she was wrong!

LorieSmurf
11-30-2003, 05:56 PM
Just saw Love, Actually.

I liked it.

Bestfilms
01-31-2013, 04:56 PM
I agree I hate Love Actually too. It's a fucking 2 hour 20 minutes comedy, why make a comedy so long? And that multiple storylines thing is getting tired too. Interestingly the same studio that made this drivel told George Lucas (who invented the format with American Graffiti) that you just can't have numerous different storylines with lots of different characters - and then they made this after Graffiti become a hit!

The only opinion of the OP that I disagree with is that 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' wasn't great, when it was a classic. A hit made by the people without a huge, expensive marketing campaign - unlike this. The Tall Guy and Notting Hill were excellent films too. Additionally, I think Richard Curtis created some great shows with 'The Vicar Of Dibley' and 'Blackadder', but this formula has become weak and tiresome. Done way too many times by now and this is overkill. It's boring and tedious and I can understand why most people hate this movie.

hajario
01-31-2013, 04:58 PM
Just so you know, this thread was originally started over nine years ago.

John Mace
01-31-2013, 05:05 PM
How many films has Hugh Grant been in since then?

Maserschmidt
01-31-2013, 05:11 PM
How many films has Hugh Grant been in since then?

They're working on a third Bridget Jones movie. While that does not precisely answer your question, it does indicate that the man is still working.

Nancarrow
01-31-2013, 06:39 PM
I was thinking more like Divine Brown.

And so was I. And I'm from the future.

muldoonthief
01-31-2013, 06:59 PM
But, Love Actually has hobbit porn!

Robb
01-31-2013, 09:24 PM
I'm British (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=FkF_XpA5P48&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFkF_XpA5P48)

Gary Kumquat
02-01-2013, 05:41 AM
And that multiple storylines thing is getting tired too. Interestingly the same studio that made this drivel told George Lucas (who invented the format with American Graffiti) that you just can't have numerous different storylines with lots of different characters - and then they made this after Graffiti become a hit!

As well as being a particularly splendid Zombie resurrection, I've got to ask how you conclude that Lucas invented the use of multiple storylines in a film. Tales of Manhattan, for example, predates American Graffiti by nearly 30 years.

Gyrate
02-01-2013, 07:28 AM
In the interim I have seen the film. The bit about the lobster was funny. Everything else, not so much.

Mind you, I think Grant's best role to date has been "angry celeb taking the Murdochs and the paps down a peg at the Leveson inquiry". That was awesome.

Springtime for Spacers
02-01-2013, 11:33 AM
And I get the impression that Martine thinks this is her "big break", whereas I'm guessing it's the last nail in her acting coffin (the one with the brass plaque reading "Cheeky Cockney Lass-type" on it). Considering that she's already killed off her singing and stage acting careers (and her Eastender character) in very short order, I give it eight months before we see her on The Bill.

Pretty spot on. Her biggest recent role has been advertising yogurt. She did crop up on Midsomer Murders last night though -- as first corpse.

Gyrate
02-02-2013, 06:46 AM
Pretty spot on. Her biggest recent role has been advertising yogurt. She did crop up on Midsomer Murders last night though -- as first corpse.I don't think she ever made it to The Bill though, which has also died in the interim.