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Mangetout
12-30-2003, 07:38 AM
I braved the elements the other day and dug some Jerusalem Artichokes from my allotment; I decided to use them along with some potatoes, so I did this:
Butter a casserole dish
Add a layer of sliced potatoes (maybe 3mm slices)
Add a layer of shaved parsnip (shaved thinly with a vegetable peeler)
Add a layer of shaved artichoke (ditto)
Sprinkle of grated cheddar
repeat layers x 3
Add a cup and a half of milk
Cover and bake in a hot oven until tender, then take the lid off and bake/grill until the top goes crispy and golden.
It was really great as the potato component of a meal and everyone loved it, but I want to work it into something truly amazing - I'm thinking about adding a little garlic and herbs.
Any suggestions? What would you do to this basic recipe to make it really special?
Athena
12-30-2003, 07:50 AM
The obvious enhancement would be to use cream instead of milk. More fat = more yummy goodness. Warm up the cream in a saucepan and whisk in whatever cheese you're using to make a sauce rather than layers. Unless you want layers that is.
I'd also experiment with different cheeses. Herbed or garlicy goat cheese comes to mind. A smoked cheese might be nice as well.
Kalhoun
12-30-2003, 07:58 AM
Garlic would definitely be wonderful in this dish. I'd also consider working sour cream into the mixture. And maybe green onion.
Lissla Lissar
12-30-2003, 08:21 AM
Sauteed mushrooms and garlic, in some butter or duck fat. Duck fat is perfect with potatoes. Oh, and do the cream thing. And then jog or something.
Carnac the Magnificent!
12-30-2003, 08:25 AM
I'd use these 3 cheeses: cheddar, gruyere and provolone. Equal amounts, grated.
Next, sautee 1 diced onion in a skillet with 2-3 T. butter until transluscent, and then throw in 2 cloves of fresh minced garlic. Add sea salt and fresh cracked pepper. Add this to your mixture.
Herb/spicewise, you could consider marjoram, rosemary, or tarragon. Parseley as a garnish.
What kind of potatoes are you using?
An Arky
12-30-2003, 08:26 AM
Definitely Garlic. Lots of Black Pepper and maybe some Thyme?
don't ask
12-30-2003, 08:48 AM
That is a very clever recipe and I would advise caution. Garlic is I fancy to big a taste for artichokes - I never use them together.
You obviously lack anything of the onion/garlic family. I'd pick the smarter brother of the onion - the leek. Milder and more subtle and a dab hand at cooperating with bacon and chicken. Slivers of fennel will work well (check for taste you may want little or none).
Herbs and the like should be added to the fluid you pour over and tasted. I would recommend cinammon or nutmeg (not much) and chervil for a green herb. French seeded mustard and a little beer works well. A splash of sour cream will thicken it a little.
With bacon and/or chicken shredded through it you will have a mean snack.
In general terms 3 cheeses are better than one.
Duck fat is a gift from God for sauteeing.
Take care, that's a delicate little flower. I do something similar (with what I said above) but never thought of artichoke. Maybe zuchini flowers will be next.
don't ask
12-30-2003, 08:54 AM
I'll just add that I used to cook my casseroles like you do but discovered by fluke that they are usually better if the potato is par-boiled first and the cooking time reduced. The other vegetables are fresher and the sauce seems lighter.
Kalhoun
12-30-2003, 09:14 AM
I second the use of leek over onion, if it's available. I also like the shallot. Mmmm....bacon. Maybe you could serve them in little pastry shells on New Year's Eve? Or maybe make puff pastry out of this wonderful concoction.
don't ask
12-30-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by Kalhoun
Or maybe make puff pastry out of this wonderful concoction.
Are we beginning to talk pie......mmmmmmmmmmmm.
Mangetout
12-30-2003, 09:24 AM
Mmmmmmm.
Great suggestions so far, keep 'em coming.
I have some duck fat from our Christmas roast - perhaps I'll grease the dish with it.
I also have some cooked chicken wings that I could shred the meat from and add in layers.
Leeks would be good as the parsnip and artichoke both have a sweetness that would be set off nicely by the tang of a little leek.
Perhaps only a tiny touch of garlic.
I like the nutmeg suggestion - I love the stuff but I seldom get to eat it as my wife has adverse reactions to it (actually, I think it's that she's hypersensitive to Sulphur Dioxide, which is used to preserve whole nutmegs), but she is away for a few days.
What about roasted red peppers (where you burn them with a flame, then put them in a plastic bag to sweat, then rub the charred skin away)?
