Passing A Drug Test

[Ishi Pishi]

Does anyone have any first-hand experience with the "pass-your-drug-test" products that are on the market? Do any of them actually help? I am specifically concerned with marijuana/THC. Thanks.

[Mr. Cynical]

Good luck. A damn good friend of mine lost out on a high paying job cause the one he bought did not work.

[Nen]

The best way to pass a drug test is to not do any. I know probably doesn't help your situation. My recommendation would be to drink several gallons of cranberry juice each day until the day before your test. It helps purge your system of certain chemicals. Personally, I can't vouch for the credentials of any products which allegedly assist passing such tests.

[AWB]

Like Nen said, don't do any.

Geez, there's a reason they're testing you. They don't want any drug users on their staff!

[Moe]

Well, everyone who has said not to do drugs, as a way of passing your test is of course correct. Duh! There is no better way. However, I don't really think that answers the question you were asking. You seem to be asking how does one who wishes to use drugs pass a drug test.

So, I will give you my first-hand experience and advice. Naturally Klean tea. It should be in any herbal shop or health food store. It will cost you about 20 bucks. It comes in a few different flavors (they really aren't that bad). There are 4 bags in the box, each making a quart. You boil a gallon of water, use all 4 bags and drink the entire gallon beginning 3 hrs. before your test. Plus take vitamin B to put color back in your urine. I used to use this all the time and it does indeed work. I don't use it anymore because I don't do drugs anymore (for the most part) and I find it is a lot less stressful should my company spring a surprise test on me. But you asked for info, so here it is.

and AWB, I don't know if it's so much the reason you gave, as it is image. Companies like to be able to say "we are a drug free company" because it is better for business. Of course I'm sure that ideally they don't want drug users working for them.

[Ishi Pishi]

Originally posted by AWB
Geez, there's a reason they're testing you. They don't want any drug users on their staff!

This has nothing to do with my job. But thanks for the little lecture anyway. I really appreciate it.

My thanks to the other responses. I'm looking for specific brands that people have used and have had success with. I'll check out Naturally Klean when I get home.

[Sofa King]

Ummm. I have a "friend" who has a fair amount of experience with this sort of thing. I'll lay out some of the basics.

First off, you have to ask your "friend" how often he or she smokes. If it is once a month, the THC has usually been reduced to undetectable levels within a week or two, provided the testee smokes no more before the test. If, on the other hand, the testee is a "smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, and then I smoke two more" kind of person, some tests can nail such behavior forty-five or more days after the testee has gone cold turkey. There are a few options open to a person who is going to be tested, but they are dependent on the lead-time before the test, the nature of the test, and the level of THC the person is trying to disguise.

First option: "three hour tea" and variants. Okay, I have it on good authority that these things work. However, exactly how they work is open to debate. I'm inclined to suspect that most of these teas are simply diuretics. So you drink like six gallons of something that makes you pee like a racehorse for a day, and come test time your urine is so close to pure water it could be bottled by Evian. Warning: I had a pal who pulled this trick while on probation. Results came back, "we aren't even sure this is piss". He spent Christmas in the pokie. My suggestion is to take a Vitamin B or multivitamin to give your urine some color.

Second option: Go to boot camp. If you have, say, a month to prepare, go on a diet and exercise like you're Rocky preparing for the big fight. THC is stored in fat cells. Burn a crapload of those cells down, and you've rooted out a lot of THC. Probably works well in combination with option #1 if you are--I mean your friend is--a heavy smoker with a couple of weeks to prepare.

Third option: sabotage. A few drops of bleach in your urine is sufficient to defeat most standard urinalyses. If you are conducting the test under semi-observed conditions, as in "strip to your underwear and take this cup to the men's room", a Band-Aid soaked in bleach just before the test can be worn on the finger, then vigorously swirled in the cup while in the toilet. This appears to have worked at least once. Other sleight-of-had tricks can be attempted if the test is performed under direct observation. Crystal Drano can be hidden under the fingernails, etc. Good luck on that one. I should add that some modern tests may look for tampering.

