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Thylacinewas taken
12-26-2003, 12:54 PM
You can see entire naked writhing women on TV*, you can even see a penis or two, but I have never seen an erection on TV, whether clothed or not. What is it about erections that is such a taboo?

(*Usually latenight TV)

Vezer
12-26-2003, 01:12 PM
You don't see a woman's vaginal area either (non-scientific).

Crusoe
12-26-2003, 01:26 PM
The general rule of thumb in the UK (supposedly clarified by the British Board of Film Classification in 1992, although I can't find reputable cites for that) is the so-called "Mull of Kintyre" test. If it's at a greater angle that the Mull of Kintyre (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=150000&Y=650000&gride=&gridn=&scale=1000000&coordsys=gb&mapsize=big) is, it's not acceptable.

Jackmannii
12-26-2003, 01:39 PM
*Calgarian TV must be a trip.

pothead
12-26-2003, 03:05 PM
I've seen naked women on primetime too. I recall an episode of NYPD Blue where some woman stepped out of the shower and before she could put her robe on a kid walked in.


I presume the reason for allowing naked women and men but not showing erections is to distinguish between art and eroticism. A naked female is considered to be a beautiful form by many and is considered natural. The same I suppose can be extended to the naked male or perhaps because we live in an increasingly "gender equality" age. Working with the "gender equality" idea, if men are allowed to be top less on TV, why shouldn't women. In New York State, a woman is allowed to be topless in the same public areas that a man is. But she can't be sexually promiscuous about it. However, the U.S. is still pretty puritan in its ideals and a naked woman on TV is still pretty rare. Its probably more common in Europe. Showing an erection on the other hand is considered distasteful, vulgar, and sexually provocative. Sex is deemed to be a private matter in most cultures and thus society enforces laws to keep it that way.

amarone
12-26-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by pothead
I've seen naked women on primetime too. I recall an episode of NYPD Blue where some woman stepped out of the shower and before she could put her robe on a kid walked in.

That was Charlotte Ross. Although she was naked, her arms and hands (and use of camera angles) were always placed so as to obscure breast and vaginal areas. Like this (http://www.nypdblue.org/gdchar/11.jpg). I assume this picture is OK for SDMB, if it was OK for Disney's ABC in prime time.

pothead
12-26-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by amarone
That was Charlotte Ross. Although she was naked, her arms and hands (and use of camera angles) were always placed so as to obscure breast and vaginal areas. Like this (http://www.nypdblue.org/gdchar/11.jpg). I assume this picture is OK for SDMB, if it was OK for Disney's ABC in prime time.

Coulda sworn it was more revealing. Anyway, Titanic is a even better example. Being rated PG-13, and the blockbuster hit it was, millions of kids saw Kate Winslet with just a necklace on, and on a big screen no less.

Flutterby
12-26-2003, 07:45 PM
Uhm.. but I know for a fact that there is a show you can see erect penises (penii?) on.. yes it's late night tv (Midnight) but.. yeah it's pretty obvious what it is..

Just turn on Access on a Saturday night I think it is.. (Either that or Sunday I think)

Ranchoth
12-27-2003, 04:26 AM
Well, on TLC and the Discovery channel, you can occasionally see an erect penis. Mostly on sex documentaries. (Esp. Desmond Morris' documentaries)

Heck, once, they even had a tiny camera planted in a vaginaóor at least, a reasonable facimile thereof. I don't know which is more creepy.óand filmed a penis during intercourse. :eek:

It'll be a few decades before Fox can top that.

Capt. Ridley's Shooting Party
12-27-2003, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by Crusoe
The general rule of thumb in the UK (supposedly clarified by the British Board of Film Classification in 1992, although I can't find reputable cites for that) is the so-called "Mull of Kintyre" test. If it's at a greater angle that the Mull of Kintyre (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=150000&Y=650000&gride=&gridn=&scale=1000000&coordsys=gb&mapsize=big) is, it's not acceptable.

How ... quaint.

