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START
10-29-2004, 01:36 AM
When I was a little kid Halloween was a bad time of year for me because my parents wouldn't let me celebrate it and I thought it was the end of the world because I would come to school in my regular clothes and everybody else would be dressed up but as I got older I accepted it. One Halloween I snuck some face paint with me and put it on at school, My dad had came by the school to drop something off and he saw me and made me wipe it off and I was crying in front of my whole class.

My youngest siblings seem to have no problems with the fact that we don't celebrate Halloween, most years my mother would give out candy and these comic book like bible tracts but last year she decided that we as a family shouldn't pass out candy. This year my family will be passing things out but no candy instead we are passing out these serious looking tracts that are saying why Halloween is "evil".
I am all for handing out bible tracts please don't get that twisted but handing out bible tracts on Halloween that say you shouldn't celebrate Halloween and with no candy. I won't be surprised if my house gets egged, toilet papered or stink bombed. This is one of the few things my step dad and I agree on, we will be forming a plan to replace the "Halloween is evil" tracts with something more colorful and of course put some candy in with it.

Then I also hate people telling my mom that she is depriving my younger siblings of something that is a big part of growing up and that she should let them celebrate Halloween. You wouldn't believe how many people say that my brothers and sisters are being deprived of something because they can't trick or treat. A lot of people say "oh just let them celebrate it" but that is like telling a Jewish person to celebrate Christmas.
10 years ago if someone told me I would be defending my mom on this no trick or treating thing I wouldn't have believed them.

There were a few years when my parents told me it was my choice if I wanted to celebrate Halloween and I did go and get dressed up but I didn't have a good time.
There is a school sponsored costume party tommorow night and even though I have the choice to go I doubt that I'm going to be there because the few times I did do the Halloween thing it just felt weird. Very awkward time of year for me and I can't wait until it passes.

Slacker
10-29-2004, 02:11 AM
What denomination are your parents? Just curious. ;) Do you know what their objections are, or do they care to elaborate?

For the record - in my church (Lutheran) I don't know very many people, if any, who are opposed to Halloween. Maybe a few of the older people, but then again they may just be opposed to anything fun. :eek:

I love Halloween. It's one of my favorite holidays. I can't wait until my kid is old enough to dress up and do some trick or treating. 28 year old man trick or treating by himself? Call the cops. 28 year old man trick or treating with his little girl? Aww cute. ;)

START
10-29-2004, 02:29 AM
What denomination are your parents? Just curious. ;) Do you know what their objections are, or do they care to elaborate?

Pentecostal... The official explanation given to me when I was little was this;

"Halloween is a holiday that honors the dead and we are not to honor dead people because they are either in heaven or hell and we only give honor to God"

also that

"Halloween glorifies the occult and we do not glorify anything that has to do with the devil".

Ephemera
10-29-2004, 02:33 AM
Does your mother ever talk about a dead relative, like her grandmother or something? If so, her rationale is obviously BS.

SentientMeat
10-29-2004, 04:15 AM
Here, here!

Trick or treat: a child's introduction to the protection racket.

"Nice house you got here. Be a shame if, say, an egg ended up all over the windows or someone were to, say, ring your doorbell and run awa. Do we understand each other?"

Scissorjack
10-29-2004, 04:30 AM
I hate Halloween too. I'm from NZ, and it never used to be a big deal here: a few orange cellophane jack-o'-lanterns stuck up in primary school, that kind of thing. There never used to be the American tradition of trick-or-treating, until the last few years when it started becoming increasingly hyped commercially, as a bastard clone of what some stores had seen on American sit-coms and decided was a good excuse to sell lollies and ghoul masks. Now it seem to be growing every year.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Americans or American traditions: I just object to their cynical wholesale transplantation {the customs, I mean: you guys are most welcome} to a place where they never really existed before just as an excuse to pressure kids into making their parents buy stuff.

