View Full Version : Can anyone justify the wolves - in "The Day After Tomorrow"
cryptic_j
10-23-2004, 06:51 PM
my mum and her boyfriend are watching the DVD right now - and I just remembered how lame they are...
here are just three good reasons for them not being included...
1) They were CGI... which meant - a) they cost a lot and b) they looked shit
2) There was NO need for them... surely the freezing temperature and the fact that they NEED teh medicine urgently should be enough to drive that section of the film along
3) They should have been DEAD! - where did they hide initially???
I don't think anyone can say - actually they were an integral part of the plot because they represent the metaphor of blah blah blah...
but can someone give and reason, justification or reasonable excuse for them...
apart from that I enjoyed the film.. :)
It's not Donnie Darko of course - - not even Attack Of The Clones - - but I enjoyed it (apart from them damn wolves! )
GuanoLad
10-23-2004, 08:15 PM
The stupidest part was that they were looking for food, despite the fact that there would've been plenty of perfectly edible New Yorkers' bodies lying around everywhere.
But the whole movie was absurd. "Ice Ages" do not last three days.
Kamino Neko
10-23-2004, 08:42 PM
The writers forgot the time scale they were working on and used the old 'post apocalyptic' cliche of roving animals?
It's all I got.
SteveG1
10-23-2004, 08:48 PM
They had just escaped from the zoo. Supposedly they were looking for food. Somehow they got on the ship and were in the kitchen - that's where the food usually is I guess. Maybe being in the ship somehow protected them from the worst of the weather, if you accept they lived long enough to get there. Since they were zoo animals, it's unlikely they would be starving yet, and there would be plenty of bodies for food. So, they had no real incentive to attack prey that runs or fights back. I think it was just a tired cliche about evil wolves or nature strikes back or something. Wolves were not necessary for the plot.
I can't think of any good explanation for the wolves. At the time, I figured that maybe they felt the movie needed a fight scene, and you can't exchange fisticuffs with a snowstorm.
Miller
10-23-2004, 10:47 PM
Better question: Can anyone justify The Day After Tomorrow?
MovieMogul
10-23-2004, 11:37 PM
Hey, people at ILM need to feed their families, too...
Tapioca Dextrin
10-23-2004, 11:41 PM
It's like asking how come the tidal wave was liquid enough to reach New York, but froze in place on arrival. Or in Independance Day, how come .............
JohnT
10-24-2004, 12:58 AM
I just saw the film...
... in 28 minutes.
Watched the weather stuff, FF'd through any scenes involving the two main males (unless they were in a conference room, giving/recieving exposition).
Not a bad film, watched that way!
Bryan Ekers
10-24-2004, 01:34 AM
FF'd through any scenes involving the two main males (unless they were in a conference room, giving/recieving exposition).
I do the same thing with lesbian porn. Only they ain't males and it ain't exposition.
JohnT
10-24-2004, 01:36 AM
Not wanting to sound insensitive or anything, but...
... what was the deal with the kid that looked like he was suffering from cancer? He made two brief appearences in the film and, as far as I could tell, wasn't instrumental to the story at all.
Excalibre
10-24-2004, 03:36 AM
Better question: Can anyone justify The Day After Tomorrow?
Ya know, late at night with a good friend, after seeing the slightly more serious 'Garden State' earlier in the evening, it was a great way to have some fun. Talk about the movie, point out the logical inconsistencies and general impossibilities . . . to bad Dennis Quaid is old and Jake Gyllenhall is too young. It needed a hot guy to round it out.
cryptic_j
10-24-2004, 07:21 AM
I forgot about the kid with cancer - - -
lets be honest - - in a real world situation the woman would have been left to die at the hospital - - with the kid who was going to die in a few (weeks/years/months???) would the kid really have wanted people to risk their lives to prolong his?
mind you -- - if I'd have known I would have gone for him -- I'm just saying that 9 times out of 10 - - that doesn't happen...
Ephemera
10-24-2004, 03:10 PM
Not wanting to sound insensitive or anything, but...
... what was the deal with the kid that looked like he was suffering from cancer? He made two brief appearences in the film and, as far as I could tell, wasn't instrumental to the story at all.
Maybe to show that even in the face of adversity, we won't lose our humanity or something else similarly stupid? Otherwise, I have no idea. If I had been the doctor, that kid would have been left to die since he's most likely going to with the First World now under ice anyway.
His rescue only delayed the inevitable.
Bryan Ekers
10-24-2004, 04:03 PM
His rescue only delayed the inevitable.
Oh, I dunno. Don't all refugee camps come equipped with chemotherapy wards, nowadays? I think I read that in some a Republican campaign flyer.
SteveG1
10-24-2004, 06:21 PM
I forgot about the kid with cancer - - -
lets be honest - - in a real world situation the woman would have been left to die at the hospital - - with the kid who was going to die in a few (weeks/years/months???) would the kid really have wanted people to risk their lives to prolong his?
mind you -- - if I'd have known I would have gone for him -- I'm just saying that 9 times out of 10 - - that doesn't happen...
The kid was just a device to tug at heartstrings. If he was actually dying anyway, maybe going out into the minus zillion degree deep freeze downdraft/microburst thing would have been a more humane end.