:p

AncientHumanoid
12-27-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Crusoe
The general rule of thumb in the UK (supposedly clarified by the British Board of Film Classification in 1992, although I can't find reputable cites for that) is the so-called "Mull of Kintyre" test. If it's at a greater angle that the Mull of Kintyre (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=150000&Y=650000&gride=&gridn=&scale=1000000&coordsys=gb&mapsize=big) is, it's not acceptable.


[Sean Connery]

I'll take "The Penis Mightier" for $100, Alex.

[/SC]

Bryan Ekers
12-27-2003, 01:43 PM
I'll take "Musical Bum" for $200, Trebek.

xayoz306
12-28-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by pothead
Coulda sworn it was more revealing. Anyway, Titanic is a even better example. Being rated PG-13, and the blockbuster hit it was, millions of kids saw Kate Winslet with just a necklace on, and on a big screen no less.


But once again, the reason for the PG-13 rating on Titanic despite the nudity was because it was being shown in an artistic setting, not an erotic setting.

Freiheit
12-28-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Obsidian Flutterby
Uhm.. but I know for a fact that there is a show you can see erect penises (penii?) on.. yes it's late night tv (Midnight) but.. yeah it's pretty obvious what it is..

Just turn on Access on a Saturday night I think it is.. (Either that or Sunday I think)

What the heck is Access?

NOTE: I have NO desire to see an erect penis.

pothead
12-28-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by xayoz306
But once again, the reason for the PG-13 rating on Titanic despite the nudity was because it was being shown in an artistic setting, not an erotic setting.

Precisely.

panache45
12-28-2003, 12:50 AM
Not too long ago, a patient on ER had an erection, covered by his hospital gown.

Larry Borgia
12-28-2003, 01:08 AM
In a dream sequence on The Sopranos Tony had a huge, presumably exaggerated erection. (no disparagement to James Gandolfinis/ Tony Soprano's manhood but this was a long dong silver woody) Can't remember the episode though.

Flutterby
12-28-2003, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Freiheit
What the heck is Access?

NOTE: I have NO desire to see an erect penis.

It's a provincial channel.. basically local TV. It's on channel nine peasant vision where Thylacinewas taken is. Shows a lot of educational stuff and you can even take college courses by correspondence and watching shows on that channel. They even have the episodes of the tapes they show in Physics class shown there. You can learn high school physics just watching tv lol.

I watch it sometimes because they have interesting movies at times and a couple of interesting shows (FBI files, Sex files.. which fyi is the one where you can see the erect penis) Mom and I watched it once because we were bored. It was interesting though, talking about research into sex and some studies which used MRI's and ultrasound as research into desire and orgasms. It looked a little uncomfy to be having sex in an MRI though..

aramis
12-28-2003, 03:37 PM
In the movie "Cross My Heart" which is sometimes seen on broadcast and basic cable TV, there's a scene where Martin Short (yes, the comedian) is lying on his side in bed with a sheet over him and talking to Annette O'Toole. There's no sexual context, but he's clearly erect under the sheet.

Czarcasm
12-28-2003, 03:41 PM
Moving this "Great" Debate to Cafe Society.

Bryan Ekers
12-28-2003, 04:08 PM
Of course, the Discovery Channel series Frontiers of Construction shows erections all the time.

Tapioca Dextrin
12-28-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Czarcasm
Moving this "Great" Debate to Cafe Society.

Before it becomes a "mass" debate?


D&R

John Mullets
12-28-2003, 08:47 PM
The show "Pizza" that used to be on SBS had a scene where a man was running away from the police with his erection poking out of VERY tight pants. It was 8:30 PM.

nineiron
12-28-2003, 09:25 PM
Not sure if this counts, but I remember an episode of "The Man Show" where the gag was that Jimmy Kimmel walked around with a hugely noticeable erection. Maybe the fact that it was fake changes things?

MsRobyn
12-28-2003, 10:43 PM
[Emily Litella]Why wouldn't there be erections on television? How else are we supposed to find out who wins?

