View Full Version : Oscar right, or a stereotyping bigot (albeit indubitably homophilic) asshole?
04-15-2005, 10:59 PM
For the great man said: "The old believe everything; the middle-aged suspect everything; the young know everything."
Does this ring any bells regarding the Dope? Are the old (here's looking at you, Mr Simmons! - Polycarp, I'll let you off) so credulous?
Are the middle-aged (a category into which I may have slipped, although I'm still taken for 35 by people wanting me to buy them a drink) so sceptical, so cynical? (Not roger, I hear you shout.)
And then what about the youngsters, the fresh graduates, of whom we have a good few? Do they really think they know everything? Or is it just, as I suspect (hah! the stereotype may have something to it), the impression they want to give, while deep down they know they lag behind the likes of Dave, Poly and me?
04-15-2005, 11:24 PM
Well, I must say that, after one semester of college, I do indeed know everything that there is know in all of the universe. :D
04-15-2005, 11:36 PM
I certainly knew everything when I was young. I am thankful to have forgotten much of it; otherwise there would be no room in my head for new stuff, and I would get an "out of memory error" every time I encountered anything I wanted to keep in mind.
This kind of memory problem is called "hardening of the smarteries."
04-16-2005, 12:12 AM
I agree with pinkfreud. When I was a brand new nurse, I knew more than any of those old, burned out, nurses. As time passed I began to understand just how little I knew. Maybe I did come to a point of questioning everything. I still question the world at every opportunity, but with less venom.
My in-laws are in their 80s. Now they believe everything. They've been scammed so many times, we've asked the stop answering the phone.
roger thornhill, your quote reminds me of something in medicine I heard years ago. Sorry, I have no idea where its from.
"An Internist knows everything, and does nothing. A Surgeon knows nothing, and does everything. A Pathologist knows everything, and does everything, but a day too late."
04-16-2005, 12:12 AM
So-crates: The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
I am 24 and that is what I got out of college. ;)
The more I learn, the more I know that I don't know all that much.
04-16-2005, 12:57 PM
I assumed this thread was going to be about Oscar Madison. :smack:
04-18-2005, 02:57 AM
"An Internist knows everything, and does nothing. A Surgeon knows nothing, and does everything. A Pathologist knows everything, and does everything, but a day too late."I'm fascinated by the background to this. Internist is fresh out of med school and bookish and earnest - ok. But surgeon as winging it? That's new to me. Care to explain. I take it pathologists are considered clever but slow (overly careful?).
04-18-2005, 03:05 AM
I'm fascinated by the background to this. Internist is fresh out of med school and bookish and earnest - ok. But surgeon as winging it? That's new to me. Care to explain. I take it pathologists are considered clever but slow (overly careful?).
Not sure about the surgeon, but I think the point is that the pathologist works only with the dead - ie. arguably when it's too late to do any good!
04-18-2005, 03:56 AM
It's not that the surgeon is "winging it." S/he just doesn't have the fresh-faced internist's naive certainty about everything, and unlike the internist, s/he's always elbow-deep in people, and not doing routine gruntwork.
Pathologists don't only work with dead people (except autopsy pathologists.) It's just that their patients are already quite ill.
04-18-2005, 04:07 AM
Fascinating insight into the world that my mother always wanted me to enter.
One more question. Which is the nuttier group: surgeons or psychiatrists? The surgeons I've met are nutty as fruitcakes (the "price of genius" as one of them put it to me after he'd been ripped off by another Asian lady), but shrinks have a reputation to keep up.
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