This CARTOON is what passes for political debate now? Thanks BNP!

[Colophon]

I don't really need to say anything about this little work of art from the British National Party - it kind of pits itself:

"SS Mayday" (Flash presentation) (http://www.bnp.org.uk/images/movies/mayday08.swf)

Have you ever seen anything so childishly racist? This political party claims to be a serious challenger to the Labour/Conservative status quo.

Ain't no rolly-eyes smily big enough, I'm afraid.... :rolleyes:

[The Man With The Golden Gun]

All politics aside, this isn't even a very good flash movie. No sound whatsoever, poorly animated, looks like it was done in about 10 minutes.

Didn't even make sense, why was the ship sinking? Wouldn't it blow up with the little suicide bomber guy on board? I don't know much about these guys (I'm American), but they need to get some new Flash artists and some new continuity people.

[gobear]

Apart from the appallingly stupid sentiments expressed, one has to admire the technical proficiency. The author was very good at his job.

I'm not British, so I don't get why the BNP is so worked up at having non-white immigrants (OK,"wogs") moving into the UK. So their ancestors weren't around for Agincourt or Naseby--the UK is a multiracial nation and one's color should have no bearing to one's status as a Briton. As far as British Muslims being potential terrorists, is that really a concern in the UK? I thought you guys had integrated Islam into your society much better than Americans have.

[Syntropy]

Wow. And I thought we had strong anti-immigrant feelings in the U.S......

[gobear]

All politics aside, this isn't even a very good flash movie. No sound whatsoever, poorly animated, looks like it was done in about 10 minutes.

I'm on a laptop with no soundcard (BF has the regular computer right now), so sound doesn't matter to me. I thought the message (such as it was) was clearly conveyed (too many Muslims will destroy the UK). Granted, it's dumb, but it's bound to be effective for its core audience, much like Chick tracts are.

[Marley23]

I don't think a rolleyes smiley will do it alone. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You need some additional :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack:


And a giant size :wally

[Colophon]

There are two more, even lamer, ones at the bottom of this page (http://www.bnp.org.uk/audio.html).

(The Dad's Army one depends on your having seen an old BBC comedy series of the same name, set in WWII.)

[Governor Quinn]

The good news is, these assholes didn't quite do as well with the local elections as they wanted to do.

The bad news is, the results for the European elections won't be announced until Sunday, so that still leaves two days of worrying that they made an MEP breakthrough.

[Troy McClure SF]

Wow. That was very impressive, in a very sick way.

[Dead Badger]

The bad news is, the results for the European elections won't be announced until Sunday, so that still leaves two days of worrying that they made an MEP breakthrough.
I don't think there's any chance of that - they're not really a Europe protest vote, and have concentrated largely on the council elections. The MEP vote is more likely to see large numbers going for idiots like UKIP and the slightly more radical ones with worse leaflets whose name I can't remember offhand.

I'm presently flabbergasted that UKIP got 10% of the votes in the London assembly election - ten! These are the idiots whose great argument one year was that the Euro would mean all the UK's gold would be trucked off to Frankfurt, when it clearly belongs in the Bank of England. I mean, what the fuck?

[Chimpy]

poor animation, poor politics. fuck the bnp, if they get anywhere near parliament i'm emmigrating.

[Colophon]

poor animation, poor politics. fuck the bnp, if they get anywhere near parliament i'm emmigrating.

I said much the same thing on another message board, and was basically told not to let the door catch my butt on the way out, because "England doesn't need my type" (i.e. people that don't hate all foreigners, or what? :rolleyes: ).

[Miller]

So, that was supposed to be Blair handing out the passports? I thought it was Prince Charles. It was the ears that threw me. Still, taking it literally, it would seem that Blair is the ideal candidate for the BNP. He apparently wants to put all the immigrants in the UK on a boat, sail them out into the English channel, and sink the ship. Sounds like that would be right up these asshole's alley, right?

[Chimpy]

I said much the same thing on another message board, and was basically told not to let the door catch my butt on the way out, because "England doesn't need my type" (i.e. people that don't hate all foreigners, or what? :rolleyes: ).

considering how varied the genetics of the average englishman are i dont know how we can say we dont want anything to do with europe, it reminds me of the bit in Adrian Mole: The Cappuccino Years (i think it was in that at least) with the candidate for local election who wanted only people who could trace their lineage back before the battle of hastings to vote, lowering the number of voters to apporimately one person. :rolleyes:

[Idlewild]

That was strangely hilarious. Yes I know it's bad, and I am duly appalled by the sentiment but the red arrows snaking across Europe? Comedy gold. Inadvertant comedy gold, but there you go.