Chronos
10-24-2004, 06:27 PM
How about this?
Wolves
Wolves
Wolves
There ya go, I justified them :D
SteveG1
10-24-2004, 06:29 PM
How about this?
Wolves
Wolves
Wolves
There ya go, I justified them :D
ROFL Why didn't I think of that!
rocking chair
10-24-2004, 07:14 PM
the wolves are now appearing in a spot for bush/cheney.
SteveG1
10-24-2004, 09:02 PM
They recanted. See the Wolfpacks For Truth website :D
Polycarp
10-24-2004, 09:04 PM
They recanted. See the Wolfpacks For Truth website :D
You mean, they're ex-wolves? Do they offer reparative therapy to wolves and evangelize them to see the light?
:dubious:
Greywolf73
10-24-2004, 09:12 PM
My theory on the wolves is that they were originally a couple of unusually intelligent abominable snowmen who were displaced by the sudden ice shift and went on a trek seeking revenge on the evil humans who somehow had caused the global catastrophe. By the time they reached New York, though, the special effects budget was drastically cut and they ended up being a couple of mangy looking wolves who escaped from the zoo.
:D
FilmGeek
10-24-2004, 11:04 PM
The wolves were definitely the worst part of that film.
I liked it, in a cheesy, end of the world kind of way. I also am a sucker for Dennis Quaid AND Jake Gyllenhall, so whaddayagonnado?
The kid with cancer was to give the Mom (Sela Ward) something to do that was heroic, like Dad and Kid.
Scissorjack
10-25-2004, 03:53 AM
Let me be the first in this thread to channel Abe Simpson: "I'm cold...and there are wolves after me."
DeadlyAccurate
10-25-2004, 10:36 AM
The wolves were dumb and unnecessary, but I loved the movie. Of course, it was nothing more than I expected: a disaster flick with cool (no pun intended) special effects and the bare minimum plot needed to go from scene to scene. I love stories where the plot revolves around the logistics of surviving under adverse conditions and I always wonder how I would handle it in the same situation.
Biggirl
10-25-2004, 11:08 AM
They confused wolves with our native Bronx coyotes. (http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/bronxbeat/1999/april/april12/coyote.html)
GuanoLad
10-25-2004, 05:38 PM
I love stories where the plot revolves around the logistics of surviving under adverse conditions and I always wonder how I would handle it in the same situation.
Yeah, but that wasn't this movie.
It was so incredibly cold that a city full of ocean water froze solid instantly - and how do they survive this incredible unprecedented extreme? By wrapping up in blankets and sitting in front of the fireplace.
iamthewalrus(:3=
10-25-2004, 06:24 PM
For one livejournaler's humorous and internet-speak-heavy take on the movie read The Day After Tomorrow in Fifteen Minutes (http://www.livejournal.com/users/cleolinda/112010.html), in which she comments on the wolves' disappearance:
"OMG the plot points have escaped!"
Padeye
10-25-2004, 07:00 PM
I think the best indication that The Day After had the "suck" knob turned all the way up (It goes to eleven) is that when Trey Parker and Matt Stone considered making a parody of it with marionettes that they couldn't make the movie more unintentionally hilarious than it already was. The wolves looked about as realistic as the wolves in Ice Age.
Was I the only one who noticed that the ice-beast of Hoth that tried to make a snack young Skywalker looked a hell of a lot like Bumbles from Rudoph the Red Nosed Reindeer?
susan
11-10-2004, 09:33 PM
Never mind all that; how did the wolves escape the zoo in the first place? "Uh, that's funny, how weird, gee, there use ta be wolves in this cage."
Having just watched this painfully bad movie, I propose a nerd drinking game where you drink a shot every time something scientifically implausible happens, drink two shots when the action is unbelievably stupid, and three shots when "scientists," "professors," and "high school geniuses" do something dumb.
"Uh, it's -150F outside. Let's put three men in a pickup truck and drive to New York to rescue my son. We can always strap him to the roof for the ride home. As for his little school friends, screw 'em."
"Uh, it's -150F outside. Liquid fuel freezes in the line at this temperature. Good thing the stove still works in this fast food joint."
"Uh, it's -150F outside. Let's sit in a great big room with huge windows and not create a smaller area and insulate it with all these rugs and books."
"Uh, it's -150F outside. Let's go climb around on metal in our bare hands. Oh, and breathe heavily after chasing wolves. I hear that's salutary for lung function."
audiobottle
11-10-2004, 09:54 PM
The three men in a pickup truck is another one I didn't understand. Why exactly were there three of them? Or maybe I should start with why was he going in the first place? What exactly was he hoping to accomplish there? Then why did the other two come along? It didn't seem like they could do anything he couldn't. Sure, one of them says something about the main scientist not being able to navigate, but I have a feeling that someone as visionary and smart as the main guy could get a simple GPS device to work. And then the third guy just came along so he wouldn't seem like a wuss. Then one dies, and the other one almost dies.... So much unnecessary stuff.
mike1dog
11-11-2004, 06:52 AM
I only remember one thing. When the guy cut his own rope to save everyone else, I laughed so hard, I was afraid someone would think I was crying over his death. And what was with this scientist and his "love interest"? I don't remember them sharing more than three words, but when he got into the truck to go north they made google eyes at each other.
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