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Gatopescado
08-12-2004, 02:19 PM
Both a rant and a poll. Since it has extra Assholey goodness right in the title I picked the Pit.

So, the company is sporting pizza for lunch. The person who orders it is out of thier tiny mind, but thats not really part of this. And don't get me wrong- free lunch is a good thing, but its not like I need it. I generally ply my masculine wiles and get free sushi. No complaints there.

Anyway, in the break room are several pizzas, or "pies" if you like. Most are one or two topping affairs and the combo was quickly dispatched by the 400lb guy. Eating two topping pizza is like fucking without coming. Nice, but hardly worth the effort. Like a tie in football or frenching your sister. But thats not really what this is about either.

One of these "pies" has cheddar cheese on it! Thats not right! What kind of Asshole puts cheddar cheese on a pizza? I even said this out loud in the break room. The 400lb guy pipes up and says proudly, "ME! I like cheddar cheese on pizza!"

I grabbed a slice of sausage and mushroom and pointed out that the query was in fact a rhetorical question. I didn't bother telling him that I was sure he was one of them.

So, who likes cheddar cheese on pizza? ( <---thats the poll part, by the way)

Lobsang
08-12-2004, 02:24 PM
whoosh.,

I always thought cheddar was pretty standard on pizzas. at least on low grade common delivery pizzas. Have I been mistaken all this time? Do they really All have mozerella on? Mozerella that's cheddar-coloured?

Dung Beetle
08-12-2004, 02:26 PM
This reminds me of a time when we had ordered a couple of pizzas. We demolished the first one and opened up the second box to find several slices of American cheese melting on it! The culprit turned out to be my grandma, who when confronted, got a very wounded look on her face and informed us all that lots of people would pay to get extra cheese on a pizza! She could not seem to comprehend that there is "right" cheese and "wrong" cheese. IMO, American and Cheddar are "wrong" pizza cheese.

milquetoast
08-12-2004, 02:32 PM
IMO, American and Cheddar are "wrong" pizza cheese.

Cheddar is the "wrong" cheese when it's the sole cheese on the pizza. But when you got a good three-cheese or four-cheese or five-cheese pizza going, a splash of cheddar can make for some yummity yum yum yum.

Slices of Kraft-like American cheese food product? I whole-heartedly support the "wrong" moniker slapped on that one.

GoingToCalifornia
08-12-2004, 02:33 PM
When making a pizza at home (with home made dough!) I always add a small amount of cheddar cheese to the mix. I like it. My pizza cheese is about 1/2 mozzarella, 3/8 monterey jack and 1/8 cheddar. Of course that doesn't count the fresh graded parmesan I sprinkle on top.

El_Kabong
08-12-2004, 02:35 PM
Eating two topping pizza is like fucking without coming.

*Takes a bite of two topping pizza*

*fucks without coming*

I, er, must respectfully disagree.

The 400lb guy pipes up and says proudly, "ME! I like cheddar cheese on pizza!"

Well, I bet...naw, way too easy.

Anyway, while cheddar would not be my first choice of fromage with which to pave a pizza, I don't know that I'd get all, like, offended by it. Hell, many people are known to demand bizarre things like pineapple on their pizzas.

When I lived in France, most of the pizza joints (which, admittedly, were invariably run by Tunisians or Algerians rather than Italians) seemed to consider it perfectly normal to top one's pie with a fried egg. Vive la difference, and all that.

Geobabe
08-12-2004, 02:38 PM
whoosh.,

I always thought cheddar was pretty standard on pizzas. at least on low grade common delivery pizzas. Have I been mistaken all this time? Do they really All have mozerella on? Mozerella that's cheddar-coloured?It's not standard in the US, at least. There are some pizza shops that offer it as an option, but the "normal" pizza cheese is strictly mozzarella.

Ethilrist
08-12-2004, 02:39 PM
Me. Next question?

Lobsang
08-12-2004, 02:41 PM
It's not standard in the US, at least. There are some pizza shops that offer it as an option, but the "normal" pizza cheese is strictly mozzarella.

I am beginning to realize it's not standard anywhere. I just always assumed it was cheddar because it was the right colour. Is mozerella slightly yellow?


BTW I didn't mean to sound narky in my first post.

silenus
08-12-2004, 02:42 PM
Cold pepperoni and pineapple pizza is The Breakfast Food of the (Lesser) Gods. But cheddar cheese? Too greasy/oily.

Ms Boods
08-12-2004, 02:42 PM
When I make my own pizza and lasagna from scratch, I grate for it

-- mozerrella
-- sharp cheddar
-- monterey jack
-- colby
-- parmesan and/or romano
-- just about any other cheese not nailed down if it can be grated (although I loathe riccota and will not use it).

Of course, I may also add broccoli, sausage, Swedish meatballs (not as huge chunks, but spread out like, and I make the mince up using my mum's recipe), and portobello mushrooms as a topping.

I make the crust by hand, and the resulting pizza is usually at least an inch thick. If I'm feeling cordial towards the beneficiaries, I mix parmesan and basil into the flour mixture as I knead the dough. I don't like a thick sauce, but I do use a lot of herbs (home grown when I can manage) in the sauce, and I have made 'white pizza' by request sometimes.