Oh, elections! Never mind![/Emily Litella]

Robin

Evil Captor
12-28-2003, 11:26 PM
As far as late-night Skinamax flicks goes, which I think is what the OP is about, you can't see even floppy dicks, but you can see women's labia (i.e., not just her pubic hair, which is no more revealing than a swimsuit in many cases) though you never see labia while in use, as it were, and almost never in closeup. "The Key To Sex" used to have a brief closeup of Maria Ford's pierced labia and I remember a couple of nice shots of other actresses as well. You never get that gleeful sense of "Hey, lookie here, this is incredible!" closeup on anyone's genitals that you get in hardcore.

Some indie films have shown floppy dicks -- frex, Spun -- but I don't know of any that have shown erections.

Sampiro
12-28-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Crusoe
If it's at a greater angle that the Mull of Kintyre (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=150000&Y=650000&gride=&gridn=&scale=1000000&coordsys=gb&mapsize=big) is, it's not acceptable.

"Mull of Kintyre, oh mists rolling in from the sea
My Desire is always to be here... and no higher".

Badtz Maru
12-28-2003, 11:57 PM
In 'Irreversible' there is a rape scene where Monica Bellucci's rapist clearly has an erect penis after he gets off of her.

friedo
12-29-2003, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Evil Captor
As far as late-night Skinamax flicks goes, which I think is what the OP is about, you can't see even floppy dicks, but you can see women's labia (i.e., not just her pubic hair, which is no more revealing than a swimsuit in many cases) though you never see labia while in use, as it were, and almost never in closeup. "The Key To Sex" used to have a brief closeup of Maria Ford's pierced labia and I remember a couple of nice shots of other actresses as well. You never get that gleeful sense of "Hey, lookie here, this is incredible!" closeup on anyone's genitals that you get in hardcore.


I've seen real live floppy dicks in Skinemax features, but only in a wide shot.

The hairiest dick I've ever seen on screen was Robin Williams' nasty cock in The Fisher King.

KGS
12-29-2003, 12:59 AM
A recent episode of HBO's "Real Sex" showed clips from a Japanese game show where men had to produce the most semen in 48 hours. There were plenty of erections, which were blurred, but not that much. (Some of those Japanese men were surprisingly well-hung!)

Alias
12-29-2003, 10:38 AM
I remember someone telling me at some point that an erection in a film gave it an NC-17 rating NO MATTER WHAT. Bulges under sheets or pants don't count though, just the actual penis. That's why (I think) almost all naked penises in films are flaccid. I might be wrong, but the rule seems reasonable enough.

plnnr
12-29-2003, 11:37 AM
"The hairiest dick I've ever seen on screen was Robin Williams' nsty cock in The Fisher King."

Now poking my mind's eye out with a very sharp stick, thanks.

Thylacinewas taken
12-31-2003, 12:58 PM
Evil Captor says: "As far as late-night Skinamax flicks goes, which I think is what the OP is about, you can't see even floppy dicks, but you can see women's labia."

That's exactly what I meant! My...uh....friend....told...me... that there was a movie of questionable taste on Showcase or Bravo (Both channels that can get away with sex-filled nudity because it's 'artistic')where the woman was buck naked and they weren't afraid to show it, and when she begins giving oral sex to the also buck naked man, he's as flacid as can be!
I'm no man, but wouldn't being naked with a woman whose head is near your crotch cause a little bit of tingling in the loins?

blork
12-31-2003, 04:24 PM
showcase/bravo generally show foreign films, uncut uncensored, BUT that does not mean they didnít meet the country of their makings requirements. Iím fairly certain if you watch long enough you will eventually see someone standing at attention.

Left Hand of Dorkness
12-31-2003, 05:07 PM
Can't believe I'm getting in this discussion, but Angels and Insects (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0112365/), rated R, contains a semi-erect man.

Daniel

Cervaise
12-31-2003, 05:18 PM
Mr. Dorkness beat me to it by less than 20 minutes.

Otto
12-31-2003, 05:39 PM
Head On (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138487/combined) features not only an erection but full-on masturbation. Been a while since I've seen it so I don't recall if there is, um, fruition.

I seem to recall reading that Kyle MacLachlin had a CGI erection in Showgirls but not having seen the movie I can't confirm. MacLachlin did go full frontal in Blue Velvet but was flaccid.

