It's very wrong, and she's very bad, but I find leash girl to be quite attractive

[astro]

I'm vaguely ashamed, but I think Private England is quite cute in a hardcore dykey kind of way.

Pvt England (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040512/capt.w051221a.jpg)

[Tabby_Cat]

:eek:

*Looks at link* :eek:

Just.... :eek:

*checks again* Oh man. :eek:

*backs away slllloowwly*

[nocturnal_tick]

:dubious:


I guess that.....some people have.....unique tastes and.......um, well whatever floats your boat there, [b]astro[b]

[Binarydrone]

[Austin Powers] It’s a man baby! [/Austin Powers]

[UrbanChic]

I think you forgot your glasses again, astro.

[plnnr]

I'm vaguely ashamed, but I think Private England is quite cute in a hardcore dykey kind of way.

Pvt England (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040512/capt.w051221a.jpg)

Only "vaguely ashamed?"

[astro]

Only "vaguely ashamed?"

The lizard brain part of one's mentality governing who you find cute, or not, only has a limited shame capacity.

[Kalhoun]

Well, for starters (at least on the interview I saw), one eyebrow is much heavier than the other. She's got nothing going in the braincell department, i.e., she's doing the stereotypical Kentuckian image a disservice, and she's passing responsibility off to her evil overlords, which doesn't fly in my book.

You have terrible taste in sadists, my friend.

[Eve]

I've seen some cute, Meg Ryan-y headshots of her, but the one you linked to makes her look like Danny from The Partridge Family!

[Mangetout]

Suit yourselves, but personally, I find total fucking idiocy to be quite a turn off, regardless of the body it inhabits.

[oceans_11]

I'm vaguely ashamed, but I think Private England is quite cute in a hardcore dykey kind of way.

Apparently, you're (http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/20802.htm) not the only one.


"She was having sex with numerous partners. It appeared to be consensual," said a lawmaker who saw the photos.

[Hal Briston]

Might I just add:

Gaaaaaa!! :eek:

[lieu]

I think she was thrilled to be at the other end of that leash.

[neuroman]

It's ok astro, more for the rest of us.

[ruadh]

Shit, that's nothing. Anyone else remember the former Doper who thought OBL was hot?

[Sunspace]

Anyone else remember the former Doper who thought OBL was hot? :eek: :eek: :eek:
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
Although in my heart of hearts I know you're not. I've seen just too much bizarre stuff lately to expect that there are any limits anymore...

[lieu]

Yes, yes I do and did she ever catch a rash of shit for that one. I'm not going to mention her name because I just checked and she's still around. Her timing was not good, having expressed that sentiment as people were still reeeling from the shock of the event and supersaturated with outrage.

[Colibri]

I've seen some cute, Meg Ryan-y headshots of her, but the one you linked to makes her look like Danny from The Partridge Family!

Personally, I think it's rather more like Smeagol.

[don't ask]

So that's what "eye of the beholder" means.

[jk1245]

I've seen some cute, Meg Ryan-y headshots of her, but the one you linked to makes her look like Danny from The Partridge Family!


YES! THAT"S WHO IT IS!!

I saw the interview that this shot came from and I kept thinking "Who does she remind me of?" Danny Bonaduce is it exactly.

As for Astro's admission of having a thing for her..... It's not to late to have a mod erase all evidence of this thread.

[ivylass]

I'm vaguely ashamed, but I think Private England is quite cute in a hardcore dykey kind of way.

[Lewis Grizzard]Dayum, brother! I don't know that I would have told that![/LG]

[Evil Captor]

Well, for starters (at least on the interview I saw), one eyebrow is much heavier than the other. She's got nothing going in the braincell department, i.e., she's doing the stereotypical Kentuckian image a disservice, and she's passing responsibility off to her evil overlords, which doesn't fly in my book.

You have terrible taste in sadists, my friend.

I think her evil overlords are due for a truckload of responsibility. Laying it all on the grunts is SOP in the service, but I don't think anybody's buying it except maybe you.

[Zebra]

You know seeing this thread title and the last post by

Evil Captor

is a bit disturbing.

[Khadaji]

To paraphrase Lore (http://www.lorebrandcomics.com/threewords.html), everyone is somebody's fetish.

[astro]

YES! THAT"S WHO IT IS!!

I saw the interview that this shot came from and I kept thinking "Who does she remind me of?" Danny Bonaduce is it exactly.

As for Astro's admission of having a thing for her..... It's not to late to have a mod erase all evidence of this thread.

