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Bob55
08-10-2004, 11:32 PM
My wife's 2nd toe is longer than her big toe, and I told her "it's a sign of royalty" to which she asked "I've heard that too, why is that?". Of course the only reason I say this is because my mother used to say it to me, but I can't find anything on the internet or here on it. What's the reason for this saying?

friedo
08-10-2004, 11:33 PM
My second toe is longer, and I'm the King of Belgium. So there you go.

Now go make me a waffle.

Squink
08-10-2004, 11:43 PM
No explanation for the royalty connection, but they're also called roman toes (http://www.pipeline.com/~sdc1/notroot/italy_web_96.htm). They work great for picking up small objects from the floor without bending over.

pool
08-10-2004, 11:50 PM
Sweet I have Roman toes too ;)

I am very skilled at picking things up with my feet and can actually throw stuff with my feet a fairly long distance...yeah I need to get some better hobbies.

PatriotX
08-10-2004, 11:56 PM
I heard it means that you have to be the boss in your marriage. That's what my wife told me.

Jenaroph
08-10-2004, 11:56 PM
I have this too, as do several members of my family. I've personally heard it called "Murphy's Toe" (anything you can stub it on, you will stub it on.) Eh. All it really means is square-toed shoes fit funny.

Thaumaturge
08-11-2004, 12:16 AM
My brother has this. I used to tell him it was because he was part monkey. :p

Bob55
08-11-2004, 12:22 AM
I heard it means that you have to be the boss in your marriage. That's what my wife told me.

Actually this is what my wife said too.

I did find one site on the internet that mentions royalty, but no explanation:

link (http://www.islandscene.com/body_knowledge/1998/981104/toe_jam/)


"Tree-climbin' toes. Royal tree-climbin' toes." My mother has a way of making her long, bony toes sound, well, enviable. Her second toe is longer than her big toe, which she says is a sign of royalty (King Kong?). And as for dexterity, just ask her to do Mr. Spock's "live long and prosper" thing. 'Nuf said.

Earthling
08-11-2004, 12:26 AM
The proper term for this condition is Morton's foot (http://eduserv.hscer.washington.edu/hubio553/glossary/morton_f.html). No idea about its linkage with royalty or dominance, other than that it's probably some old canard on the same level as relating the size of a man's foot or nose to his penis (http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/size.htm).

Odesio
08-11-2004, 12:33 AM
Sweet I have Roman toes too ;)


Me too! I usually put them in the freezer unless I'm going to prepare them within a few days of harvest. Man oh man, I can't wait until I get back to Rome!!

Marc

pool
08-11-2004, 12:35 AM
:eek:

calm kiwi
08-11-2004, 12:51 AM
I rememeber seeing an "article" in a stupid gossip magazine (yes I buy them and read them.......shoot me :eek: ), it claimed the long toe thing showed an outgoing, driven personality, "destined for success". Damn me and my short toe.

It even had pics of toes to prove it :D J-Lo, Madonna, Posh (to name just the ones I can remember to name) own these toes.

If the womans mags say it's true what more proof to you need? ;)

a daft girl
08-11-2004, 12:56 AM
oi.

i have it too.

though, i call it simply "the toe"

a girl i met years ago said her family referred to hers as the "foot long hot dog toe"

never heard the linkage to royalty/dominance, only that it's linked to intellectualism, but im sure someone somewhere can produce evidence of a long toe bearing moron, so i'll dismiss the linkage to smarts :)

*wiggle wiggle*

it does come in handy for pinching though ;)

astro
08-11-2004, 01:17 AM
Here's an example of such a toe from a textbook of bizarre medical curiosities. (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cpeek001/DCP_2373.JPG)


Apparently this freakishly deformed individual has developed the grip strength of this near finger like toe to an extraordinary degree. (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cpeek001/DCP_2374.jpg)

Cat Jones
08-11-2004, 02:01 AM
Well I'd always been told it was a sign of Celtic blood ... but it seems that everyone has their own theory (http://www.topendsports.com/fun/bodysurvey/toes.htm)

nonnative
08-11-2004, 02:21 AM
I remember hearing that a longer second toe means that you're mother will outlive your father. Longer big toe, vice versa.

Well I must a great deal of royal blood in me since my second toe is freakishly long and have often heard comments about it.

Morton's foot? It's a condition?! Man, and all this time I thought I simply had ugly feet.

I Love Me, Vol. I
08-11-2004, 02:47 AM
I might have you all beat. My second toe is well longer than my big toe on both feet. But on my left foot the THIRD toe is just as long as the second one!

calm kiwi
08-11-2004, 02:58 AM
I remember hearing that a longer second toe means that you're mother will outlive your father. Longer big toe, vice versa.

Well I must a great deal of royal blood in me since my second toe is freakishly long and have often heard comments about it.

Morton's foot? It's a condition?! Man, and all this time I thought I simply had ugly feet.

Well you could just start a gossip mag worthy career!

susan
08-11-2004, 10:39 AM
No idea about its linkage with royalty or dominance, other than that it's probably some old canard on the same level as relating the size of a man's foot or nose to his penis.Cool, so does that mean I'd have a big penis?

Jewish, not Celtic, not royalty, not dominant in my marriage. Clearly someone forgot to send me the long-second-toe conspiracy letter.

pravnik
08-11-2004, 11:33 AM
Wow. That's me to a T. My second toe is longer than the first...a lot longer. The really weird thing is, if I spread all my toes out as far as I can, my foot looks like a little monkey hand. A lot like a little monkey hand. The really, really weird thing is that my big toe is almost opposable.

BobLibDem
08-11-2004, 11:35 AM
Long 2nd toe = ugly foot in my book. Never heard of Roman toes- but I have heard of Russian hands and Roman fingers.

a daft girl
08-11-2004, 11:52 AM
Long 2nd toe = ugly foot in my book..