[Jenaroph]

So let's see if I've got the plot mapped out correctly here:

The earth appears and is immediately blackened by a total eclipse.

Stark white text tells us that a lot of immigrants are entering Britain every year and creating new swampland. It asks us if we know who is behind it.

Then, much of Europe, Asia, and Africa point big red accusing arrows at Britain. I guess it's all Britain's fault.

Fade to a scene of a conveyor belt sliding people out of a huge crowd onto a dock. It's amazing how all of these different nationalities are traveling to Britain from the same port city, and all waiting their turn so politely. Clearly, diversity is a wonderful thing.

Captain Blair allows a bunch of very angry looking stereotypes (Muslims in burqas, suicide bombers, big-lipped Africans, short Chinese people in coolie hats) onto the Good Ship Mayday Mayday. Meanwhile, two sole white people on board (a man in a flag t-shirt and a woman with lopsided breasts) stare at us in horror. Perhaps they don't want to be watched. You! Quit looking at the lopsided breasts!

Captain Blair finishes handing out the passports and the boat leaves the dock. He then gives the wheel a jaunty spin, and takes a jump over the side of the boat. He lands safely on the dock, defying the laws of physics in the process. Apparently, Blair is planning to abandon his post as leader of the country.

Meanwhile, the boat begins to sink. It has entered a mirror universe which overloads the engines, or something. A small rescue boat labeled BNP picks up the two white folks who jump over the side, leaving permanent splash marks hovering just above the water. The small boat sails off, presumably back to the dock, since that would be the closest port. I hope BNP and the white folks enjoy their new homeland!

The boat sinks, which is probably a good thing. Now the suicide bomber will fail in his mission, and as the next shot shows, Britain is full to the coastlines with people who must be hundreds of feet tall. All those poor boat people would have been trampled anyway.

The crowded Britain suffers massive earthquakes, and sinks into the ocean, carrying the giant people to certain doom. I guess worrying about immigrant-created swampland was rather trivial, in the larger scheme of things. But obviously BNP's plan to abandon the country and take the native Britons with them is a wise one.

Yep, it all makes perfect sense to me.

[Miller]

I liked how, when they flipped the boat graphic to show it sailing away, they forgot to flip the boat's name, so now all the horrible foreign people are passengers on the YADYAM-YADYAM.

[Mangetout]

Well, If nothing else, this has laid to rest my nagging doubts that I might have been a little too harsh when I described the BNP last month as 'a mixed bag of racists, white nationalists and neo-nazis'. What a bunch of drooling morons.

[erislover]

I liked how, when they flipped the boat graphic to show it sailing away, they forgot to flip the boat's name, so now all the horrible foreign people are passengers on the YADYAM-YADYAM.That's how all those middling furners pronounce it, those silly fuckers!

[Colophon]

Well, If nothing else, this has laid to rest my nagging doubts that I might have been a little too harsh when I described the BNP last month as 'a mixed bag of racists, white nationalists and neo-nazis'. What a bunch of drooling morons.

Shit -- and I already voted... :D

[Kal]

(The Dad's Army one depends on your having seen an old BBC comedy series of the same name, set in WWII.)Earlier this year, the entirely un-racist (ahem) Daily Express used a similar method to educate its readership - link (http://img27.photobucket.com/albums/v80/kalidrom/Romani/map.jpg)

[Mangetout]

On a sort of side note; what was up with the bloody huge yard-long voting papers this time? I mean, I know there were a lot of different parties on there, but in the past, they have handled this by pasting up the details in the booths, leaving the ballot papers fairly uncluttered...

[Little Plastic Ninja]

Great galloping gorgons...

Okay, speaking as an Ignorant Colonist, what British newspapers aren't blatantly insane? I know they must exist, but I never see them in movies or in what little British TV we have.

[GorillaMan]

... but in the past, they have handled this by pasting up the details in the booths, leaving the ballot papers fairly uncluttered...
Really? There's a legal requirement of what is required on the ballot papers, and they can't substitue by placing this on posters instead - maybe the misunderstanding is because of the European ones having to list all entered candidtates under each party name?

[GorillaMan]

Okay, speaking as an Ignorant Colonist, what British newspapers aren't blatantly insane? I know they must exist, but I never see them in movies or in what little British TV we have.
The Guardian, the Independent, the Times and the Telegraph. Of course, the first two are blatantly commie-liberal-terrorist-traitors, from a US-media point of view.

[Menocchio]

Why did Blair jump ship? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to show him grinning madly as the ship sinks? I mean, it's not like he's planning on fleeing the country, or anything.

