Go, Ramseys, go!!

[Diogenes the Cynic]

JonBenet Ramsey's parents are suing Fox News (http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAW62SELOD.html)
The parents of slain 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey filed a $12 million federal defamation lawsuit against Fox News Network over a story they say cast suspicion on them.
In the lawsuit filed Tuesday in Atlanta, John and Patsy Ramsey took issue with a report that aired last year for the six-year anniversary of JonBenet's death. In it, a Denver-based employee stated there has "never been any evidence to link an intruder to her brutal murder."

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Prosecutors and a federal judge have said evidence in the case was more consistent with the theory that an intruder killed JonBenet. The parents were never charged.
Let's hope the Ramsey's get every penny. It's about tome Faux news was brought down for its relentless slanted and dishonest reporting. It would be especially nice in the wake of FNC's own recently dismissed , frivolous lawsuit against Al Franken.

I have no idea who killed JonBenet but I do know that the press has treated her parents as if they were guilty from day one, despite the fact that they have never been charged and not a single piece of evidence has ever been found against them.

Fox is one of the worst at this kind of crap. They had that Ricci guy convicted in the Elizabeth Smart case and then never mentioned his name when it was discovered he had nothing to do with it.

Even if they settle this case, they'll have to admit that they're muckraking liars with no journalistic standards.

Go, John and Pat! Take these fuckers down!

[Darth Nader]

I have nothing to say, except that I'm really-

Really,
really,
really,
REALLY-


-glad I moved away from that fucked-up town before that whole terrible mess happened.

[Brutus]

What a hypocritical thread. Diogenes the Dipshit is all about waiting for the final verdict before passing judgement, huh? Let's get all the facts before we start assigning blame. Good idea, unless it's Kobe Bryant (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216448) we're talking about, huh? What a dork.

[SeekingTruth]

It's taken you this long to realize that Dio rants without thought? The problem is, the vast "right wing conspiracy" can't be invoked in the Kobe Bryant case. Although, Fox News has reported it, so I guess it's bullshit, right Dio?

[SeekingTruth]

Oh wait, it must be the evil right, after all, it is a black man being prosecuted by a white man.

Stupid DNA.

[45/70]

Been quite a while since they had a paying gig. Time to go back to the well for another bucket load of cash. Their meal ticket is dead. What was a six year old doing home alone?

[Squink]

Sheesh, here it is Christmas morning and Diogenes the Cynic fails to deliver on his "Condoms Gone Wild" thread title. It's like he's in league with the Grinch or something.
Bah Humbug!

[Early Out]

Originally posted by 45/70
What was a six year old doing home alone? What are you talking about? There was no six-year-old home alone in this tragedy, ever. Please adjust your asshole before speaking out of it.

[SeekingTruth]

beat me to that one, Early

[45/70]

My mistake, I do make them. This mess still stinks. Somebody sleeps awful well to not notice anything. Carrying a child from an upstairs bedroom to the basement. Another murder unsolved because somebody covered their tracks very well. Investigation lacked quiet a bit too.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Hey, Seeking Truth, I think Kobe is guilty, nimrod.

Brutus, The Ramseys have never even been charged with anything so why speculate on their guilt?

[Weirddave]

Bet you wouldn't be whistling so joyfully if it was the Washington Post that was being sued, eh Dio? WE MUST PUNISH BIAS IN THE PRESS!!....unless it falls in a way you agree with, huh?

[Diogenes the Cynic]

If the Post has published libel they should be sued. Got any examples?

[county]

Given the circumstances of the Jon Benet Ramsey case; it is likely that the murder was committed by a family member.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Based on what evidence?

[county]

Did not say evidence. Murders are more likely to be committed by someone who knows the deceased. Unusual, if not dysfunctional family. Lack of evidence of an intruder. No one was charged/caught. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Do you think it was more likely that Jon Benet was killed by an intruder or family member? (I am not asking about evidence, just your opinion)

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Read the link:
Prosecutors and a federal judge have said evidence in the case was more consistent with the theory that an intruder killed JonBenet.

There WAS evidence of an intruder. That's why The FNC story was false.

[asterion]

Does anyone really give a fuck anymore?

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Not really. I was just feeling some schadenfreude over Fox News getting sued.

In retrospect it was a pretty lame OP.

[county]

Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic
Read the link:


There WAS evidence of an intruder. That's why The FNC story was false.


Actually there doesn't appear to be actual evidence of an intruder.

I was in Colorado for Christmas the year of the murder and I followed the case afterwards. I would really like to see whoever killed that child caught and punished.

It was a lame OP.

[Liberal]

By the time I got to this...

Even if they settle this case, they'll have to admit that they're muckraking liars with no journalistic standards....I forgot what news agency was being pitted.

[RTA]

Aren't the Ramseys opening themselves up to the taint of further examination of this case in a court of law?

After all, though the prosecutors and judge say the evidence is more consistent with the theory of an intruder, there's still nothing that rules out a member of the family, right?

They must feel pretty confident of a big payday, otherwise I don't understand why they would put themselves back in the papers.

[catsix]

There's also nothing that rules out a family member being the "intruder".

