"The Jew is the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil."

[alterego]

Take a few minutes if, like me, you've not yet had the opportunity to actually read "Mein Kampf" or "My Struggle (http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/hitler.htm)" by Adolf Hitler. It's been seriously shortened here and should only take a little while to go through...I put it in the pit because there's nothing to debate, it's not mundane, i'm not asking a question, I wouldn't like to talk about it over a cafe, and it just seems like the best place.

[Kythereia]

Erm. What, exactly, do you want to talk about, regarding Mein Kampf?

[Jackmannii]

Sorry, I wouldn't dream of reading an abridged version of Mein Kampf and missing all the good stuff.


It is true though. I am Evil.

[El_Kabong]

This guy Hitler sounds dangerous to me. I say if he gains significant political power, we kick Germany out of NATO.

[Miller]

Is it really necessary to pit Hitler? I mean... he's evil. We get it, already. Anybody who hasn't figured that out by now, isn't going to be swayed by this thread.

[Jackmannii]

Stalin sucks, too.

And he didn't even write any bestsellers.

[Larry Borgia]

I'm reminded of the Onion columnist Jackie Harvey, who writes "The outside scoop." He had a column titled Hitler Was Wrong! in which he said "Kudos to Ted Turner for ripping the lid off this historical villain!"

[ultrafilter]

Is it really necessary to pit Hitler? I mean... he's evil. We get it, already.

Well, that and he's been dead 60 years.

[Polycarp]

Kind of a meta-excursion from the topic, but how exactly would Godwin's Law apply to this thread? :dubious:

[Miller]

Kind of a meta-excursion from the topic, but how exactly would Godwin's Law apply to this thread? :dubious:

Clearly, it would reverse to the allied side. The first person to accuse the OP of being worse than Churchill automatically loses the debate.

[leander]

Is it really necessary to pit Hitler? I mean... he's evil. We get it, already. Anybody who hasn't figured that out by now, isn't going to be swayed by this thread.I dunno, I've been on the fence about this Hitler fella for awhile now...but after this brilliant OP I can now see what an evil guy he really was!

[dropzone]

He does make some intriguing points, though.The only possibility which Germany had of carrying a sound territorial policy into effect was that of acquiring new territory in Europe itself. A goal which could have been reached only by war, for which there was only one possible ally in Europe. That was England.England could use some more land.
I respected my father, but I loved my mother. Have any of your heard of that alienist, Fraud or Froid or something? He'd probably have a field day with this Hilter (sp?) fellow.

[Scott Plaid]

alterego, for daring to compare Hitler with Hitler, you have gone too far. You and your kind are worse than The Beatles! :mad:

[Jackmannii]

The first person to accuse the OP of being worse than Churchill automatically loses the debate.Ve vere not "Narr-zees".

Ve vere NAZIS!

[Yeticus Rex]

Clearly, it would reverse to the allied side. The first person to accuse the OP of being worse than Churchill automatically loses the debate.
Shouldn't it be better than Churchill?

[Kimstu]

Mein Kampf shows up all over the place in Indian bookstores. Apparently the "Hindutva" Hindu-communalist movement admires its "Aryan nationalism".



(Well, it was all I could think of to say about Mein Kampf. Good lord, I think alterego has actually discovered a rant-proof Pit topic.)

[rjung]

Ve vere not "Narr-zees".

Ve vere NAZIS!
"Nazis"?

That'd make a cool name for a bunch of movie villians.

[Bryan Ekers]

So, how long can a Hitler thread last before someone mentions Heinlein or homosexuality?

[Good Egg]

This may be a good place to remark upon this; I read somewhere that everyone was up in arms because Hitler wanted a united Europe, and now we do have one and its a good thing. Different times?

[betenoir]

This may be a good place to remark upon this; I read somewhere that everyone was up in arms because Hitler wanted a united Europe, and now we do have one and its a good thing. Different times?

Err...a bit more than different times. If you can't note the difference between a Europe united as a union with similar economic and political interests and Europe united under the heel of a dictator who wanted a certain portion of the European population destroyed in the name of purity...well, maybe this OP does have a purpose. Try reading Mein Kampf and then come back and compare the Third Reich to the EU.

[bizzwire]

Sorry, I wouldn't dream of reading an abridged version of Mein Kampf and missing all the good stuff.


It is true though. I am Evil.

Funny...you don't type Jewish......

[Scissorjack]

Stalin sucks, too.

And he didn't even write any bestsellers.

Mussolini did, though. And Saddam Hussein.

[Miller]

And all three of 'em are pikers compared to Mao.

[Good Egg]

agrred, Didn't Mao kill more people than the others? I know someone who thinks he killed no one.

[Miller]

I dunno about that. I was just talking about book sales.

[Metacom]

agrred, Didn't Mao kill more people than the others? I know someone who thinks he killed no one.
Technically, their right. Mostly it was the starvation.

[Good Egg]

I dunno about that. I was just talking about book sales.

:dubious: :p

[carnivorousplant]

Funny...you don't type Jewish......

Our "i"s usually don't have dots. It's a Yiddish font.
;j

[carnivorousplant]

Well, that and he's been dead 60 years.
Good gad, man! Get a grip!
Don't you know he led the Falkland War from his secret bunker in Buenos Aries at the age of 96?

[Guinastasia]

But...according to Jack Chick, the Vatican is the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil! I'm so confused!

[mobo85]

But...according to Jack Chick, the Vatican is the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil! I'm so confused!

Jack Chick often refers to Hitler's Germany as "Catholic Germany." Apparently, the reason Hitler was so evil was because he was a member of Satan's church.

[Scissorjack]

And all three of 'em are pikers compared to Mao.

What if we throw Kim Il Jung into the mix?

