"We couldn't refrain from asking....Is there intellegent life in Iceland?

Somebody please tell me if the following retorical questions have a place in the GQ forum:

If Iceland is such a Utopia why are they members of the evil North American Treay Organization? Why did their representative vote for the bombing?

How can a nation like Iceland have any self respect if they can't even defend themselves with their own army? Why must America do it for them?

Aren't Icelanders today responsible for all the rape, plunder, and pain inflicted by their Viking anscestors? (I'm of Irish desent and have blonde hair. I personally blame Thorwhatsit for the rape of my great-great-great-great-great-etc grandmother!)

I don't care where you are from, such ill-informed retorical questions put in such terms are just rude.

Thorwhosit riles up the worst nationalistic feelings in people like me. And I don't like it. I have better things to do than to justify the actions of the greatest democracy on Earth to an ignorant troll.

However, we let him bait us, and then after everybody jumps to defend the flag and attempts to make him understand our point of view, he congradulates himself for spurring a useful debate. If he is taking his cue from the lighthearted exchanges on the War of 1812 thread, he failed miserably. It's obvious to me that Thormacallit has neither the wit, finesse, style nor intelligence for such an exchange.

In the greatest traditions of Thoramajig I ask the following:

Hey Thor! Do you still beat your wife?

Papa, I think I love you! *smooch*!
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Oops -- I forgot this was the BBQ Pit:
Thor -- you're a twit. *kick in the butt*

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Full of 'satiable curtiosity

Just to remind you off one thing, Papabear. NATO does not stand for North American Treaty Organization, but North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

I think Iceland voted on the bombing to show unity within NATO.

Iceland has never had an army. Nevertheless Iceland has never lost a war. Iceland was at war with the Brittish in the 60's and 70's, when Iceland decided to expand their national waters to 200 miles. It was called the Cod war. Iceland had no warships, but won all the same. Now every country on this planet benefits from Icelands victory, which was won without a single drop of blood being shed.

As for the Vikings. They were among the finest artists the world has ever known. Many sagas and poems still exist from that time, and were surprisngly all written by an Icelandic viking named Snorri Sturluson. It is no coincident that a whole era of human history has been named after the vikings. Their ships and seamanhip was unparalleled at that time. It was the year 1000 AD that an Icelandic viking named, Leifur Heppni Eiriksson, or Leif the Lucky Ericsson, discovered Vinland(Wineland) which today is refered to as America.

Papabear; I dont think you are being very subjective. Your ignorance, and rage reveal you to be quite naive.

Excuse my spellig. English is my second language and I don't have a spellchecker.

Greetings, Hoe.

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correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm sure you will), but I think papabear's point was that those types of questions serve no purpose other than to piss people off....they are inflamatory and full of half-truths, or at least truths twisted to show things in the worst possible light. I think he was trying to say that questions put in that way (as were a few of Thor's questions) have no place on this message board.

Hoe - You have read my entire post out of context. I was illustrating the absurdity of Thor's anti-Ameican posts by doing the same in respect to Iceland. Read the opening sentence. Clearly my opinion is; no, they are not appropriate, logical, or objective questions. My only ignorance is in expecting people to carefully read what I have written! I await an apology (but I won't hold my breath)

Thanks, Yep! I'm glad someone got it.

well I see you found yourself a new site to hide in.
If you rise above your nationalism for a sec you would soon discover that I was not attacking "The Greatest Democracy On Earth" but merely pointing out that their might be a problem or two in your foreign polecy among other things.
I 'm also gonna point out that your question has nothing in common with mine. For ins. I never asked how your wife was doing (barking I guess)

I can't recall having attacked you personally, but wherever I post a topic you show up and insult me.

So let's keep up the fun.

THOR

Your just not worth the trouble, Thor.

Then butt of Kid!!!!

Okay, Thor.

Here's the deal. Your grasp of English is not firm enough to comprehend any of the points I'm making. Maybe you are not a troll. Maybe you are just linguistically tactless.

Perhaps logic gets lost in the translation. I don't know. I have no confidence that my own facility for other languages could pass muster on anything above a tourist level.

I don't think you are equipted to engage in any kind of usefull debate in English. You misinterpret what others post and you're own posts are often baffling (but of Kid?). Any idioms or cultural references are lost on you. ("Do you still beat your wife" is an oft used example of an unfair question.

I'm sorry you feel I am picking on you. You said things that I couldn't let stand. Hypocrasy of the sort you were posting will almost always be met with sarcasm and assumptions about your intelligence.

I will no longer try to explain to you why your posts are offensive. Without first understanding the most basic nuances of the language I feel that is impossible. Let me just state that they are offensive. In the future you should probably try discussing such topics in a forum that uses a language you are more familiar with.

SHAME on you, Pb, for hiding here in the BBQ pit in hopes the Thormagummy couldn't find you!Excuse my spellig. English is my second language and I don't have a spellchecker. Greetings, Hoe. I, for one, am perfectly willing to forgive your spellig. However, at this time I am unable to overlook the fact you have named yourself after a gardening implement.

Dear Nickrz

For the record: I am NOT THOR. Although THOR has used my computer to access this site, I want you to know I am a seperate entity. THOR introduced me to this site and I find it entertaining and interesting.

Be well, Hoe.

PS: As for the name, it's my middle name, Hoe, originated in France. I am a Hugenot.

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THOR -- NOW you say:

If you rise above your nationalism for a sec you would soon discover that I was not attacking "The Greatest Democracy On Earth" but merely pointing out that their might be a problem or two in your foreign polecy among other things.

"Merely pointing out" a "problem or two" my Aunt Fanny! You come in here and post questions that are provacative and hostile and then act surprised that people tell you to get stuffed. To then act like you HAVEN'T been a troll indicates that you are stupid as well as ill-mannered. And I wouldn't pick a fight with PapaBear if I were you; he is merely making points that MANY of us are in absolute agreement with, and attacking him is an invitation to have a lot of other people join in kicking your ass. How old are you, anyway? Because your posts indicate you're about fourteen.

As for the Vikings. They were among the finest...

I used to be proud of my viking ancestry, but after reading the posts from Thor "then butt of kid"Leifer and Hoe... I'M SO ASHAMED!

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Gosh.... I like you people!!

Your so hmmmmm
American!

THANKS

Thor, just get you feeling international....Here is an ex-patriate Finlander, who currently waves around a Canadian flag.....just happen to think that yep, you must be a true bonafide putz..

