Evil women

Why are women so evil? I have been hosed by my ex, and currently she is denying access to my daughter. Yes I am paying child support, never miss a dime!
Short time ago I decided to give a chance to a relationship, and was lead on down the garden path like a lamb to a slaughter. Are women just plain evil, or do they just enjoy hurting men.

Like most generalizations and sterotypes, you will find this one to be true. We are evil.

We are the Brides of Satan, hadn't you heard?

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Stoidela

We are evil because we are the same species as men. We are particularly evil because we can get away with it more often.

Hannu? Sounds to me as if you're being "oiled up" for something here.. cherchez la femme!

Nickrz, "oiled up"? Yes I know, the above posts just prove the nature of the beast, don't they?
It is such a shame we have needed them for so long for survival of the species.

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Cogito Ergo Vroom
I think therefore I ride fast...

Naw, that was just a lot of sarcasm, it runs rampant on this board. I am sorry to hear about your plight. I presume you are allowed visitation rights to your daughter, so get back in the ring! Talk to a lawyer about what you can do, I know a buddy that is in sort of the same boat you are and that is just not right. As for the relationship thing, all of us (men and women) have been broken by another, thats the chance you have to take, the right one is out there somewhere!

Hannu, I'm sure you mean "Why is your ex so evil?" Just because she hosed you doesn't mean that all women are evil. I happen to be married to a wonderful example of the gender, plus I know many other good-hearted and kind females.

Evil Women? You bet! I wouldn't have any other way! I've been in wickedly evil happiness for 15 years now. I like it like that. Nice girls are dull...

Being screwed by the ex-wife out of visitation is a slightly different matter. Consult a lawyer.

[[It is such a shame we have needed them for so long for survival of the species.]]

We ARE the species. Males are a biological afterthought.

jodih, you are right, and I was actually looking for a fight. I am not looking for sympathy - women in particular are not capable of it. It is not in their nature.
All and all I find women mean, nasty and always looking to hurt someone.

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Cogito Ergo Vroom
I think therefore I ride fast...

maybe you have a hard time finding a good woman because you are a whining little prick who takes the actions of a few people and uses them to condem a whole gender who have nothing to do with you being hurt. Sympathy? Not bloody likely!

with your attitude, the chances of finding a good mate are slim to none. Hope you enjoy being alone.

You ex is screwing you over? Take her to court - you deserve to see your child. You had a bad experience with a member of the opposite sex? Join the club. Everyone of us on here have been screwed in one way or another. Deal with it and move on, just like everyone else in the world does.


Is your mother evil? How about your grandmother? If you have sisters, are they evil? Do you have a daughter? Aunts, teachers, etc? Are they evil?

Hannu, I want to support you, but, I'm afraid of women, they are the master race, superior humans. We'd better keep our mouths shut or we'll be ground to dust.



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Well, if you're looking for sympathy, the BBQ is probably the wrong forum. It seems to me that if you ask "why are women evil" in the Pit, you're going to get one of two responses (from women) -- we are going to be sarcastic or we are going to jump down your throat big time. I think you're lucky you only got sarcasm.

Hannu, she is being evil because she can. My mom did the same thing to my dad. She told us that our dad didn't want to visit. Then she tried to sue him for extra money to pay for "counseling" to deal with "abandonment issues". I didn't know until some time later that he was trying to see us twice a week.

Even if it takes a few years to see them, you have to keep trying. Write down every scheduled visitation time, be there half an hour early, and stay an hour past pickup time. Let everyone know where you are going, so you have witnesses and she can't claim you never showed up. Buy a dictaphone and record her excuses. Call her on them. Let this evidence accumulate, then nail her with it. The truth will eventually come out in court. Especially if you walk in with piles of affidavits, and a shoe-box full of neatly labeled tapes.

Until then, try writing to them to let them know you love them. Don't put your name on the return address or they will never get them. If you live in another town, send them to a friend to re-mail them so she won't know they are from you from the cancelation mark.

P.S. To defeat a b-tch, think like one. If you really want a fight, fight the EVIL TWO-FACED MONSTER who stole your children. Become treacherous and crafty. Cover every angle.

dawnbird, Thanks!
I needed that.....I owe you big time. Anytime, anywhere, and darn near anything!

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Cogito Ergo Vroom
I think therefore I ride fast...

Great song by the Electric Light Orchestra

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"...send lawyers, guns, and money..."

Warren Zevon

Hannu--It sounds like whatever went wrong in your relationship has left EX feeling angry and bitter. Unless you are a doormat, you are probably not completely blameless. If you should apologize, do it-even if she was more wrong. Be smarter than she is --Kill her with kindness. Be strong, but be nice. Ask for her advice about things, and at least pretend to listen to it. (don't actually kill her, though, that's just a figure of speech.)
Try to turn your relationship from hateful and spiteful to positive, in support of your daughter. It may be a lifelong struggle, but that is what a truly caring father would do....Regardless of your Ex's immature behaviour.