Showcase or Bravo (Both channels that can get away with sex-filled nudity because it's 'artistic') Maybe Canadian Bravo does but American Bravo doesn't. Back in the day Bravo US used to show uncut uninterrupted films but they started slapping commercials in them sometime in the 90s and started editing for content around the same time. I remember how livid I got watching Parting Glances on Bravo as part of its World AIDS Day programming one year and discovering that it was censored. I believe at one point Bravo was owned by/affiliated with the Independent Film Channel but they are currently owned by NBC. It used to be that IFC would show the uncut film and Bravo would show the cut version; now Bravo is doing more original programming and also seems to really like Cirque du Soliel.

Headcoat
12-31-2003, 06:35 PM
Its because of the actor's unions. All the average and modestly endowed men realized that if erect penises on screen were allowed, they would have to reveal their inadequacies for the world to see. *









*I made this all up.

tracer
12-31-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Crusoe
If it's at a greater angle that the Mull of Kintyre (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=150000&Y=650000&gride=&gridn=&scale=1000000&coordsys=gb&mapsize=big) is, it's not acceptable.
On a modern map ... or on one of those ancient maps where East is on the top? ;)

Torgo
01-02-2004, 12:27 AM
A funny episode of Mad About You, er, the only funny episode, had Paul running around Manhattan with a Viagra-induced boner. You never saw the bulge but the effect was quite funny.

Baldwin
01-04-2004, 06:13 PM
But once again, the reason for the PG-13 rating on Titanic despite the nudity was because it was being shown in an artistic setting, not an erotic setting.
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Precisely.And immediately after that scene, the older version of Kate Winslet's character describes it as "the most erotic moment of my life." (It's not like art and eroticism are mutually exclusive, for Pete's sake.)

Rilchiam
01-12-2004, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by xayoz306
But once again, the reason for the PG-13 rating on Titanic despite the nudity was because it was being shown in an artistic setting, not an erotic setting.

And, I think, because they only showed one breast, and no pubic hair.

Michael Ellis
01-12-2004, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Rilchiam
And, I think, because they only showed one breast, and no pubic hair.

So Greek Amazons with Brazilians would get a PG-13 rating?

Thylacinewas taken
02-15-2004, 03:15 PM
For Valentines day "a friend" got a book on "massages". There are a lot of pictures of two people massaging sensually, but in none of them does the guy look at all interested (IE he doesn't have an erection). My only theory would be that if he had an erection it would be considered pornographic, since he'd be obviously sexually aroused.

Little Plastic Ninja
02-15-2004, 04:43 PM
Here's a question I've always wanted the answer to:

Are women "supposed" to shave their pubic hair? Is it considered a mark of someone who, er, often has people seeing their pubic area to do so? I never thought it was something like shaving your underarms or legs...and I haven't gone up to my female friends, looked them dead in the eye, and said "Pardon me, but do you shave your crotch?"

ltfire
02-15-2004, 05:17 PM
What the heck is Access?

NOTE: I have NO desire to see an erect penis.

Now, thatís a scary sentence. Enlighten us, are you male or female?
:)

Eats_Crayons
02-15-2004, 05:33 PM
In a dream sequence on The Sopranos Tony had a huge, presumably exaggerated erection. (no disparagement to James Gandolfinis/ Tony Soprano's manhood but this was a long dong silver woody) Can't remember the episode though.That would be in one of the earlier seasons when he had food poisoning that was giving him some seriously deranged dreams. He dreamt he was in his therapists ofice with an enormous erection stretching his pants out.

He also dreamt that he was talking to a dead fish.

Eats_Crayons
02-15-2004, 05:57 PM
Are women "supposed" to shave their pubic hair? Is it considered a mark of someone who, er, often has people seeing their pubic area to do so? I never thought it was something like shaving your underarms or legs...and I haven't gone up to my female friends, looked them dead in the eye, and said "Pardon me, but do you shave your crotch?"

My friend, you just must pop by and read the "Queer Eye for the Straight Crotch" thread. 'Tis not merely women who style their pubes.