After all, who would be best able to enter the Ramsey's house after dark, go upstairs, take the kid, get her to that hidden room in the basement, kill her, and not wake up the Ramsey family? How would an intruder know about the hidden room to find it so quickly? After all, wasn't the reason it took so long to find JonBenet's body that it was in that 'hidden room' in the basement?

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Originally posted by county
Actually there doesn't appear to be actual evidence of an intruder.

I was in Colorado for Christmas the year of the murder and I followed the case afterwards. I would really like to see whoever killed that child caught and punished.

It was a lame OP.
Actually, there IS (http://www.cnn.com/US/9801/11/jonbenet/) evidence of an intruder.
Originally posted by RTA
Aren't the Ramseys opening themselves up to the taint of further examination of this case in a court of law?
What further examination is possible? They've been investigated up the whazoo as it is. There's nothing there.
Originally posted by Catsix
There's also nothing that rules out a family member being the "intruder".

After all, who would be best able to enter the Ramsey's house after dark, go upstairs, take the kid, get her to that hidden room in the basement, kill her, and not wake up the Ramsey family? How would an intruder know about the hidden room to find it so quickly? After all, wasn't the reason it took so long to find JonBenet's body that it was in that 'hidden room' in the basement?
I always found this "hidden room" thing a little specious. I'm pretty sure I could find a secluded spot in a big house if I was really looking for one.

[catsix]

Yes, but could you do it at night while people are sleeping in the house while dragging around a struggling six year old without waking anyone up?

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Sure, if she was dead.

[county]

Nope, no evidence of an intruder. Just evidence that there "might" have been an intruder. Same kind of "evidence" that could/would be found at your house or mine.

evidence -
1. provide evidence for; stand as proof of;

(wishing don't make it so)

[Diogenes the Cynic]

DNA on the body that doesn't belong to either of the parents is pretty solid evidence of an intruder.

[Lord Ashtar]

I really think the Ramsey's should just go away. Whether they did it or not, the majority of public opinion is that they did it. They should just slink back into obscurity and be thankful they're not in prison.

But hey, at least they aren't promising to use the money they're going to win from the FNC (and they will win) to find the true killer.

[Beagle]

I DARE YOU TO CLICK THIS! (http://www.foxnews.com/)

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Their clearly slanted reporting of the Iranian earthquake makes my blood boil! But seriously, folks, there is not much to see there most of the time.

BTW, this lawsuit is iffy.

[county]

Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic
DNA on the body that doesn't belong to either of the parents is pretty solid evidence of an intruder.

Or that she was licked by a puppy dog.

[Largo62]

Originally posted by Brutus
What a hypocritical thread. Diogenes the Dipshit is all about waiting for the final verdict before passing judgement, huh? Let's get all the facts before we start assigning blame. Good idea, unless it's Kobe Bryant (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216448) we're talking about, huh? What a dork.
Let's be fair, Brutus, there is a difference between expressing an opinion, as Dio did and reporting something unsubstantiated as fact, as Fox did. At least the trial, if there is one, may establish that they did. More likely Fox will settle for an "undisclosed" amount and put the whole thing to rest.

What follows is just an opinion, not reportage. I've suspected from early on that JonBenet was murdered by her brother, and that the Ramseys have been protecting him. It has never been explained to my satisfaction how an intruder got into the Ramsey house without leaving any tracks in the snow. An anti-gravity belt maybe? :dubious:

[Missy2U]

Says asterion
Does anyone really give a fuck anymore?

Says Dio
Not really. I was just feeling some schadenfreude over Fox News getting sued.

Again, a nice sentiment. Merry fucking Christmas.

It's a dead child, folks. Do we need to reduce ourselves to this? Dio, I'm disappointed in you. I know you don't give a shit, but I'm really, really disappointed in you. Way to pick at a wound. Especially one that involves a dead child.

[Early Out]

Originally posted by DesertGeezer
I've suspected from early on that JonBenet was murdered by her brother, and that the Ramseys have been protecting him. I thought I was the only one. It's the only explanation that makes any sense, the only explanation that makes the subsequent actions of all the parties understandable.

[county]

Well, if he did it, he cannot be protected because he knows he did it and a person doesn't ever "deal" with something like that or get over it.

(Unless he's a sociopath, in which case they would really be making a mistake)

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Originally posted by Missy2U
Again, a nice sentiment. Merry fucking Christmas.

It's a dead child, folks. Do we need to reduce ourselves to this? Dio, I'm disappointed in you. I know you don't give a shit, but I'm really, really disappointed in you. Way to pick at a wound. Especially one that involves a dead child.
I'm not callous to the fact that a child was murdered, especially since I have a four year old daughter myself.

Part of what bothered me about the media's finger pointing at the Ramseys was the utter lack of consideration for them as victims and as grieving parents, which as far as we know, is all that they were (and are).

I think that the parents in a case like this should be given the respect and compassion due to the victims of such a sickening crime unless and until it can be substantially shown that they are not victims.

[Nurobath]

Not to hijack the thread or anything but...Beagle, what exactly about the Fox report of the Iranian earthquake is making your "blood boil"? I've been hearing similar reports all day from various other news networks.

As to the OP. I think that it would be great if the authorities could figure out who did it but, at this point, I just don't see that happening. I can't believe they're suing Fox over that little quote when I still see their faces on the cover of the National Enquierer at least every few months with new theories at to how Mom or Dad killed her.