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Cogito Ergo Vroom
I think therefore I ride fast...

I don't care about the Iceland shit, but I consider myself an educated Troll, so leave the Trolls alone.Unfortunate how "troll" became such a negative term in the discussion boards.

Hoe:
I am a Hugenot.

Is that yoda-ese for small?

Alright! I am Darth Vader. Hugenot is a secret word for a Dark Lord of the Sith. I wouldn't give a wookies ass about intelligent life of this puny planet in this slum of the galaxy.

Having said that, I'm afraid I'll have to turn all of you to the Dark Side. Maybe you can explain yourselves to the Emperor when he arives.

The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.


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I think I know why Thor dislikes America. The vikings were probably the first Europeans to reach the Americas. Lief Ericson and some other vikings made it to North Eastern Canada before Columbus sailed in 1492, but the Vikings were unable to establish settlements.

So, Thor probably wishes America had become Viking colonies instead of English colonies. Then he wouldn't need to learn English. Also, the Minnesota Vikings are upset they didn't make it to the Super Bowl last year. There is a lot of frustration about America among Thor and Scandinavian people.

Does Thor still beat his wife?

When did Thor quit using a vacuum cleaner for personal satisfaction?

Does Thor know it's not safe to ingest his own excrement?

Why is it that Thor kisses my rosey butthole every night before going to bed?

Why are the women in Iceland so ugly, and yet still won't give it up for Thor?

When did Thor quit shooting smack?

Why can't Thor afford to have his own computer living in the Icelandic paradise?

How much money would it take to make Thor let me tie him up and beat him... again?

Hey! These rhetorical questions are fun!

And last, not rhetorically, how does one go about making sure immigration cavity searches someone if he comes to visit this decrepit, flawed nation of ours?

"But of Kid" is, IIRC, an old Icelandic custom. Because the sheep are too fast for the overstuffed degenerate berserkers to catch, they make do with trained goats. Habits such as this explain why they were driven off the European mainland and forced to live on a live volcano.


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Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan
Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University
"You cannot reason a man out of a position that he did not reach through reason."

Isn't it about time for a lightning bolt?

(Impersonating a god's gotta be a frying offense!)

-Melin

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I'm a woman phenomenally
Phenomenal woman
That's me
(Maya Angelou)

. Because the sheep are too fast for the
overstuffed degenerate berserkers to catch, they make do with trained goats.
Ah, that would explain the horned hats- a decoy/desguise..

(excuse me while I forge my geneological records)

I think Thor just needs a vacation during the long winters in Iceland somewhere nice and warm, like the Mediterranean or Florida.

No, ve're not Fikings, ve're yust friendly Svedish fishermen. Ve disguise ourselfs as moo-cows; moo-cows don't scare the fishies...

Yu see any Fikings, Sven? No?

Yu see any Fikings, Olaf? No?

See, no one seen any Fikings here, by Odin.. um, I mean By Yiminy!

( Do you think it fooled them? Okay, burn the houses, steal the sheep, and rape the women. And Sven, try to get it right this time...)


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Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan
Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University
"You cannot reason a man out of a position that he did not reach through reason."

Personally, I think some of the posts here have gone way overboard. Yes, Thor is a troll, but that's no excuse for the kind of racial, ethnic and anti-foreign comments I'm seeing here. Even if Thor knew he was being a jerk--Whether he was malicious or just ignorant is not the point here. Ignorance is no excuse, for unrepentant poor behavior, but neither is being offended.--he was never personal. You people, though, have stooped way below his level, making fun of both his and his innocent friend Hoe's names, ancestry and country of origin. For people who are so quick to point out any sort of over-generalizion when it affects you, you sure don't seem to mind making derogatory comments about an entire nation of people when one of them pisses you off. In my opinion, attacking the spelling and grammar of Thor and Hoe (What did Hoe ever do to you?! He never even defended Thor, just his country, and you styart making fun of his name and ancestry.) is especially low. Do you make fun of immegrants and tourists as well? Papa Bear, how would you respond if the kids in your classroom started attacking a foreign exchange student who had a made couple of possibly inadvetant derrogatory statemants about America? Besides, I really don't understand the way some of you respond to trolls here. If their purpose is to stir up anger and controversy by making provocative statements, why do you take the bait so readilly. It seems like ignoring them would make them leave a lot quicker than giving them exactly what they want. It may be hard to ignore jerks in real life, but on a message board, it should be easy. Instead, you say things that would quickly get you shot or beaten up in real life.

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to defend Thor, although he does seem to have made an attempt to behave better since he started. Cross cultural experiences are always trying, but I would cut people like that a little extra slack, rather than holding it against them. Maybe Thor is in fact a little insensitive and naive. He was admittedly slow to take a hint (or even a direct confrontation). There is still no reason to go overboard.

Papa Bear, how would you respond if the kids in your classroom started attacking a foreign exchange student who had a made couple of possibly inadvetant derrogatory statemants about America?

For cryin' out load, Alan. Read my posts before you slam me, will you?

The only derogatory comments I made about Iceland were the one's I made to illustrate the illogic and unfairness of Thor's OPs. You ask me, "how would I feel...?" That's exactly the question I was asking.

Again, I await an apology. (and again I'm not going to hold my breath.)

PS - "inadvertant" my ass!

but that's no excuse for the kind of racial, ethnic and anti-foreign comments I'm
seeing here.

Huh? This is the friggin' BBQ pit.

For people who are so quick to point out any
sort of over-generalizion when it affects you, you sure don't seem to mind making
derogatory comments about an entire nation of people when one of them pisses you
off. In my opinion, attacking the spelling and grammar of Thor and Hoe (What did Hoe
ever do to you?! He never even defended Thor, just his country, and you styart
making fun of his name and ancestry.) is especially low.

I never took anything Thor said personally, and I don't think most of the other posters lost any sleep over his comments either. I posted here for fun, not to "avenge my country" or whatever. Other "anti-Iclandic" posts on here were intended as a parody of his posts. You needn't take stuff here so seriously- the BBQ pit is the cyber equivilent of a water balloon fight, not a world war.

Thanks Alan.
I think you are the best movie director in the world. :)

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Alan: Yes, i make fun of europeans. I run up to them and scream obsceneties in spanish to them, and steal the candy from theri babies. I also make immigrants pick the ticks off of my dog.(SARCASM! =) ). Alan, read the friggin title of the message board, we can flame, and piss people off that is the point of this board.For you alan: ¡Aquí, puede hablar sobre otras personas!

