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06-26-1999, 07:45 PM
I posted this on the "sexy dresses" topic in the MPSIMS forum. No one responded. I'm posting it here, hoping that it was ignored not because it was a stupid question, but, rather, because it was simply a question, not a statement. handy posted "Men wear sexy clothing or try to look sexy too. Then they ignore women who look at them..." to which I responded:

What kind of men's clothing is sexy??
I'm a 17-year old male. The only thing that I have worn in public that I could imagine as being sexy is [loose-fitting] shorts and a white undershirt that I cut the sleeves off of or a generic nylon basketball jersey. But this doesn't seem to be provocative at all. If anything, I look like I just rolled out of bed and threw on a pair of shorts over my boxers.
Men's fashions are just not made to be sexy. We have suits, which I guess are sexy to women who are attracted to money and prestige. It's a rock and hard place: We're either dressed nicely but are all covered up, or we show a little skin and look like we don't give a crap about how we look, which in turn, consciously or sub-consciously gives the women around us the impression that we're not even bothering to look decent because the women we're with are not worth it.

And while we're at it, why is it that if a woman wears tight clothing, she's sexy, but if a man does so, he's gay?

06-26-1999, 09:12 PM
I'm too sexy for my shirt.

06-26-1999, 09:15 PM
The sexiest articles of clothing I own (at least I think so) are my black cut-offs, my black and grey vest (looks fabulous with nearly everything), and my black peasant shirt.

As to what I *consider* sexy male clothing... I like jeans (esp. cut-offs), collared shirts unbuttoned just far enough to see a bit of hair, and the shimmering purple see-through spandex-polyester far-too-tight shirt that my sexy friend Karim just bought. But mostly, it's not the clothes, it's the mind above them and body inside them that attract me.

06-26-1999, 09:26 PM
An interesting question.

My girlfriend thinks I'm sexy in my khakis and a nice shirt. I think I just look "nice". Then again, I'm not especially sexually attacted to me ;)

Our society, and perhaps society throughout time has decreed that the female form be the more provocative one. Be it through our own natural way or society's influence, when we think of 'sexy', the female seems to take the lead. Example: Most guys I know wouldn't know a sexy guy if the sexy guy beat them up in an alley. With some extreme exceptions, we just can't "see it". Women on the other hand seem to immediately know when another woman is attractive. This is from one of my ex-girlfriends: "Of course we know when another woman is sexy - why do you think we get jealous so easily?" My point is that, I'm not sure if anyone's tried really hard to make the male form 'sexy' through clothing to the norm of society and if such a thing is even possible. I can see a dress and without a woman in it, think "wow, that's one sexy dress." I've never seen anyone see a men's shirt and think anything besides "That might look good on you."

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06-26-1999, 09:32 PM
Sexy dress for men Pete, would be a tux...nothing better to get a womans' attention than a tux. They symbolize things like you said but ANY guy can wear one. NOt all women find that sexy, but the classier ones do.

But then I don't take them very seriously so I would wear one to a pool party.

This rates much sexier than greasy hair and pants that fall down around the butt with underpants showing.

Uniforms, military officer uniforms also rank high on sexy. Bought some at a thrift store and put on ranks for captain, sgt., lt. and general [one star] all on the same suit. Although I don't wear it anymore. Officer suits & tuxes if you don't look like an officer, get a lot of women attention.

06-27-1999, 06:22 AM
Jophiel has the right analysis, but you need some more female input. I have nothing to contribute. I think I was never sexy except fpr my hair, and that's not "dress". Just keeping your topic alive here....

06-27-1999, 07:25 AM
What kind of men's clothing is sexy??


A $1500 Armani suit.

Most guys I know wouldn't know a sexy guy if the sexy guy beat them up in an alley.

I think most guys would know how rich the other guy is. Or, at least, if the other guy is richer or not.

Sexy goes beyond the physical. Men look for youth, and women look for money. It's so simple. How else can you have a baby?



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06-27-1999, 09:35 AM
This topic got no serious airtime in MPSIMS?
Well, no wonder! It obviously falls in the realm of deserving fine objective scientific scrutiny.

06-27-1999, 10:39 AM
Hey, Saint Nickrz, are you mocking my curiosity? 8-Þ

A man in uniform, eh? I tried that. Didn't work. I sported my old cub scout uniform on a date. She laughed me out of the room.