Have not had any complaints from anyone for my pizza; in fact I get nagged fairly often when I'm a houseguest, 'You will make homemade pizza, right?'

:)

Dung Beetle
08-12-2004, 02:42 PM
Cheddar is the "wrong" cheese when it's the sole cheese on the pizza. But when you got a good three-cheese or four-cheese or five-cheese pizza going, a splash of cheddar can make for some yummity yum yum yum.



Okay, I can go with that.

Ponder Stibbons
08-12-2004, 02:44 PM
Everywhere I've been and have eaten pizza (US, Canada, Argentina) Mozzarella is the standard and only cheese (well, except for parmesan and/or romano, of course). All the cooking shows I've seen on TV suggest this is standard in Italy as well. Certainly if someone invited me over for "pizza" and didn't specifically say otherwise I would expect Mozzarella.

On the other hand, I don't mind cheddar on pizza at all, as long as whatever kind of pizza can handle it. Then again, I do like "oddball" pizza, like BBQ Chicken (which often but not always comes with cheddar). I figure it's in the same category as anchovies: Ask people if they want any FIRST. If enough people want it to justify getting a pizza with it, then do it. And, like with anchovies, let everyone know: "Hey guys, just so you know, the box with the big X on it has Cheddar".

Lobsang: Really? All the delivery pizza there comes with goold ol' yellow cheddar cheese? I'll be damned. Maybe it's an "Isle of Man" thing?

chique
08-12-2004, 02:48 PM
One of my favorite pizzas is the bacon double cheeseburger: Ketchup and mustard instead of tomato sauce; hamburger; bacon; lettuce (they sprinkle it on after it's baked); and mozzerlla, swiss, and cheddar cheeses.

YUM.

Ponder Stibbons
08-12-2004, 02:49 PM
"goold ol' yellow cheddar cheese"? :smack: I must be watching too much SG-1! Please ignore the extra "l" ...

Lobsang
08-12-2004, 02:50 PM
Lobsang: Really? All the delivery pizza there comes with goold ol' yellow cheddar cheese? I'll be damned. Maybe it's an "Isle of Man" thing?

I'm pretty sure I was mistaken.

GaWd
08-12-2004, 02:51 PM
I am beginning to realize it's not standard anywhere. I just always assumed it was cheddar because it was the right colour. Is mozerella slightly yellow?


Actually, it is pretty standard in California with some of the larger nationwide chains. But only in a blend, not pure cheddar as the only cheese topping. THat would just be so...wrong. Mozzarella is white, not yellow.

Sam

Gatopescado
08-12-2004, 02:55 PM
But cheddar cheese? Too greasy/oily.

Bingo! Thats it! It leaves a slimy "nacho" aftertaste! I couldn't quite pit my finger on it, but I just knew it was wrong.

Yllaria
08-12-2004, 02:58 PM
Another vote for 'not bad if there's mozarella, too'. Cheddar just doesn't have the right consistancy when half melted, as it must be to be perfect for eating. Mozarella is the glue that holds the pizza together. Mmmm. Tasty glue.

For people who must use hamburger as the meat on their pizzas (hey, it was common in Ohio back when I lived there), cheddar could add a little, how shall I say this, actual taste to the pie.

And I can handle anchovies, but green olives are just wrong (Flint, Michigan).

Geobabe
08-12-2004, 03:00 PM
Lobsang, what you're probably seeing is the cheese getting a slight orangish tint from the tomato sauce, or possibly from the grease if you usually get pepperoni on it. The cheese itself should be white.

Ponder Stibbons
08-12-2004, 03:00 PM
I'm pretty sure I was mistaken.
Yea, I see a whole shitload of us all posted within a few minutes of one another and I missed your followup.

[Emily Litella] Never mind! [/EL] :)

Lobsang
08-12-2004, 03:02 PM
Lobsang, what you're probably seeing is the cheese getting a slight orangish tint from the tomato sauce, or possibly from the grease if you usually get pepperoni on it. The cheese itself should be white.

Then it's definately not mozerella because I've seen it raw and it's still (light) yellow. not orange (I know of orange cheddar but most of it is yellow)

Damn I don't know what to believe anymore. Have I been cheated? Cheapskate take away owners! Is there an OG?

Ethilrist
08-12-2004, 03:05 PM
Another vote for 'not bad if there's mozarella, too'. Cheddar just doesn't have the right consistancy when half melted, as it must be to be perfect for eating. Mozarella is the glue that holds the pizza together. Mmmm. Tasty glue.
Oh. Yeah, there is that. I wouldn't make one with just cheddar, unless it was the only cheese left in the fridge, and even then, I'd probably not be overly happy. Tasty glue, indeed...

monstro
08-12-2004, 03:07 PM
The pizza that they served in the grade school cafeteria had orange cheese. I always assumed it was cheddar.

And I liked it.

overlyverbose
08-12-2004, 03:08 PM
I LOVE cheddar on pizza. Especially if it's a pizza with pesto sauce instead of pizza sauce and red onions and mushrooms. It gives the pizza a wonderful tang. But...it's usually better if it's mixed in with at least a little mozarella.

neuroman
08-12-2004, 03:19 PM
*Takes a bite of two topping pizza*

*fucks without coming*
Once on a business trip to Milwaukee I fucked a deep dish pepperoni and mushroom without coming. Worst lay ever.