I just wanted to point out to all of the Thorleifur bashers that I am no tthe Icelandic gent who has been causing all of this flaming. I am from Colorado and love the good ole U S of A. I have been getting a few flames here and there from folks who confuse me and Thorleifur.

Man, did I pick the wrong name!

All right, everyone, time for a contest! Let's come up with a new name for Thor. My personal choice is "ThunderGod!"

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter Thompson

a name for thor eh? how about....MC hammer (you know, since the god Thor had a hammer)? =).....no? ok...sorry =)

Thor was also known by the name Asathor.

It doesn't look good in English does it?


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Thor was also known by the name Asathor.

It doesn't look good in English does it?


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What about Odin?

Or Tyr?

Or Frey?

Or...LOKI? He's the ultimate bad as God.

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Or...LOKI? He's the ultimate bad as God.

Sounds good to me. Can we chain him up in a cave if he acts up? (:

I think Hermes fits me best. I only chose Thor because it is my racquetball alter ego (the racquette is my hammer. I know, you are all thinking "Dork." And I plead guilty. My partner calls herself Xena.) Or maybe if there is a god of boring married guys in middle management...?

So maybe I will reapply Under a new name. Although, I haven't seen Thorleiflur anywhere lately. I think you guys scared him off.

Thor wrote, among other things:

Or maybe if there is a god of boring married guys in middle management...?

Personally, I often invoke Marduk, which gets odd looks at meetings as everyone moves away...

Hey Thor, who says YOU get to vote on this?
Don't worry, you can trust us to come up with something that is very dignified and tasteful. Like Red Ruffenthor. Or Flemming Ayniss.

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter Thompson

Yes, only if there is a snake, dripping poison on his face when his mother has to empty the collection bowl.


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I thought it was Loki's wife that emptied the bowl of poison. Don't tell me that even Norse Mythology is different in Iceland!

Another name for Thor???? Who gives a rat's ass!!! Pick another character from the great pantheon of Marvel Superheroes. I think Sue Storm or Iron Man could whip that hammer jockey two out of three falls...

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Semper Gumby (Always Flexible)

OK, guys, points taken. I guess I must have sat on a broom handle that day. I still think some of you got a little to worked up, but I sure didn't mean to come across like an angry schoolmaster! I still think insults against ethnic groups are out of place anywhere, but looking back, I guess I missed the lightheartedness of most of it. I just don't like to see people chased away--even if they deserve it; I'd rather see them "killed with kindness," to use a cliche. (Not that that's what I usually do. That's just how I think you people should behave. ;))

PS--I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond. I lost my internet access recently, so I'm having to make do with the computers at the public library for now. (What a dork, I know.) I hope the relevant people are still hanging around to read this. :)

For a good time, call Thorleifur:

800-BUTT-OF-KID

Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

This was one of the funniest threads I have ever read, IMHO.



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"[He] beat his fist down upon the table and hurt his hand and became so
further enraged... that he beat his fist down upon the table even harder and
hurt his hand some more." -- Joseph Heller's Catch-22

<just to clear things up a bit; do not excuse spellig errors please, they are meant as an insult>

the discussion here seems to have gone from papabears intelligent question about exacly that in iceland to the point where gods are raping sheeps in america (notice the connection later)

if we connect the two together, that is those gods we are talking about and the countries of the world, i take for example 3 countries; iceland, england and amerika.
how do those countries talk about god(no mentinoning in sheeps here anyone?). Lets take england first, they are very modest: "god bless the queen".....no worries then for anybody else then. Iceland: "our god (or gods if you go back to the viking religion) bless our country", pretty selfish yes, but we aren't bothering anybody else. Amerika: "god bless amerika".....im not saying i belive in dog or anything, but according to numerous statistics over 95% of the human race does, and belive me 95% of the human race DOESN'T LIVE IN AMERIKA. (please tell me you could sense a bit of kindness in those words of mine, please...i would hate to think of hoe coming after me with his lightsabre). considering all im saying here tells me that america (95% of the population there anyway) belives in dog and that dog blesses everyone of them, exept for the whitehouse, which explains why it isnt dirty like the rest of the 95%.
......what?? no, i meant thats where dogs outhouse is.

bj0rn

bj0rn----

What??????

I don't know about Iceland, but in the US, "god" and "dog" are not synonyms.

please do not excuse my spelling errors, they are meant as an insult :o)

An insult to who? You?

If you're going to post in the BBQ Pit, don't go for subtlety.

do i really have to read between the lines for you? or are you saying that because you think i directed those words i said personally to you, and you have to turn them into some sort of joke to make you feel better. and if feeling better is all you want i suggest you get comfortable with the idea that there is intelligent life in iceland, backing that up with mans best friend the dog, he who blesses amerika. now if you understand that, you can consider yourself intelligent too, and one of the 5% who have independent ideas about their way of life

I don't think that there are actually any people from Iceland on this thread. It appears that there is a random word generator spewing out replies.

all I have to say is: the purple dream of intelligent dog bilnds the tree with effortless sleeping sports....in Iceland.

I still think it would be child abuse to saw off a kitten's arm.

-Quadell

No, bj0rn, I didn't think your message was directed at me. As a matter of fact, I don't know what it was about, because it was so filled with misspellings and gramatical errors.

You don't have to worry about me feeling better or looking towards you to validate my intelligence, either. This is a friendly message board, not the end-all, be-all sum of existance. Your opinion has zero effect on my life.

Bj0rn said
"im not saying i belive in dog or anything, but according to numerous statistics over 95% of the human race does"

Hey Bj0rn,

Does this include the Koreans and Chinese who eat dogs? Would you consider this the highest form of dog worship? By the way, what exactly have your people been doing since they raped Papabear's great, great, great, great, etc grandmother?

spelling error are meant as an insult, please do not excuse them

if you really think i was referring to the animal DOG then you should go see a vet.

and that thing about pababears g.g.g.g.g.grandmother, i do think he would be boring without that incident, he just wouldnt be pababear

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you live an intelligent life, please hope everybody else does too! no need to mention the hell you would be going through if you were the only intelligent being on the planet

Hi folks, I'm new here and of course the first thing I had to do is read the BBQ pit. I've managed to refrain from any remarks so far, but I just can't stand it any more.

#1: Quadell: kittens don't have arms

#2: This bjorn person - is he/she/it for real? I've never met anyone before who has had a frontal lobotomy!

