View Full Version : Iron Chef New York! Woo-hoo!!
Smeghead
06-09-2000, 09:54 PM
I've been seeing ads on the Food Network that Iron Chef, one of my favorite shows, is taping an episode in NY. The challenger will be their own Bobby Flay, who hosts a show on the same channel. It's set for I think a week from Sunday.
I am so there.
My roommate and I have begun speculating on just how this show will adapt to being in New York. What will the secret ingredient be? I'd love to see them do something like, I don't know, ketchup? Mayo? American cheese?
Who will judge? If they're American, will the show be worth watching without the horrifically bad dubbing?
Gotta go set the VCR now.
TVeblen
06-09-2000, 10:57 PM
Yeessss! There are other demented IC fans around! Catch the thread over in MPSMIS about this.
IMHO (apt, huh?) if there is any justice and taste in the world, Moriomoto will stomp Bobby Flay like Godzilla flattening Tokyo. I just wish they'd tapped Ming Tsai for the gig.
The Ingredient is toss-up. Bet it'll be something "American", at least by stereotype. Corn? Gad, notSpam?!
The promos of the IC and Kaga, duded up in sequins, etc. in the middle of Times Square is a hoot. I can't wait.
Veb
Edwardina
06-09-2000, 11:16 PM
"Quizan?"
OrganicMatter
06-09-2000, 11:34 PM
::Thunderous, anticipatory music::
The secret ingredient:
"I gotcha corned beef right here, fella!"
Should be a battle.
Heloise
06-10-2000, 11:01 AM
You only have to wait a week??? {{{wail}}}
They aren't showing it here until the 25th!!!!
JavaMaven1
06-10-2000, 12:17 PM
Signing up as another rabid Iron Chef fan!
I squealed in delight when I heard they were in New York and bringing Bobby Flay into this--I hope Morimoto just grinds Bobby Flay into the dirt! (as culinary school progresses, I run into more people that have connections to these famous chefs... I got a whole load of dirt on Flay from my instructor, who worked with him for a while)
And is anyone else reminded of those terra-cotta armies they found in China during the opening segment when he's got all his chefs lined up in Kitchen Stadium?
Ohhh I can't wait!
"Oh, Fuki-san?!?"
red_dragon60
06-10-2000, 02:33 PM
Hey everyone! Check out my thread in MPSIMS talking about this. Anyway, TVeblen, I saw the ads too. Kaga and troupe look awesome! I love the outfits! They seemed to blend right in to NYC. Heh heh heh.
C K Dexter Haven
06-10-2000, 06:05 PM
But will the American speak... English? I mean, it'll lose all it's charm without that wonderfully awful dubbing...
ricepad
06-11-2000, 06:30 AM
"If memory serves me...."
I'm having trouble thinking of how Kaga will issue the challenge to Bobby Flay:
"Sa, Fu-ray yo!"
I dunno...could be a hoot...
I know who wins, but who does the judging? Is there a (Lower) House member who dresses like a french fop? And mebbe Jeanne Dixon can sit in for Hosoki-san...
struuter
06-12-2000, 10:32 AM
smeg...
No fair we have to wait til the 25th, but if you find out who wins before then you have to promise not to spoil it for us poor saps. We just got the Food Channel a week ago and already are hooked on IC. What a blast.
I'm jealous of you NYC Dopers...
struuter
Smeghead
06-12-2000, 08:31 PM
<<Hanging head in shame>>
My bad. It's NOW a week from next Sunday. I get it the same time as all of you. Sorry.
I'm still holding out for the theme ingredient of hot dogs. That would be great. I thought of it during last week's show, where they said they had $8,000 worth of veal for the two chefs. I can just see the equivalent scene - "We have here over $5 worth of NY hot dogs...."
The best scene from the commercials, IMHO, is where the Chairman bites into the infamous yellow pepper in the middle of the street. I just wish they played the crowd's reaction. Actually, that's my favorite scene in the regular IC episodes, too. What the hell is he doing? Proving his manliness by eating a pepper? Who does that?