Freiheit
02-15-2004, 08:14 PM
Now, thatís a scary sentence. Enlighten us, are you male or female?
:)

Male.

Scary?

ltfire
02-15-2004, 08:35 PM
Male.

Scary?

Well, ya gotta look at your own my friend or you'll be peeing on your shoes.
:D

widdershins
02-16-2004, 03:05 PM
Maybe he likes peeing on his shoes. ;)

Different strokes for different folks and all, y'know.

Thylacinewas taken
02-16-2004, 06:10 PM
Here's a question I've always wanted the answer to:

Are women "supposed" to shave their pubic hair? Is it considered a mark of someone who, er, often has people seeing their pubic area to do so? I never thought it was something like shaving your underarms or legs...and I haven't gone up to my female friends, looked them dead in the eye, and said "Pardon me, but do you shave your crotch?"



I really don't think it is. It's not an area that's seen as often as legs and armpits. I think shaving it is creepy because I've heard that a man that likes a shaved vaginal area is interested in its.... "youthfulness".

tremorviolet
02-16-2004, 06:25 PM
A recent episode of HBO's "Real Sex" showed clips from a Japanese game show where men had to produce the most semen in 48 hours. There were plenty of erections, which were blurred, but not that much. (Some of those Japanese men were surprisingly well-hung!)

I flipped over to HBO recently and was taken aback by an close-up of a (unerect) penis. They were doing a feature on "Puppetry of the Penis" (a humor type show where a couple of guys get on stage starkers and twist and pull their appendages into all sorts of humorous shapes such as a sailboat of the Loch Ness monster). Lots and lots of penis shots. But, the guys did say you had to absolutely not erect to pull off the penis manipulation and non of the penii were...

Eats_Crayons
02-16-2004, 07:07 PM
Coincidentaly, right now on cnn.com there is an article on challenging the male full frontal (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/16/film.full.frontal.ap/index.html) taboo.

The article discusses some of the issues surrounding why the pickle shot is uncommon in a non-porn context.

Kinda cool article actually. Slightly off topic, but definitley related. ;)

Otto
02-16-2004, 07:33 PM
From the cnn.com article: Pop-culture observers maintain that's because a de facto sexism still exists in Hollywood, where women can parade around in the altogether but men can't. I gotta disagree with this. It's because the target market for most mainstream films is male and the PTB don't think males want to deal with the sight of another guy's johnson on-screen. I think it's homophobia, not sexism.

tremorviolet
02-16-2004, 07:39 PM
From the cnn.com article: I gotta disagree with this. It's because the target market for most mainstream films is male and the PTB don't think males want to deal with the sight of another guy's johnson on-screen. I think it's homophobia, not sexism.

You know, I would agree with this to some extent. I don't think women react to nudity the same way guys do (I'm sure this point has been debated many times on the SDMB). So even if the target market is women, having a naked guy won't necessarily do much for them. (gay guys, on the other hand, would probably appreciate it but they're a minority and not usually specifically targeted) The film and television industry is ruled by the dollar and if it would make money, I'm sure we'd see an awful lot more male nudity on screen...

Neidhart
02-16-2004, 10:09 PM
Well, ya gotta look at your own my friend or you'll be peeing on your shoes.
:D

Since when can you pee out of an erect penis?

wakimika
02-16-2004, 11:01 PM
From the cnn.com article: I gotta disagree with this. It's because the target market for most mainstream films is male and the PTB don't think males want to deal with the sight of another guy's johnson on-screen. I think it's homophobia, not sexism.

It wouldn't freak me out, but I can see it bothering other guys. It's just a dick, for chrissakes.

I think that cnn article overlooked something. When you see a woman naked in mainstream Hollywood movies, Sharon Stone aside, you only see pubic hair, not genitalia. A penis, flaccid or erect, is genitalia. So I don't necessarily see a double-standard in that regard.

Heh, I just realized if you extended the "pubic hair" only deal to men, actors could only do scenes like the one in Silence of the Lambs.

ltfire
02-17-2004, 04:29 PM
Since when can you pee out of an erect penis?

