View Full Version : What's your annual salary divided by your SAT score?
Hyperelastic
02-02-2004, 01:17 PM
Inspired by this thread (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=237556), I got to thinking about the relationship between SAT score and salary. Please post your annual salary divided by your total SAT score (verbal plus math). You don't have to give the raw data unless you want to. I'm also interested in years of experience in your present field, where you went to school, and your occupation.
If, like me, you took the SAT before the "great recentering", you can adjust your scores using this table (http://www.collegeboard.com/sat/cbsenior/equiv/rt019019.html). If you get a high ratio, you're either overpaid or doing more with less. If you get a low ratio, you're either underpaid or were a philosophy major, or both.
I'll go first.
$62.55 per point, 12 years of experience, went to Ohio State, aerospace engineering.
plasticbryan
02-02-2004, 01:26 PM
$43.30, 8 years experience, Miami Univ, Marketing
summerjack
02-02-2004, 01:29 PM
$66.66 per point
Civil Engineer
Orange County, CA
mlerose
02-02-2004, 01:30 PM
$23.57 per point, UC Berkeley, victim of dot-bomb economy just post-graduation.
3.5 years' experience of being overworked and underpaid.
Who_me?
02-02-2004, 01:33 PM
Undefined... never took the SAT, or the ACT or any test of that ilk.
I took a couple of years off after high school, then went to community college to get back into academia.
JohnM
02-02-2004, 01:42 PM
$72.11/point, 18 years experience, West Virginia Univ., Computer Science
jeevwoman
02-02-2004, 01:50 PM
An even $31 per point, 10 years out of undergrad (and 8 out of grad), Trenton State College, English major (linguistics in grad school)
lightingtool
02-02-2004, 01:51 PM
$39.46 per point, about 5 years experience, University of Vermont, Theatrical Technician
DeVena
02-02-2004, 01:52 PM
about $40/point - (I took the ACT and had to guesstimate)
14 years experience - Government drone
DeVena
02-02-2004, 01:55 PM
<sigh> Those buttons are too close together. Sorry for the double post.
about $40/point - (I took the ACT and had to guesstimate)
14 years experience (Government drone), Livingston University, Environmental Science
aerodave
02-02-2004, 01:59 PM
$36.50 per point
Aerospace Engineer, West Virginia University
2 years experience -- Federal government
Dayton, OH
silenus
02-02-2004, 02:00 PM
$42.46 a point, 17 years experience, high school teacher.
krisolov
02-02-2004, 02:10 PM
$39.55/point, telecom project manager, UMass Amherst (BA Soviet & East European Studies), 4 years experience in this career, which is my second (13 yrs exp in my previous one)
NicePete
02-02-2004, 02:17 PM
$44.01 -- 12 years experience as an Attorney.
Cheesesteak
02-02-2004, 02:18 PM
$43.05, 7yrs experience, corporate finance. Oh, I also have an MBA.
ultrafilter
02-02-2004, 02:20 PM
$35.15 per point, 1.5 years experience, math/CS, University of Virginia, very high SAT score.
ataraxy22
02-02-2004, 02:22 PM
another depressing thread I don't know why I read, let alone respond to:
$34.78/point
2+ years post-Ph.D. in biochemistry, still a Postdoctoral fellow.
Airblairxxx
02-02-2004, 02:27 PM
$38.19 per point
Graduated UCLA w/ degree in English
5 yrs experience in something totally unrelated to literature
I assume that the "Great Recentering" took place in 2000, based on your linked table?
vibrotronica
02-02-2004, 02:28 PM
$19.41
I'm a writer. :(
Lsura
02-02-2004, 02:34 PM
As of right now? $3.62/point. But I'm a grad student with an incredibly low income right now.
If I go to my last salary at a full time job, I was at $29.39/point.
I win! (or lose?)
$0 per point! I'm a stay at home mom...no income. I did get a pretty good SAT score though (1350) and I have a BA in Secondary English Education from the University of Maryland, College Park.
lisacurl
02-02-2004, 03:08 PM
Somewhere around $29 per point. I can't figure it comfortably with the scale adjustments.
I was an English lit major and psych minor who's now a UNIX sysadmin. Considering the amount of alcoholism I managed to fit into four years of college, I think I'm doing remarkably well.