Is the MM supposed to represent Britain? If so, then is the BNP advocating that white British folk evacuate the country? If not, then the cartoon is clearly in protest of Blair's extreme and murderous anti-immigration policies, or at least the fact that he doesn't clue in white passengers before he sinks the ship.

And was that Ireland at the end (this, I really don't know). Is it cool to show Ireland, I mean, the whole of Ireland together with the UK, as if they were the same country?

[Really Not All That Bright]

And was that Ireland at the end (this, I really don't know). Is it cool to show Ireland, I mean, the whole of Ireland together with the UK, as if they were the same country?
The BNP doesn't think much of the Irish in general, but presumably they think they'll get a little mileage out of "their poor fellow drowning white folk across the water a bit"...

Is that Jesse Jackson's head I see flying off Tower Bridge in the "Traitor's Gate" one? It's been almost nine years since I left Britain and I can't remember a single black politician of major repute... and that sure looks like Jesse.

[Quartz]

Great galloping gorgons...

Okay, speaking as an Ignorant Colonist, what British newspapers aren't blatantly insane? I know they must exist, but I never see them in movies or in what little British TV we have.

British papers are divided into broadsheets and tabloids. The former - The Times, The Telegraph, The Guardian, and The Independent - expect their readers to think. The Guardian is politically hard left, the Telegraph fairly hard right, and the other two soft left. The tabloids are a different matter. The Mirror is hard left, the Express is just switching from soft left to soft right, and the Mail is soft right. The Sun and the Sport don't care as long as she's got big tits.

Most of the papers seem to be statist, but the Sun and the Mail have a strong libertarian streak. Not sure about the Independent.

Me, I read the Mail, not for its politics but because it's just the right length for me to read and do the puzzles in my lunch hour.

[TwistofFate]

the BNP are trying hard at the moment to hide their anti-Irish past, and are now trying to encourage Irish fascists to get organised. they even tried co-opting the Proclamation of the Irish Republic into an anti-immigration document.

let's just say it didn't really work.

[GorillaMan]

...and the Mail is soft right. ...

Most of the papers seem to be statist, but the Sun and the Mail have a strong libertarian streak. Not sure about the Independent.
The Mail is screamingly hard right, and I've never heard it, or the Sun, described as liberal!!

The Independent, as the name implies, is highly liberal.

[betenoir]

My god people! Don't you see how serious this is? The BNP is simply alerting us to the inevitable effects of unlimited immigration. We will get to heavy and sink into the ocean. Laugh now, but when you're bobbing around the North Sea hanging on to your sofa you'll wish you voted BNP! How can you not take these people seriously??

Incidentally, why are the UK passports blue? You'd think that'd be the sort of detail people obsessed with immigration would get right.

[betenoir]

The Mail is screamingly hard right, and I've never heard it, or the Sun, described as liberal!!



Libertarian, not Liberal. Very different things (unless one is refering to the poster :D ).

[GorillaMan]

My mistake/misread!

[js_africanus]

Maybe the BNP should start a Boycott Curry movement.

Regardless, in Nov. 2001 my sisters & I were in England and in London we saw a group of protesters carrying signs. Some of the signs said, "Free Speech Now!" while the others said, "Islam Out Of Britain!" We still laugh about that one.

[Colophon]

The Mail? "Soft right" you say? And you actually read it?

Can you not see rabid, drooling, fascist rightism when you read it? This is the Daily Mail we're talking about, the Blackshirts' friend.

I can't get past about five pages of that "newspaper" without my blood pressure hitting dangerous levels.

But then I read The Guardian... ;)

[Mangetout]

Really? There's a legal requirement of what is required on the ballot papers, and they can't substitue by placing this on posters instead - maybe the misunderstanding is because of the European ones having to list all entered candidtates under each party name?I might be misremembering it, but I'm sure that in some past election, I saw something like that.

[GorillaMan]

I might be misremembering it, but I'm sure that in some past election, I saw something like that.
There's only been one past European election with these huge great ballot papers with lists of names - prior to that it was a constituency system. There's still extra information on display at the polling station, such as candidate's addresses, nomination details and so on. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?

[Really Not All That Bright]

Maybe the BNP should start a Boycott Curry movement.

Regardless, in Nov. 2001 my sisters & I were in England and in London we saw a group of protesters carrying signs. Some of the signs said, "Free Speech Now!" while the others said, "Islam Out Of Britain!" We still laugh about that one.
Boycott curry? Everyone in urban England (except Grimsby, possibly) would starve...

[Chimpy]

Boycott curry? Everyone in urban England (except Grimsby, possibly) would starve...
or have to eat the dreaded kebab!a

[Bryan Ekers]

Worst of all, the BNP apparantly believes that foreign women don't have hands!