Fourth option: pray. In office-type situations, many drug test threats are just that: threats, sometimes used to scare off potsmokers from pursuing a job, or to put the fear of God into current employees. Even if it is for real, reliable drug tests are expensive, so if an entire office is tested, oftentimes only a random sample is selected. You might get lucky.

Fifth option: appeal! After the test, do not start back up again until the results are in! It can sometimes takes weeks for a result to come back to the authorities in question. If they come back positive, get indignant as hell, cite the disturbing "false positive" figures that urinalyses are notorious for, and demand a re-test. You should be in the clear by now if you weren't. Of course, even if you are fully exonerated, suspicion will remain, and you are virtually guaranteed to be "randomly selected" the next time around. Your potsmoking career is at an end if you want to keep your professional career.

You'll notice I said nothing about blood tests. Ain't no way out of those, as far as I know. Good luck.

[brad_d]

I hear quite a bit about them, but I don't know any real statistics (or estimates). Does anyone know what the "false positive" rate is on urine and/or blood tests? I'm sure it depends on a number of factors, but I'd be interested in hearing about it.

The impression I get is that the rate is most definitely nonzero. If you go in there 100% clean, there is a finite chance of a positive result from the test.

I find it kind of disturbing, myself.....

[Commander Cyclops]

Go here:

http://www.cleartest.com

I haven't tried any of this stuff myself, I'm using the Temporary Abstinence Method, but they seem to know what they're talking about. Especially read the FAQ closely.

[Hamadryad]

Quite honestly, if you're job hunting and you can't stop smoking dope long enough to find a job, you're smoking too much goddamned dope.

It's not physically addictive, but it is psychologically addictive. If you're actively job-hunting and STILL smoking, you have a PROBLEM.

As far as the OP...no idea what products actually work. Carry on, citizens.

[Sofa King]

Regarding FPs, Cyclops' recommended site also offers this page. (http://www.cleartest.com/testinfo/falsepos.html)

And here (http://www.lindesmith.org/library/grmorg2.html#sec7) you can find a quoted "false positive" figure of 10%. They note that this 10% is not "should have been negative", simply "unconfirmed". Probably a lot of those FPs are a result of my ploy #5 stated above.

That's everything relevant and constructive I have to say. However...

I am of the mind that if some bastard wants to look at my piss to see what I'm doing in my own spare PRIVATE time, I will go to the farthest lengths to make such testing as expensive, unreliable, and suspect as I possibly can. This bullshit was started to make sure that people doing dangerous jobs weren't doing drugs on the job. Today a boss can look into your private life as easily as he can look up your home address. That's just disgusting, IMHO.

[wring]

I've worked with ex-offenders for 20+ years, so, much of my "piss-test" information is based on that. First of all the reasons why many companies have pre employment automatic drug screens and post employment random screens is because of insurance. they can get a break on their worker's comp insurance b=cuz of that.
secondly, the only thing that removes stuff from your system is time. sorry. watering down your urine by drinking alot doesn't really clean your bloodstream of drugs any quicker and does lead to the problem that was noted above (that your pee will soon be more like water and will trigger a different charge). while urine is the result of the kidneys clearing out the blood, the BLOOD doesn't flow faster through the kidney's just 'cause there's more water going through the system. the bleach/drano I'd heard, too, but a savvy tester will discern these.

I'm assuming that you're male. females have an out in terms of getting by drug screens if it's the traditional pee into this bottle/cup routine. I know - I took drops on females for 14 years, came up with a way to trip that up eventually, too.

by the way, drinking vinegar, definately DOES NOT work....

the tests are highly sophisticated and accurate these days. but what this also means, is that they sacrifice a certain percentage of "false negatives" to keep the potential for "false positives" near zero. Each sample may be tested twice, first a general "gee is there something in there" -if that's positive, then a more specialized "what is it" would be done. and each step, there will be some that fall into the "false negative" range to account for the individual results of all these 'you'll pass urine test" gigs. Plus, it has been my experience that many drug users do not really keep accurate records of their use - for example, many times they'd think "I used 4 days ago", but in reality, they used late Sunday night, the drop was taken early Wednesday morning, well within the range for many tests, and often don't really know what they were taking - had many folks come up positive for opiates and insist their innocence - but they'd taken a tylenol #3 for example.