A tuxedo--that's a good observation. I just went to a prom with a girl who unlike many, is not attracted to money and power. She likes nice bodies. And yet she flipped when I showed up in a tux with flowers and a bottle of wine. I don't get it. I looked like a penguin. Or a transvestite nun.



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I don't know who first said "everyone's a critic," but I think it's a really stupid saying.

06-27-1999, 10:59 AM
I think it depends on the girl. Some are into baseball players, some into money, etc.
Around here, standard fare for going out on the town is pretty much khakis and a shirt.
Now, we could turn this topic around and let the girlies know what THEY should wear :)

06-27-1999, 01:36 PM
I've always found understated, high-quality business attire sexy. I'm talking nicely pressed (preferably grey) high quality dress slacks, well-shined shoes, *black* socks, a spotless, perfectly pressed, high-quality white shirt that fits perfectly, and a nice, tasteful tie. Something that says "I am a professional, responsible guy and I either have very good taste myself or I let someone who does dress me. Additionally, I do not shop at Wal-Mart."
A suit jacket is optional. For me, it's mostly the shirt and the tie.

Shabbiness is definitely a turn-off. If any part of the outfit looks the slightest bit frayed or worn, it wrecks the look completely.

I guess "understated and tasteful" sums it up.

06-27-1999, 03:31 PM
Personally, I like a loose, tank top and olive pants, in the summer (on men).

06-27-1999, 07:02 PM
Picking up on What kind of men's clothing is sexy??and Beeruser's reply: use sexy accessories, such as a big fat snakeskin.... wallet.

06-27-1999, 09:42 PM
It all depends on the guy and the girl. My personal preference is the computer geek/drummer look: thin, long hair, t-shirt and torn jeans. But my ex-boyfriend would have looked silly like that. On him, I always liked neat preppy-looking clothes, it fit his looks and personality better.
Then again, don't take my word. I think Tim Curry looks sexy in women's underwear. ;)

(For anyone grossed out by that last remark, I'm a Rocky freak!)

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06-27-1999, 10:23 PM
I'm a sucker for a man in a suit, especially a black tux. I also like a man in a tank top. Especially on a hot summer day, when he's glistening with (just a little) sweat...sigh. Say, is it getting hot in here?


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06-27-1999, 10:47 PM
I think sexy dress for a man is a balance of two things, projecting his personality and blending in. To much or little of either and he either doesn't get noticed or gets noticed laughed at.

Suits look sexy if everyone else is wearing shirtsleeves and goofy ties. They look ridiculous at a heavy metal concert or a neighborhood bbq.

Khaki shorts and earth shoes look sexy in the park, but ridiculous in a conservative office or a symphony concert. Same with artfully slashed black t-shirts and jeans.

06-28-1999, 12:23 AM
I think sexiness in men, at least in the context outlined here, stems chiefly from ATTITUDE. You can dress up Antonio Banderas in any-fucking-thing and he will still steam panites at 100 yards. It's in the way that a man moves and speaks that makes him desirable, not necessarily the way he dresses.

06-28-1999, 12:34 AM
My version of what really qualifies as sexy dress on a man is when he wears something that makes other guys take notice.

06-28-1999, 06:08 AM
My personal preference is the computer geek/drummer look: thin, long hair, t-shirt and torn jeans.
Cessandra: why do so many women get attracted to guys who you know are going turn out to be bums who you will have to support eventually? Is there some odd evolutionary advantage here? Propagation of the "wandering" gene?

06-28-1999, 09:25 PM
Sexy dress on a woman for me would have completely naked. Yes, rather simple I must say.

06-28-1999, 09:26 PM
I meant, she would be completely naked ;-)

06-28-1999, 10:12 PM
Cessandra: why do so many women get attracted to guys who you know are going turn out to be bums who you will have to support eventually? Is there some odd evolutionary advantage here? Propagation of the "wandering" gene?


First of all, I know some guys who fit my image and yet have perfectly respectable jobs as. . . computer programmers. Take my boyfriend, for example.
Secondly, remember that I'm 18, and my tastes of what is "sexy" on a man will probably change when I start thinking about getting married and having a family.