Darwin's Finch
02-02-2004, 03:18 PM
If I maxed on the SAT, my ratio would not be less than $48/point. If I scored minimum, it would be ~$190/point. As I didn't take it at all, however, it's undefined, like Who_me?'s. B.A. from UC Berkeley in Biology, 5+ years working in I.T. as an "applications analyst".
jeevmon
02-02-2004, 03:21 PM
$134.75, seven years experience as a trademark/ copyright attorney.
smcio
02-02-2004, 03:23 PM
I think I have one of the lowest: 3.7/point. I'm still in high school and making about a dollar over minimum wage. ($5200/1420)
TeaElle
02-02-2004, 03:23 PM
I'm retired now, but immediately before, I was earning $68.35/point.
That was as a VP of Human Resouces with a law degree. The company treated me very well. :)
Pablito
02-02-2004, 03:40 PM
$41.21 per point; 7 years experience at current job; Davidson College, then an MA and then a PhD in literature (current job is totally unrelated to degrees).
How about this scale: divide current salary by number of years of post-secondary education? For me, let's see, that's a measly $6,100 per year.
Or salary divided by number of degrees: $20,300.
RotorHead
02-02-2004, 03:43 PM
Hmmm. This won't be as good as it should be, because I was sick when i took the SAT, and should have been at home in bed. But here goes:
My last salaried job as a project safety manager and architechtural superintendant for a construction management firm: $30.74
After quitting to become a pilot, and working as a flight instructor: $7.40
Current, based on the business project I am working on, and extrapolated out, since I only started in January: $45.19
Jackknifed Juggernaut
02-02-2004, 03:52 PM
$68.70 per point. 5 Years experience in Corporate Finance. Rice MBA.
mercaptan
02-02-2004, 04:34 PM
$44.24 per point, 18 years past Ivy League liberal-arts BA, controls manager for a electric utility project group (six years in this field.) The thing I studied which has been extremely useful was contract law.
Ringo
02-02-2004, 05:12 PM
$91.91/point; B.A. from The University of Texas; 23 years experience; geophysicist.
jk1245
02-02-2004, 05:25 PM
$51.49 / pt (estimated). I took the ACT, not the SAT, so had to convert.
BS in Biochem and MBA (both from the Univ of Wisconsin).
10 years in my field, sort of. I changed paths when I got my MBA, from the bench to business development.
Baldwin
02-02-2004, 05:30 PM
$0 per point, so far this year. About $3 per point, last year.
My peak income was a bit over $40,000, or about $30 per point.
So you see SATs aren't a very good predicter of future success. Just look at the President.
VunderBob
02-02-2004, 05:41 PM
$51.6/point, with an adjusted score.
Beadalin
02-02-2004, 05:43 PM
Wow.
If I adjust my scores for the "recentering," I make $28.80 per point.
Six years experience (in web development and marketing communications), Drake University with Public Relations major.
Ringo
02-02-2004, 05:44 PM
Dubya comes in at $313.48.
c_carol
02-02-2004, 05:47 PM
$11.84 here. Temp customer service worker, desperately hoping for a real job. Got a 1520 on the SAT, fat lot of good it did me. :)
sinjin
02-02-2004, 06:10 PM
$74.07 15 years Engineering college prof.
Unintentionally Blank
02-02-2004, 06:23 PM
$52.44 per point, Colorado State University, BSCE
went directly into programming, then webmastering, now internet securitying (er, english was lower than math. ;) )
That was about 13 years ago.
Kilvert's Pagan
02-02-2004, 06:31 PM
$90.23 (after recentering)
CIO of an insurance company
23 years
BS in Finance and 6 hours remaining on an MS in IS/Acctg
GingerOfTheNorth
02-02-2004, 06:32 PM
$0.
I didn't take SATs, being a pesky Canadian, and all.
Daikona
02-02-2004, 07:03 PM
Currently? About 90 cents. I'm a substitute teacher's aide, it's the only work I've found in 6 months of looking.
If the position I had last summer had been full time? $7.33
1500 SATs. Look at how much it helps.
Sublight
02-02-2004, 07:06 PM
$53.13
Harvard, History, Advertising, 2 years (following 4 years of teaching and 3 years of tech writing)
UncleBill
02-02-2004, 07:42 PM
$47.62 (adjusted SAT)
Duke University, BSCE
Packaging Manager, 12 years in packaging
I had never seen that "adjusted" table, wow!
Bill H.
02-02-2004, 09:27 PM
Ringo wrote
Dubya comes in at $313.48.