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sosumi

Coosa: Not after all the child abuse that's going on! Not to mention black coffee. The term "smegmavore" doesn't begin to cover it.

-Quadell

"spelling error are meant as an insult, please do not excuse them"

Deliberate ignorance is less inexcusable than undeliberate ignorance. It must be so exciting living in a bleak place devoid of resources. "I deliberately call you Oaf instead of Olaf. Big insult, Ha, Ha. I am so clever!" By the way, exactly where in Siberia is Icleand located? See, I misspelled Ickland. Go see a druid.

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It may be that your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

Reading this thread over the last month and a half, it occurs to me that few of the people posting to this thread have any idea what the intent of my OP was. I was trying to point out to a poster (who has long since disappeared) how offensive his questions were to Americans by turning the tables and asking the same type of assanine questions in regard to his own country (Iceland).

The following links will take you to the threads I was reacting to:

http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000853.html

http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000854.html

There were a couple more OPs in this same vein, but I really don't feel like trying to dig them up.

When I posted the OP to this thread, I expected, perhaps a few well reasoned comments about trolling and maybe bait Thorwhatsit into displaying his ignorance for all to see. I wasn't disappointed in either of these regards. What I din't expect was a bunch of rather offensive jokes about Iceland, people misreading my OP as an anti-Iceland tirade, or the emergence of two more FUCKING MORONS, who just happen to be from Iceland.

The title of this thread was a play on the title of one of the threads I was objecting to. I even put it in quotes. Imagine my surprise, when the three Yank-hating blithering idiots who responded were all Icelanders!

So know I ask specifically: Is there intelligent life in Iceland? Can somebody from that country PLEASE make one intelligent comment, just to negate the impression some of your dim-witted countrymen have left us with? Do all Icelanders feel that Americans have less cause to love and admire their country than you do? Do you blame us for having more impact on the World's culture than you do?(see the American Invasion thread). And lastly, can anybody explain to me what "Butt of kid" means?

Iceland: "our god (or gods if you go back to the viking religion) bless our country", pretty selfish yes, but we aren't bothering anybody else. Amerika: "god bless amerika".....im not saying i belive in dog or anything, but according to numerous statistics over 95% of the human race does, and belive me 95% of the human race DOESN'T LIVE IN AMERIKA.
Okay, bj0rn... would it make you feel better if I said "God bless our country" rather than "God bless America?" I'm not from your Utopian Iceland and couldn't possibly under the semantics of my native language, a language that you're so fluent in that you make frequent spelling mistakes.
spelling error are meant as an insult, please do not excuse them
Your spelling is insulting: to any intelligent life that may exist in Iceland, which brings us back to PapaBear's initial question.

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"[He] beat his fist down upon the table and hurt his hand and became so
further enraged... that he beat his fist down upon the table even harder and
hurt his hand some more." -- Joseph Heller's Catch-22

Papabear said: It's pretty easy to be holier than us (U.S.) when you don't have any responsibilties to the rest of the world.

well excuse me! ill just sit back and let you save all the poor people in the world, defend the world from communists and fight the wars you create, no!

while im NOT praising my country of iceland, nobody really wants to live here, but a place even less appealing is america, reason?
...the public! those who have an egosystem the size of the galaxy.
did anybody see the movie id4? ...i wish hollywood had made an international version of the movie. the thing is although the
united states of america do alot of good things in the world, doesnt mean they are the only ones capable of doing it, what i
dislike is people who press their opinions on other people, which is the reason i like straightdope alot :).

like here in iceland we have a politic party
(something not right here eh?), and before elections they said, "do not vote for a multi-party government, vote for the independence party"(exact translation, hate that name), like other parties couldnt have got 50% votes too! this is pressing belives on others, hate that.

who were bombing innocent people in former jugoslavia, nato (yes we all know what that stands for), but i personally dont want no part of it. the impression usa gave the world with their actions through nato
there was that they needed war, maybe the still suffer from charley(whatnot name)-syndrome, its called picking a fight with those who are smaller than yourself, for reasons like: to make sure they dont
get bigger than you and to try to prove you are the best

considering spellig errors: hoe said, Excuse my spellig. English is my second language and I don't have a spellchecker. ...yes i mentioned insults, but who was it i was insulting? please consider that before judging me. besides i would really
like to see you write in icelandic, if you can acomplish that on your own you have my respect. most of the posts here i have read show some intellect yes, i cant deny that and i wont. but here we are 3 icelanders if papabears count is correct ;) who are being intelligent(people argue about that) in english, our second language as hoe
pointed out earlier, so you who are reading this are going to have to be a little bit more intelligent when you try to understand what we are trying to say here. so every time you mock our spelling and grammar you are demonstrating how you lack that bit of intelligence required to understand us.

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people who were trying to kill Gunnar at hillsend stopped just before they reached his house and asked themselves "i wonder if hes at home?", to make sure they sent one ahead to check it out, he crawled onto the roof to take a look inside through the grass, as he peeked inside Gunnars spear stabbed him in the stomach causing
him to fall down to the ground, he then crawled to his comrades who asked "was he home?", the poor hurt man said "that i do not know, but i do know that his spear was!"
from the book "brennu-njálssaga"
(icelandic history in fiction from approx. the year 1200, this book is based on facts happening in iceland around the year 1000,
demonstrating we can all be dumber than a spear)

I seem to have derected some new foolowers to this page and I like seeing them work Papabear back into action....

In the month I've been absent I checked with the USA consulate in Iceland and found that they actually rather nice poeple who did not, in any respect, like Papabears posts. They actually got very upset and were going to forward the matter to whomevery it may concern back in the States.

They, like me, did not feel that this sort of comments represented the American state of mind and felt it depreesing to know that this man actually tought children back in the states.

SO Papabear keep up the good work, if you still got one!!!

Love

THOR

Ps: I moved to Colorado

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

This isn't one of those countries where the secret police knock on the door and say, "Mr. PapaBear, we're going to have to take you down to the station. We have it on good authority (a 14 year old communist from Iceland) that you have been exercising your freedom of speech to defend your country against ill-reasoned, illogical, and illiterate criticism. Don't you know you could lose your job for that?"

Colorado? Good for you! You need to get out and see the real world. Just a word of advice; when you're in one of Colorado's fine drinking establishments, be totally open about your feelings toward the USA. They appreciate that kind of candor.