Flutterby
08-12-2004, 03:24 PM
Prefer mozza but cheddar as part of the mix is great.

Cheddar alone though.. I find cheddar doesn't do the stringy thing which is a necessary part of pizza IMHO.

Mighty_Girl
08-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Cheddar? On pizza? You gotta be kidding! What will they do next? Put hot dog sausages in the crust. :dubious:

You can get pizza in Napoli with just three ingredients, if you count the crust as one. And by Jove those Italians can make pizza!

Anaamika
08-12-2004, 03:30 PM
Um...never had it, but I read the thread title and thought "Mmm, that sounds good!"

Oh well.

Boldface Type
08-12-2004, 03:32 PM
I am beginning to realize it's not standard anywhere. I just always assumed it was cheddar because it was the right colour. Is mozerella slightly yellow?

Only if the delivery bloke pissed on it. Or if the buffalo was a bit ill.

MinniePurl
08-12-2004, 03:48 PM
Cheddar cheese is okay for BBQ chicken "pizza" (where the pizza sauce is replaced by BBQ sauce), but otherwise, it's an ABOMINATION! I had an Italian professor once who liked to proclaim that cold pasta was an ABOMINATION! She also said there is no such thing as genoa salami in Genoa. I'm sure she was right, since she was from Genoa, but I still like genoa salami anyway. And cold pasta salad.) My husband once put cheddar cheese in spaghetti sauce. I nearly hurled. I love a good extra-sharp Cheddar, but Cheddar and Italian food do not go together. Ugh.

Hyperelastic
08-12-2004, 03:53 PM
Cheddar cheese on pizza? Don't do it in Naples (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3753575.stm) .

Mighty_Girl
08-12-2004, 04:03 PM
Neapolitan pizza is so simple, yet so delicious that it can only be said to be sublime. Just quality ingredients (if you can't taste the olive oil something is wrong), subtle tastes, an the added 'smoky' flavor from the oven and it is almost as good as sex. And it is good, healthy food to boot.

American-style pizza is an abomination from their point of view.

Chefguy
08-12-2004, 04:23 PM
Another vote for bacon-cheeseburger pizza with cheddar. I like a little pepperjack along with it.

My favorite, though, is a local concoction with potatoes, mozzarella, grilled chicken, garlic and oil, and rosemary. mmmmmm

Earthworm Jim
08-12-2004, 04:30 PM
What will they do next? Put hot dog sausages in the crust. :dubious:
I smell a new DominoesTM special...

I'll often grate some cheddar onto one of those cheap frozen pizzas that you back for 14-16 minutes.

I wouldn't expect cheddar, but I probably wouldn't mind too much.

Earthworm Jim
08-12-2004, 04:31 PM
BAKE, dammit - those pizzas that you BAKE for 14-16 minutes.

Jeez

Lobsang
08-12-2004, 04:33 PM
Jeez

Is it cheddar?

cher3
08-12-2004, 04:38 PM
Cheddar cheese is okay for BBQ chicken "pizza" (where the pizza sauce is replaced by BBQ sauce), but otherwise, it's an ABOMINATION! I had an Italian professor once who liked to proclaim that cold pasta was an ABOMINATION!


Will it make anyone's head explode if I mention that I prefer to use swiss cheese when I make bbq chicken pizza? Swiss cheese, smoked chicken, and green onions, to be precise.

Mayfield St. Cloud
08-12-2004, 04:43 PM
I think that milquetoast guy pretty well nailed it.

For another variation, try a splash of hot pepper cheese, if you can get it through the grater without mashing your fingers into bloody stumps.

thomasm
08-12-2004, 06:50 PM
And I can handle anchovies, but green olives are just wrong (Flint, Michigan).

Oh, no.... they're just delish! Especially if you have cashews on it as well. mmm.... green olive and cashew, one of my favorites.

Though now, where I work is getting pizza from a place that makes buffalo chicken pizza. The chicken is in smallish chunks, but basted in a buffalo-type hot sauce, and they drizzle some sort of ranch-like substance on top of the cheese. I think they also add some of the hot sauce to the tomato sauce, or perhaps instead of it. Very good, and quite spicy!

zephyrine
08-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Neapolitan pizza is so simple, yet so delicious that it can only be said to be sublime. Just quality ingredients (if you can't taste the olive oil something is wrong), subtle tastes, an the added 'smoky' flavor from the oven and it is almost as good as sex. And it is good, healthy food to boot.

American-style pizza is an abomination from their point of view.

Yes.

I live in Italy.

This thread is making me feel nauseous.

LifeOnWry
08-12-2004, 09:38 PM
My friend Monti makes the world's best pizzas. My personal favorite has a topping that is made of finely chopped mushrooms simmered in wine and garlic with red pepper flakes - he mooshes that all over the crust, then tops it with sliced provolone.

He makes a potato pizza, a barbeque chicken pizza with pineapple, a kalamata olive tapenade pizza, a ham-and-sauerkraut pizza, and several good old-fashioned "authentic" pizzas - including an absolutely fabulous Margherita pizza with fresh basil and diced tomatoes. A few of his pizzas have Cheddar cheese on them, but not as the main cheese.

And all of you gagging over these toppings are invited not to join us as we gleefully gobble every bite.

pulykamell
08-12-2004, 09:50 PM
Yes.