Uh, according to Cecil (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010622.html), Bush had a combined SAT of 640+640=1280. Which makes his score here 200,000/1,280 = $156.25/point. Off by a factor of two. Which of course opens you up for the obvious joke asking "who's the real one inflating their math SAT score here," but I won't go there.
And not to be harsh, but Bush (or any other holder of his role) is well underpaid by market standards.
Melandry
02-02-2004, 09:34 PM
$9.80/point. But I'm in grad school getting my PhD right now, so that's not unexpected.
racinchikki
02-02-2004, 10:19 PM
$7.68/point.
Ringo
02-02-2004, 10:36 PM
Bill, AFAICT the President's current salary is $400,000.
Erika
02-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Somewhere around $11 per point.
grad student/teaching assistant.
elfkin477
02-02-2004, 11:00 PM
$8.85 which shows that the job market in this state is pitiful. (if the only job I can find was full time year round, it'd be about $17, but that's not saying much)
I like this recentering thing. 670 looks more impressive than 610. I still don't even come close to 500 in math with the bonus points, though. Does anyone else wonder how'd they do if they took the test again now?
Sublight
02-02-2004, 11:13 PM
Uh, according to Cecil (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010622.html), Bush had a combined SAT of 640+640=1280. Which makes his score here 200,000/1,280 = $156.25/point. Off by a factor of two. Which of course opens you up for the obvious joke asking "who's the real one inflating their math SAT score here," but I won't go there.
And not to be harsh, but Bush (or any other holder of his role) is well underpaid by market standards.
Actually, Ringo's correct, or at least pretty close. The salary for POTUS has been increased (I don't know when) to US$390,000, which brings his per-point salary to $304.69
Quiz: the US Presidency (see question 10) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3403467.stm)
mouthbreather
02-03-2004, 12:27 AM
$44.63 per point.
Software configuration and testing, 6 yrs experience.
msmith537
02-03-2004, 10:25 AM
about $53 per point.
Management Consultant - NYC
vibrotronica
02-03-2004, 11:17 AM
I just consulted the recentering table. The good news is my verbal score translates to a perfect 800 in the new reckoning. The bad news my per point average drops to $18.51.
self esteem...falling...
Squooshed
02-03-2004, 12:47 PM
Straight salary would be $78.13 per point. With bonus, its $95.00 per point.
Attorney, 7 years of practice
Harvard B.A. in Government
Hello Again
02-03-2004, 01:16 PM
Price per point: $25.
Location: Midwest
Industry: Retail
Job: I work in Marketing, but actually I'm on a Creative team so I'm really more of a Copywriter than a Marketeer.
Experience: 3 years (following a couple years doing this n' that after college)
School: The College of William & Mary
Major: Anthropology
Bill H.
02-03-2004, 04:28 PM
Ringo wrote
Bill, AFAICT the President's current salary is $400,000.
Why it shore nuff (approximately) is. My apologies.
Signed in by Mr. Clinton Dec 21, 2001, I'm surprised it didn't get more press. (Or, I suppose it's more likely I didn't read about it, barely literate as I am).
Enginerd
02-03-2004, 05:13 PM
$32.50/point in Reno, Nevada.
Environmental Engineering degree from Cornell University with 7 years experience. I do environmental restoration work, and the non-profit sector isn't particularly kind to that number.
FallFast
02-03-2004, 05:31 PM
$70.42 per point without bonus
BS in Business from CSUN
Currently IT Manager of App Dev for an Ins Co.
Eva Luna
02-03-2004, 05:37 PM
I gained 30 points on the recentering. Before recentering, $40.88. After, $39.44.
14 years in the full-time workforce, if you take out the time I was in grad school. Almost 5 years in current field (immigration paralegal), although some previous work was semi-related. Undergrad: NYU, Spanish major. Grad, Indiana U., Russian & East European Studies. Liberal arts all the way!
jsc1953
02-03-2004, 05:59 PM
$86.20 (recentered).
Systems Analyst, 28 years exp. BA (Comp Sci) from Berkeley.
I had no idea geophysicists made such good bux.
Jammer
02-03-2004, 07:38 PM
$74.62 (Recentered, salary only)
BS Computer Science, Appalachian State Univ
16 years experience
Managing consultant with a small IT consulting firm
Jammer
Rysler
02-03-2004, 09:56 PM
$25.
Not recentered, because I took my test after the recentering (Sorry).
1 year experience, Masters in Library Science from UNC, B.A. Political Science from Guilford, corporate librarian in the nonprofit sector.
