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fighting ignorant
08-16-2004, 11:44 PM
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/

Should get used a lot more around here. :-)

elucidator
08-16-2004, 11:48 PM
Cite?

EddyTeddyFreddy
08-16-2004, 11:52 PM
Ah, yes, we need A Guide for the Googolplexed, eh?

TJdude825
08-16-2004, 11:56 PM
Hm. True, people do need to use google more. But I think it would probably be better to just link the person to the google search itself. If you really wanted to express some anger/frustration with the person you could say "here (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=sample+google+search+results+page)'s a really good site with a whole bunch of information about your question," but it seems to me that linking to the site in the OP might just end up pissing people off unnecessarily.

Squink
08-17-2004, 12:08 AM
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/

Should get used a lot more around here. :-)
Are you one of those self-righteous assholes who's been hanging around in GQ lately, the ones who contribute nothing to a thread beyond a snide "google is your friend"? If so, just stay out of the fucking thread in the first place. The world already has enough jerks without your contribution.

Aeschines
08-17-2004, 12:25 AM
The site says, "There is an easter egg on the main page."

What does that mean?

(Should I google "easter egg"?)

Q.E.D.
08-17-2004, 12:36 AM
The site says, "There is an easter egg on the main page."
I reckon it's referring to this URL:

http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/mail/

...which is buried in a comment tag in the main page source.

CanvasShoes
08-17-2004, 01:08 AM
Webferret is way better'n google or copernic. thttttttppppppbbbbbbbbbbtttt!!!!

Tapioca Dextrin
08-17-2004, 08:40 AM
But I think it would probably be better to just link the person to the google search itself. If you really wanted to express some anger/frustration with the person you could say "here (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=sample+google+search+results+page)'s a really good site with a whole bunch of information about your question,"

Who on earth has the time to do that (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5165373&postcount=4)?

Ethilrist
08-17-2004, 09:43 AM
So, fighting ignorant, is that anything like the Notre Dame "fighting Irish?"

:)

See? I used a smilie. That means it's a joke.

Ponster
08-17-2004, 10:26 AM
I think I'll just put it in my sig !

fighting ignorant, does have a point though.


Questions like "Is Carmen Electra (sp.) her birth name?" from GQ are pretty much the only ones I know how to answer simply because I know how to goggle.

Tapioca Dextrin
08-17-2004, 10:41 AM
Questions like "Is Carmen Electra (sp.) her birth name?" from GQ are pretty much the only ones I know how to answer simply because I know how to goggle.

On the plus side to that qestion, the OP replied withsorry I should have googled!

Apology accepted :)

JohnBckWLD
08-17-2004, 12:11 PM
Are you one of those self-righteous assholes who's been hanging around in GQ lately, the ones who contribute nothing to a thread beyond a snide "google is your friend"?...The world already has enough jerks without your contribution.
[Self-Righteous Asshole]
We surely wouldn't want to impede these highly 'thought provoking' queries from being pondered:
[/Self-Righteous Asshole]

How many packets of duck sauce are wasted each year?
What exactly were the "Dark Ages"
What are 401(k) plans?
Any Oriental boxers?
How long could a human being survive on beer?
Why does this watch cost $52,800???
If we all exercised daily, ate perfectly, and didn't smoke would we die of nothing?
Do breadboxes work?
How do I aim a shotgun?
What do prostitutes do during their period?
What's a Continental Divide?
Are Germans, Swedes, and the Dutch noticeably different from each other looks-wise?
Does anyone still make overalls for adults?
Eating boogers – cannibalism?
What do dreams mean?
Why do Germans sometimes pronounce "V" as "W"?

Trigonal Planar
08-17-2004, 12:49 PM
Learning to Google comes second. First they need to learn how to use a mouse, how to type, and the highly complex concept that is an "icon".

scr4
08-17-2004, 01:15 PM
As much as I hate easily-googled questions, I wish people would still give proper answers or links to useful sites. Because people who do use Google to find the same information will find that thread. I really hate it when I use Google and all the hits are message board threads with the exact question I had, followed by a bunch of posts saying "just google it!."

fighting ignorant
08-17-2004, 10:32 PM
As much as I hate easily-googled questions, I wish people would still give proper answers or links to useful sites. Because people who do use Google to find the same information will find that thread. I really hate it when I use Google and all the hits are message board threads with the exact question I had, followed by a bunch of posts saying "just google it!."
That would be "just fucking google it" to you, buddy.

fighting ignorant
08-17-2004, 10:34 PM
So, fighting ignorant, is that anything like the Notre Dame "fighting Irish?"