[zagloba]

This may be a good place to remark upon this; I read somewhere that everyone was up in arms because Hitler wanted a united Europe, and now we do have one and its a good thing. Different times?Err...a bit more than different times. If you can't note the difference...

betenoir, either Good Egg has whooshed you or you've whooshed me. I cracked up when I read Good Egg's post.

[carnivorousplant]

But...according to Jack Chick, the Vatican is the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil! I'm so confused!
This is supposed to be one of those Elders of Zion secrets, but I'll clue you in: we wear the same kind of hat. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4353725.stm)

[astorian]

Okay, I read it. And I have to say...

I don't like the sound of these Boncentration Bamps.

[Jackmannii]

Speaking of bestsellers, anyone remember "The Little Red Book of Chairman LBJ" (a parody of Mao's book)?


It was full of classic Lyndon sayings, such as "Don't spit in the soup. We've all got to eat."




And is it Kim Jong Il or Kim Il Jong? I might need to look him up in the phone book.

[RTFirefly]

"Don't be a schtupid, be a schmarty,
come and join the Nazi Party!"
-Springtime for Hitler

[Jackmannii]

This is supposed to be one of those Elders of Zion secrets, but I'll clue you in: we wear the same kind of hat. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4353725.stm)Stop spilling the beans, or you'll be sleeping with the gefilte fishes.

[Ponder Stibbons]

Well, I'll say this. I finally found out what the other two Reichs were. Plus Adolph sure was a whiney fuck, wasn't he?

[Ponder Stibbons]

Gah! I meant Adolf, of course. I have no idea how whiney Mr. Coors was.

[Kythereia]

So Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and Hitler walk into a bar...

[carnivorousplant]

So Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and Hitler walk into a bar...

...and the bartender says, "What is this, a joke?"

[Scott Plaid]

::Kabong!, the sound of multiple heads hitting a door-frame mounted metal chin-up bar. ::

They should look where they are going.

[Balle_M]

Okay, I read it. And I have to say...

I don't like the sound of these Boncentration Bamps.

No wonder...you've got the wrong map. That's a map of Stalingrad. You can't have much fun at Stalingrad.

I said, You can't have much fun at Stalingrad.

[betenoir]

betenoir, either Good Egg has whooshed you or you've whooshed me. I cracked up when I read Good Egg's post.

Hmmm...quite possible. Comes from spending time at a end-of-the-world fundie board where then believe the EU is the beast with ten heads the Anti-Christ rides in on. Thus making the idea that Good Egg was serious seem all too plausable. I've got to stop hanging out over there :p .

[Scissorjack]

So Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and Hitler walk into a bar...

...and they see Jeffrey Archer sitting by himself in the corner, looking glum...

[Muad'Dib]

So, how long can a Hitler thread last before someone mentions Heinlein or homosexuality?

Eh? Whst does Heinlein have to do with Nazis?

[Nocturne]

So, how long can a Hitler thread last before someone mentions Heinlein or homosexuality?

Heinlein was a homosexual Nazi.

Just helping you out, and all.

[carnivorousplant]

Heinlein was a homosexual Nazi.

He didn't look National Socialist.

[QuickSilver]

Heinlein was a homosexual Nazi.

Just helping you out, and all.

I heard his mother was Jewish and father was a gypsy.

Just what I heard.... what?

;j

[Good Egg]

I actually did read that, on a fundie website. I know very well a united Europe isn't a bad thing and that Hitler was a dictator. Are you saying a United Europe couldn't e taken over by another dictator? I think they were implying a united anything was bad, globally.

[TJdude825]

So, how long can a Hitler thread last before someone mentions Heinlein or homosexuality? Maybe 17 or 18 posts?

[duffer]

agrred, Didn't Mao kill more people than the others? I know someone who thinks he killed no one.

I'll see your Mao and raise you a Pol Pot.

(Is there a site that compares the deaths attributable to dictators?)

[Miller]

I'll see your Mao and raise you a Pol Pot.

(Is there a site that compares the deaths attributable to dictators?)

Like this one? (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/021018.html)

[duffer]

Like this one? (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/021018.html)

Shit! :smack: I forgot about that article. Thanks Miller

[Jackmannii]

So Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and Hitler walk into a bar...The bartender says to Mussolini, "What'll you have?"

The rest of them order the bartender to be executed for not serving them first.


Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!

[HPL]

Stalin sucks, too.

And he didn't even write any bestsellers.
That's okay. In Stalin's Russia, getting caught reading something by stalin wrote could get you sent to the gulags.

Because if you can read Something by comrade stalin, then it's just a small step to reading counter-revoluntionary literature. Either that or you're a spy trying to hide yourself. Either way, We can't take that chance, so off to the Gulag with you.

[El_Kabong]

::Kabong!, the sound of multiple heads hitting a door-frame mounted metal chin-up bar. ::

Oh, great, so now I'm being lumped in with Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and Hitler...

[Scott Plaid]

Oh, great, so now I'm being lumped in with Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and Hitler...
He has a guitar, I repeat, suspect has a guitar. I need back up, now!
Guitar Control (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-5484/epid-373774/)

[Mr. Excellent]

Eh? Whst does Heinlein have to do with Nazis?

Some of Heinlein's short stories, arguably, seem to advocate a sort of fascism. Also Starship Troopers. I can see it in Starship Troopers, where only military veterans are citizens - but I'm skeptical about the shorter stories. I prefer to believe that as a good science fiction writer, Heinlein was just doing his job and playing with whatever future political system struck him as interesting - but I'd be willing to be proven wrong, if someone has solid evidence the guy was a fascist.

[Scott Plaid]

It sounds an awful lot like Greece, or maybe Rome, I can't remember which one. Whatever. I'm am pretty sure he based it on whicever one was more facist, not national socialists, though.