So what are you so afraid of? Are you afraid that you're not sure of, a love there is no cure for?

[Kalhoun]

I think her evil overlords are due for a truckload of responsibility. Laying it all on the grunts is SOP in the service, but I don't think anybody's buying it except maybe you.
Oh, believe me...I hold the evil overlords responsible -- to an even greater degree. But that doesn't get The Eyebrow Princess off the hook, either. When an evil overlord asks you to do something so blantantly wrong, you say NO. I don't give a flying fuck who they are.

[romansperson]

What I find most disturbing is that this person is going to be a mother in just a few months.

I wonder if they let your kids visit you in Leavenworth.

[plnnr]

[Lewis Grizzard]Dayum, brother! I don't know that I would have told that![/LG]

HA! Damn, I miss Lewis Grizzard.

[Abbie Carmichael]

She's got nothing going in the braincell department, i.e., she's doing the stereotypical Kentuckian image a disservice, and she's passing responsibility off to her evil overlords, which doesn't fly in my book.

Um, wait a minute. She's from Wes ...

er ...

Yeah, Kentucky. Born and raised in Kentucky. Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky.


*walks away quickly, whistling happily that England has been pawned off on another state*

[yosemite]

Yes, yes I do and did she ever catch a rash of shit for that one. I'm not going to mention her name because I just checked and she's still around.
We must be thinking of different people, because the poster I'm thinking of, Lucky, hasn't logged in since 2001.

So, I figured it wouldn't hurt to link to the thread in question. (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=87259)

Speaking for myself, I found it funny more than anything else. I mean, I know that the timing was REALLY bad, but something about it was funny, in a highly perverse kind of way.

[jlzania]

I saw her in a brief news interview and the impression that I got was of a rather stupid, sly woman who had been advised to repeat "Orders from on high,Orders from on high..." whenever she was questioned.
For some reason, she struck me as the sort of person who'd probably get off an leading a man around on a leash and worst.
An all round Ilsa Koch kinda girl.

[ebok47]

Ya know..I think she's kinda cute, too.

somewhat evil and stupid, yes, but cute.

[Kalhoun]

She's got nothing going in the braincell department, i.e., she's doing the stereotypical Kentuckian image a disservice, and she's passing responsibility off to her evil overlords, which doesn't fly in my book.

Um, wait a minute. She's from Wes ...

er ...

Yeah, Kentucky. Born and raised in Kentucky. Kentucky Kentucky Kentucky.


*walks away quickly, whistling happily that England has been pawned off on another state*
Damn! You're right. I was going on Mr. Kalhoun's less-than-accurate info. Consider her hand-delivered back to Wes... (we'll just call it Wes for our purposes here, ok?)

[Nametag]

Danny Bonaduce? I think the photo looks more like Lou Diamond Phillips.

[Revtim]

It's like Danny Bonaduce and Lou Diamond Philips had a son.

[Gatopescado]

It's like Danny Bonaduce and Lou Diamond Philips had a son.

Thanks to this little gag, I now have to explain to my wife how it is that I came to wet my pants at work! :D

[The Green Feather]

I'm vaguely ashamed, but I think Private England is quite cute in a hardcore dykey kind of way.

Pvt England (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/cpress/20040512/capt.w051221a.jpg)That has to be the worst picture of her I've seen so far. I didn't see the interview so I can't comment on that, but there are a couple of pictures that show her to be ... well ... cute! There, I said it!

Oh, and thanks to everyone for the Partridge Family flashback!

[verbenabeast]

dude... I think we need to take up a collection and get my boy astro out to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch or sumthin'... Maybe some good ol' all-american store-bought sex can get THOSE perverted thoughts outta his pore haid!

[Cervaise]

An all round Ilsa Koch kinda girl.Heh. "She-Wolf of the 372nd MP Company." Heh.

[jk1245]

This may be of interest to no one but Astro, but apparently his dainty object of affection iappears in an as yet unreleased sex tape with other soldiers. (http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/20802.htm)

Granted, the NY Post is a weak source, but still I hope it's not true. I have no interest in seeing this teenage boy naked.

[Lobsang]

Pictures of her have appeard on other places I browse and I've just decided - I find her repulsive. despite what she did.

[Gatopescado]

dude... I think we need to take up a collection and get my boy astro out to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch or sumthin'...

I'll pick him up at the airport, put him up in the "guest cottage", drive him up there and even let him take a crack at the sheep if he ain't quite "finished off" at the ranch! Anything to get that thing outta his head!