You know how the Iron Chefs rise from the ground in front of pictures of themselves? I want one of those pictures of me for my bedroom wall.
"Fuki-san?" "Take it, big guy!" Ha ha. I love that.
Girl Next Door
06-13-2000, 12:03 AM
My friend is hosting an Iron Chef party the night of the 25th. Me, him and another friend are the three iron chefs. Our friends are going to pick three ingredients, and we each have to make an appetizer, entree, and dessert (one "special" ingredient per recipe is fine). I am SO going to kick their asses.
Our other friends are all arguing over who gets to be the giggling ingenue. "(giggle) It's like springtime in my mouth!"
ricepad
06-13-2000, 02:29 AM
Do the challengers get to bring their own assistants if they want, or do they have to use the Academy-provided henchmen? I know that the guy from San Francisco (can't recall his name at the moment) used the staff from the show, but do local (that is, Japanese) challengers get to bring their own folks to help them? If not, I think that'd be a tremendous disadvantage, having to deal with new staff in addition to being on unfamiliar ground.
Smeghead
06-13-2000, 10:15 PM
ROTFLMAO - my roomate just said two of the funniest words ever to be strung together:
"Battle Velveeta"!
That would rock.
Baglady
06-13-2000, 11:12 PM
But will the American speak... English? I mean, it'll lose all it's charm without that wonderfully awful dubbing...
DUBBING?!?!?!?
...so is Iron Chef dubbed into English now? A couple of friends of ours turned us on to Iron Chef... and to their glee, I have almost 100% aural comprehension of Japanese. So when the San Francisco TV station started airing Iron Chef with no English subtitles, they'd ask me over to do a play-by-play translation. As it turns out even the subtitle version misses a lot of the quick chatter said in between the conversations, so I'd point out stuff to them when I'd hear something interesting. Definitely a fun show. :D
capacitor
06-14-2000, 02:41 AM
Finally the Iron Chef is coming to New York. I heard and read all about it but I can't get the show in the tri-state area. If it is as funny as you say it is, I hope that it would be adopted by one of the networks. It would be funnier than 99% of the sitcom crap currently being offered.
struuter
06-14-2000, 01:32 PM
"(giggle) It's like springtime in my mouth!" Way too funny!
I think you could probably start your own thread with that one...something like:
Best Dubbed Giggling Ingenue Line
or
What to say with a mouth full of Velveeta
Oh, last week the giggling line was something like, "I feel like I'm floating...up in the sky and the clouds are all around me." Asparagus can do that to some people.
<Sorry for the minor hi-jack, Smedhead>
struuter
Spoke
06-14-2000, 02:12 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been an American rip-off of this show yet. You'd think some desperate network like CBS would be copying what is obviously a very successful formula.
Then again, it just wouldn't be the same with boring American ingredients and no dubbing. ("Today's ingredient: giant eel!!!" Let's face it. Pork chops just couldn't compare...)
(JavaMaven1, fancy seeing you in this thread...)
Avumede
06-14-2000, 02:31 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been an American rip-off of this show yet. You'd think some desperate network like CBS would be copying what is obviously a very successful formula.
There has. "Ready, Set, Cook!" on the Food network. It was decent, although it had things I didn't like, like guests from the studio audience helping the cooks (who cares?), and of course the annoying title. Also, the fact that the winner was decided by looks alone - not tasting.
JavaMaven1
06-14-2000, 02:33 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been an American rip-off of this show yet. You'd think some desperate network like CBS would be copying what is obviously a very successful formula.
Then again, it just wouldn't be the same with boring American ingredients and no dubbing. ("Today's ingredient: giant eel!!!" Let's face it. Pork chops just couldn't compare...)
(JavaMaven1, fancy seeing you in this thread...)
There is just no way that the Americans could ever do this right--the charm of this show would be lost forever if any of the major networks touched it.
But, then again, if they got Julia Child on nailing the giant eel in the head to skin it alive... I'd sure be watching that episode.