I live in Italy.

This thread is making me feel nauseous.

I definitely prefer Italian-style pizza (which is very thin and not quite as sauce-laden as its American kin) to what's sold in the US. A crispy crust baked in a brick oven, with simple fresh tomatoe sauce (using a minimal amount of ingredients), topped with Buffalo mozzarella (which is quite different than what Americans are used to calling mozzarella cheese.) Yummm...yummm... Gimme a quattro stagione pizza any day.

That said, I don't think there should be any rule about what cheese goes on top of pizza. While I've never had cheddar on my pizza, I've certainly encountered pizzas topped with goat cheese and even blue cheese (as the sole cheeses). These were quite good. I imagine cheddar would make a fine topping as well.
Though the cheese may not be indigenous to Italy, pizza is trule an international dish now, and I welcome the experimentation.

dnooman
08-12-2004, 09:52 PM
Once on a business trip to Milwaukee I fucked a deep dish pepperoni and mushroom without coming. Worst lay ever.
How was the yeast infection?

BTW, cheddar on pizza can be done tastefully with good pizza cheddar, or poorly with crappy cheddar. They key is to use good cheese, the right amount, and the right accompanying ingedients.

A good buffalo chicken pizza with cheddar and dipped in ranch kicks ASS!

Lynn Bodoni
08-12-2004, 10:02 PM
Cheddar on pizza is WRONG. I love cheddar cheese, but it needs to know its place, which is NOT on my pizza. You heathens who like it on your pizza can have it, but just don't make it standard. The only cheese that should be on pizza is mozzarella, with perhaps a little Parmesan and provolone added.

Cheddar in Italian lasagna is also WRONG. Lasagna needs at least ricotta (NOT cottage cheese!) and mozzarella, and possibly provolone, Romano, and Parmesan cheeses as well. These cheeses are also the only acceptable ones for stuffed pastas such as shells, ravioli, and manicotti as well.

I don't like to eat pepperoni and cheddar cheese together, either. If I eat cheese with pepperoni, it's gotta be mozzarella or provolone. Same with salami. Ham can be accompanied by cheddar, Swiss, provolone, or mozzarella.

I'm second generation Italian-American on my dad's side. My mother is a WASP.

silenus
08-12-2004, 10:10 PM
Lynn! You're back!!! :D

We missed you!

Telperien
08-12-2004, 10:12 PM
This thread is making me hungry, except for the parts where people are claiming illness. Cheddar cheese does not really belong on pizza, but I don't object to it strenuously, though I feel it's best on bacon cheeseburger pizza. My favorite pizza is pepperoni and mushroom, preferably heavy on the mushrooms, with mozzarella cheese, maybe some parmesan and romano too.

Mighty_Girl
08-12-2004, 10:13 PM
Cheddar on pizza is WRONG.Preach it sister!

Gatopescado
08-12-2004, 11:19 PM
Wow! I managed to start a thread that got over 5 replies, made one person sick while simultaniously making another hungry.

I claim victory.

And I don't really think anyone that likes cheddar on pizza is an Asshole, per se. It was more of an "expression of speech".

roger thornhill
08-12-2004, 11:41 PM
I'm second generation Italian-American on my dad's side. My mother is a WASP.

That's a relief. I thought you'd just bought a new cookbook.

OtakuLoki
08-12-2004, 11:50 PM
I'm afraid I have to disagree with many of the posters here. Chedder can be nice as an accent in the cheese mix on one's pizza. However, I'll confess, alone it does leave something to be desired. (Of course as a 350 lb male, I guess it's only to be expected. :D )

pulykamell
08-13-2004, 12:25 AM
Lasagna needs at least ricotta (NOT cottage cheese!) and mozzarella, and possibly provolone, Romano, and Parmesan cheeses as well.

Well, actually, lasagne only needs Parmesan. While the ricotta variations on lasagne are much more popular in America, I myself prefer the besciamella (aka. bechamel) alternating with a meat ragu type, which is popular in Bologna. This one only contains Parmesan on the besciamella layers.

Jurhael
08-13-2004, 02:45 AM
I don't mind cheddar on pizza. I don't mind any kind of cheese on pizza, except for the cheeses I have yet to try or don't eat.

Anyone ever tried Greek pizza? That's yummy! :D

Dunderman
08-13-2004, 02:53 AM
For people who must use hamburger as the meat on their pizzas
Wait... hamburger on pizza? This must be some kind of linguistic problem I'm having, right? You're not actually talking about putting hamburgers on pizza. Right?

BiblioCat
08-13-2004, 07:43 AM
Will it make anyone's head explode if I mention that I prefer to use swiss cheese when I make bbq chicken pizza? Swiss cheese, smoked chicken, and green onions, to be precise.That sounds wonderful. What time is lunch?



Lynn Bodoni said:
Cheddar in Italian lasagna is also WRONG. Lasagna needs at least ricotta (NOT cottage cheese!) and mozzarella, and possibly provolone, Romano, and Parmesan cheeses as well. These cheeses are also the only acceptable ones for stuffed pastas such as shells, ravioli, and manicotti as well.
I collect old cookbooks, and have one ('50s-era) that has a recipe for "Quick & Easy Lasagne" that calls for cottage cheese and ketchup! :eek: Heathens!