That's funny, because every foot fetishist or foot admirer i've ever come across (and yes youd be as surprised as i have been to realize jus how many there are in the world) has begged me to let them either rub, touch, kiss, photograph my feet, pedicure them... and some have even offered to pay me for worshipping time.

So Nya! :D I may have a goofy toe, and you may think they're ugly, but the foot freakies always wanna lick em :P And one day i might have to take one up on the offer just so ill know what the big deal is, til then...


*sticks up middle toe*

BobLibDem
08-11-2004, 12:08 PM
That's funny, because every foot fetishist or foot admirer i've ever come across (and yes youd be as surprised as i have been to realize jus how many there are in the world) has begged me to let them either rub, touch, kiss, photograph my feet, pedicure them... and some have even offered to pay me for worshipping time.

So Nya! :D I may have a goofy toe, and you may think they're ugly, but the foot freakies always wanna lick em :P And one day i might have to take one up on the offer just so ill know what the big deal is, til then...


*sticks up middle toe*

Wow. Color me amazed. I just can't believe people are into feet. Personally, I think they are the ugliest part of the body. How do you find these people? Or do they find you?

olpeculiar
08-11-2004, 12:29 PM
I've got a long second toe also, and it's amazing how many people are freaked out by that. Seems normal enough to me.

Now if you want to talk about creepy, there's a woman I know who has second toes that are SHORTER than her third toes. So she's got a long big toe, and really short second toe, followed by the predictably long third toe. Now THAT'S creepy. I'm pretty sure it's a sign of the devil. We're planning an exorcism next week...

susan
08-11-2004, 12:45 PM
Gotta say, the length of my toes or general shape of my feet (other than intact) is just not something I've ever spent time on. Ugly? Weird? Royal? It's like I'm living in a parallel universe where the only difference is that nobody's ever commented on my feet.

bordelond
08-11-2004, 12:45 PM
Wow. Color me amazed. I just can't believe people are into feet. Personally, I think they are the ugliest part of the body. How do you find these people? Or do they find you?

People (usually men) into feet are not at all rare. What is rare is finding people who are open about this "fetish" (is it a fetish if it involves an actual body part, as opposed to inanimate matter?).

susan
08-11-2004, 12:48 PM
is it a fetish if it involves an actual body part, as opposed to inanimate matter?


Technically, nope:
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/fetishism.htm

Ravenman
08-11-2004, 12:51 PM
I think people with long second toes have desirable trait A. And people with short second toes have desirable trait B.

At least, this is my guess at how the astrologers/soothsayers/fortunetellers/other crackpots would probably view it. Personally, I think desirable trait B is waaaay better than A. :)

Skeptico
08-11-2004, 12:53 PM
One disadvantage of having the 2nd toe longer than your big toe is that you won't be able to put as much stress on the foot without sustaining some minor injury to the 2nd toe. The consequence of this is that you won't be able to run as fast or as long as a person with "normal" toes.

Imagine a person running. At high enough speeds, only one foot is in contact with the ground at a time. You hit the ground with your heel, slap down the the rest of the foot and push. As you push off, your toes start getting off contanct with the ground. Ideally, the big toe should be the last part of the foot in contact immediately before take-off. However, if your 2nd toe is longer, then it might be the last one.

At least that's how I remember how the whole bio-mechanics of the foot theory went...

WordMan
08-11-2004, 01:08 PM
I will check this out if I have time, but I have always attributed the "2nd toe is longer = good" bias to Roman times - hence the reference to Roman Toe. I seem to remember that Romans had very clear ideals of beauty, no doubt tied to classically Roman genetics and traits - the toe, an aquiline nose, stout strong legs, etc. - the big difference vs. other cultures that advanced *their* ideal of beauty being that the Roman Empire was hugely influential on vast swaths of geography for darn near 1,000 years and even to this day....

WordMan
08-11-2004, 01:13 PM
This link (http://members.tripod.com/romeartlover/Feet.html) doesn't speak to royalty, but offers the most complete history of Middle Eastern-to-Western art and the depiction of feet therein. Apparently, Roman Toe is a variant of Greek Toe - those darn Romans copied the Greeks in everything! *snicker*

For foot fetishists, who knows? this link may not be work safe! For the rest of us - knock yourself out!!

AHunter3
08-11-2004, 01:20 PM
Mine look like the JPEG posted by astro, and I can do the grasping and heavy-lifting thing with it, too.

Girlfriend describes me as "footiedextrous"

I might have you all beat. My second toe is well longer than my big toe on both feet. But on my left foot the THIRD toe is just as long as the second one!

I initially read that as "But on my THIRD foot..."

pravnik
08-11-2004, 02:51 PM
One disadvantage of having the 2nd toe longer than your big toe is that you won't be able to put as much stress on the foot without sustaining some minor injury to the 2nd toe. The consequence of this is that you won't be able to run as fast or as long as a person with "normal" toes.

Do you mean barefoot, or even with running shoes? I've been a long distance runner since high school and have never had any injures related to foot shape. My atheltic performance has pretty much been on par with the differently footed around me, and is as far as I can tell limited only to the time and intensity of training, same as anyone else.

sturmhauke
08-11-2004, 03:04 PM
I don't have a long 2nd toe, but I can still open a beer can with my feet and a key for leverage. I wouldn't want to drink it though...

pravnik
08-11-2004, 03:09 PM
As an aside, If it bothers you enough, you can have cosmetic surgery (http://www.bunionbusters.com/services/mortonstoe.asp) to shorten your second toe and/or lengthen your big toe to relieve yourself and others from having to suffer through the ghastly sight of having a longer second toe.

It does not begin to approach coming anywhere approximating close to bothering me enough.