Spoke, you know if the thread is about food and/or cooking, I'm sure to be there. :D
rundogrun
06-14-2000, 02:46 PM
If memory serves me...I seem to recall reading about this taping a few weeks back. Seems like Bobby was waiting to get electrocuted as he stood in the middle of a flooded kitchen with wires running through it. Now there's entertainment!
Luckily, they didn't say who won. But here's my question...shouldn't the Fortune Teller be able to predict the winner even before she tastes the food?
Fenris
06-14-2000, 02:59 PM
"(giggle) It's like springtime in my mouth!" Way too funny!
I think you could probably start your own thread with that one...something like:
Best Dubbed Giggling Ingenue Line
My favorite line from the BDJ (Bimbo Du Jour) was the one about "This is so good <giggle> I'd just love to go home with you!"
Kaga just looked at her and said "That's enough"
Fenris
Smeghead
06-14-2000, 10:26 PM
"(giggle) It's like springtime in my mouth!" Way too funny!
I think you could probably start your own thread with that one...something like:
Best Dubbed Giggling Ingenue Line
or
What to say with a mouth full of Velveeta
Oh, last week the giggling line was something like, "I feel like I'm floating...up in the sky and the clouds are all around me." Asparagus can do that to some people.
<Sorry for the minor hi-jack, Smedhead>
struuter
Are you kidding? That's a great idea. My vote would go to the really tough-looking guy that you KNOW is just the ultimate Japanese ladies' man (can't remember his name - my roommate and I refer to him as The Stud) for the line:
"This reminds me of the breeze coming off the ocean when I was a child."
It was so good coming from him with a totally straight face. He could have been reporting a plane crash for all the emotion he showed.
JBurton99
06-15-2000, 01:18 AM
OMG! My wife is never gonna believe this. I started watching the IC a few weeks ago here in PA and i love it.
My wife thinks i've totally lost it. Everytime we sit down for dinner, i always come up with a line about it similiar too "Hey Quizan! That's right, the challenger has just used diced crab nuts in this special mix". :D
Gotta love that show and the dubbing is the best!
The IC is gonna whoop Flay's butt up and down the studio.
Hmmm, i do like the idea of the special ingredient being hot dogs. LMAO
Tally-Ho
06-15-2000, 04:06 PM
I am sooo looking forward to the show!!
I only wish it was Emeril Lagosse instead of Bobby Flay.
A couple of loud BAM's might shake Morimoto's concentration.
:D
Chrisbar
ricepad
06-15-2000, 04:14 PM
Actually, "Ready...Set...Cook!" is a rip-off of a BBC production called "Ready...Steady...Cook!". It'll take Fox to produce the American version of IC.
If I recall correctly (SAG), Kano Tenmei is probably the guy you call 'The Stud', <b>Smeg</b>.
Mr. Cynical
06-15-2000, 04:14 PM
Avumede sez:
There has. "Ready, Set, Cook!" on the Food network. It was decent, although it had things I didn't like, like guests from the studio audience helping the cooks (who cares?), and of course the annoying title. Also, the fact that the winner was decided by looks alone - not tasting.
I would say that the key difference between IC and RSC is that Ready, Set, Cook! blew donkeys.
:D
Edwardina
06-15-2000, 04:32 PM
I am sooo looking forward to the show!!
I only wish it was Emeril Lagosse instead of Bobby Flay.
A couple of loud BAM's might shake Morimoto's concentration.
:D
Chrisbar
I swoon at the idea of my two favorite Food Network shows blending into one. If it was Emeril against the Iron Chef, the NY team would have a chance. He would do a Louisiana frog stomp all over the IC. *BAM!*
Even with the home-country advantage, Bobby Flay is gonna get smoked. He'll have to commit hara kiri with his favorite cooking knife.
(Of course, I am biased. Emeril did kick off my "Sexiest People Not Actors or Models" thread).
Smeghead
06-16-2000, 09:31 PM
I am sooo looking forward to the show!!
I only wish it was Emeril Lagosse instead of Bobby Flay.
A couple of loud BAM's might shake Morimoto's concentration.
:D
Chrisbar
Oh, man. I'm having way too much fun with this. This set me off again. What an image. I could just see Morimoto working on some delicate sushi roll or something when, from across the stadium comes "BAM!!" accompanied by whooping and hollering from the audience. The sushi roll goes flying. Oh, man.