But I guess it's one of thouse countrys where they don't give teacher jobes to facicts!

But one the other hand I guess it must be treat to sit in on your class and listen to you rampage about things you don't have a clue about and wouldn't understand if you did!

Here's a little homework assignment, Thor. Find one, just one, fascist statement I have ever made. You have almost 1000 posts to choose from!

Thor (not Thor-inmyside), similar screen names, soon to be the same state - DO SOMETHING NOW!. Change your screen name, (Odin, maybe?) move to another state, whatever it takes!! People on the SDMB will confuse the two of you, and you will be unfairly persecuted. You can't let his happen!!

Thorinmyside, PapaBear should've been a little more specific. The best bars to go to share your views are not in the big cities like Denver or Colorado Springs. Go to a bar in one of the smaller towns (plenty of them in CO) and share your views with the locals there.

bj0rn, are you an agnostic flea by any chance?

Calling upon the states to be the greatest democrecy on earth hugely deminishes other republics such as Iceland and England. Two of the oldest republics in the world...

You have made continous attacks on me my countryman and my country.
For all that I would just call you stubit, brainwashed or ignorant but for the following statement I stamp you as a facict

"I look forward to the day that the average Begrade citizen is forced to spend a day in Prestina of Sebrinicia digging up mass graves with their bare hands."

You would like to see that and at the same time you feel yourselv as a humanloving angel.

You are a sad speciment but a useful one, You see it's by people like you that the rest of us can compere yourselves and find that were pretty much OK.

Greeting

So, let me get this straight. You don't blame 1990s Serbs for the massacre of Bosnian and Kosovar Moslems in the 1990s, but you do blame 1990s Americans for the massacre of Native Americans 100 years ago?

Look up "hypocrite" in your English/Icelandic dictionary!

Yes I do but you think that miss. Karasich of Belgrade street 23, a waitress in the local cafe should be send by force to Prestina to dig up corpses with her bare hands??

I do admit that me earlier comments on Americans where irational and a bit shortsighted but that does not mean they where the right thing to do!

first of all, please do not yell at us for being bad at the english language. when i originally said you should be offended by all spellig mistakes i made, it was meant to create reactions hopefully towards the conclucion that you would realize english is a second (academically speaking the third, because we started learning danish before we started learning english) language, and making yourself understood in a second(third)
language is much more difficult than it is in your native language. i would now like to point out i am glad we are all intelligent beings who do not personally attack each other, just because of different opinions and language. i mean, where is the intelligence in that? i consider war a stupid thing, i consider violence a stupid thing, something the bigger and stronger resort to when all else fails. referring to me as a flea proves me right there, and i find that statement to stupid to reply to, unless naturally you want to acknowledge the fact that you have been outsmarted by a flea :). complaining about it wont do either because as the famed comedians in monty python said so brilliantly: "an argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a propersition". not just futile attack on other persons in the hope that they get so offended they will run away. afther that you wont be able to speak to anyone intelligent enough to establish anything. you just have stupid contradiction.

really people! this is bad, no posting in reply to mine? does that mean you agree? i would say that, we all consider silence as yes here right? never thought having the last word would feel like this ;)

How can we respond to gibberish? Thanks to your lack of capitalization, punctuation, grammar, and general lack of knowledge of English, it's impossible to understand you.

In my last posting under the name of Thor, which keeps getting me confused with Thorleifur, I would just like to respond to the one thing I understood in bjorns post:

HE quoted Monty Python: "An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition"

No it isn't

yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction

Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contradictory position!

Yes, but it is n't just saying, "no it isn't!"

Yes it is!

No it isn't!

(argument discontinued because of copyright concerns)

Ding! Time is up!

myndir þú frekar vilja að ég sendi á íslensku og leyfa þér að þjást af því að þurfa að skilja annað tungumál?

would you prefer if i posted in icelandic, and give you the headache of understanding another language?
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talandi um það, enskumælandi fólk er ekki eina gáfaða fólkið í heiminum.

speaking of which, english speaking people arent the only intelligent people in the world.

and please read the topic, specially the word intellEgent, correct me if im wrong!

now would you please stop this grammar and spelli-g error thing if you cant fix it yourself.

and as someone said, deliberately acting stupid isnt an excuse. so dont dismiss everything you dont understand as gibberish.

I prefer if you posted it in ENGLISH, instead of gibberish. If you want to engage in debate, you should be able to express your position clearly and consisely. I wouldn't try to post to an Icelandic board unless I was fluent in your language. It would be counterproductive.

For the record, I never said that only English speaking people were intelligent. Putting words in my mouth won't win arguements, either.

Bjorn, I also speak other languages with some competence. So I respect your understanding of English.

The problem is that your English is very hard to understand. When arguing a point on this board, you need a high level of competency in English. Even some native speakers on this board sometimes have trouble conveying a cogent idea.

Perhaps your english skills would improve if you were to join an English as a Second Language chat site.

I don't have any idea what you're trying to say, either bj0rn (If you even remotely share the views of your countryman, Thorliefur, that's probably a good thing). I would suggest that you seek out an Icelander with better command of English than yourself and have him help you compose your posts. Otherwise, you just come off sounding like an imbecile.

By the way, to the left of the "Z" key is a key that says "Shift". Try using that for starters.

If the above sounds like too much work, please just post in Icelandic from now on. At least, that way, one or two people might be able to understand what you are saying.

Ok, I'm back.

I can't believe you´re still posting to this stupid thread, but since you are, and this is the BBQ-pit, I think it best to put a few words in for those blathering idiotic nazi lesbian hookers that call them selves PabaBear and other pedophilic names.

It's obvious that these PapaLolitaBears and other Nazi-Americans want this site to be PURE AMERICAN. NO FOREIGHNERS. AUSLÄNDER RAUS. Write pure, totally correct English or you're out. Better still, don´t post at all if you're not a nationalistic-American.

You idiots have nothing to argue with anymore, so you attack our spellig. When you've run out of arguments you attack the person you're dealing with. You sad little megalomaniacs are so saturated by political propaganda that you don´t have personal identities anymore. You are mass produced through propagandafactories. Oh, yes, we stupid Icelanders and Sweedes, or the rest of the fucking world, can't form sophisticated sentenses, but I've got the feeling that some of what we are saying gets through your thick skulls.

So why the hell put that up as an argument?