I'm not in the business anymore of telling adults how to spend their free time, but every action has potential consequences. I had a client to whom smoking dope was a priority in his life. to the extent that he was willing to accept as expected consequences of this lifestyle option periodic episodes of homelessness, and the selling of his plasma twice a month as part of his budgeting process. and more power to him.

[pkbites]

As a consulting firm my employer sometimes sets up for several of our clients perspective employees to be tested. Some of those suplements which is supposed to provide a clean test, work, but some tests can detect the supplement itself, making the testing agency suspicious! (Why is so much of this ingredient in your urin)I don't know which supplement this is, but I have it on good authority that this is true. I don't use drugs, but I refused to take all 3 drug tests I was asked to take by my employer over the last 15 years. I told our current district manager that if he ever asks me for one without probable cause I am going to whip Mr. Johnson out and give him his sample right there. Stunned by this, he has not requested such a test from me in the 6 years he's been there! I suggest you look for work at a place with a more libertarian attitude towards your privacy!;)

[Mr. Cynical]

And for the record, the current cool way to say it is no longer Piss Test, or Golden Flow, but the very cool : Whiz Quiz.

[wring]

hate to be out of the loop on stuff like that - makes me look so uncool to the kid.
it's been (thankfully) 9 years since I had to watch folks pee into containers, don't miss it in the least.

and, for the record, I'm not a fan of POST employment drug tests withough probable cause, either. Of course, since I once tripped, going UP the stairs and ended up with $400 worth of medical problems for a bruise the size of a grapefruit (and one of those BIG ones, 3 for a buck variety), probable cause isns't as tough as you might think.

[Ishi Pishi]

A lot of conflicting stories. Some say the products work. Others say nothing works. I kinda' figured that. Same thing I've found all over the internet. And once again, for the record, it's not for my job. I would never submit to a test for employment, just on principle. I have a meeting with a probabtion officer (it's related to a DUI) on Tuesday. There's the off chance that I'll get tested then. I have not smoked very much pot in the last two or three weeks (I would normally call myself a moderate pot smoker), but I'm still worried about testing positive for it, as I've heard all kinds of horror stories over the years about how long it stays in your system. I would like to do what I can to make sure I come out clean. Yeah, I should have quit smoking it altogether. Yeah, it's my own fault and I deserve what I get. Yeah, I'm an idiot. Blah, blah, blah. Whatever. I just wanted to know what other's experiences with drug tests were. My thanks to those that shared their knowledge.

[wring]

and since my experience is mainly wigh CJ system....pot CAN stay for quite a while. what you describe (a couple times in the past 2 - 3 weeks) is pretty likely to show up. No lecture from me on the whole thing - like I said, I stopped telling adults what to do long ago. you've got an off chance, but.... in my state, a positive urinalysis while on probation for a DUI (which would be considered to be substance abuse related) will probably take you back before the judge. Best bet is BEFORE you go in to the agent, up your attendance at counseling/AA or whatever you're doing. If you're not doing anything yet, get pre-emptive and start before you go in to the PO. don't mention it tho' but be prepared to show proof. good luck.

[Cartooniverse]

Originally posted by pkbites
I told our current district manager that if he ever asks me for one without probable cause I am going to whip Mr. Johnson out and give him his sample right there. Stunned by this, he has not requested such a test from me in the 6 years he's been there! I suggest you look for work at a place with a more libertarian attitude towards your privacy!;)

Well, lah dee dah. What if your chosen field doesn't indulge this kind of granola-munching, Birkenstock-trodding, armpit-hair macrame "Fuck You Buddy, I can work elsewhere anyway" thinking? My father worked for the Federal Gummint for more than 20 years. There was NO question, he had to do the random tests. What's he going to do, refuse and lose his Security Clearance? This isn't Woodostock, it's a JOB !!!! Grrrrr.......