Johnny Pebs
06-17-2000, 03:40 PM
I just came across this at Maxim online:
http://www.maximonline.com/articles/default.asp?article_id=3464&channel_id=7
It's an IC drinking game!:D I just may have to try this out.
Pebs
TVeblen
06-18-2000, 12:13 PM
This thread is a hoot! Anyone else ever cracked up laughing next to the yellow bell pepper display in the grocery? I always want to tear a hunk outta one and do the grin/shiver with delight thing.
Haven't checked out the unofficial IC site for a while. The drinking game is a stitch, as is the account of an IC party in SF: Battle Matzoh! It's where they also dubbed the giggling startlets as BDJ's: bimbos du jour.
I am so looking forward to this! But it's purely killing me, wondering what the theme ingredient will be. And I really want to know if Asako Kishi will be there. That lady rocks; no wonder they call her "the West German judge".
Couldn't you just see Emeril's deadpan double-take at the flaming torches and Kaga's gaudy wardrobe? He'd have a blast, bamming and draping pasta over the camera lenses of the guys scurring around, shoving the cameras into pots.
Gad, I just had a horrid thought; will Jacqui Malouf be up there, giggling away with Bobby (The Ass) Flay? We can only hope someone lets loose with a cleaver.
Veb
Rysdad
06-18-2000, 09:38 PM
I just love hearing what the giggling bimbette has to say. "Oooh, this soup sparkles in the spoon and on my palate!"
I wish Justin Wilson could've been a contestant. He'd have put some Cajun kickass in it, I gare-rone-tee!
Smeghead
06-19-2000, 08:56 PM
Gad, I just had a horrid thought; will Jacqui Malouf be up there, giggling away with Bobby (The Ass) Flay? We can only hope someone lets loose with a cleaver.
Veb
I saw Jacqui in the audience in the commercial. At least audience members aren't allowed to speak on IC.
Off the subject slightly, did anyone else see the most recent episode, where the Ohta faction, dedicated to preserving traditional Japanese cuisine, fought Morimoto? Omihell. They were ready to go at it with each other. I have decided that this is the Japanese version of the WWF. The faction brought in 54 (!!) chefs to root for their "second hit man", complete with signs. They were in Japanese, but I'm positive they would translate to something like "Morimoto sucks!" Very bizarre battle.
Girl Next Door
06-20-2000, 01:21 PM
Off the subject slightly, did anyone else see the most recent episode, where the Ohta faction, dedicated to preserving traditional Japanese cuisine, fought Morimoto? Omihell. They were ready to go at it with each other. I have decided that this is the Japanese version of the WWF. The faction brought in 54 (!!) chefs to root for their "second hit man", complete with signs. They were in Japanese, but I'm positive they would translate to something like "Morimoto sucks!" Very bizarre battle.
Isn't that the one where the secret ingredient was "sexless halibut" or something like that?
I like the one that was on just before it. Where the Sommelier battled Iron Chef Italian. Poor IC-I, he never wins. But all his stuff looks so YUMMY.
Mr. Cynical
06-20-2000, 02:11 PM
I want to play the Iron Chef drinking game, but I'm afraid to! You could die of alcohol poisoning!
A short list of Secret Ingredients I'd like to see, but not necessarily like to sample:
1. Rocky Mountain Oysters
2. Cream of Sum Dum Guy
3. Vienna Sausages
4. Essence of Emeril (hee!)
5. Fumunda Cheese
Edwardina
06-20-2000, 06:58 PM
"(giggle) It's like springtime in my mouth!" Way too funny!
I think you could probably start your own thread with that one...something like:
Best Dubbed Giggling Ingenue Line
My favorite line from the BDJ (Bimbo Du Jour) was the one about "This is so good <giggle> I'd just love to go home with you!"
Kaga just looked at her and said "That's enough"
Fenris
I saw that one!
I couldn't believe it when she said it, and I couldn't believe it when he reproved her for it.