Iceland is a fucking banana republic when it comes to certain issues, but it is heaven compaered to the bloodthirsty Goo Ol U.S of A, who create small wars here and there to boost up the economy, which relies alot on arms sales abroad, and then fly in and "rescue" everybody. And they do so with airpower becuse they don't have the guts to FACE an nemy. Also anyone knows the American army is worst in the western world. The Brittish and the French have the right stuff, anything else is just a toy. America has never won a war on its own, if you cout out the civil war and Granada(what? 12 Cuban soldiers and you have to make a movie about it?)

I do not rest my case, I don´t have time for more.

F*** Off


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Thorleifur:hugely deminishes other republics such as Iceland

I would venture to say you are doing a fine job of that all by yourself.

bj0rn: [/QUOTE] i would now like to point out i am glad we are all intelligent beings who do not personally attack each other[/QUOTE]

bj0rn, Hoe. Hoe, bj0rn.

Hoe:You are mass produced through propagandafactories.

'Round these parts we call 'em hospitals.

Hoe:Oh, yes, we stupid Icelanders and Sweedes, or the rest of the fucking world, can't form sophisticated sentenses

No, no. Just you.

F*** Off

Nice. You kiss your mother with that mouth?

C'mon, kiddies, really. The Straight Dope knows no bounds. This thread (insomuch as I can gather, anyway) was started as response to Thorleifur's previously cited, unsubstantiated statements. Now I'm going fishing and I want this mess cleaned up by the time I get back.

Well, at least I can figure out what Hoe is trying to say!

Hoe, It's obvious that you hate the United States, but why do you hate me? What have I done, other than point out how misguided, illogical and hypocritical Thorliefur's posts were? What evidence could you possibly have that I am a pedophile, a Nazi, or a megalomaniac?

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you dislike me because I love my country, and don't appreciate it being trashed without some sort of rational arguements against it.

I have made absolutely no disparaging remarks about your country, except in the context of showing how wrong some of the anti-American posts you defend are. The only disparaging remarks I've made about you and your two friends were when I called you hypocrites, morons, and blitherring idiots. All the evidence anybody needs to confrirm these observations is right here on this thread.

Well, if bjorn gets to speak in icelandic, i guess we can speak to him/her in any second language we have some faculty over? :) (Alluding to the fact that not all Americans are monolingual and do not understand how hard it is to speak in a second language.)

Bjorn (Byorn)

Your use of Amerika to insult doesn't work. In fact that's how Amerika is rendered in a many other languages. ¡Necesitas hacer más mejor para que puedes insultarnos más eficientemente!

Hoe: We didn't say you had to have perfect control over English. You just need to be understandable.

On the other hand, Hoe, I don't recall anyone criticising your "spellig".

to begin with: sly, do consider backing your words up with more than just a smart reply. are we in this for the laugh?

Doobieous, i(i hate capital letters, sorry but im comfortable with it) am not trying to use america as an insult, i was using the insult thing to see who were stupid enough to be offended by it(im not saying who, if you are so darn smart figure it out yourself).

considering the fact papabear contributes to this thread: "I don't have any idea what you're trying to say" and that intellEgent topic of his makes me think about what you have to be to understand other people. i do understand what you are saying, and i dont even speak your language for crying out loud. the fact that you dont understand what i am saying tells me a few things about the persons involved. either you are to narrow minded to accept ideas and views from non-english people, Doobieous(language genius who all should admire) excluded. to stubborn to admit that i am right. or to stupid to look past a few grammar and spelling errors of your own language to understand it. (i do belive hoe wrote it quite brilliantly). if you are not able to share views from people all over the world then i know why you are still fighting ignorance, maybe you should start with yourselfs. pointing out whats wrong with other people will not cure your own flaws, no matter how small they are. and without posting another tread i would like you to consider if you think there is intelligent life in america, and i am not asking if you can find one intelligent american.
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if you dont understand what im trying to say, you might well be a narrow minded (lots of swearing you dont like) person who should see a doctor in one of your "hospitals"(as sly so brilliantly described the place most people are born, fixed and killed in tv shows like "hello mom", "am i an american or the rest of the world?" and the most famous of them all "shot in the stomach")

Bjorn: Hmm is that a jab at me (oh great bjorn Icelandic God of great sarcasm!)? Anyway, i think that you missed the entire point of the thread. It was intended to jab at thorleifers "attacks" on the United States. This is the BBQ pit, meaning sarcasm runs high (meaning we pick on your grammar because its all in the name of teasing, im sure if the tables were turned you would do the same). Also, we dont give a S*** where you come from. Have you seen Anti-icelandic posts on 99% of this website? i think not. Just this one single topic, that got you all riled up.

If we made serious verbal attacks on your country you would get quite nationalistic, and you too would flame those of us who are making fun of iceland (Ooops, too late, you ARE doing just that!). The United States is FAR from perfect, yet, you and all of the other Íslendingur who seem to prejudge the ENTIRE populace of the United States (What if i said all icelanders were whale eating, pasty skinned, snobs? I surely would get a verbal attack for being prejudiced).

You complain that those of us who have sufficient faculty (NOT PERFECT control, even most native English speakers do not have perfect control) over English just want this for English speakers. Well, i hate to break it to you but MOST of the people here speak English with some fluency. You take your chances with web sites that aren't in your native language. NO ONE has told you you cannot come here. If you want to be understood in a second language, expect to learn enough of it to make sense. I dont expect people who speak Spanish to hold my hand and accept that Spanish is just not my language so they should all pay no mind when i don't make sense in it.

pointing out whats wrong with other people will not cure your own flaws

Perhaps you should listen to your own advice Bjorn.

is seems like i have to clear up some details about this mess here. first of all, i try to refrain from personally attacking anybody unless that person really deserves it, the reason i posted on this thread is not to argue about the topic, i was and am still trying to explain to people that beating their wife wont do no one any good. it may be that someone raped papabears g.g.g.g.g.g.grandmother as he claims (i do take things said seriously) but im also sure that person is quite dead now, and stirring up the dead never did anyone any good!

no Doobieous i wasnt jabbing at you, although i understand why you thought i was, this is the bbq pit. please belive that what i said was true. about the other things you said i quite agree, although you and nobody else can deny that it doesnt apply only to us icelanders in this thread. considering i wasnt in this thing from the start (this dispute or whatever between thorleifur and papabear) which led papabear to post an entire thread meant to verbaly abuse another sentient being(ok, we have been arguing about if that is true ;))

finally i thank you Doobieous for quoting from my previous postings, i see that someone understands what im saying and by that earnes the title the most intelligent being i have argued with in this tread. but consider this also, by saying this i did consider what i was saying, i never kick anybody for something i did too.
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*unlike .......*

ATTENTION EVERYBODY (esp. anybody from Iceland): The remarks about Iceland in the OP of this thread were made to illustrate a point. I do not in anyway believe that they are either logical or accurate. I've made this point over and over, yet our three friends from Iceland seem inclined to only read what they want.
Thorliefur: you said, "I do admit that my earlier comments on Americans where irational and a bit shortsighted." Thank you for finally seeing what the point of this whole thread was.