HINT:
a good apology: "I'm sorry for what I did."
a bad apology: "I'm sorry for what I did, but...."

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Okay, maybe I'm too much of an optimist, (My nickname is Pollyana) but trying resolve the conflict is Hannu's best chance of being a good dad.

I think yepitsme might be hitting the nail on the head! If you find women "all in all to be mean, nasty, and always looking to hurt someone," perhaps you are engaged with the wrong gender. Do yourself, and us all a favor, by either sticking with the palm sisters or making the transition to those more suited to yourself.

Of course women are evil, silly! It's a natural law, like ice is cold and fire is hot. Men are Good; therefore, Women are Evil. Linguists tell us that the word "woman" comes from "woe" + "man." Also, you will notice that the words evil, devil, vile,
violence, venom, and vomit all have the letter "v" in them, just like....you guessed it: vagina and vulva! My advice to you is to steer clear of them at all costs. I find myself vaguely attracted to them at times, so I am considering castration.

I hate to take sides with the "enemy" but... From my limited experiences with the fair sex I have found that women are evil because of men. I expect heaps of derision but I have found it to be true. For every mother denying her ex-husband visitation to his children there are 10 who have never seen a child support payment, who are living in hiding because he is looking to beat the shit out of her, who have husbands who deny the child was ever theirs in the first place and never try to see them or who abused the children and caused the separation. As a neutered male (i.e., been married to the same beastly creature for over 10 years) I get to hear all of the horror stories from the women I work with. A woman whose boyfriend broke her jaw. A woman raped by an ex-boyfriend on the eve of her wedding. A woman whose husband slept with his secretary in THEIR bed while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. With crap like that it is a wonder that we (men) don't all wake up one morning to find the bed on fire and our dicks missing... We're pricks and they've learned to adapt to our ways. We brought the hunter mentality into the bedroom and they have finally called bullshit on it... Women aren't as able to use the direct approach (i.e., beating the shit out of the guy who wronged them) so they make up for it in guile and ruthlessness. Sure, sometimes their anger is misdirected but I really believe we started it. Women get along fine in groups of other women... Leave a group of men alone long enough and you'll wind up with violence or sodomy (sometimes both)...

Hey Hannu? Maybe it's you....

Seriously, people, Hannu is getting a lot of sympathy on the child visitation issue just because he claims he is paying his support, but we don't really know the situation here.

Back in high school, I had a friend whose father didn't want to see her, or her sister, but even more, he didn't want to pay his support. He absolutely insisted on visitation, and then deliberately made the girls miserable, so his ex would release him from his support obligations in order to stop the visits. It worked.

Now, I'm not saying Hannu is doing that. I am saying, here's a guy who states plainly that he thinks all women are evil.

Is this a man we want raising daughters?


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--Rowan
Shopping is still cheaper than therapy. --my Aunt Franny

Hey Ducks! Thank you!

Overall I'd say you are correct. But don't go giving us TOO much credit, for there are certainly evil women in the world. And check out a woman's prison some time. Not quite as brutal as Oz, but damn close.

Overall, though, I'd say that women are the healthier, kinder, more sensitive and sane sex, and when we are not we are often driven to it by men.

And it is still up in the air as to why this is so. How much of it is biology, how much is cultural, and how much of our culture is driven by our biology.

I do believe, however, that the female practice of "getting in touch with our feelings" and hashing them into the dust goes a long way towards keeping us peaceful and sane. Any psychologists will tell you that.

It is interesting to me the way the two genders way of being in the world reflects their physiology: men tend to act OUT, they discover themselves and know themselves by the ways in which they "do" in the world, whether it is through sports, or war, or other contests of "doing", men are generally directed outward, like their penises.

We gals, on the other hand, are very much inner-directed, gazing at our navels, interpreting our feelings and actions, and yours, dissecting the guts of everything, turning inward, like our vaginas.

Coincidence?

(And before anyone starts flipping out...these are OBVIUSLY GENERALIZATIONS. Everybody's different, blah, blah, blah. But generalizations exist for a reason.)



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Stoidela

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Hey, I am thankfull for all the responses..and yes I was trolling a bit, as much as feeling sorry for myself, so I needed a virtual kick in the ass. Thanks everyone! I did receive a lot of insight too.
A tid bit of info for you..My daughter called me 2 days ago and wanted to see her daddy...It was going to be today. Oh well, it turns out that my ex has no time for that kind of "non sense" . Meaning that she could drive the 10 minutes that it takes to drop off my daughter to my house. Neither she had 10 minutes to wait for me to pick her up. Oh well...Monday call my lawyer again!



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Cogito Ergo Vroom
I think therefore I ride fast...

STOI, it has long been one of my goals to check out a women's prison...

Dream a little dream of me...

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Not only is the glass half empty, I think someone's spit in it...