:)

See? I used a smilie. That means it's a joke.
Well no, it's just that this board is for fighting ignorants since 1973. I was born in 1973, so I guess that means I belong here.

Jurph
08-17-2004, 10:47 PM
I am good at Googling. I was raised around computers, reference books, a mother who taught me good spelling and a father who relentlessly punned. I have a really good grip on what will make a search come out right, and what will yield links to see obscene pictures (which is one way for a search to come out right). I just get why certain words are wasted in a search bar, and why others narrow things down right to the point.

At the same time, I know lots of people who don't. If you're reading this thinking "who the hell does he think he is?", or "what does he mean, there are people who can't do it?" then you're probably a really good Googler with pretty geeky friends. Think of Google as a tool like a handsaw or a phone book. With practice, you can use one easily; without practice, you're liable to injure yourself.

I assure you, there are bad Googlers. I've had people, usually co-workers, marvel at how I can find the right link on the first try. A friend once complimented me on it, saying that she'd be asking me to do all of her web searches from now on, because I always found exactly what she wanted right away.

So next time you tell someone to "Just fucking Google it," be aware that maybe they're not as practiced with the tool as you are, and that using Google -- as amazingly intuitive as it may be for you -- might actually be something of a frustrating effort for them. Show a little compassion. And wow 'em with your badass Googlery.

calm kiwi
08-17-2004, 10:54 PM
I would be one of these bad googlers. I seem to have to do about six flipping searches to find anything useful. That is one of the reasons I love it here, all you expert googlers.

The King of Soup
08-18-2004, 12:31 AM
So exactly what is Google? Calm down. Joke. I know what Google is. I also have a decent home reference shelf, a car with which I can drive to the library, paper on which I can pen queries to the great thinkers of our time, and a telephone which allows me to communicate with almost anyone in the world who is willing to speak to me. These resources, combined, can not only answer almost any question that may occur to me, but also provide me with independent information about the sources that allows me to evaluate the reliability of the answer(s) I get. It's a wonder that anyone bothers with sdmb at all. Except it isn't. This forum permits me to ask a question, get several answers and critiques of those answers, some responses that may refine my question so that it is more precise and productive, and a few comments that provide additional information that I didn't ask for but should have or that suggest other areas to explore. On top of that, it is a social forum, which means I get to have a dialogue with real people, one of whom might tell a joke or say something friendly or otherwise brighten my day. And to get all this, all I have to do is type a little and then be prepared to scroll past those folks who are boiling with indignation because they had to be sitting at their computer playing with the internet and then had to waste time replying to a thread to tell me that I was wasting their time. Then I get to someone who knows the answer, or part of it, and does not consider it beneath them to reply because it makes them happy to help, or they like meeting people, or they take the Straight Dope mission seriously, or they think the question is a waste of time but realize the best way to close a GQ thread is to answer it.

dnooman
08-18-2004, 01:57 AM
Well no, it's just that this board is for fighting ignorants since 1973. I was born in 1973, so I guess that means I belong here.
Not unless you can direct people to knowledge that helps them and others with the same problem. FYI alerting people to certain usages of google is fighting ignorance.

You certainly do not belong here if your only resource is Google, unless you have a specific expertise, Fuck Off!

Prove your worth, before you claim that we have none.

"Fighting Ignorant" might be construed as an agressive retarded person, but to call you that would be an offense to retarded people.

Wait a second, I forgot that you have some divine wisdom to impart to us, what was it? Feel free to google a good lie in order to save face. Jackass.

Jonathan Chance
08-18-2004, 07:31 AM
[Self-Righteous Asshole]
We surely wouldn't want to impede these highly 'thought provoking' queries from being pondered:
[/Self-Righteous Asshole]

How many packets of duck sauce are wasted each year?
What exactly were the "Dark Ages"
What are 401(k) plans?
Any Oriental boxers?
How long could a human being survive on beer?
Why does this watch cost $52,800???
If we all exercised daily, ate perfectly, and didn't smoke would we die of nothing?
Do breadboxes work?
How do I aim a shotgun?
What do prostitutes do during their period?
What's a Continental Divide?
Are Germans, Swedes, and the Dutch noticeably different from each other looks-wise?
Does anyone still make overalls for adults?
Eating boogers – cannibalism?
What do dreams mean?
Why do Germans sometimes pronounce "V" as "W"?