Hoe: Many weeks ago, I explained to you what the intent of my OP was, and you totally ignored me and went on to indulge in the foulest name-calling I have ever seen on this board.

bjorn: Find an interpreter!

Dear, dear Papabear....

Even though I admitted to some of my flaws which you so elegantly portraited on your last reply I did not agree that the topic was correctly put forward. And I don't approuve of it in any way.

Sure I could go on and insult your mother, sisters and the rest of your family under the cover of demonstraiting but that would in itself be an insult. This is what you fail to see..

For ex. If I were to ask a policeman the following question,
; Pardon me officer but are you a child molestor;
he would probebly charge me with insulting an officer at work.
I would try to argue that I just asked him a question but the judge would come to the cunclusion that me question was meant as an insult.
(This judgement fell on the 23 of june 1996 in Icelands surpreme court. And since our system is based on the same origin ( namely the French system )I think this is compereble).

On the other hand I don't agree to Hoe's comments about Papabear or the others.
To call someone a Nazi is a very serios thing. That title representes actions and motives far beyond anything that apperes here. And to refer to people as Nazi's is an insult to the memorys of those how fell victims to the rea Nazi's.

Hoe my friend, don't waste your ammo all at once. There will always be more posts!!+

Have a nice day!!

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Thor

bj0rn:to begin with: sly, do consider backing your words up with more than just a smart reply. are we in this for the laugh?

Nope, just in it for the laugh.

Thorleifur,
A technical point: The laws of the U.S. follow the pattern set in English Common Law. The only place in the U.S. that follows the Napoleanic Code is the State of Louisiana, where the Napoleanic Code was in place at the time of that state's purchase from France.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled mud-fest. . . .

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Tom~

thank you sly, now we can promptly ignore whatever you are saying :)

papabear: does that compute, or do i have to draw for you a schematic.

Tomndebb....

I have been wandering. How come when someone makes a point where he exspects the respondant to think, the respontant chooses to point out the flaws instead of commenting on the issue.
Hmmmmmm.........

Dear PapaBear,

quote: "Hoe: Many weeks ago, I explained to you what the intent of my OP was, and you totally ignored me and went on to indulge in the foulest name-calling I have ever seen on this board."

I apologize. I truelly cruelly do. I had no right to call you, or anyone, those names. I'm sorry. Please forgive me.




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Thorleifur:I have been wandering.
Yes, I believe you have.

I have no intention of getting into this brawl as a participant. While many of the posts in this topic are amusing, they are hardly in the realm of serious discussion.
You made a specific point which contained a «technical» error. I pointed out the «technical» correction simply for your information. I did not challenge your statement or your conclusion. I did not insult you. If you choose to raise points of law with folks from the U.K., the U.S., and Canada, it will probably be of benefit to your discussion to know that we do not follow the Napoleanic code. It's no big deal.

If you consider the presentation of pure information with no judgments attached to be some sort of attack, you have probably wandered too close to paranoia for your own good.

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Tom~

you are still doing it! im starting to think you are pointing out all spelling errors because you are trying to avoid the truth of what we are saying, claiming we are illiterate suits you fine cause you think it is giving you a reason to ignore any truth our words display.

if not, i belive you have made yourself "stupid enough to live in iceland, DAD!"

BjOrn, if you are complaining because I tweaked Thorleifur on wondering/wandering, then you are far too sensitive to post on this board. I did not assume that it was a misspelling. I assumed that it was a typographical error (of the sort that I, myself, often make). I just found it to be a convenient hook into my response.

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Tom~

well in saying:

"I have no intention of getting into this brawl as a participant"

and then:

"I just found it to be a convenient hook into my response"

makes you a very silly person, no offence meant, just the pure and simple truth of it.

DAD: can you read this or should i ask: "hvað fékkstu í morgunmat?"

BjOrn, a "hook" (as I used the word) is an opening sentence that "catches" the eye and draws the reader into examining the rest of the post/article/essay/novel. It is not a barb to wound another or a fist swung with a circular motion to beat another.

The use of colloquialisms seems to confuse you.

Since I am looking to avoid fights (note that I have, so far, offered no opinion on the topic and made no attacks on any people) while you are looking to embroil yourself in fights, I will simply have to ignore you from now on. :::shrug:::

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Tom~

ill let thorleifur answer this, since hes the mastermind behind intelligent life in iceland < does anybody note the sarcasm there?? well please let me know if you do, couse im not sure if it was meant as such(stuff).

well anyhows, this breaks #100, do i get a prize?? :)

with a laugh in my heart and a kick in some arse(do you know which one?) i start eating my breakfast.

bj0rn

"Why can't we all just, get along"

There are signs of intelligent life in Iceland, although it has dampened and weakened after the internet revolution.

Is that due to outside effects, or do Icelanders just tend to get to damn wrapped up in pointless threads with pointless topics?

Perhaps we are forgetting that while the person might be smart, the crowd is stupid as a cow on drugs and on the internet we are talking about one fucking big stupid overdozed cow, which of we all are a part of.

So get used to it, there is no intelligent life to speak of. Only an overdozed cow.

m0

to thorwiththelongname and bjork (whatever!)

oh where to start,
#1, stop knocking papabear, guypropski and tomndeb...not only are they way, way better humans than you, they can out type/think you....
I am Canadian, and they have no problem with me, so they are hardly overly nationalistic in their attitudes toward other countries, I bet the people in Iceland are more offended/embarrased by your posts than by anything papabear will ever say...oh, and what can big bad old Iceland do even if they are mad?throw snowballs???you losers...do you even know how really lame you sound?
I am unable to decipher most of what you say...isnt there some place that you can post in a language that is easier for you to follow???
why not just start an Icelandic thread, and we'll all promise to stay away, then you can talk to yourselves all day, which is basically all you are doing now, and if you will excuse me from your verbal masturbation, I will go find a thread where everyone can understand what is being said.
Tomndebb, why dont you come play in my yard, these kids are bad :)

Seems like there has to be a crowd representing the theoritical arse of the cow I recently enlightened us all about, and one of the anal group just made himself clear.