Early Out
10-29-2004, 06:10 AM
Pentecostal... The official explanation given to me when I was little was this;

"Halloween is a holiday that honors the dead and we are not to honor dead people because they are either in heaven or hell and we only give honor to God"

also that

"Halloween glorifies the occult and we do not glorify anything that has to do with the devil".Ask them how letting a little kid dress up like Spiderman honors the dead, or glorifies the occult.

Why I am an atheist, chapter 427.

Already in Use
10-29-2004, 07:19 AM
For the record - in my church (Lutheran) I don't know very many people, if any, who are opposed to Halloween.I was raised an ELCA Lutheran, and I don't recall there being any controversy about Halloween. Hell, we had Halloween parties in church. (Ah, the joys of being in a liberal mainline Protestant denomination.) Of course, our pastor also was sure to remind us that it's also Reformation Day.

gobear
10-29-2004, 07:32 AM
Well, if you and your family prefer to spend your time praying and handing out tracts, good for you. As for me, I'm going to be watching horror movies and eating candy.

Left Hand of Dorkness
10-29-2004, 07:38 AM
Hallowe'en is the best holiday ever. That is all.

Daniel

BwanaBob
10-29-2004, 07:46 AM
Shouldn't this thread have been titled:

I need therapy because of what my parents did to my childhood.

Homebrew
10-29-2004, 08:05 AM
I grew up Pentecostal Church of God. I couldn't go to movies. I couldn't go to the skating rink. I couldn't go swimming if there were boys and girls together. I couldn't play Little League Baseball. I couldn't play on any sports team at school. I had to wear sweat pants in gym because we weren't allowed to wear shorts. The girls couldn't wear pants or makeup. We were fundaloonies.

But, dammit, we went Trick or Treating. We even had Halloween parties at church. It's a freaking cultural holiday that is so far removed from any pagen origins that it's absurd to object. It's absolute idiotic to not participate because of "religion". It's a stupid comparison to Jews and Christmas. But you want to know something? I've known Jews who do participate in Christmas; because it's as much a part of culture as it is religion.

If you don't want to pass out candy then turn your fucking porch light off and don't answer the damned door. Handing out Chick tracts instead of candy is vile; even worse than handing out McDonalds coupons instead of candy.

God damn fundaloonies trying to ruin innocent childhood fun. Disgusting brain-dead anti-intellectual superstitious morons.

Can you tell I still have some anger issues related to my upbringing?

Anaamika
10-29-2004, 08:13 AM
. A lot of people say "oh just let them celebrate it" but that is like telling a Jewish person to celebrate Christmas.

This is the only part of your OP I have a problem with. Telling a Jewish person to celebrate Christmas is a lot different from telling someone who doesn't believe in Halloween to let their kids participate in it. I mean it's your choice what you do, but it's not the same thing at all.

And FTR, I'm atheist and celebrate every damn holiday I can. Why not? More fun for me!

Dung Beetle
10-29-2004, 08:13 AM
START, honey, that's one of the saddest things I've ever heard. I'm sorry you missed out on the fun other little kids were having. All I wanted to do after reading that OP was smack a cowboy hat on your head, hand you a glowstick and a shopping bag, and take you around to the neighbor's houses. :(

caveman
10-29-2004, 08:15 AM
My girlfriend was also raised Penecostal, and has never carved a jack o' lantern...I'm gonna fix that oversight right soon. Yesterday, I, a somewhat lapsed Baptist, went to the parking lot of a local Methodist chuch and got the cutest lil' punkin to carve into a howling ghoul of some sort.

The point I'm trying to make here is that it's all fine and well for your mom to hand out Halloween-is-evil tracts (even if your house then suffers the martydom of the egg and paper as others may not take kindly to such a low return-on-investment), but eventually you and your siblings will get to decide for yourselves if the modern celebration of Halloween is really in keeping with ancient Celtic ancestor veneration, or just a nod to tradition with lots of candy.