Laughing Lagomorph
02-03-2004, 10:04 PM
$52.44 per point. Biologist with a BS from SUNY Buffalo, 17 years experience in my field.
Lamar Mundane
02-03-2004, 10:18 PM
$78.01
B.S. Meteorology, Wisconsin-Madison. I'm in software sales. Never worked a day as a metorologist.
rackensack
02-04-2004, 12:00 AM
$58.22, recentered, straight salary
$61.64, recentered, including bonuses, most recent 12 months
Software consultant, 12 yrs exp.
B.A. English, 3 semesters of Ph.D. program coursework in English lit.
Dogman
02-04-2004, 01:27 AM
My score is $110.55 per point, without bonus. 21 years, accounting, Oregon State University.
To be fair, I turned out to be much better at making good career moves, getting things done and negotiating than taking tests.
ShibbOleth
02-04-2004, 01:41 AM
$93.96 recentered based on last year's W2. This year it will be much lower to zero due to "corporate restructuring", maybe about $30/point. Unless some deals go well, then it could be much higher.
Sublight
02-04-2004, 03:22 AM
Ringo wrote
Why it shore nuff (approximately) is. My apologies.
Signed in by Mr. Clinton Dec 21, 2001, I'm surprised it didn't get more press. (Or, I suppose it's more likely I didn't read about it, barely literate as I am).
Sorry to keep picking at nits, but the presidency had passed from Clinton to Bush well before that date. Is the date off, or was 12/21/01 when it was slated to come into effect?
bienville
02-04-2004, 05:04 AM
$19.41
I'm a writer. :(
$16.00
I'm an actor, should start on some more writing!
Zebra
02-04-2004, 08:34 AM
$31.62
7 years in my current field.
I did go to college but never finished. The area I studied has nothing to do with my current job.
Hyperelastic
02-04-2004, 03:10 PM
I did some statistics for everyone who posted at least $/point based on actual SAT scores so far, excluding the students, who, let's face it, don't count. N=45.
The distribution looks fairly normal, but there is a large standard deviation and a long tail to the right (high $/pt). The mean was $54.09/pt, the median was $44.63/pt, and the standard deviation was $26.56/pt.
Scientific/technical workers: N=17, mean=$57.78/pt, med=$61.64/pt, sd=$19.38/pt
Nonscientific/technical workers (including those who did not give an occupation): N=28, mean=$51.86/pt, median=$43.18/pt, sd=$30.23/pt. The high sd is due to the attorneys and captains of industry on one end and the starving artists on the other end.
For those who attended private colleges, N=10, mean=$47.57/pt, med=$42.73/pt, sd=$20.91/pt.
For those who attended state schools, N=19, mean=$55.95, med=$52.44, sd=$24.74.
The correlation between years of experience and $/pt was poor (R2=0.29). For what it's worth, the best linear fit was $/pt = (2.04 X years of experience) + 33
Overall, jeevmon had the highest ratio, $134.75/pt, while poor c_carol had the lowest, at $11.84/pt. (good luck in that job search) Again, I didn't count the students or those who didn't take the SAT.
jeevwoman
02-04-2004, 03:38 PM
I did some statistics
For those who attended private colleges, N=10, mean=$47.57/pt, med=$42.73/pt, sd=$20.91/pt.
For those who attended state schools, N=19, mean=$55.95, med=$52.44, sd=$24.74.
So that's one for us state schoolers, I suppose. :-)
St. Urho
02-04-2004, 03:51 PM
$21.91/point
B.A.S. UofMinn-Duluth
Brand spankin' new paramedic.
CrazyCatLady
02-04-2004, 05:03 PM
I don't remember my SAT score, exactly, but it was somewhere in the 1500 range. That puts me at $13.84/pt, annually.
BS in biology from the University of Kentucky, five years experience as a veterinary technician
elmwood
02-05-2004, 12:14 PM
$39.16 / SAT point (1983 test, unadjusted (http://www.greenes.com/html/convert.htm)), $1516.12 / ACT point.
Urban planner, AICP certification and nine years of experience.
B.S. Urban and Regional Planning and Analysis, SUNY Buffalo State College
Master of Urban Planning., SUNY University at Buffalo.
I did much better on the ACT than the SAT.
Unfortunately, few people become wealthy by becoming an urban planner.