EddyTeddyFreddy
08-13-2004, 07:50 AM
How about feta cheese? Yep, a local (Greek) pizzeria does a fabulous pizza with feta, black olives, red onions, and garlic. Even my cats scarf down whatever bits I don't eat.

Yes, including the olive slices.

One of my favorite combos is broccoli and fresh tomato. YUM.

Cottage cheese and ketchup is just WRONG.

chela
08-13-2004, 08:20 AM
My friend Monti makes the world's best pizzas. My personal favorite has a topping that is made of finely chopped mushrooms simmered in wine and garlic with red pepper flakes - he mooshes that all over the crust, then tops it with sliced provolone.

He makes a potato pizza, a barbeque chicken pizza with pineapple, a kalamata olive tapenade pizza, a ham-and-sauerkraut pizza, and several good old-fashioned "authentic" pizzas - including an absolutely fabulous Margherita pizza with fresh basil and diced tomatoes. A few of his pizzas have Cheddar cheese on them, but not as the main cheese.

And all of you gagging over these toppings are invited not to join us as we gleefully gobble every bite.

Now there's a man who knows pizza, ham and sauerkraut? I am intrigued! folks who grouse about pizza that has cheddar or so called unusual ingredients on it need to have their taste buds grow up I tell ya!

Mighty_Girl
08-13-2004, 08:26 AM
Originally Posted by Yllaria
For people who must use hamburger as the meat on their pizzas
Wait... hamburger on pizza? This must be some kind of linguistic problem I'm having, right? You're not actually talking about putting hamburgers on pizza. Right?I noticed that and pretended that I didn't.

::twitches wildly::

CalMeacham
08-13-2004, 09:59 AM
There used to be a Pizza Restaurant in Downtown Crossing in Boston (I don't recall the name -- it began with "W") that specialized in Cheddar Cheese Pizza. It said so right on the sign -- "British-Style Cheddar Cheese Pizza". I think it was part of a chain.

1.) Some people evidently like Cheddar Cheese Pizza
2.) Enough of them to support an entire chain of restaurants.
3.) Some will see this as further proof that the British cannot cook.

Excalibre
08-13-2004, 10:26 AM
Oh, no.... they're just delish! Especially if you have cashews on it as well. mmm.... green olive and cashew, one of my favorites.

Though now, where I work is getting pizza from a place that makes buffalo chicken pizza. The chicken is in smallish chunks, but basted in a buffalo-type hot sauce, and they drizzle some sort of ranch-like substance on top of the cheese. I think they also add some of the hot sauce to the tomato sauce, or perhaps instead of it. Very good, and quite spicy!
You evil, vile, horrific destroyer of all that's good and pure! Green olives and cashews on pizza! :: shudders :: Clearly you are a servant of Satan!

Now I prefer good, normal toppings on pizza, like spinach and broccoli.

CBEscapee
08-13-2004, 04:52 PM
Cheddar on a pizza ain't for me. But I'm not surprised by all the cheddar on pizza aficionados. After all, most gringos think it's perfectly normal to put shredded cheddar on tacos, which is even worse.

wolfman
08-13-2004, 05:00 PM
Wait... hamburger on pizza? This must be some kind of linguistic problem I'm having, right? You're not actually talking about putting hamburgers on pizza. Right?

Hamburger just means ground beef. If you form in it blobs it kind of looks like the blobs of Itialian sausage, so some people think it should be used as a topping.

The only cheeses that don't belong on pizza in my opinion are blue cheeses and brie type cheeses. Although if you skip the tomatoes and meat, brie, herbs and garlic melted on a pizza crust are damn good, just not pizza.

CanvasShoes
08-13-2004, 10:27 PM
Dung Beetle:
This reminds me of a time when we had ordered a couple of pizzas. We demolished the first one and opened up the second box to find several slices of American cheese melting on it! The culprit turned out to be my grandma, who when confronted, got a very wounded look on her face and informed us all that lots of people would pay to get extra cheese on a pizza! She could not seem to comprehend that there is "right" cheese and "wrong" cheese. IMO, American and Cheddar are "wrong" pizza cheese. IMO, American and Cheddar are "wrong" pizza cheese.


Well, imho, American and it's cousins, Velveeta and canned liquid cheese (shudder), are just wrong period. They are NOT cheese. They even say so on the package. They are cheese "food" whatever that means.

But as milquetoast says:

Cheddar is the "wrong" cheese when it's the sole cheese on the pizza. But when you got a good three-cheese or four-cheese or five-cheese pizza going, a splash of cheddar can make for some yummity yum yum yum.

It all depends upon the pizza and the pizza makers. I make a homemade pizza that includes (Good quality) sharp chedder, but if of COURSE has to have "real" pizza cheeses too. And there is a local pizzaria in my home town, run by a pair of stoners, they make the most incredible gourmet pizzas and while some are "too-too" sundried tomato and pesto, there are some that use cheddar in a fanTASTic way.

wolfman
08-13-2004, 10:32 PM
Although if you skip the tomatoes and meat, brie, herbs and garlic melted on a pizza crust are damn good, just not pizza.

Let me try to wrangle those commas into place so my sentence resembles coherency.

If you don't use tomatoes or meat, you can make a damn good food with melted Brie along with herbs and Garlic on a pizza crust, but it isn't pizza.