[loosely-connected rant] Back in the day, I do recall there being a certain portion of my congregation that would mention their disapproval of the celebration, but they were vastly outnumbered by more levelheaded members. Eventually, though, my church fell prey to the lameness that is "Noah's Ark" parties, and other Halloween-lite bullshit that encourages costumes, but not those that are 'scary.' There is some strange mechanism in the human psyche that causes a cascade effect in groups. The most radical interpreters of the faith declare their silly position, then those around them seem to acquiesce, not out of agreement, but out of fear of beign less "right" somehow. It continues, spreading from those that almost agree, to those that are neutral, to those that disagree, leaving folks like my parents (who WISH some kids would show up at their doorstep for candy in their new, huge-lot, low-density subdivision) to suffer quietly in a place where they were once in the mainstram, but are now marginalized. *Sigh*. I imagine that's why I'm still a Christian, but generally shun the "fellowship of man." [/loosely-conected rant]

My view has always been that Halloween has exactly as much to do with the occult as Valentine's Day has to do with saints. Think of it as a demonstration of the power and popularity of your faith: it has neutered old pagan festivals into good, clean fun and its popularity is such that practically everyone celebrates its festivals in some way, even if they don't beleive.

Left Hand of Dorkness
10-29-2004, 08:26 AM
Just let your parents know that, if they come carolling around my house near Christmas, I'm gonna start screaming Satanic obscenities at them. Just to, y'know, keep the force in balance.

Daniel

Tentacle Monster
10-29-2004, 08:36 AM
I never did like Halloween all that much, and we most always celebrated it. I remember one year, I trick-or-treated until I got about two inches of candy in the bag, then wanted to stop. I had Mega Man on rental, for crying out loud!

The best Halloween, though, I didn't go out. We stayed home and had a Halloween party. We never got any trick-or-treaters--living that far out in the sticks, any T-o-T'ers would have been more likely in search of directions than candy. Anyway, we always got candy Just In Case, but usually wound up eating all of it ourselves. At this Halloween party, after we'd already eaten all of the candy, we actually got a trick-or-treater.

I gave him a slice of leftover pizza.

DogMom
10-29-2004, 09:12 AM
Tentacle, I'm coming to your house for ToT this year. I love leftover pizza. :D

Actually, we're having one of our church's Seminary Field Workers (think "Student Teacher" or "Teacher's Aide" for Pastors) and his family over for dinner and then their kids are going ToT. No problems here with it.
Weirdly enough, the most hassle I ever got about Halloween was from an ELCA (Lutheran) church - now that I've gone back to the more "conservative" (LC-MS) branch, there's no hassle with it whatsoever.

Happy Reformation Sunday, everyone! And don't nail any punkins to local church doors. That would be Wrong.

foxymoron
10-29-2004, 09:12 AM
START, you said that you and your stepdad wished your mom would give out something other than tracts on Halloween. Maybe you two could talk her into handing out these cross candies (http://www.orientaltrading.com/otcweb/application?namespace=browse&origin=searchMain.jsp&event=link.itemDetails&demandPrefix=12&sku=36/473&mode=Searching&searchDestinationJSP=/search/searchMain.jsp&erec=2&D=cross&No=27&event=button.search&Dx=mode%252bmatchallpartial&namespace=search&Ntx=mode%252bmatchallpartial&Ntt=cross&N=0&origin=searchMain.jsp&Ntk=all) next year. Everybody wins! :)

vanilla
10-29-2004, 09:14 AM
What a great idea!
Leftover pizza.
Just remember to wrap it up.

I am glad I was not raised Pentecostal.
My parents were nominal Catholics.

But almost all the churches I have been in, Halloween is evil.
My son enjoys it as do I.
In fact, he plans to trick and treat til he is 18.

Someday I keep wanting to dress us up as Sid & Nancy; it would be cool.

Left Hand of Dorkness
10-29-2004, 09:22 AM
START, you said that you and your stepdad wished your mom would give out something other than tracts on Halloween. Maybe you two could talk her into handing out these cross candies (http://www.orientaltrading.com/otcweb/application?namespace=browse&origin=searchMain.jsp&event=link.itemDetails&demandPrefix=12&sku=36/473&mode=Searching&searchDestinationJSP=/search/searchMain.jsp&erec=2&D=cross&No=27&event=button.search&Dx=mode%252bmatchallpartial&namespace=search&Ntx=mode%252bmatchallpartial&Ntt=cross&N=0&origin=searchMain.jsp&Ntk=all) next year. Everybody wins! :)

Oh, the blasphemy potential in those....