Spectre of Pithecanthropus
02-05-2004, 12:40 PM
This is going way back for me. But let's see: I'll admit right out that my math score wasn't that great, and my verbal was better; beyond that I just don't remember exactly. But using a ballpark figure, I think I come out at $55.00/point, not including the bonus I got.
My GRE went much, much better. Using those results, with the analytical third omitted, my salary ratio is $47.14.
Make of it what you will.
Spectre of Pithecanthropus
02-05-2004, 12:51 PM
Oh I fogot...
BA, UC San Diego
MLS, UCLA.
susan
02-05-2004, 08:20 PM
35.97 with recentered SATs. I teach at a state university. I went to a private liberal arts college. My highest degree is a doctorate. 37.87 calculated by my GREs. Care to post a formula for Miller Analogies Test scores?
susan
02-05-2004, 08:28 PM
Oh--years of experience: It's hard to count, but
8-ish
3.5 years asst prof including summers, university (Psychology)
3 terms, teaching assistant, community college (career development)
1 term instructor, university (coping skills)
11 summers instructor, institute at university (EFL)
1 semester instructor, college (grammar a/k/a So You Failed the Test of Standard Written English)
1 trimester, instructor, trade university (freshman seminar)
1 year, instructional teaching assistant, university (fiction writing)
Plus a number of years teaching middle and high school T&G, etc.
Bill H.
02-06-2004, 01:19 AM
Sublight wrote
Sorry to keep picking at nits, but the presidency had passed from Clinton to Bush well before that date. Is the date off, or was 12/21/01 when it was slated to come into effect?
Err, make that 12/21/00. Effective 1/1/01.
"For compensation of the President, including an expense allowance at the rate of $50,000 per annum as authorized by 3 U.S.C. 102, $390,000: Provided, That none of the funds made available for official expenses shall be expended for any other purpose and any unused amount shall revert to the Treasury pursuant to section 1552 of title 31, United States Code: Provided further, That none of the funds made available for official expenses shall be considered as taxable to the President." -- as printed in the Congressional Record, December 15, 2000 (Vol. 146, No. 155).
InTransit
02-06-2004, 03:19 PM
$98.12, uncentered because I can't remember the breakdowns of verbal and math. I'm surprised I remember the score at all.
UC Berkeley, 6 years lawyer.
Matchka
02-06-2004, 06:34 PM
$34.62 BA English, Whitman College, WA (15 years ago) 2 yrs claim rep, 8 years total in Insurance; 4 years Army; 3 years drunk chimney sweep
Cabana Boy
02-06-2004, 07:49 PM
This is an interesting thread. Here's mine.
About $89/point (recentered) without bonuses.
Just over $100/point (last year) with bonuses.
Now if some more of those stock options would dry out ...
BSEE, MSCS. 18 years experience.
Engineering manager, semiconductor biz.
Angel of the Lord
02-06-2004, 10:22 PM
$17/point. 2 weeks experience. I'm temping during my job search.
HomerIU
02-07-2004, 07:45 PM
I fair much better on this scale than on the SAT results. About $115 per point, BS Biology Indiana University and MD from IU School of Medicine.
I voted for the man, but I even I can't believe that I scored the same as Bush on the SATs.
CanvasShoes
02-07-2004, 08:16 PM
I never took my SATs, my annual salary (prior to my move to TX and my current state of Unemployment insurance) was between 40 and 45 a year.
So if 40,000 divided by zero is zero.........what does that mean? I make an imaginary salary?
:D
Qadgop the Mercotan
02-07-2004, 08:30 PM
Near as I can figure, mine's in the lower triple digits.
And I certainly outscored Bush!
BA & MD at Johns Hopkins.
JavaMaven1
02-07-2004, 08:35 PM
$19.56 an hour.
Sous Chef for a Catering company, four years experience; studied at a branch of the Le Cordon Bleu.
There ain't any kind of money in the cookin' business.
JavaMaven1
02-07-2004, 08:36 PM
$19.56 an hour.
Er.
I meant $19.56 per point.
CanvasShoes
02-07-2004, 08:53 PM
I never took my SATs, my annual salary (prior to my move to TX and my current state of Unemployment insurance) was between 40 and 45 a year.
So if 40,000 divided by zero is zero.........what does that mean? I make an imaginary salary?
:D
Shoot, I forgot to put my field and my years of experience.
Environmental project manager 6 years, 8 years environmental technicican. 8 Years physical fitness trainer, including 5 years at a university in my previous location.