Some of them sheep are mighty "accomadating" (especially Mathilda), or so I hear. But they're all damn liars, I tell ya!

[Strainger]

Apparently, you're (http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/20802.htm) not the only one.Oh my God. If those are the pictures that haven't been released yet, then let them remain forever hidden from the public.

[dnooman]

If anything, she looks a bit like Reese (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0073678/) from Malcolm in the Middle. I think she's the one that needs a leash on. What an ugly dog.

[dwyr]

Damn! You're right. I was going on Mr. Kalhoun's less-than-accurate info. Consider her hand-delivered back to Wes... (we'll just call it Wes for our purposes here, ok?)



She was born in Ky. but her family moved to WV when she was 2.

So y'all can keep her.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

If I ever get horny enough to want some of that, please shoot me.

[Lucretia]

What I find most disturbing is that this person is going to be a mother in just a few months.

I wonder if they let your kids visit you in Leavenworth.

[Jeff Foxworthy] Somebody slept with that womaan! [/Jeff Foxworthy]

[RTFirefly]

[Jeff Foxworthy] Somebody slept with that womaan! [/Jeff Foxworthy]It apparently was one of the other MPs involved in the abuse. Her family says Spc. Charles Graner is the proud daddy-to-be.

[JRDelirious]

Geez... ah... er... whoa. That's an extraordinarily unfortunate photograph. Dang.

As to Pfc. England as such, well, I could see an appeal to some segments of the population... but that would be a specialty segment. The segment that would patronize something like "Mistress Lyndie's Dungeon of Discipline". Replace the spike-heel knee boots with desert combat boots...


And I'm now wondering if the Army may throw into the pile-on whether she (and Spc. Graner) may have conspired to deliberately get pregnant in order to get out of frontline duty

[Hal Briston]

If anything, she looks a bit like Reese (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0073678/) from Malcolm in the Middle.
I'm thinking more along the lines of Mason Reese (http://www.venice-florida.com/graphics/corwin/corwin13b.jpg).

[Evil Captor]

I think a reprimand and a couple of months in prison max is all England should get, based on what we've seen to date. 15 years in prison for posing for photos under orders from hre chain of command is frickin insane.

[Wartime Consigliori]

[Mickey Gilley]

Yeah, the girls all get prettier at closing time!

[/Mickey Gilley]

Anybody want to bet that she has a flaming skull tattooed to one breast, and "Born to Raise Hell" emblazoned on the other? Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

[Hampshire]

Oh the irony!

A dog walking a human.

[Captain Lance Murdoch]

We know she's brainless toad with no moral compass whatsoever and that can't help but affect our impression of attractive she is. If she had done none of this and we were just to see her picture I'll bet lots of people would think she was attractive.

She has a nice face and a cute mouth (no, that's NOT a Deliverance reference). However, I saw an interview with her and her hair looked like she styled it with a lawn mower.

She's better looking than our newest American, Pamela Anderson.

[Rysler]

I, too, find leash girl attractive... She looks similar to Maren Meinert (http://sportserver.nandomedia.com/ips_rich_content/513-maren.jpg), currently the top female soccer player in the world.

Chipmunk-cheeked, mouth-breathing butches, come!

[Kalhoun]

I'm thinking more along the lines of Mason Reese (http://www.venice-florida.com/graphics/corwin/corwin13b.jpg).
You're freakin' me out, man!

[Kalhoun]

I, too, find leash girl attractive... She looks similar to Maren Meinert (http://sportserver.nandomedia.com/ips_rich_content/513-maren.jpg), currently the top female soccer player in the world.

Chipmunk-cheeked, mouth-breathing butches, come!
I can almost here the both of 'em howlin' at the moon.

[TwistofFate]

Evil Captor, nothing she did was under order. She enjoyed playing the big bully along with the rest of them. It's written all over her face.

[Revtim]

Evil Captor, nothing she did was under order. She enjoyed playing the big bully along with the rest of them. It's written all over her face.Of course, she could have both been ordered to do that stuff, and also enjoyed it.

[Evil Captor]

Of course, she could have both been ordered to do that stuff, and also enjoyed it.

She also may not have even known she would enjoy it, or how much she'd enjoy it, before she got swept into it. In any event, guesses as to her psychological state are just that ... guesses. You really don't know what she was thinking when she was at Abu Ghraib.

[lieu]

That's a face only a muzzle could love.