Daniel

tdn
10-29-2004, 09:35 AM
It always surprises me that so many people can get so uptight about a completely non-offensive holiday. And seem to feel it is part and parcel of their faith to be such buzzkills to the rest of the world.

Dog80
10-29-2004, 09:51 AM
The closest we get to Halloween in Greece, is the Apokries. People can dress anything they like, not just scary things like ghosts or demons. Still, the Greek Orthodox Church is not too fond of this event. They say that Apokries has its roots in ancient pagan rituals of Dionysus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysus). :rolleyes: I guess the church is against having a good time in general. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

DarkPrince
10-29-2004, 01:16 PM
these cross candies (http://www.orientaltrading.com/otcweb/application?namespace=browse&origin=searchMain.jsp&event=link.itemDetails&demandPrefix=12&sku=36/473&mode=Searching&searchDestinationJSP=/search/searchMain.jsp&erec=2&D=cross&No=27&event=button.search&Dx=mode%252bmatchallpartial&namespace=search&Ntx=mode%252bmatchallpartial&Ntt=cross&N=0&origin=searchMain.jsp&Ntk=all) Everybody wins! :)

Except the kids, getting hard candy on Halloween sucked! :p



Mmm...chocolate...

Hyperelastic
10-29-2004, 01:20 PM
Halloween sucks balls. It's a public parading of modern Western man's inability to deal with death in a psycho-philosophically tenable manner.

But I likes me some candy bars!

Guinastasia
10-29-2004, 01:41 PM
START, I'm so sorry you never got to experience the joys of Halloween as a kid-some of my fondest memories from childhood are going out with my cousins at their HUGE plan (I mean, this neighborhood is gigantic!), and getting sackloads of candy and picking out my costume months in advance.

As for your mom-what kind of tracts, are these? I hope they're not Chick tracts (http://www.chick.com), are they?

Spectre of Pithecanthropus
10-29-2004, 03:31 PM
Stories like the OP's make me sad. Between the ages of about six and...errm, I don't remember exactly when I quit...Halloween was almost as much fun as Christmas. We always had the neighborhood party at our house, and then the younger kids would set off together to hit the houses nearby for candy. You got to wear a costume, you got to walk around the neighborhood after dark with a flashlight, and you got a ton of candy. How cool is that?

DeVena
10-29-2004, 04:03 PM
I grew up in a city and we t-o-ted like crazy, bringing home pillowcases full of candy. When I was 13 we moved to the country and it's hard to go door to door without a car. Not very practical. The country churches did Trunk-r-Treat; everyone parked in the parking lot in a big circle and kids walked from trunk to decorated trunk gathering candy and showing off their costumes. Yes even witches and ghosts! My brother's church still does this; It's practical. He's decorating his truck like an elephant.

But now so many southern churches in cities have gone to Fall Festivals or Harvest Festivals. No scary costumes. Everything sanitized for your protection. I think it's a crock. All it does is emphasize to kids the stupidity that other people are bad. Don't learn your neighbors names. Don't actually interact with children that haven't been picked out by your parents first. It's wrong to be scared. How do you explain "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!"? Oh those kids are satanists and evil and it's wrong to get candy from neighbors??

It's just so sad. Wearing a conical hat makes you a Witch about like seeing a statue of a naked man makes you pregnant. Not hardly.

MLS
10-29-2004, 04:47 PM
I hate Halloween for completely non-religious reasons. It's a "holiday" about dead things, for cripes sake! Also, besides the extortion angle, it contradicts the other stuff kids are supposed to learn. Think about it: 364 days a year we tell them not to eat too much junk, not to beg for stuff, and certainly not to take candy from strangers. And then on the 365th, they are encouraged to go out and beg candy from strangers. WTF?

