Musicat
06-11-2004, 04:08 PM
The headline says, "Fido Found to Be Wiz with Words." (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=00001A09-98C2-10C8-98C283414B7F0105)
A dog in Germany is purported to have a 200-word vocabulary, and can fetch specific objects accurately with only verbal commands.Rico, the border collie, was taught to retrieve different objects by his owners, who placed various balls and toys around their apartment and asked Rico to fetch specific ones. To make sure Rico’s owners weren’t giving him subconscious cues that helped him find the right item, Julia Fischer and her colleagues at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, tested Rico’s knowledge in a lab, where he retrieved 37 out of 40 items correctly.So far, so good. Dogs, parrots and monkeys can certainly learn to associate objects with particular human vocalizations.
But then the skeptic in me raised a red flag when the scientists jumped to a more advanced conclusion.The team then tested Rico’s ability to employ fast mapping, a neurological process that toddlers use to quickly guess the meaning of new words. The researchers put an unfamiliar object in a room with other things he did know and, without teaching Rico the name of the novel item, asked him to get it. Seven times out of 10 he returned with the correct object. So did Rico use human-type reasoning to determine which object to return? Maybe, but I think there is insufficient evidence given to arrive at that conclusion. "To make sure Rico's owners weren't giving him cues...they tested him in a lab"? What? A lab removes all confounding factors? Is that why Uri Geller worked so well in a lab? Did they use other people's voices? How did they ask for objects? "Get me the car keys, Rico. No, not those, the ones over there. No, yes, those...good boy!"
Did they employ the services of a magician? No mention. How many objects were in the piles, and how many were known and unknown? Very little info is supplied about this. How similar were the objects? How random were the names called out? Were all trials recorded, or just the most promising ones? There is a serious lack of good science here, or maybe just a lack of good reporting. Or wishful thinking.
Why would you need a magician to spot fraud or mistakes? Consider the famous Clever Hans (http://skepdic.com/cleverhans.html) case of a century ago, who appeared to fool even his trainer. Using other handlers, Hans was just a stupid horse; the cleverness was in the animal's reaction to the trainer's cueing, not native intelligence.
From another site about Clever Hans (http://dogtraining.co.uk/hans.htm):
[The investigator's] analysis was the first scientific warning of the danger of 'reading conscious thought processes into an animals behaviour.' What may appear to be actions of great intelligence might prove to be an animal providing answers to ‘questions’ quite other than those apparently asked.
I wonder if Rico plans to apply for the million-dollar paranormal prize.
A dog in Germany is purported to have a 200-word vocabulary, and can fetch specific objects accurately with only verbal commands.Rico, the border collie, was taught to retrieve different objects by his owners, who placed various balls and toys around their apartment and asked Rico to fetch specific ones. To make sure Rico’s owners weren’t giving him subconscious cues that helped him find the right item, Julia Fischer and her colleagues at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, tested Rico’s knowledge in a lab, where he retrieved 37 out of 40 items correctly.So far, so good. Dogs, parrots and monkeys can certainly learn to associate objects with particular human vocalizations.
But then the skeptic in me raised a red flag when the scientists jumped to a more advanced conclusion.The team then tested Rico’s ability to employ fast mapping, a neurological process that toddlers use to quickly guess the meaning of new words. The researchers put an unfamiliar object in a room with other things he did know and, without teaching Rico the name of the novel item, asked him to get it. Seven times out of 10 he returned with the correct object. So did Rico use human-type reasoning to determine which object to return? Maybe, but I think there is insufficient evidence given to arrive at that conclusion. "To make sure Rico's owners weren't giving him cues...they tested him in a lab"? What? A lab removes all confounding factors? Is that why Uri Geller worked so well in a lab? Did they use other people's voices? How did they ask for objects? "Get me the car keys, Rico. No, not those, the ones over there. No, yes, those...good boy!"
Did they employ the services of a magician? No mention. How many objects were in the piles, and how many were known and unknown? Very little info is supplied about this. How similar were the objects? How random were the names called out? Were all trials recorded, or just the most promising ones? There is a serious lack of good science here, or maybe just a lack of good reporting. Or wishful thinking.
Why would you need a magician to spot fraud or mistakes? Consider the famous Clever Hans (http://skepdic.com/cleverhans.html) case of a century ago, who appeared to fool even his trainer. Using other handlers, Hans was just a stupid horse; the cleverness was in the animal's reaction to the trainer's cueing, not native intelligence.
From another site about Clever Hans (http://dogtraining.co.uk/hans.htm):
[The investigator's] analysis was the first scientific warning of the danger of 'reading conscious thought processes into an animals behaviour.' What may appear to be actions of great intelligence might prove to be an animal providing answers to ‘questions’ quite other than those apparently asked.
I wonder if Rico plans to apply for the million-dollar paranormal prize.