[Cervaise]

Oh my God. If those are the pictures that haven't been released yet, then let them remain forever hidden from the public.[/url=http://www.thestranger.com/2004-05-13/grab_bag.html]There is an alternative[/url]. (Warning: Extremely dark humor.)

[Cervaise]

Gah (http://www.thestranger.com/2004-05-13/grab_bag.html)!

[lieu]

She's Butch (http://members.tripod.com/~plantation/dedication.htm)!

[elmwood]

I'd hit it.






































With a large blunt object.

[Balle_M]

That's the problem with living here in West Virginnie...

As soon as they turn 18 all the good-lookin' gals move somewhere nicer.

[Hyperelastic]

I'm thinking more along the lines of Mason Reese (http://www.venice-florida.com/graphics/corwin/corwin13b.jpg).

I just suffered a compound fracture of my funny bone. I always wondered whatever happened to that kid!

[Master Wang-Ka]

Oghod, somebody had to go and mention Mason Reese...

[Biggirl]

There was a picture of her on the front page of a free newspaper. I was shocked because she looks like a pixie or something. But then I looked at the leash picture again. Nope. More like a troll doll.




I guess the way a person acts does have an effect on how they look. To me.

[Never to be Queen]

Chipmunk-cheeked, short, pixie-like girls are your friends.

Well, maybe not this particular girl....

[DougC]

- - - This was pointed out on another forum I frequent--a lot of guys commented how ugly this girl looked, which simply isn't true. She has no makeup on and has a butch haircut, but that's really about the worst you could say. There's a website somewhere that has photos of movie and TV celebrities caught without makeup, and most of them look pretty nauseating too. As for the butch haircut, a lot of women do that in the service to avoid the hassle of dealing with longer hair. Even though they are permitted grow it longer than that, it's simply much easier to cut it short for the duration.

I think a reprimand and a couple of months in prison max is all England should get, based on what we've seen to date. 15 years in prison for posing for photos under orders from her chain of command is frickin insane. - Evil Captor
- As to what she did, we do not know the full circumstances yet,, but I agree in that from a historical perspective, the stupid frat-boy initiation stuff we have been shown so far is "torture" in only the mildest sense of the word. Read up on what has been used in other wars, or even..... what Saddam was up until recently doing to people he'd arrested in his own country. When I think of things like "torture", I tend to think of things like being burned with red-hot branding irons or welding torches, sawing off limbs, ect. Being forced into doing stupid poses while naked doesn't even rank on my scale of horrors.
~

[wolf_meister]

DougC
Agreed. The Iraqi prisoner photos might be embarassing but are miles away from torture.
Here's a link about Ms England having sex with her military buddies - http://news.newkerala.com/world-news/?action=fullnews&id=17032
Sorry - no pictures. My point being, that headline exudes such outrage that Private England was having sex AND the Iraqis were "forced" to watch !!
Oh the atrocities !! Oh please !!! I'll take that to being flayed alive, having electrodes on various parts of my body, etc. any day of the week.
Also, as others have said, what did the previous ruler of that country do to his own people? Then again, ask the people of Kuwait about the courteous treatment shown to them by invading Iraqi soldiers.
Another thing that upsets me is that American troops were sent to fight in a foreign country by an administration whose people did their darndest to avoid fighting in a war when it was their turn:
- George "Fought Vietnam In Texas" Bush; Dick "Had Other Priorities" Cheney; John Ashcroft, etc.
I will be outraged if "Dubya" (or others) uses these soldiers as a scapegoat and excessively punishes them or expresses extreme moral outrage when they themselves escaped the "horrors" of war.

AND not to get away from the OP - heck I think Ms England is cute. (I've been trying to cite a better photo than the one in the OP but the only other one I can find is the infamous "leash" portrait.

[astro]

DougC


AND not to get away from the OP - heck I think Ms England is cute. (I've been trying to cite a better photo than the one in the OP but the only other one I can find is the infamous "leash" portrait.


Here's a better one before she got pregnant. (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040524_Issue/040515_Lynndie_vl.vmedium.jpg). She a little bit puffy right now being several months pregnant.

[wolf_meister]

Yes astro - good work - much better than that "Danny Bonaduce" photo.

[wolf_meister]

Now that I think of it, since we are discussing the attractiveness of a servicewoman, wouldn't it be great if Lynndie England looked like Corporal Ferro form "Aliens" ?

"In the pipe five by five".

[FilmGeek]

Actually, she's exactly the sort of boyish girl that I'm attracted to.

So, astro I'm with you.

What she did was wrong, but damn, she's kinda cute.

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2004/05/08/image616334x.jpg