Also, it's the end of daylight savings time, and next week I will have to drive home from work in the dark. And the leaves will be gone, and it will be getting colder and darker for weeks. What's to celebrate? Yeah, just to cheer us all up, let's have an entire day about death!

sj2
10-29-2004, 04:50 PM
They should at least put a sign on the door that says something like:

No candy here...but if you want bible material knock on you little heathens!

malkavia
10-29-2004, 05:12 PM
My parents keep a large sign on their door that reads, "Because of our beliefs and our love for the Lord Jesus Christ, we do not celebrate Halloween" complete with a large rendering of a cross.

They have somehow convinced my son that Halloween is an evil holiday, despite my best efforts to lure him to the "dark side" with candy (which he generally doesn't like much) and spider man costumes (which he generally doesn't care too much for either)

Talk about an uphill battle.


I'd never give the poor kid Chick tracts though. My mom and I had a Loooooong discussion about how scarred I am from a childhood filled with that godawful fear mongering.

Jack Chick and Bob Larson, AAAARGGGH.

Needless to say, she was none too pleased the year I decided to celebrate Samhain, which I feel is a much more constructive and symbolic way to celebrate death and endings.

Nowadays, I just wear furry ears to work and whine my way out of being dragged by my fiance' to the latest horror flick that will ultimately give me nightmares for a week. Uurg.

moonstarssun
10-29-2004, 05:46 PM
Hallowe'en is the best holiday ever. That is all.

Daniel

I couldn't agree more! It's the one time of year that I can proudly be my morbid self.

When I was a kid, there were a few families on our block that didn't celebrate Halloween, but they usually just turned off the lights to keep trick-or-treaters away. I always felt kinda sorry for the kids, though, since they had to sit out the school party and never got to go to the school carnival that featured costume contests and a haunted house.

Liz
10-29-2004, 05:51 PM
I love Halloween, too. It's my absolute favorite holiday, in fact. I didn't get to celebrate it as a child, either, as we were a) too poor for costumes and the trimmings [so sayeth my drunken asshole parents -- how much would a little cheap makeup cost, honestly? less than your Virginia Slims and Cutty Sark, I bet] and b) my parents were usually too busy fighting or passing out to be bothered with walking us around the neighborhood.

Now, I'm an adult and I plan on watching scary movies, baking ghost cookies and playing Sanitarium on my PC [thanks to someone's CS thread]. I used to sit and be both mortified and very sad that I couldn't take part in what I saw as a very fun experience. Not anymore -- fuck 'em. I'm curling up with Mrs. Chatelaine, eating candy and enjoying the most creative holiday of the year, thanks.

Giraffe
10-29-2004, 07:00 PM
Ask them how letting a little kid dress up like Spiderman honors the dead, or glorifies the occult.It couldn't be more obvious. The radioactive spider is like the serpent (i.e. Satan), causing Adam (i.e. Spiderman) to be cast out of the Garden of Eden (i.e. the state of not being Spiderman). All the subsequent events mirror Biblical stories, from Uncle Ben's death (i.e. Cain slaying Abel) to the Green Goblin's escapades (i.e. Moses wandering the desert and blowing things up).

If God had wanted us to have great power and the accompanying great responsibility that goes with it, he would have given us all web shooters in our wrists. Since he didn't, dressing as Spiderman is simply glorifying Original Sin and devil worship. Why not just dress the kids up as Marilyn Manson and have them smear feces on each other? It's the same thing.

Padmaraga
10-29-2004, 10:05 PM
The main reason I hate Halloween is because it brings scores of ankle-biters to my door, invading my peace & quiet with their demands of candy. I'd like to get a sign for my door that says "I EAT CHILDREN", but my spouse would object.

Silver Fire
10-29-2004, 10:19 PM
I can't wait until my kid is old enough to dress up and do some trick or treating. 28 year old man trick or treating by himself? Call the cops. 28 year old man trick or treating with his little girl? Aww cute. ;)
How old is she? I took my son trick or treating last year when he was 5 months old. I got a dalamation costume for him; it was really just a white snowsuit with spots, a tail, and puppy head for a hood. Very cute. :) I'm taking him again this year (a textured, multi-colored (shades of purple) snowsuit with a tail and a dragon's head for a hood).