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The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
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06-28-1999, 10:56 PM
I'm not 18, and I am female, and I'll step in with a few comments.

First off, I find the drummer/programmer look sexy on some men. I also find the Construction Worker look sexy on some men. I never find Plumber's Butt sexy, and EarthShoes are NEVER sexy under any circumstances.

As for the propagation of the wandering gene, I think that women who fear commitment express it by being attracted to men who are not going to offer an equal partnership in a relationship. It's kinda like men who have affairs every time the relationship gets a little to close. Does that make sense? For example, I dated a gardener for a time. All we ever did was eat and - well, mostly we didn't eat, and we never spent much time in public. I gave him up when he started trying to talk to me. Kiss of death! For men like that, a little duct tape does wonders for the relationship!

Going back to the original question, what clothing is sexy on men? The answer varies from man to man, and really has more to do with attitude than specific pieces of clothing. For example, my no-longer-cherished used to wear jeans and t-shirts all the time (43 years old, but working in an industry where that was appropriate), and he looked like the man I loved at the time. Not sexy, just my best friend and lover. When we split up, I met a man who wore the same things. He was burning hot in them. Nothing special in the way of t-shirts, either.

Another point to touch on, it's not money that is so attractive. It's power, so confidence is the first thing to put on in the morning! That sense of confidence is the most important element of a sexy man. Someone who projects the sense that he can make a decision and take care of a crisis. This is not to say that he should come across as though a woman's opinion won't matter, just that if he says, "Today I'm going to put on shoes that match" you can be sure that he won't be heading out the door in one wingtip and one flip flop. Make any sense?

06-29-1999, 08:11 AM
Hey Pete, I really think it depends on the girl. And for that matter, the guy. The thing that I find the sexiest is when a man is able to focus on the woman he's with. Let me 'splain: Ricky Martin. Sexy man. Why is he sexy? Not necessarily because he's extremely good looking but because every woman thinks he's looking at her and only her. He did an interview with Katie Couric, and I swear, he was making her nervous. He seems very focused on whatever woman he's with, fantasy-video-check or not.

Sincerity and politeness are big pluses in my department. Remember, women may initially be attracted by looks but a bad personality and stinky attitude will get you dumped like dog doo!

Good luck!

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06-29-1999, 08:12 AM
Whoops! That was supposed to be fantasy-video-CHICK! Sorry!

06-29-1999, 09:11 AM
I know a guy who has concluded that the reason women say guys look good in tuxes is because wearing a tux makes the guy's clothes uncomfortable which makes up for the fact that she is wearing high heels and panty hose. (This was a part of "Why do women wear high heels? "part IV. this particular male friend was OBSESSED with high heels). Plus, disregarding time to put makeup on and style hair, women's dressy clothes take much less time to put on than men's. (My brother got married recently, and I had to laugh at the penguin in the parking lot who was taking off and putting back on his cumberbund. He'd put it on upside down. I, on the other hand, changed clothes in about 5 minutes. (Though I did need help with my zipper).)

06-29-1999, 03:25 PM
Ya gotta understand . . .

Men are turned on by simple visuals. Women are turned on by circumstance. That's one reason why Playboy is so popular while Playgirl is so . . . blah.

A man appears sexy if his look conjures something of a story for the women who see him. Think (god help us) "romance novel".

Romance novels depend on a cast of archetypal characters suitable for the subgenre. You've got your cowboy, your knight in shining armor, your captain on the high seas, your rebel with a cause, and so on and so on.

Bikers, construction workers, firemen (oooooooh, firemen . . .), any man in uniform, . . .

Choose an image that suggests a character type, one that matches who you are, and go from there.

06-29-1999, 03:37 PM
What kind of men's clothing is sexy? Hmm. A tight-fitting mesh top or clean white tank top, tight leather pants, and one nipple ring.

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Oh, wait, did you mean straight men?
Nevermind.

06-29-1999, 07:31 PM
A tuxedo--that's a good observation. I just went to a prom with a girl who unlike many, is not attracted to money and power. She likes nice bodies. And yet she flipped when I showed up in a tux with flowers and a bottle of wine. I don't get it. I looked like a penguin. Or a transvestite nun.