CanvasShoes
08-13-2004, 10:35 PM
One of my favorite pizzas is the bacon double cheeseburger: Ketchup and mustard instead of tomato sauce; hamburger; bacon; lettuce (they sprinkle it on after it's baked); and mozzerlla, swiss, and cheddar cheeses.

YUM.
Heh heh, Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about those (thanks to some sort of weird old age tummy thing, I have to be really careful of things like pizza, and only indulge lightly and rarely :( ), there's a chain in anchortown that does a version of those. Don't forget the extra dill pickles (as New York dopers all over curl up and die in sheer disgust for we "pizza barbarians" :D).

Telperien
08-13-2004, 10:38 PM
Pickles on pizza? I am torn between my love for pickles and my fear of warm pickles.

Squink
08-13-2004, 10:51 PM
Well, imho, American and it's cousins, Velveeta and canned liquid cheese (shudder), are just wrong period. They are NOT cheese. They even say so on the package. They are cheese "food" whatever that means.
Pasteurized process cheese food is a variation of process cheese that may have dry milk, whey solids, or anhydrous milkfat added, which reduces the amount of cheese in the finished product. It must contain at least 51% of the cheese ingredient by weight, have a moisture content less than 44%, and have at least 23% milkfat.WHAT'S THAT STUFF? (http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/7806sci2.html)

It all depends upon the pizza and the pizza makers. I make a homemade pizza that includes (Good quality) sharp chedder...Good quality sharp cheddar is the key. I use a 4 year aged Schullsburg Cheddar for my tuna, onion, and olive topped pies. Adding another cheese is just a waste.

silenus
08-13-2004, 11:25 PM
Pickles on pizza? I am torn between my love for pickles and my fear of warm pickles.

Fear not the warm pickle.

http://www.barbecueamerica.com/recipes.cfm?featured=38&cat=free


Mmmmmmmmmm......frickles.......... :D

Telperien
08-13-2004, 11:30 PM
Frickles? I'm even more frightened. Someone hold me.

Put the frickle down first.

CanvasShoes
08-13-2004, 11:44 PM
Wow! I managed to start a thread that got over 5 replies, made one person sick while simultaniously making another hungry.

I claim victory.

And I don't really think anyone that likes cheddar on pizza is an Asshole, per se. It was more of an "expression of speech".If someone puts a not completely accepted ingredient on a pizza intended to be eaten by everyone at a specific gathering (work, social etc) without asking or making sure it's okay, then imho, they are at least a BIT of a jerk.

But just liking something that someone else doesn't like? Doesn't make them either a jerk OR "wrong". Just not to everyone's taste.

chique
08-14-2004, 12:39 AM
The only cheeses that don't belong on pizza in my opinion are blue cheeses and brie type cheeses. Au contraire! I once had a pizza with carmelized onions, chicken, and gorgonzola and parmesan cheeses. Gorgonzola is green, not blue, but it's almost the same family.

YUM.

GuanoLad
08-14-2004, 12:57 AM
Some people think I'm a picky eater because I have such a small range I choose from that resembles the kiddy menu at Burger King. But you guys rally get so worked up about some unimportant things.

Food is overrated.

Gatopescado
08-14-2004, 01:51 AM
But you guys rally get so worked up about some unimportant things.

Food is overrated.

Life is nothing but Food, Sex and Money. The order of importance shifts from time to time, but the three never vary.

When you have all you need of two, you can quibble about the third! :D

sturmhauke
08-14-2004, 03:12 AM
Oh, no.... they're just delish! Especially if you have cashews on it as well. mmm.... green olive and cashew, one of my favorites.
Cashews? CASHEWS?!?! You're fucking nuts.
Ba-dum-bum-kshhh
Food is overrated.
So are you. Food rules. I let my wife handle most of the wedding plans, but I was very particular about the food, and it was damn good.

Annie
08-14-2004, 02:13 PM
Well, now you foodie bastards have done it-now I have to go buy a blob of buffalo mozz from Il Mercato Italiano Snooty that retails for $9.95 to go on tonight's thin crust with caramelized onions and salami. Hope you're satisfied ;)

Yllaria
08-14-2004, 02:30 PM
Sorry to break it to you Priceguy and Mighty_Girl, but I've seen ground beef on pizzas in Ohio and Michigan and they use the word hamburger on the menu to describe that. It does come broken into chunks or crumbs like a sausage topping. I'm assuming it's a Midwestern thing.

They also always put bell pepper on the pizza. You have to request that it be left off and they think you're kinda weird for omitting it. Like it isn't really pizza without bell pepper. (I tried swapping it for another topping or extra cheese, but they wouldn't buy it. The bell pepper wasn't considered to be a topping.)

Hot dogs rolled into the crust? Hmmmm. I'd prefer sausage. I'll let you know how it works, M_G.

CanvasShoes
08-14-2004, 03:41 PM
Pickles on pizza? I am torn between my love for pickles and my fear of warm pickles.
Apparently, here in Texas, they do this thing called a fried pickle :eek:
I haven't ever gotten the nerve to try them. But on the cheddar cheeseburger pizza I was describing before, they don't actually put them on the pizza, you get them in little to go containers and then put them on just before you eat the slice.

