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Starguard
05-11-2004, 02:41 AM
For any and every one that has any special knowledge of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, Take a look at THIS ( http://www.tombguard.org/FAQ.html#Is%20it%20true%20they%20cannot%20swear%20in%20public%20for%20the%20rest%20of%20their%20live s?) and tell us what you think of it. Are their any flaws or mis-information involved? If so, please identify each one and cite your reason for it. :dubious:

Starguard
05-11-2004, 02:44 AM
Sorry Moderators, This should have been opened in "Great Debates" :smack:

UncleBill
05-11-2004, 06:21 AM
It all looks legitimate to me, what point do you feel is debatable?

Who_me?
05-11-2004, 07:12 AM
Sorry Moderators, This should have been opened in "Great Debates" :smack:

Why? As UncleBill asked... where's the debate?

Starguard
05-11-2004, 07:37 AM
Why? As UncleBill asked... where's the debate?
I just thought that if anyone finds anything about the cite that wasn't politically correct, ( and I'm sure that someone that knows better than we do undoubtedly will) it could be debated in the proper forum. :o

UncleBill
05-11-2004, 07:56 AM
I am a Marine Officer (IRR, Reserves). I have visited the Tomb of the Unknowns a half dozen times. If you are fishing for the fact that all soldiers are mentioned as males, please come out and say it. There are females in the Guard unit. They have a height restriction of between 5'11" and 6'4" to actually serve as a Guard.

Go on, man, spit it out.

Jinx
05-11-2004, 08:01 AM
...If you are fishing for the fact that all soldiers are mentioned as males, please come out and say it...

She did...just look at her sig line! If this represents how she thinks of all males, then she ought to just remember...it takes two to tango, honey...whereas one can just as easily play solitaire! ;) ...That's the real debate in this post! ;)
- Jinx

JRDelirious
05-11-2004, 09:23 AM
I don't get it either. What's the question or debate? The site, quite obviously, is the FAQ about duty as a TOUS Guard. It's quite to be expected that it will contain motivational language exalting the commitment of those involved, but I see nothing in it that's controversial. Heck, it even contains debunkment of myths about the duty. And if there's some pious guilding of some facts about the rituals, well, that's to be expected.
(Though honestly, if a hurricane's knocking down trees and there's lightning striking, I would infer that a Higher Authority is telling us to at least be ready to hit the ground)

smoke
05-11-2004, 09:56 AM
She did...just look at her sig line! If this represents how she thinks of all males, then she ought to just remember...it takes two to tango, honey...whereas one can just as easily play solitaire! ;) ...That's the real debate in this post! ;)
- Jinx


The joke in Starguard's sig is fresh out of this month's Playboy.

Bricker
05-11-2004, 10:28 AM
Every year on Columbus Day, the Knights of Columbus have an honor guard lay a wreath at the Tomb. The year I was Faithful Navigator (the chief executive of the KofC Fourth Degree unit that assigns the honor guard) my honor guard commander was a retired Army CSM. His son was a former Tomb guard, and, having introduced himself to the OIC, the Knights were given a tour of the quarters beneath the amphitheater where the on-duty guardsmen rest and a presentation about the roles and responsibilities of the Tomb's guards.

So far as I can recall, the information given in the OP's link is correct.

Assuming this was intended for GD and not GQ, the OP should be made aware that the proper way to start a debate is NOT, "Here's a list of claims. Identify any you disagree with."

- Rick

Who_me?
05-11-2004, 10:29 AM
(Though honestly, if a hurricane's knocking down trees and there's lightning striking, I would infer that a Higher Authority is telling us to at least be ready to hit the ground)

I thought I remembered this... During Isabelle, they where ordered to stop and to take cover...


They refused.


Since it appears that every newspaper want to charge for articles that far back, this is the best I could do for a cite.


http://www.cyclequest.com/Vets/Sentry%20Watch.htm

Papermache Prince
05-11-2004, 10:54 AM
From the Arlington Cemetery website: Sgt. Heather Lynn Johnsen (http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/heather-johnsen.htm) was the first - and only, so far - female to serve as a sentinel.Only one other female has volunteered for training as a sentinel, but she ultimately chose to withdraw. Still, Johnsen said she hopes other women will be encouraged by her achievement. "I'd hate to think of myself as the one and only," she said. "I would love to see more female soldiers give it a try and make it."

UncleBill
05-11-2004, 10:57 AM
Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/military/isabel.htm) on the Guards during Isabelle situation (it is true).

Snopes again (http://www.snopes.com/photos/isabel.asp) on the photo of Isabelle and that ship in that linked story by Who_me?, (it is false).

lno
05-11-2004, 01:55 PM
The year I was Faithful Navigator (the chief executive of the KofC Fourth Degree unit that assigns the honor guard) my honor guard commander was a retired Army CSM.Ah, but did you have a white-handled sword?