Wages from instruction didn't add much to the annual income ($928 per credit per semester), but was mainly for fun. Instruction outside the university ranged from $0-$60 an hour depending upon the client (charity performances were of course done free :D).
At any rate, what exactly does the SAT points and the salary per point mean? Those with low SAT points and high wages are overpaid? And those with high SAT but low wages are somehow underpaid?
IMHO, SATs don't have any relation to real life. There's a lot more to "making it" in the real world than your grades.
King Friday
02-08-2004, 02:02 AM
38.78. General aviation refueler.
Blassie
02-08-2004, 07:24 AM
$88.00 per point
17 years (sheesh! can that be right?!)
Attorney
Duke University
GilaB
02-08-2004, 02:22 PM
$15.48/point
I did well on every standardized test I've ever taken, the (recentered) SATs included; it's my great skill in life, and I'm almost sorry that I never have to take one again. I'm in a PhD program in cell bio in New York City, which is about the most well-payed kind of grad student there is, but it's meant to be a stipend, not a salary. So I can eat, pay rent, buy clothes, etc, but I ain't getting rich off of it.
Oh yeah, Barnard College, a year and a half out.
NinetyWt
02-08-2004, 03:06 PM
$50.84 per point, guesstimated from an ACT to SAT conversion table.
15 years experience in Civil Engineering, specifically hydrology & hydraulics. The last two years I've been growing my own company, my "dollar per point" ratio would be higher had I stayed on at the Mega Whopper Engineering Co.
BSCE and MSCE, University of Mississippi.
Sorry to keep picking at nits, but the presidency had passed from Clinton to Bush well before that date. Is the date off, or was 12/21/01 when it was slated to come into effect?
I believe the answer is that a president cannot sign a bill that increases his own salary. Therefore Clinton signed the bill, but Bush was the first to receive the increase.
Back when I planned to go to college, they had something called "College Boards"; SAT was unknown. I believe that the score was also kept a secret from us and only sent to the colleges we listed (that sounds so weird today, I know). So I have no idea what to use for a score. I've been retired for 3 years, so the math is $0.00/x where the value of "x" is unknown. :p
Muad'Dib
02-08-2004, 08:51 PM
WTF!?! -4?
*goes back to do math*
Infovore
02-09-2004, 01:46 PM
$58.39 per point (recentered)
Software technical writer, 15 years experience
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, BA Political Science
FilmGeek
02-09-2004, 02:13 PM
I feel like a loser. :(
I took the ACT but estimated my SAT scores.
I get $6.98. (which is slightly less than my hourly wage)
If I were in the Union (IATSE) and working semi-regularly (one week a month on average over a year) I would be making more like $15.50 per point.
Tenebras
03-14-2004, 09:43 PM
$11.89/point.
Math grad student, three years experience. ;)
Gonzaga and Saint Louis Universities for undergrad.
But I guess I don't count, cuz I'm only a student. Grr!
acaveman
03-14-2004, 11:01 PM
I had a 1440 (even) 720 math 720 english
Took it in 1992.
I work for union pacific, and earn 65,000 dollars a year. Could I have made more if I had finished college? Sure.
This is all arbitrary. (I don't spell well. :) )
All in all, the SAT's and ACT's are a crock of shit. I test well but lack the motivation to do much else.
Ok, 65K and whatever I make setting marble tile on the weekends is fine with me. Honestly, I could make more putting in $14 dollar a sq. foot marble in your house. I should but I am lazy.
Test scores mean nothing, ( I have ALWAYS come out 98% on Iowa test of basic skills.) I work at a railroad, set tile on the side, had a 1440 S.A.T., and will still retire by 50. I know plenty of people that didn't go to college and make more than the educated ones.
Common sense rules.
How do you think we score so well on the test?
Philster
03-15-2004, 09:07 AM
$72.40 per point.
Never graduated.
36 years old.
Omnipresent
03-15-2004, 11:04 AM
0
Unemployed (1 3/4 years Network Engineer)
Never took SAT's
ENugent
03-15-2004, 06:48 PM
$97.48
Patent attorney - 2 years full-time and 3 years half-time as patent agent, then 1.5 years as attorney.
SB and PhD from MIT (materials engineering), JD from Harvard
Computer software sales - 120 to 320 a point, depending on what kind of year I'm having.
Took SATs in Sophomore year of HS, scored well, dropped out of high school *immediately*, graduated from Bard, went into computers in the late 70s.