I wouldn't dare waste a precious snowball on a being full of shit.

does anyone have a cure for verbal diareah(sp)...these guys really have a gift for usuing alot of words to say sweet-fuck-all!
Seems like there has to be a crowd representing the theoritical arse of the cow I recently enlightened us all about, and one of the anal group just made himself clear.

whatever you turd, insults from morons hardly upset me...
I only wish I had thought to include you in my last post...and its SHE thank you very much

kellibelli: so you do understand what we are saying?? and get offended by it?? mymy...
well, for your comfort kjwise didnt mention your name anywhere in his posting, so who are you to be offended by it? i know for a fact that every canadian i have met or talked are quite nice persons, dont tell me you are any different? to say the same about americans is a bit more difficult, i cant...and wont deny the fact that everywhere you go you are bound to meet both nice persons and stupid persons (i am not saying anybody here is...yet!). just 2 weeks ago i met 2 quite nice americans who where having some problems, i... being a good natured icelander naturally helped them out.
(no i wasnt giving them direction)

well... enough of babbling!

the bottomline being, stick to the subject and please refrain from personality attacks.
and by the way, excluding silly remarks, your only argument directly linked to the topic so far has been spelling errors.
(strangely enough i scored 153 in an english iq test, but i do admit that it is easier to understand english than expressing oneself in that particular language.)

ps kellibelli > "hvað fékkstu í morgunmat?"

kellibelli: so you do understand what we are saying??
no...maybe if we could, we woulndt get so annoyed.
well... enough of babbling!
when did you plan on stopping?

kellibelli: ...how did you manage to understand what i was saying! you twist your own logic against you.
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and how can one get annoyed by something one cant understand?
i dont want to suggest anything in order to avoid insulting somebody, meaning... if you have found anything i have said insulting, or considered any words of mine directly meant for you in order (what you thought) to verbally insult your intelligence, you have yourself to blame for it, for you know the fault to be yours. or you have been to stupid not to notice, due to a lack of understanding, narrow mindedness, the classic "hvað fékkstu í morgunmat?" or all of the above.


please enjoy your weekend :)

papabear said
I don't think you are equipted to engage in any kind of usefull debate in English. You misinterpret what others post and you're own posts are often baffling (but of Kid?). Any idioms or cultural references are lost on you. [/quote[
and
[quote]and how can one get annoyed by something one cant understand?
is it just me...or did you just agree with papabear????
HELLO...that is the point he was trying to make!!!

oops...the second quote was not papabears...
it was bjorns...thus the point I am trying...oh the hell with it

yes... i quite agree with you kellibelli!
the hell with it. i cant see that papabear has proven there isnt intelligent life in iceland (not that i really care about what is saying, since most of it isnt really topic related, just a collection of badly misplaced posts aimed personally against some icelandic persons posting on this thread.) therefore i move for a vote of closing this thread with the words:

we are all either; stupid, rude, narrow minded or all. nothing of what we have said here can be contributed to intelligence, only the fact that we have never met to marvel at each others glory and beauty prevents us from speaking the truth: "on the internet it doesnt matter what planet you are from, if your skin is green and you have antlers or if we have snowballs for a harmless game while you have nukes." understanding other people isnt based on their ability to communicate, but on your skill to interpet it to your own language. for communication is the key to peace in the world of overdozed cows(as kj so elegantly put it) looking for asylum at a mental institude.

bj0rn

you're doing it again!
ack, I give up!!!!
we are all either; stupid, rude, narrow minded or all.
speak you yourself.

I say we invade Iceland. We already have troops there at the Naval Base. We can turn the whole country into a nice Golf course, slaughter the men and sell the women as slaves to the Scythians. Sowing salt into the earth would be pointless there, but maybe we can get Union Carbide to set up a plant and pollute the rivers. Afterwards, we can force them to pay yearly tribute: the weight of a man in gold. We get to pick the man. Rush Limbaugh, maybe, or Norman Schwarzkopf. Really, any Washington pol would do.

That'd teach 'em to dis us.

APB999...you are so full of hate and viciousness...I find myself strangely attracted to you ...
(tee hee) I am outta here soon, have a great weekend!

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"the sex was so good, the neighbours needed a cigarette! '

Fact. Thorleifur claims "butt of kid" is an English expression.
Fact. No one has been able to confirm this.
Fact. I am mocking his new style of posting.

Question: what the hell does "butt of kid" mean?
My theory is that he meant to say "butt out" but got mixed up.

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"[He] beat his fist down upon the table and hurt his hand and became so
further enraged... that he beat his fist down upon the table even harder and
hurt his hand some more." -- Joseph Heller's Catch-22

Clear back in MAY,[b] Yepitsme wrote:correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm sure you will), but I think papabear's point was that those types of questions serve no purpose other than to piss people off....they are inflamatory and full of half-truths, or at least truths twisted to show things in the worst possible light. I think he was trying to say that questions put in that way [b](as were a few of Thor[leifur]'s questions) have no place on this message board.(Emphasis added)

See, Papabear's post was a PARODY, sarcasm, if you will, of Thorleifur's original inflammatory posts. His point was to show Thorleifur how bad it felt to have the same kind of questions asked about his own beloved home land. But we've got a huge language barrier here, combined with patriotic feelings for our respective homelands, and a natural tendency of all human beings to defend what they love from attack, real or perceived. You're all right on some points, you're all wrong on some points, and you're just ... oh, hell, I'm just wasting my breath.


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"I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it," Jack Handy

get it?...speak for yourself, with wrong grammar...
nevermind

kellibelli: i thought you might say that :)
thank you for not disappointing me.

gr8kat: you are on the right track there!

apb9999: hmm.. yes you could. but tell me one thing, would you do the same as the first icelanders who sailed to wineland now 1000 years ago.
for your enlightenment, we left! why? there were already people there. but i guess you already know that.

"the bottomline being, stick to the subject and please refrain from personality attacks."

This is the BBQ pit. We (the people at The Straight Dope) CREATED this forum specifically for personality attacks...

However, this thread is starting to take too long to load. If you wish to continue arguing, please start another thread, perhaps with "intelligent" spelled properly this time.

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