CanvasShoes
08-14-2004, 03:51 PM
Sorry to break it to you Priceguy and Mighty_Girl, but I've seen ground beef on pizzas in Ohio and Michigan and they use the word hamburger on the menu to describe that. It does come broken into chunks or crumbs like a sausage topping. I'm assuming it's a Midwestern thing. It's really common on pizzas for Anchoragites too, so not just a midwestern thing.

They also always put bell pepper on the pizza. You have to request that it be left off and they think you're kinda weird for omitting it. Like it isn't really pizza without bell pepper. (I tried swapping it for another topping or extra cheese, but they wouldn't buy it. The bell pepper wasn't considered to be a topping.)

Ewwww, I hate bell peppers, on anything. Strangely I love the orange, yellow and red varieties though.

t-keela
08-14-2004, 04:09 PM
Cheddar on a pizza ain't for me. But I'm not surprised by all the cheddar on pizza aficionados. After all, most gringos think it's perfectly normal to put shredded cheddar on tacos, which is even worse.

Gringos...GRINGOS Who you callin Grrrringos...you cheesy greasy...wait a minute, I think maybe you're right. They make some shit here called a TACO PIZZA :eek:
It's basically a salad on a pizza crust with some ground meat and LOTS of cheddar cheese grated up on it. (CBE & t-keela both shudder at the thought)
I think I'll pass on the cheddar cheese pizzas.




;)

Celyn
08-15-2004, 02:58 AM
All this heated debate and so far nobody has seen fit to say "Blessed are the cheesemakers"?

bouv
08-15-2004, 11:50 AM
I'll agree that cheddar cheese is OK on a pizza, if it's not the only cheese. Mozzarella NEEDS to be there, other than that, put whatever cheese the person wants. The only exception to mozzarella needing ot be there that I have encountered was a greek pizza that has feta cheese, black olives...probably other stuff, I can't remember, but it was good, and no mozzarella.

As for pickles on a pizza...they are DIVINE! My favorite pizza combo is pepperoni and pickles. DOn't knock it until you try it. I converted all my friends to this. Hell, I'm the reason that the pizza place in my hometown has pickles on the list of toppings on their menu! After I introduced my friends to it, they all started ordering it, and eventually the place ecided it should go on the menu. The trick is, use the sourest dill pickles you can find. All the water evaporates, so they become super-pickles!

Guinastasia
08-15-2004, 03:35 PM
That sounds wonderful. What time is lunch?




I collect old cookbooks, and have one ('50s-era) that has a recipe for "Quick & Easy Lasagne" that calls for cottage cheese and ketchup! :eek: Heathens!


That sounds like something straight out of the "Gallery of Regrettable Foods"!

Put me down as "depends on the type of pizza." Sometimes it can be good (Mexican pizza, anyone?), sometimes not. My 'za of choice, however, is a good white pizza-garlic, olive oil, cheese and maybe some chopped onions.

Gatopescado
08-15-2004, 11:09 PM
Put me down as "depends on the type of pizza." Sometimes it can be good (Mexican pizza, anyone.....)

Mexican Pizza is Nachos, dammit! Lack of originality does not validate a new food catagory.

Denis
08-16-2004, 01:04 AM
I had smoked oysters on a pizza in Germany once. Quite tasty.

I like anchovies too.

Cheddar belongs on a sandwich or with apple pie.

Ephemera
08-16-2004, 01:20 AM
Every kind of pizza described in this thread sounds delicious to me sans anything containing seafood (shrimp and clams are the only marine life worty of human consumption) and cashews. Even the sauerkraut pizza sounded intriguing.

But cashews? What the hell? Who the fuck puts nuts on pizza?!

Denis
08-16-2004, 01:30 AM
Who the fuck puts nuts on pizza?!

Well, there was one time in college when I was really stoned, horny, and hungry, and my sweetheart was feeling the same way...

Larry Mudd
08-16-2004, 01:44 AM
Who the fuck puts nuts on pizza?!Little Steve Buscemi-impersonating squirrels do (http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html), naturally.

Eleusis
08-16-2004, 01:56 AM
I'm pretty sure I was mistaken.
Lobsang, no offense please, but to me you sound very pizza ignorant (as it were ;) ).

I truly believe you haven't lived until you've had a serious Chicago style deep dish pie with sausage, pepperoni, green pepper, black olive, and mushroom. Maybe onion. And maybe half of it has nothing but the cheese, sauce, and double spinach.

Oh Og how I miss it.

rockle
08-16-2004, 12:27 PM
Sorry to break it to you Priceguy and Mighty_Girl, but I've seen ground beef on pizzas in Ohio and Michigan and they use the word hamburger on the menu to describe that. It does come broken into chunks or crumbs like a sausage topping. I'm assuming it's a Midwestern thing.
They do it in Pennsylvania, too. Usually it's called "hamburger" or "cheeseburger pizza." We also have the weirdo concoction called the "cheesesteak pizza," which is made with chip steak meat and sautéed onions and green peppers, in addition to the usual red sauce and cheese. Yum.

Bookkeeper
08-16-2004, 01:01 PM
When I was growing up in Newfoundland in the Fifties, we knew exactly what pizza was - it came in a package from Chef Boy-ar-dee, with a pack of pizza dough, a can of tomato sauce, and some packaged Parmesan. If your mother was into gourmet stuff (mine was), she added hamburger and some shredded cheddar. We thought it was great! I still like pizza with hamburger and cheddar, although my expectations for the crust and sauce have progressed far beyond the Chef.