TellMeI'mNotCrazy
03-15-2004, 07:40 PM
#DIV/0!
Whoops.
Never took my SATs.
Currently a Business Analyst/Project Manager for a major financial institution.
sunfish
03-15-2004, 07:45 PM
$32.14/pt, adjusted.
Spent a total of 5 years with a legal publisher, 2 years FT then 3 years PT while I worked on my second B.A. (Hey jeevmon - got any Matthew Bender books on your shelf? :D ) Grad student for 7 years, post-doc for 3 years, now finishing up first year as a FT geologist with a small consulting company.
B.A. (communications), Fordham University
B.A. (geology), Hunter College, CUNY
Ph.D. (geology), Columbia University
Rubystreak
03-15-2004, 09:14 PM
$27.08/SAT point. Middle school English teacher, 4 yrs. experience. Check out my ratio and make the usual commentary about teacher salaries...
Rubystreak
03-15-2004, 09:15 PM
Oh, and forgot to mention, that's with a BS from Cornell and two Masters degrees from Binghamton. I really took a beating on those, huh? :p
Johanna
03-15-2004, 09:34 PM
I took my SAT so many years ago, I can't remember what it was.
NoCoolUserName
03-15-2004, 09:39 PM
SAT scores: I don't know my individual scores, so I had to divide by 2, then adjust, then add back together. That's an estimate, folks!
Ratio: On that scale, I'm at about $75 per.
College + experience: I dropped out of college to go on the rock & roll road, then went back to get my degree, then quit to do music again, then went back into business. Total computer geek experience, about 12 years, total R&R experience about 12 years, too. My major before I dropped out was Math/Physics. My degree is a BS in Business.
schplebordnik
03-15-2004, 10:52 PM
$97.48
Patent attorney - 2 years full-time and 3 years half-time as patent agent, then 1.5 years as attorney.
SB and PhD from MIT (materials engineering), JD from Harvard
I'm a patent attorney too. My annual take flucuates, but based on '02 AGI, I'm in at $105/SAT point (adjusted to current numbers per the table).
But I've just got the BS & JD (plus an unrelated MA), with 15.5 years of experience.
Risha
03-15-2004, 11:42 PM
~$48.28 per point, depending on how my bonuses come out this year, using the adjusted numbers. (I've never actually seen the chart before - I would have had an 800 verbal if I had been born a few years later?!? No fair!)
Graduated from Alfred University in 1998 with a BS in Management (MIS concentration), Comp Sci minor. Five+ years as... a pretty straightforward job that's hard to sum up into a nice little title. You could probably call me a combination programmer / benefits analyst / client team tech manager for a major HR outsourcing company.
iamme99
03-16-2004, 02:57 AM
0 right now (umm, "between engagements" ;) )
Last full year I worked = 66.88
Career best = 165.22
Software sales
B.S. CompSci
LtningBug
03-16-2004, 03:18 AM
$51 per point. About 2 years experience in software development. BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering at Univ. CO. in Boulder.
iampunha
03-16-2004, 04:57 AM
$3.55 per point. I'm not salaried but per hour, so I figured that the past three weeks will be more average than the first four weeks were, when I was just starting to get hours. Plus I test extremely well for being apathetic (1350, so you can figure out my projected yearly if you're bored).
When I get into grade school teaching, I should be "charging" about $22 per point. Meantime, anyone who wants to make donations to the iampunha scholarship and general well-being fund is more than welcome:D
Philster
03-16-2004, 08:22 AM
If some of you folks deducted cost of college, college, more college, graduate school and so on, would you still be a 'plus' anything?!
It's depressing to see some people who've poured mind numbimg numbers of hours into educations and not set the world on fire.
ContumeliousBob
03-16-2004, 09:44 AM
:(
Gots 1300. -> "ajusted" -> 710+650 =1360.
Makes $8500.
Gots a B.A. in German Language and Literature.
Currently 'stuck' in college job, only allowed to work part-time.
Plan on taking over the world. :D
SilentButDeftly
03-16-2004, 11:48 AM
Base salary: $24.58/point
salary + bonuses: $106.76/point
Lordy lordy I loves my job! :)
Data Analyst/programmer at a financial software company, 2 years experience
BS in Economics, MIT
AZCowboy
03-16-2004, 08:51 PM
$94 (not recentered)
$88 (best guess of recentered - don't remember my math/verbal breakdown)
Both are base salary only.