I couldn't believe that they didn't just edit it out.
I was so tickled somebody had the nerve to slap her down on TV, the unspeakable trollop!
(Especially by Japanese standards)
Bimbo Du Jour, I love it! *giggle*
Smeghead
06-23-2000, 10:06 PM
2 more days! Again, woo-hoo!
I've learned some things. I've heard this show described as a "two-parter" though I have no idea what that means. I do know that when they explain the rules, they say that a tie will be decided with a 30 minute cook-off, which I've never seen but would like to. But that's just speculation.
Also, after the show, there will be a live chat at http://www.foodtv.com with the (hopefully) loser, Bobby Flay. Enjoy.
Whose cuisine will reign supreme?!
TVeblen
06-24-2000, 12:18 AM
I've thought about it deeply, delving into the subtle mists, becoming one with the True Meaning of Kitchen Stadium.
The Ingredient:
* Hamburger
* Spam
* Hot Dogs
* Rocky Mountain Oysters
* some kind of weird-ass chile most people have never heard of, as a sop to Bobby Flay
"Battle Napalm Chile!"
The Lower House Member Judge: "The Napalm Chile sorbet wafts through..gaack!" ::international incident occurs; kills Bobby Flay with a boning knife; gets off through diplomatic immunity; is elected to US Senate by acclimation::
Dreaming,
Veb
Mr. Cynical
06-25-2000, 01:02 AM
If *ANY* of you turkeys in a different time zone posts anything here even remotely spoiler like, I will find you, and have IC Italian run you through the pasta machine.
TVeblen
06-25-2000, 11:25 PM
If *ANY* of you turkeys in a different time zone posts anything here even remotely spoiler like, I will find you, and have IC Italian run you through the pasta machine.
Whoops! Thanks for the reminder, Mr. C.; I almost did. Will save my comments for tomorrow.
Veb
ricepad
06-26-2000, 01:55 AM
For the record, Gordon Elliot is a dickhead. Not only does he not get the whole point of the show - what the hell was he doing asking the judges to compare Morimoto's and Flay's dishes BEFORE the scoring?? - but he couldn't even be bothered to learn how to PRONOUNCE 'Masaharu Morimoto'. It woulda been nice to see Gordon Elliot get electrocuted instead of Bobby Flay.
And the '12th Man' judge...what can I say...he knew that *somebody* had to be the bimbo!
Girl Next Door
06-26-2000, 02:23 AM
Well, sort of. Iron Chef Sammamish was tonight, and while I took three and tied with the fourth out of five judges, the fifth judge gave a seven point spread to the other guy, so he won the points. They called two winners, 1 for points and 1 for judges.
It was very hard and very tiring. I have a newfound appreciation for what those guys go through. But hey, at least I didn't get electrocuted!
Smeghead
06-26-2000, 03:55 AM
OK, it's been on at least twice now, so I'm posting, dammit!
First off, I thought that introductory show was hilarious. The IC's really seemed blow away by how popular they are here. It was great. I just hope they never realize that part of their popularity is because we find it so very strange. That idiot Gordon Elliott's only redeeming feature was when he bit into the hamburger. That was priceless. Why did we have a Brit hosting the American-Japanese battle?
Anyone else think the Morimoto-wannabe kid gets beat up a lot? Yeah, me too.
Then there was the battle itself. Oh, man. I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. When Chairman Kaga entered among a shower of yellow peppers I about peed my pants. Overall, I thought they did a decent job of sticking with the original show, but I missed Ohta! I'd say his replacement did a pretty good job of filling the BDJ role. "I'm going to ask some questions now. How do you feel?"
They edited too much of the cooking and tasting out. We had no idea what they were making until the end, and then we didn't get to see them eat half the dishes! Blasphemy.
I really felt sorry for the announcers. They had no idea what was happening to them. They did a good job, however, adapting to the American audience.
But the highlight was, of course, seeing Morimoto getting pissed at Flay for stepping on his cutting board. Man, he was mad! That was some serious trash-talking for him. "He is no chef." You said it, Moto old buddy.
More later if I memory serves correctly...
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