Mmm... Candy. :) Oh yeah, I'm in MN so none of this "Oh, it's too cold down here in Dallas" crap. :D

Cunctator
10-30-2004, 01:29 AM
Come to Australia START. We don't celebrate Hallowe'en here.

Slacker
10-30-2004, 01:29 AM
How old is she? I took my son trick or treating last year when he was 5 months old. I got a dalamation costume for him; it was really just a white snowsuit with spots, a tail, and puppy head for a hood. Very cute. :) I'm taking him again this year (a textured, multi-colored (shades of purple) snowsuit with a tail and a dragon's head for a hood).

Mmm... Candy. :) Oh yeah, I'm in MN so none of this "Oh, it's too cold down here in Dallas" crap. :D
She's due in March. ;)

gouda
10-30-2004, 02:25 AM
Amusing Halloween incident:

It was my first year at University in England, and I was staying in a house with a bunch of Dutch and German course-mates. Halloween isn't celebrated in India, and seemingly not in Holland and Germany either, because none of these guys were aware of it being on that day.

I remember it was a Saturday, because we had all gone and done our weekly shopping. As usual, I stacked up on candy (we're starved of good chocolate in India) and the Dutch guys stacked up on chips. Fortunately (on hindsight), along with the usual bags of M&Ms, I also picked up several bags of mixed candy, and the Dutch guys picked up several large bags of assorted chips (is that a Dutch student thing?! They ate of LOT of chips).

Anyways, evening came, and as we were sitting down to dinner, the doorbell rang. I opened the door, saw the little kids dressed up and holding a huge bag open in front of me - realisation dawned!!

We ended up emptying the entire week's stock of candy and chips in less 45 minutes... and the kids didn't stop coming! After apologising a couple of times, we just gave up and turned the lights off and headed off to the neighbourhood pub.

By the time we got back, the front lawn was covered with toilet paper! I remember thinking, 'Hmm... strange new culture!'

Btw, what's with the toilet paper?

FriarTed
10-30-2004, 11:07 AM
It couldn't be more obvious. The radioactive spider is like the serpent (i.e. Satan), causing Adam (i.e. Spiderman) to be cast out of the Garden of Eden (i.e. the state of not being Spiderman). All the subsequent events mirror Biblical stories, from Uncle Ben's death (i.e. Cain slaying Abel) to the Green Goblin's escapades (i.e. Moses wandering the desert and blowing things up).

If God had wanted us to have great power and the accompanying great responsibility that goes with it, he would have given us all web shooters in our wrists. Since he didn't, dressing as Spiderman is simply glorifying Original Sin and devil worship. Why not just dress the kids up as Marilyn Manson and have them smear feces on each other? It's the same thing.


*doing Robin Williams doing Dr. Gene Scott....*

"Today, we're going to compare and contrast Jesus and SpiderMan..."

Actually, I had the Spider being a symbol of the Holy Spirit/Dove which lighted upon Jesus at His Baptism, thus starting His Messianic ministry...

Check this link- a sane SBC/Presbyterian minister who calls for his fellow Evangelicals to embrace Halloween & recognize that it was stolen from us by our
gullibility in listening to the pathological liar Mike Warnke...

http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2004/10/26/15025156.html

ZipperJJ
10-30-2004, 03:17 PM
I was also raised in a house that didn't really "celebrate" halloween, but my mom objected more to the idea of her already-too-fat kids begging for candy at the neighbors' houses and threw in a little "oh and it's evil, too" crap every few years.

And I, like START, pretty much don't care for the holiday myself now. I really "suck" at halloween. I've never had a good costume, except for the time I dressed up as my brother (he had some sort of goth look to him in High School and everyone got my joke).

So now I'm 25 and I still show up to halloween parties w/o a costume and if I do have a costume it sucks and I can't get into the "spirit" and I wish it would just friggin go away.

bah. humbug.

chorpler
10-30-2004, 03:27 PM
Hallowe'en is the best holiday ever. That is all.