16 years experience in telecom/data networking
BS Management Science, Georgia Tech
sunfish
03-16-2004, 09:28 PM
If some of you folks deducted cost of college, college, more college, graduate school and so on, would you still be a 'plus' anything?!
It's depressing to see some people who've poured mind numbimg numbers of hours into educations and not set the world on fire.
If I hadn't had a full fellowship for my grad school, it's unlikely I would ever have finished my Ph.D. I just didn't have the financial resources to get by on partial TA-ships and the like that I was offered from some of the other universities I applied to.
That said... I think that for many people who go on for advanced degrees, money isn't the prime motivator - love of the field is. I consider myself lucky to have figured out early on that my job was sucking the life out of me and I needed to try for something I could enjoy doing for the rest of my life. It's been tough at times but I have no regrets. And while we can't all set the world on fire, I've already got one paper that's liable to be cited for a long time by others in my field, so I think I'm doing okay. :)
Tenebras
03-17-2004, 12:25 AM
If some of you folks deducted cost of college, college, more college, graduate school and so on, would you still be a 'plus' anything?!
It's depressing to see some people who've poured mind numbimg numbers of hours into educations and not set the world on fire.
This gives me a brilliant idea... if I add in my tuition waver and fee fellowship, I jump up to a mind-blowing $17.40 per. That's about a 50% increase, which in my book ain't too shabby.
And from what I hear, they're raising fees next year (Damn you, Gubernator!) so if I still get my fees, it'll go up even more. Oh happy happy day...
$36.23 -- Sysadmin BS Computer Science & Physics 1 year (On an unrelated note I've worked 16 hours today and I'm salaried ... anyone want to trade?)
chaoticbear
03-31-2004, 10:18 PM
hmm, ACT = 34, which equals 1500 sat?
Then... 3.88 per point. McDonald's, 3 years.
pasunejen
04-01-2004, 01:36 AM
$0! College student, chose volunteering in my field over a crap job that would bring in actual cash.
Nothing in the bank, and headed for five (hopefully only five. Please, Og, only five) years of grad school. This should be interesting.
GomiBoy
04-01-2004, 04:57 AM
$80 per point, what with the exchange rate. Software geek, work in London, 5 years experience
And I was sick that day, too :)
GomiBoy
Sami41
04-01-2004, 05:36 AM
about $40/point - (I took the ACT and had to guesstimate)
14 years experience - Government drone
What's the conversion ACT to SAT? I took the ACT (28 out of ???). Can anyone help, I'm curious. Thanks ~S
chaoticbear
04-01-2004, 06:51 AM
What's the conversion ACT to SAT? I took the ACT (28 out of ???). Can anyone help, I'm curious. Thanks ~S
Given that max ACT = 36 and max SAT= 1600, set up proportion, about a 1244.
Hmm, when I actually do that instead of saying "oh, that sounds right for mine," I come up with a 1510
divemaster
04-01-2004, 06:55 AM
How the heck do y'all remember your SAT scores? That was high school!
Anyway, I calculated it using my GRE Verbal + Math.
53.6.
Ecologist (doing biological analysis for the Federal gov.)
LSU (B.S.) and UNCW (M.S.)
6 years exp.
I think my SAT score was a little lower, so that would raise the ratio somewhat.
Sami41
04-01-2004, 07:32 AM
Given that max ACT = 36 and max SAT= 1600, set up proportion, about a 1244.
Hmm, when I actually do that instead of saying "oh, that sounds right for mine," I come up with a 1510
Thanks, chaoticdonkey. 1244? Man, I'm a brick :) . Or, I was.
To the question at hand--
$28/per point, give or take $2 per point (I don't keep very close track of tips)
College dropout (33 credits, Accounting, NMSU)
Almost 9 years tending bar, just over 3 years managing said bar.
~S
merge
04-01-2004, 07:42 AM
I don't like this thread.... well... I do like the idea, I just need to make more money.. (don't we all?)
Currently I am at $28.40 per point. Systems Admin, 5 years experience
Seton Hall University.
I did also take the SAT's in the 7th grade.
If I use my score from the 7th grade, I am up to $48.55
If only I could take that ratio and apply it to my high school SAT score.... I would be doing ok...
larsenmtl
04-01-2004, 01:53 PM
32.7, BA Poly Sci, Maryland, 4 years, Administrative Assistant
Back to school -->
40.9, BS Comp Sci, Villa Julie College, 6 months, Programmer/Statistics
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