Seriously, there is "real Italian" pizza, then there is the descendant dish of the same name which has spread worldwide with an amazing variety of sauces, toppings and cheeses. Check out The Web's First Japanese Pizza Page (http://www.chachich.com/mdchachi/jpizza.html) for some even stranger variations than those mentioned above. Despite the efforts of the Italian government (http://avantgo.thetimes.co.uk/services/avantgo/article/0,,1123754,00.html), I feel there is no definitive pizza, the best one is whatever you like it to be. All else is opinion. Mind you, I still wouldn't put up with cheddar on a "traditional" pizza - it's mozarella or nothing (well maybe a sprinkle of cheddar or some other cheese as an accent).

Exgineer
08-16-2004, 01:16 PM
I truly believe you haven't lived until you've had a serious Chicago style deep dish pie with sausage, pepperoni, green pepper, black olive, and mushroom. Maybe onion. And maybe half of it has nothing but the cheese, sauce, and double spinach.
Let's be honest here: Chicago deep dish is good eats, true, but it's not a pizza.

It's a casserole.

istara
08-16-2004, 01:34 PM
To me, the horror isn't so much cheddar as the description of pizzas as "pies".

Lobsang
08-16-2004, 06:41 PM
Lobsang, no offense please, but to me you sound very pizza ignorant (as it were ;) ).

I truly believe you haven't lived until you've had a serious Chicago style deep dish pie with sausage, pepperoni, green pepper, black olive, and mushroom. Maybe onion. And maybe half of it has nothing but the cheese, sauce, and double spinach.

Oh Og how I miss it.


Absolutely none taken. I am pizza ignorant. So it seems are all the people who make them in this part of the world.

That :dubious:pie?:dubious: sounds yum!

Lobsang
08-16-2004, 06:42 PM
huh, so a p after a : is a smiley. :smack:

Yllaria
08-17-2004, 12:31 PM
Mighty_Girl - -

I tried rolling sausage links into the crust of a pizza and it worked pretty well. Didn't get the crust exactly the way I like it, but that's a separate problem. :D

pkbites
08-17-2004, 08:06 PM
My block-headed father-in-law puts asparagus, artichokes, and fucking squid, all on the same pizza, then pisses and moans when people won't eat it or pick that shit off. I'll take cheddar cheese any day over fucking squid!

OtakuLoki
08-17-2004, 08:15 PM
I'll take cheddar cheese any day over fucking squid!

Umm...

Umm...

You might want to consider other adjectives for squid. Perhaps even other nouns, too: Calamari, f'rinstance.


(So says the former Squid :D )

Or did you have a bad experience making love with a sailor?
D&R

pulykamell
08-17-2004, 08:28 PM
Let's be honest here: Chicago deep dish is good eats, true, but it's not a pizza.

It's a casserole.

Nah...it's more of a pie than a casserole. But you're right. As a Chicagoan, I really don't count Chicago-style pizza as a true pizza. It's a whole different beast.

Larry Mudd
08-17-2004, 08:32 PM
My block-headed father-in-law puts asparagus, artichokes, and fucking squid, all on the same pizza, then pisses and moans when people won't eat it or pick that shit off.Artichoke hearts are one of the Divine Pizza Toppings. One of my favourite pies is Artichoke heart, sliced garlic, red pepper and feta. Mmmmm.....

Asparagus and squid, not so much.

pulykamell
08-17-2004, 08:33 PM
My block-headed father-in-law puts asparagus, artichokes, and fucking squid, all on the same pizza, then pisses and moans when people won't eat it or pick that shit off. I'll take cheddar cheese any day over fucking squid!

None of these are really unusual toppings for an Italian pizza. Artichokes and/or asparagus are pretty standard on a quattro stagione pizza, and squid on a frutti de mare pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know it's not what most people in the US expect of pizza, but I think it's pretty damned good (especially artichokes and asparagus...they are just heavenly on pizza.)

Qadgop the Mercotan
08-17-2004, 08:50 PM
None of these are really unusual toppings for an Italian pizza
Real italian pizza is a whole 'nuther food from pizza here in the US of A. I long for it even as I type. Pizza Hut! Feh! Dominos! I bite my thumb at you! Balistreri's! Now that's a good italian-american hybrid. But give me a pizza from Il Ritrovo tonite!

Guinastasia
08-20-2004, 11:52 PM
I just wanted to say that I had a frozen pizza for lunch, and just for the hell of it, I sprinkled on some extra sharp white cheddar (and some garlic powder).

And it was delicious. DE-LISH-US!!! And I never would have thought to do so had the OP not started this rant. Thank you!

:D

sturmhauke
08-22-2004, 01:55 AM
I like those Stouffer's french bread pizzas, even though I think the french bread disqualifies it from being actual pizza. Same with Bagel Bites.

foolsguinea
08-24-2004, 06:27 PM
I can handle anchovies, but green olives are just wrong (Flint, Michigan).I think the word is spelled necessary. Nah, I kid, I just like olives in general--but not in concentration, so I take your point.

Actually, I just wanted to say, regarding the OP: Frenching your sister? I never had a sister, so I don't know. Do people do this?