I just want to toss out there that these are the exact sort of questions that made Cecil's success possible.

Plus, I hate the 'google is your friend' elves. Part of the joy of GQ is the discussion of the answers.

fighting ignorant
08-18-2004, 08:07 AM
For the record, I just thought it was a funny URL.

Squink
08-18-2004, 09:14 AM
For the record, I just thought it was a funny URL.I thought so too, but Sweet Jesus, there sure are a lot of people who like to pontificate on which questions are worthy of GQ, and which are not!

Dunderman
08-18-2004, 09:20 AM
I really don't get this. This board is partly for answering questions. Why is it so much higher or better to use a search engine than to ask here? If you're so annoyed by questions, what are you doing in GQ to start with? If you don't want to answer, just don't. Where is the big problem here?

Ethilrist
08-18-2004, 09:43 AM
Well no, it's just that this board is for fighting ignorants since 1973. I was born in 1973, so I guess that means I belong here.
Not unless you can direct people to knowledge that helps them and others with the same problem. FYI alerting people to certain usages of google is fighting ignorance.
I think you just got whooshed. I hope you just got whooshed.

fighting ignorant
08-19-2004, 12:08 AM
I think you just got whooshed. I hope you just got whooshed.
roger that

pepperlandgirl
08-19-2004, 12:38 AM
So next time you tell someone to "Just fucking Google it," be aware that maybe they're not as practiced with the tool as you are, and that using Google -- as amazingly intuitive as it may be for you -- might actually be something of a frustrating effort for them. Show a little compassion. And wow 'em with your badass Googlery.

Man that's me. Google doesn't usually kick my ass, but when I use databases like Ebsco and Proquest, it takes FOREVER. I once needed to find a lit crit on Dracula, went to the proper date base and spent about an hour before i even found one.

:rolleyes:

Demo
08-19-2004, 03:37 PM
Are you one of those self-righteous assholes who's been hanging around in GQ lately, the ones who contribute nothing to a thread beyond a snide "google is your friend"? If so, just stay out of the fucking thread in the first place. The world already has enough jerks without your contribution.

AMEN to that, Squink! God, that drives me up the wall!

Polycarp
08-19-2004, 04:04 PM
There is one good reason for asking a GQ question that could be Googled -- and that is when one wants to get the Straight Dope (in the original sense) on the subject. I can think of a wide variety of topics on which the truth is out there on the Internet -- and so are the theorizings and ravings of a wide variety of folks whose lunacy is not so far advanced as to keep them from using MS Front Page to spread their bizarreries to whoever unwarily clicks on their site.

If for example I have a question on ethnolinguistics, there are several folks here that I know I can rely on the answers to: Jomo Mojo and Wendell Wagner come quickly to mind, and there are several experts on regions. Eva Luna for some strange reason seems to have a handle on the complex of cultures that is the Caucasus -- if I need to know something about Ossetians or Circassians, she's reliable. How far to trust the language superphyla theory is something I'm not going to find a good answer to outside the expertise of people whose insights I've come to trust.

Substitute in the intricacies of economics, the mysteries of Christian doctrine, what the heck Kant was talking about in his metaphysics, etc. -- someone in GQ has a handle on it, and can explain it, usually being able to give competing theories and how to judge between them.

Google (and its siblings) are wonderful tools for retrieving knowledge -- but not for evaluating it. And that's where GQ (and sometimes other forums) come in wonderfully handy.

Number
08-19-2004, 04:33 PM
As much as I hate easily-googled questions, I wish people would still give proper answers or links to useful sites. Because people who do use Google to find the same information will find that thread. I really hate it when I use Google and all the hits are message board threads with the exact question I had, followed by a bunch of posts saying "just google it!."That might be a concern on other message boards, but not here. The SDMB is excluded from Google searches by a robots.txt file.