He keept an up-to-date list of medications with him at all times, so that he could provide them if randomly chosen. He happens to adore Poppy Seed bagels, and yeah it sounds like a real U.L. but Daddy had it happen- the Poppy Seeds tripped a falst positive. He passed the follow up of course.

Learning to either take them with some modicum of grace, or not is a choice you have to make, depending on your chosen career.

Cartooniverse

[jb_farley]

if you are VERY desperate, consider the ol' Texas Catheter. note- this should only be done by a professional. dilute your own juice however you see fit. cranberry juice, goldenseal, massive amounts of water, whatever.

a few hours before the test (the sooner the better), insert a catheter into your urethra, and have as much urine drained as possible. using the same catheter, do what i can only describe as a 'penile enema', using pee from somebody that you are sure is clean (after all, what's the point of shoving a plastic tupe up into your nether regions if you are going to fail the test anyway). hurry the hell up to the cup, and let it all flow.

as to the morality of this (after all, you are lying), well i think it's a lot more immoral to invade such an obviously private domain, and use the information to fire someone solely because of something they were doing on their own time. if they don't know you are using drugs without the test, it's obviously not impairing your ability to do your job. if it is impairing your function, then hell, you should get fired anyway.

[Jello]

I heard it stays in your system for 28 days, but that won't do too much good now...

[themachine]

A friend (REALLY!) that smokes several times per day, quit his job and was asked to piss at nearly every auto shop he went to for a job. After 4 days of sipping vinegar he drank a Carbo-Clean shake the day of the test and passed.

Something either worked, don't believe it was the vinegar, or they did not really test his sample. I have heard that the man may select 150 of 1,000, people to sample, and then only test perhaps 15 of the 150 samples.

I would rather be part of an idiot-free work place...

[dragonlady]

Don't know about pot. Had a friend on a "no meth" probation. Had to test every week. Got busted again 6 months later and was told he had failed EVERY SINGLE TEST.
He tried everything from bleach to carbo-clean. Except, of course, QUITTING- which was the object. I never did figure out why they never told him he was testing dirty, or why they never rolled him up.

[dustin]

I've heard the stuff you buy like goldenseal do not work. The water makes it work I think. Check out this faq on drug testing. Read it all.
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml

also here is another with various links...
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing.shtml

[Gatsby]

I just passed one using Detoxify® (http://www.detoxify.com/) Ready Clean®

I was clean for two weeks prior, and drank a lot of water before too.

Not making any claims, just telling you what happened. It was $30 a bottle, and it tasted like shit.

I passed. Correlation does not imply causation, YMMV, and any other disclaimers you can think of.

[Joe Friday]Just the facts[/Joe Friday]

[tcburnett]

Ironic. I live on the Big Island. We grow the best pakololo this side of the Golden Triangle. Buds are about as big around as your thumb, and have so much THC that if you touch one it will stick to your finger. People smoke the stuff right out in public, no big deal. In fact, the state just legalized it if you have a prescription from a doctor or a recommendation from an herbalist. State law doesn't supercede Federal law of course, but no one much cares.

They do drug tests at one or two corporations but for heroin and meth, not for THC. Everyone would fail, so they don't bother.

Now what's ironic? I tried it a couple of times and I hate it. I can get all I want for free but I don't use.

[jb_farley]

tc, could we do some kind of eighties-era body switching thing? you can be judge reinhold and i'll be fred savage. and then we'll switch for a few days. after some time under the beautiful sun surrounded by tropical beauty and smoking buds that are so resinous that they're a gel, sure, i'll come back here no problem. i swear. what, you seem to not believe me?

[tcburnett]

Originally posted by jb_farley
tc, could we do some kind of eighties-era body switching thing? you can be judge reinhold and i'll be fred savage. and then we'll switch for a few days. after some time under the beautiful sun surrounded by tropical beauty and smoking buds that are so resinous that they're a gel, sure, i'll come back here no problem. i swear. what, you seem to not believe me?