Hear, hear! I love Halloween more than anything else. I love the whole spooky atmosphere of the season. And I'm glad there's one holiday we have that involves that delicious feeling of fear that makes us enjoy horror movies and roller coasters and whatnot.

Plus, here in Nevada, Halloween corresponded with the date that Nevada became a state, so we we used to get Halloween off from school as a state holiday. A few years back a ballot question changed it so that we now observe Nevada day on the closest October Friday or Monday to Halloween, so we can be assured of Nevada Day giving us a three-day weekend. It's better in a way, but it was really cool getting Halloween itself off from school. Though I think that it would be better to get the day AFTER Halloween off, so you could stay out late trick-or-treating or going to a scary party or whatever and not have to get up early the next day. Ah well.

Anyway, I love Halloween ... and although my parents had pretty strict religious beliefs, I'm glad they didn't find Halloween offensive.

Excalibre
10-30-2004, 04:08 PM
My youngest siblings seem to have no problems with the fact that we don't celebrate Halloween, most years my mother would give out candy and these comic book like bible tracts but last year she decided that we as a family shouldn't pass out candy. This year my family will be passing things out but no candy instead we are passing out these serious looking tracts that are saying why Halloween is "evil".
I am all for handing out bible tracts please don't get that twisted but handing out bible tracts on Halloween that say you shouldn't celebrate Halloween and with no candy. I won't be surprised if my house gets egged, toilet papered or stink bombed. This is one of the few things my step dad and I agree on, we will be forming a plan to replace the "Halloween is evil" tracts with something more colorful and of course put some candy in with it.
Don't trick-or-treat if you don't want to, but anyone who decides to co-opt a holiday - one that they'll be glad to inform you isn't Christian - in order to evangelize is a complete asshole. And anyone who decides that they need to take a huge shit all over it by telling kids that Halloween is evil is a worthless sack of shit. I can't believe people really believe themselves to be so infallible that they have the right to shit all over everyone else's good time.

Otto
10-30-2004, 06:41 PM
Your parents are fucked up. Especially your mom. I hope you can leave home soon.

Silver Fire
10-30-2004, 08:42 PM
She's due in March. ;)
Oh. Heh. Nevermind then. :p

Good luck and good health to you and your family. And congratulations. :)

NoClueBoy
10-30-2004, 10:07 PM
You wanna really mess with people's minds on Halloween?

Dress up in a suit and tie, get yourself a briefcase or satchel type thingy. Relabel some old magaiznes you have lying around the house. Then, go to each door, knock, hold up the relabeled 'zine and say, "Watchtower!"

Sure to cause some wondeful reactions!


--------------------------------


One year, while my GF and I were at her mother's house, she told me the idea she had for going to that year's big Halloween party.

GF: "I have the perfect costume picked out for you."

Me: "Yeah?"

GF: "Yeah. You'll be a vampire pimp! Like a cross between Huggy Bear and Nosferatu."

Me: "Sure, why not. And you will be...?"

GF: "I'll be your whore."

Big pause while everyone in the house knew what was coming.

Me: "How will that be different from every other day?"

GF's Mom, Sis, and Auntie: "WAHHH!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... snort... Gaghhh, hee hee hee hee... snicker... chortle..."



btw, the costumes were so cool.

START
11-03-2004, 02:44 PM
I made it threw "the most evil day of the year" and so far nobody has vandalized the house eventhough the people across the street did get TP'd and they gave out Kit Kats.
My mother at the last minute decided on her own that the scary tracts probably wouldn't be effective so we passed out the comic ones with candy...I knew she would come to her senses.
My step dad made my brother up who is in casts anyway to look like a car accident victim which didn't go over well at all with Mama Start but other than that Halloween night passed by very smoothly.

Never to be Queen
11-03-2004, 04:47 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't hate Halloween so much as I would be trying to distance myself from my parents. You seem to realize that it is them causing the problems and not Halloween itself.

Anyway, glad you didn't get rolled and you got to hand out some candy afterall.