Ludovic
08-20-2004, 08:49 AM
roger thatI thought you were a fighter, not a rogerer

Loach
08-21-2004, 09:11 AM
Think of Google as a tool like a handsaw or a phone book. With practice, you can use one easily; without practice, you're liable to injure yourself.

I'm sure it is possible but how do you injury yourself with a phone book? And how will practice help prevent those phone book related injuries? Just asking cause I got a big phone book ominously sitting on the shelf and I want to find out if I should be worried.

Fish
08-21-2004, 12:23 PM
Well, you could start by trying to look up Party Planning Services and end up connected to the Donner Party.

clairobscur
08-21-2004, 01:37 PM
The SDMB is excluded from Google searches by a robots.txt file.



I don't understand this. Could you expand on it a little?

Number
08-21-2004, 01:48 PM
Google uses automated programs to browse websites and index their content. There is a standard method (http://www.google.com/webmasters/3.html#B3) for webmasters to exclude part or all of their sites from these searches. For whatever reason, the SDMB admins have chosen to use this to make threads here unavailable to Google and other standards-compliant search engines.

ltfire
08-21-2004, 07:33 PM
I ask a lot of stupid questions because I have been banned from GOOGLE.
I am told that many of my words are very common and they are not included in my search. To add insult to injury, I am told that the ‘AND’ operator is unnecessary. On the day they banned me, they asked a parting question, to wit.’.have you heard of the SDMB?’ :smack:

Sam Stone
08-21-2004, 11:43 PM
There's nothing wrong with asking a question on the straight dope, no matter how easy it is to find the answer elsewhere. EVERY question could be answered elsewhere if one is willing to dig hard enough - the Straight Dope has no monopoly on information. People like to use this place to ask their questions, even people who know how to use Google just fine, because they like the way their questions get answered. You don't just get facts, you get background info, opposing viewpoints, debunking of erroneous answers, etc. Things you don't get on Google without a lot of work.

People should just lighten up about being the question police. There are no bad questions - just bad answers.

Sam Stone
08-21-2004, 11:46 PM
And here's a good idea - If you don't like a question, don't answer it. In fact, you might just consider ignoring the whole thread. There are plenty of others.

t-keela
08-22-2004, 09:51 PM
Google uses automated programs to browse websites and index their content. There is a standard method (http://www.google.com/webmasters/3.html#B3) for webmasters to exclude part or all of their sites from these searches. For whatever reason, the SDMB admins have chosen to use this to make threads here unavailable to Google and other standards-compliant search engines.

Since when? I run across SDMB threads on Google all the time. In fact I have used Google before when doing a search for something discussed on the SDMB. Especially when the search engine is down at the Dope. But not recently! I will go now and see if I can pull up some SDMB threads via Google.com ~later t/k

t-keela
08-22-2004, 10:08 PM
Well I'll be damned Number, damned if it ain't so. I originally found this place from a Google search and used it a number of times to find stuff at the SDMB. I imagine people were using Google to find quotes that they'd cite without permission from the Reader. That'd explain shutting down the search ability here to guests as well. Must've been part of the upgrade last Spring. I learn something everyday here if I try hard enough.
I guess I'm just hacking away at my own ignorance. That's a good thing! ;)

Ditto what Sam said. "If you don't like a question, don't answer it."
Always good advice that is.

t-keela
08-23-2004, 08:47 PM
I was in another thread that asked how people found the boards. It prompted me to recall that I did in fact use a different search engine to get here, not Google. It still finds posts made to these boards.

norinew
08-23-2004, 08:59 PM
I'm glad more folks don't use Google to find their answers! I'll be browsing GQ, and read a question that makes me think "hmmm, I should read this thread; I'd like to know what the answer to this question is, even though I'd have never thought to ask". Plus, as others have pointed out, I like the exchange of ideas that accompanies the answers. I mean, let's face it, if Cecil just gave flat-out factual answers to the questions folks send him, we wouldn't love him so much. He gives facts and pontificates on the answers. Google will not give you that!

CanvasShoes
08-23-2004, 09:32 PM
Well I've hardly ever ventured into GQ, but I'd a darn sight rather have one of our dopers with their clever ways of putting things answer a Q for me than search engines.

And as Sam said "so what?, what's it to ya"???? don't like it, don't read them, sheesh, how hard is that?