I'm aware that adding too great a diversity of ingredients will spoil the dish - maybe the red peppers would be better suited to the idea of serving it in pastry.
AskNott
12-30-2003, 10:33 AM
I'd go with thin-sliced celery in with the middle layer. Then, chopped fresh rosemary on top, with a wee bit of curry powder.
Khadaji
12-30-2003, 01:06 PM
Onion and garlic both would really add.
Chefguy
12-30-2003, 02:49 PM
Careful with the rosemary. While I love it on roasted potatoes, you've got some subtle flavors at work here with the artichoke. I would suggest a small amount of fresh thyme leaves, particularly if you decide to add chicken to the dish.
Another great option would be fennel.
Beadalin
12-30-2003, 02:50 PM
If you want something milder than onions or garlic, but stronger than leek, you might consider shallots. Maybe even carmelize some thinly-sliced shallots in butter, then add a layer of them to your dish.
For herbs, I am a fan of rosemary with potatoes. Used sparingly, you could add that wonderful flavor without overwhelming your artichoke.
Beadalin
12-30-2003, 02:54 PM
You might also consider replacing the cheddar with asiago, or (if you're feeling bold) just straight-up adding asiago to your recipe. I have a recipe for asiago potatoes (made with baby red steamers) that is excellent -- the flavor blends very well with potato and herbs.
hroeder
12-30-2003, 03:09 PM
Skip the parsnips and the artichokes. Get rid of the milk. Use cheddar cheese. . .oops that's just augrautin potatoes. . .In a Homer Simpson voice: "Uhmmmmm Au Grautin Potatoes!"
Dr_Paprika
12-30-2003, 03:13 PM
Add leek, bacon, rosemary. Use cream instead of milk, or substitute the milk and cheese for Mexican Velveeta. OW! STOP THAT!
Iteki
12-30-2003, 03:17 PM
If garlic is too strong to add with the artichokes, would pre-roasted garlic work? I often throw a few garlics into a roasting pan with a little oil to roast (in their skins) and then squeeze out the soft mush that results from an hours baking. It is very, very mild and utterly fantastic, I use it like butter on toast. Could that work, squeezed into the cream and stirred before being added? Or would it still be too overpowering?
photopat
12-30-2003, 04:13 PM
It all sounds good, although I'l leave out the red peppers. I like the idea of a little garlic and three different cheeses. I'd suggest goat, mozzarella and Irish cheddar. Use la little less goat and a little more mozzarella.
Also mix some fresh ground pepper with the garlic.
Maybe sprinkle dill weed on top before the final browning.
Tapioca Dextrin
12-30-2003, 05:06 PM
I wouldn't go with garlic - but adding some freshly grated nutmeg to the milk would be a good addition
don't ask
12-30-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Iteki
If garlic is too strong to add with the artichokes, would pre-roasted garlic work? I often throw a few garlics into a roasting pan with a little oil to roast (in their skins) and then squeeze out the soft mush that results from an hours baking. It is very, very mild and utterly fantastic, I use it like butter on toast. Could that work, squeezed into the cream and stirred before being added? Or would it still be too overpowering?
That is a very clever idea. I throw cloves in with roasts and squeeze out the mush to thicken the gravy. It is really mild and flavoursome, takes off that garlic bite.
Lynn Bodoni
12-31-2003, 02:53 AM
I'd DEFINITELY go with something from the onion family. Perhaps add a little chicken broth? I'm not sure about the mushrooms, you've already got a fancy ingredient with the artichoke.
While I think that potatoes and cheddar cheese are wonderful together, potatoes and PARMESAN cheese are also great. Parmesan also works very nicely with artichokes, so perhaps you might consider substituting Parmesan for cheddar.
I'd go with thin sliced celery, a little chicken base dissolved in the milk (we get this stuff in a jar that we keep in the fridge, it's not as salty as bullion cubes and has a much better flavor), and something from the onion family. I really think that the roasted peppers would be too much, as would the mushrooms. I'm uncertain about crispy bacon bits, they might overwhelm this dish.
I bet this would be WONDERFUL as a side dish for a chicken or pork entree. In fact, I might have to try it out soon.
Where's a "smacking lips" smilie when you need it?
Mangetout
12-31-2003, 04:55 AM
I tried it last night with a little garlic and herbs and some sliced celery (which some people have subsequently suggested) - it was good.
The shredded chicken in it was OK, but not spectacularly good.
I also added a dash of sherry before pouring on the milk and that worked well too.
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