I hear all the time about "The Liberal Media", but how about in entertainment

[Scott Plaid]

I hear all the time about "The Liberal Media", but how about in entertainment?

I read a friends newspapers, and he gets a paper that containts the comic strip "Mallard Phillmore." It contains the most ridiculous stereotypes and demonizations of liberals. I am horrified by it, but I can not help but sneak a peak every time I am at his house. I get the feeling the underlying message about pop-culture found between the lines is:

"At the end of the day, I want to sit down and watch brain numbing tv. I am angry that I see social issue discussed everywhere, and I am disgusted by the fact that they are produced by people who are liberal, not people who are socially conservative."

http://jewishworldreview.com/strips...00/MFT50107.jpg

http://jewishworldreview.com/strips...00/MFT50101.jpg

I also feel I see this viewpoint in South Park, especially the latest one. In my mind, visibility of various groups on tv is a good thing, and I figured that the writers would see that, but instead they seem to say, "You can be as weird as you want to be, you just have to accept that we don't like you, and we will mock your view point.

Oh, and I know that everyone says "They try to mock both sides, but I am just not seeing it.

You might recall I tried to start threads on this topic in Cafe Society, but I cut my losses and am trying it here.

[BF]

Linkie no workie for me...

[Scott Plaid]

From the horrible idea I had to put a political discussion in Cafe Society:
Well, I think you would have to pull tons of examples from both sides, to show that they're attacking "genuine" concerns on the right but "straw men" on the left. As a lefty, I think they've been pretty hilariously on-target (and simultaneously broadly stereotypical in their depictions) in their attacks on both sides.
Ok, I can not remember any examples besides the one about election recounts, and the latest one, but I will try and show examples of straw men arguments in SP from TV tome. I fully realize that without having seen the episode personally, it doesn't show me the whole picture, but this concerns me.

Trapper Keeper (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-344/epid-6578/)
The kindergarten election just goes on and on. That is how I felt about the real election, but it does not reflect reality. Here, it is made to look like recounts are about not admitting you lost.

The Death Camp of Tolerance (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-344/epid-212343/)
A gay teacher, Mr. Slave becomes the new teacher. He appears to be along the lines that having a gay teacher will lead to "moral decadence" Mr. Garrison is given his "Courageous Teacher" award and his attempt to shock the very tolerant crowd doesn't work. Irked at their tolerance of his behavior, he reminds them all that tolerance and acceptance are two different things; you can tolerate something and still be pissed off about it.


Red Hot Catholic Love (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-344/epid-172693/)
This one clearly show it is bad for priests to molest kids. Yay! Good message. However, it also says that getting “under god” removed from the declaration of independence is a bad thing. feh. I have seen this one. It end with people deciding: "After all, without religion in their lives they'll just go around spewing a bunch of crap out of their mouths."

In conclusion:

feh.

P.S. The comic strips aren’t working for me anymore and king syndicate isn’t letting me link either. Here is an archive of strips, though it will probably be of more use to his fans than his enemies. the comics I had are no longer available on the page below. They had a bizarre looking Barbra Streisand calling blue states idiots, Dan Rather with a Smirk, talking about blue states, and February 25 05 :

In which Mallard puts down the Oscars for acting like the committee knows more than the average guy. In other words, he feels the media speaks down to him, and over represents liberals.
http://jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallardarchives.asp

[elfkin477]

Trapper Keeper (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-344/epid-6578/)
The kindergarten election just goes on and on. That is how I felt about the real election, but it does not reflect reality. Here, it is made to look like recounts are about not admitting you lost.

You object to the episode reflecting reality?

[Harborwolf]

I can understand where people feel the need to judge the quality of the news based upon their own political leanings. Well, not really but I won't begrudge them the right.

Judging your entertainment by your political leanings is a step too far. If you don't like something, that's fine. Don't go throwing politics into it. :rolleyes:

And by the by, the writers of South Park do actually hit both sides fairly consistently. You should actually watch the show on a regular basis before you make up your mind.

[Walloon]

However, it also says that getting “under god” removed from the declaration of independence is a bad thing.The phrase "under God" isn't from the Declaration of Independence. It's from the Pledge of Allegiance as amended in the 1950s.

[AskNott]

Why does Bruce Tinsley make Mallard Fillmore tell the same joke for five days in a row? No wonder that duck is so grouchy.

[Scott Plaid]

Agh, sorry. That is what comes from righting to fast. Oh, and good point about the same jokes, AskNott.

[Bryan Ekers]

Okay, at what point in a discussion like this does someone accuse someone else of trying to cram something down someone's throat?

[Scott Plaid]

About now. :smack: Argh, I get it. No one thinks that right wingers trying to say "television is all left wing, and is must be stopped", is a big problem that needs to be addressed. Well, except for one or two on this tread, and one the south park thread, which I feft, because I felt I was getting off topic. I should have stayed. :smack:

[Bryan Ekers]

Argh, I get it. No one thinks that right wingers trying to say "television is all left wing, and is must be stopped", is a big problem that needs to be addressed.

More accurately, you've addressed it in such a clumsy, hamfisted, squirrel-minded manner that no-one is taking you seriously, preferring instead to wait for the more entertaining outrages of Reeder's next Bush-bash.

[elfkin477]

About now. :smack: Argh, I get it. No one thinks that right wingers trying to say "television is all left wing, and is must be stopped", is a big problem that needs to be addressed.

Admitting no one cares is the first step towards a more varied thread topic selection.

[Harborwolf]

About now. :smack: Argh, I get it. No one thinks that right wingers trying to say "television is all left wing, and is must be stopped", is a big problem that needs to be addressed.

Actually, I think that anyone trying to attribute political motives to an entertainment medium needs psychological assistance. Then again, I'm an old crank.

[Scott Plaid]

I was under the opinion that many entertainer hold political opinions, that they express in their work, such as the recent insulting of transgendered people in the most recent episode of South Park. I now realize I am wrong. All television shows are written by robots. For an example of a robot written show, see,"Everyone loves Raymond" I will now see a psychoanalist.