Prom, eh? Are you from the States? If so, she probably flipped because she was 17 or 18 and you brought a bottle of wine. I know that would have been a serious plus if my prom dates had done that. Dunno if the parents would have gone for it, though.

06-29-1999, 08:06 PM
"Men are turned on by simple visuals. Women are turned on by
circumstance. That's one reason why Playboy is so popular while
Playgirl is so . . . blah."


Well, of course. Men are turned on 4 times as fast as women are [I believe it too]. Why they put their penis into just about anything so it's no surprise a woman doesn't have to look all that sexy for men to get turned on.

Most of the time a guy doesn't even look at what a woman's wearing or her hair, they just like to look at her boobs or butt.

06-29-1999, 10:33 PM
Drain Bead--I'm from New York. I brought the wine for her whole family (dem Italians love to drink).

She told me that the prom to a girl is a fantasy. Guys don't see it as a big deal, but girls dream about it ever since pre-adolescence. When I asked her what I should wear, she said to come in bright, shining armor on a white horse.

Speaking of being dropped like do-do, does anyone remember where this line is from? "I'm a do-do boy and I got my do-do girl."



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I don't know who first said "everyone's a critic," but I think it's a really stupid saying.

06-29-1999, 10:54 PM
Well, also being an 18 yr. old female (like Cessandra), I will put in my humble opinion of what clothes I find sexy on a male. On some guys, I find the punk/nerd look very appealing (think ska"concertgoer" here: nerd glasses, spike hair, thrift/vintage/fifties rebel clothes etc.) But, I must say that, overall, I find the beater& slightly baggy jeans, khakis, or cargo shorts look to be really sexy. (ya know....the wife beater tank tops....gotta love em) well, kay. gotta run. :)

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06-30-1999, 01:20 PM
Most of the time a guy doesn't even look at what a woman's wearing or her hair, they just like to look at her boobs or butt.

So true! I think I stopped dolling myself up for everything after I discovered this. One time I spent the night at my boyfriend's house, and woke up the next morning to have breakfast with the family. I was quite grubby from not getting a shower, and my eyes were puffy. My greasy hair had been pulled up and it looked like a tornado. And no makeup! All I was wearing was a ratty old tshirt and plaid pajama pants. I considered myself hideous, but my boyfriend said that I was beautiful.

Like Tipiwoo, I like the skater/punk/nerd look to an extent. I mean, the guy has to at least be well-groomed and have good hygiene. And if he smells like smoke or some other nasty smell, get me away from him!
:o

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I wonder what the king is doing tonight?

06-30-1999, 01:43 PM
Welfy, while I can't deny that guys are turned on by a nice body, a big part of the reason he said you looked beautiful was because you did NOT have make-up on. I'm not accusing you personally of using too much, but trust me, most girls go too far. A little lipstick or eyeliner for a special occasion is nice, but much more than that is nauseating. There was a girl in my French class who literally spent the entire period almost every day putting on make-up. First of all, it sends out the impression of being vain, which is an immediate turn-off. Guys like the kind of girl who is good-looking but is not consciously aware of it. Secondly, it looks awful. You look like those 50-year old whores from the movie "Hook."

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I don't know who first said "everyone's a critic," but I think it's a really stupid saying.

06-30-1999, 02:25 PM
Sexy clothes on man:

well made, well fitting clothes that accentuate best features. Unfortunately this varies from man to man, and woman's opinion to woman's opinion. I like legs. I happen to think that Umbro's show menfolk to their best advantage therein. seexxy.

06-30-1999, 02:37 PM
Welfy, have you ever known a man to admit that you looked awful? (I mean a decent man.) You could look like a carnival side show, and any guy that still wants to sleep with you tomorrow night will praise your beauty.

06-30-1999, 03:00 PM
Tight Wranglers on an even tighter ass. White T-shirt, one size too small, covering muscular and wide shoulders.

A nice bod in a tight motorcycle cop uniform.

Not sexy -

Speedos.
Tight, silk disco shirts.
Short shorts.
Baggy jeans with a plummer crack.
Tank tops with hairy, sweaty armpits hanging out.
Stained and wrinkles clothes.

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06-30-1999, 04:10 PM
Diane, are you really a gay man?

-Quadell

06-30-1999, 04:26 PM
I hate to be the bad guy, but this topic belongs in MPSIMS.
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