Ah, itís just semantics.
Hows about you pee all over your bathroom mirror, and it cascades down onto your shoes. Better?
A male is quite capable of peeing with an erection. If itís before an orgasm, acrobatics is factored in. If itís after the orgasm, there will be a slight delay while one switch closes and another switch opens. Iím sure a urologist could explain it better.

Neidhart
02-19-2004, 08:18 PM
Ah, it’s just semantics.
Hows about you pee all over your bathroom mirror, and it cascades down onto your shoes. Better?
A male is quite capable of peeing with an erection. If it’s before an orgasm, acrobatics is factored in. If it’s after the orgasm, there will be a slight delay while one switch closes and another switch opens. I’m sure a urologist could explain it better.

I didn't know that. The one time I tried, only a few drops came out and I got a heck of an ache down there, as if I were making my equipment do something it wasn't designed for.

Richard Pearse
02-20-2004, 07:11 AM
I didn't know that. The one time I tried, only a few drops came out and I got a heck of an ache down there, as if I were making my equipment do something it wasn't designed for.

Don't you have to do it every morning? Am I the only one who has to do the "flying superman" and pee out of an erection every morning?

Eolbo
02-20-2004, 07:31 AM
Don't you have to do it every morning? Am I the only one who has to do the "flying superman" and pee out of an erection every morning?

Nope, many a morn I too have also had to "fly" to get the damn angle right ;)

Its a bit harder (no pun intended!) to pee with an erection but certainly possible.

Evil Captor
02-20-2004, 07:32 AM
I really don't think it is. It's not an area that's seen as often as legs and armpits. I think shaving it is creepy because I've heard that a man that likes a shaved vaginal area is interested in its.... "youthfulness".

Speaking as a man who likes 'em shaved, it's not the "youthfulness" it's the NAKEDNESS. And the smoothness. Hair just gets in the way.

Richard Pearse
02-20-2004, 07:46 AM
Ah yes I meant to address that as well. Shaved is good because it feels smooth and sexy, also you don't suffer from hair-on-tongue. Personally totally shaved is not really a turn-on, just trimmed in front and shaved underneath.

Little Plastic Ninja
02-20-2004, 02:16 PM
Ah yes I meant to address that as well. Shaved is good because it feels smooth and sexy, also you don't suffer from hair-on-tongue. Personally totally shaved is not really a turn-on, just trimmed in front and shaved underneath.

*winces*...

Sorry. I'm not exactly a klutz, but a sharp little razor THAT CLOSE to my holiest of holies kinda gives me the shivers, ya know? Sounds like a medieval torture method.

*goes off to walk funny for a while...*

silenus
02-20-2004, 04:16 PM
"Flying Superman!" LOL!!! That is the best descriptor I have ever heard for the phenomenon.

Of course, you can always do what I do when that happens....walk back into the bedroom and ask my SO to "help me with my problem."

The withering look is usually enough to cause things to droop. She really doesn't need to flick it with her fingernail.........

:D

Skywatcher
02-20-2004, 04:34 PM
"Flying Superman"? Getting your SO to cool you off? Did it not occour to you guys to simply decrease the distance required? Or are your bathroom floors to disgusting to contemplate kneeling on them?

Richard Pearse
02-20-2004, 06:05 PM
The problem that I have is the angle. Mine points about 45 degrees up and can't be pointed anywhere near the right direction without the possibility of breaking it :eek:.

Ruby
02-20-2004, 08:44 PM
Not to hijack this old dog any further, but what about the final scene in Boogie Nights. I have seen many a member on cable but was shocked to see one in a movie my mom could rent at Blockbuster!
:eek:

Richard Pearse
02-20-2004, 08:55 PM
I suspect that because it wasn't a real penis it was less contraversial to put it in the movie.

Tars Tarkas
02-20-2004, 08:57 PM
Ken Park has 4 erect penises (as well as others), women grabbing the penises, men grabbing the penises, a full masturbation scene to ejaculation (which you see), and tounge on vagina action. It is the most graphic non-porn film i've seen