Oh, SURE I believe you. And, I'd be happy to do it, too. But I have a pretty heavy dating schedule for the next few months so I can't leave just now. Besides, I kinda like the weather and the diving here, and who would take my boat out fishing?

[Moe]

TC can I get your body after JB. please?please? pretty please with sugar on top? and marshmallows too?
Not so much for the pot, since I rarely smoke these days, but for the dates, and BTW I would guard your boat with my life when I went out fishing :D

Ishi, there are a lot more people here who apparently have a lot more knowledge and info on the subject than myself, and it is certainly good to hear as much as you can from as many
as you can. It can be a scary thing, taking a drug test when you've been using. I don't know if they can tell whether you've been using various detox products, but it certainly seems plausible.
However, I promise and give you my word from experience, I have beaten about 3 or 4 tests using Naturally Klean tea, each where i've smoked much pot (among other things) 2 days before, (never ever do anything the night before, duh!, though it doesn't seem to be an issue with you since you haven't used in at lest a couple weeks IIRC). I got busted (in such a stupid way, but isn't that always the case) during my freshmen year of college and was sentenced to 2 years of random drug tests, (every fuckin Mon Wed and Fri for 2 years I had to wake up in the morning and call a phone #, and if my assigned code # was on the voice mail, I had to report in for a whiz quiz ;) that evening). Over the course of those 2 years I had about 3 or 4 tests (I don't remember) and in each case used Naturally Klean teas as directed (follow the instructions to a T) took vitamin B (to put color back in the urine, BTW buy and take extra Vitamin B, they give you some in the box, but I found it was never enough, take it hours before you even start drinking the tea, then one while you're drinking it). I never had a problem.
I hope this helps.

Stay outta trouble Kid ;)

[Wonko The Sane]

Originally posted by jb_farley
if you are VERY desperate, consider the ol' Texas Catheter. note- this should only be done by a professional. dilute your own juice however you see fit. cranberry juice, goldenseal, massive amounts of water, whatever.

a few hours before the test (the sooner the better), insert a catheter into your urethra, and have as much urine drained as possible. using the same catheter, do what i can only describe as a 'penile enema', using pee from somebody that you are sure is clean (after all, what's the point of shoving a plastic tupe up into your nether regions if you are going to fail the test anyway). hurry the hell up to the cup, and let it all flow.

as to the morality of this (after all, you are lying), well i think it's a lot more immoral to invade such an obviously private domain, and use the information to fire someone solely because of something they were doing on their own time. if they don't know you are using drugs without the test, it's obviously not impairing your ability to do your job. if it is impairing your function, then hell, you should get fired anyway.

I was with you 'till you mentioned the part about someone else's pee. Eww.

[CnoteChris]

I too was in your same boat, i.e., probation for a DUI and random tests. While I gave up the evil weed years ago, others in the program didn't. The few that I got to know who used only used sporadically, like you. We all got tested (myself only once in a year's time)and the user's who failed would not be immediately 'hauled before the judge'like the aforementioned post warned. Instead, probation warned the person and stepped up the testing. That's it. They give you some slack in these programs because they're ovewhelmed with DUI offenders and don't have the resources to bog down the courts with follow-ups.

My advice to you: Don't sweat it, but don't take advantage of it either. Mellow out on the weed long before a test, let them see that you're a do-gooder and then they'll leave you alone. Go from there.

[doreen]

Ishi,

Having been on the other side of your situation ( I was a parole officer), I can tell you this : Many people walked out of my office with an appointment at a drug program after they admitted using , but _no one_ left without handcuffs if they denied using and then tested positive.
I can also tell you a few other things. At least some tests tests for adulterants and chemicals that should be found in normal urine at certain concentrations. If adulterants are found, or if the chemicals are found in lower than normal concentrations (if,say you drank a lot of water to dilute your urine), it's reported. That's like a big red flag that says "He's afraid it's going to be dirty".Also with THC,since it does hang around for a while, it's possible to tell from the level is the use is ongoing ( if use has stopped, the level goes down, if it doesn't, there's been more use between tests.Also, using another person's urine is not such a good idea, because you really don't know if _it's_ clean. ( I did have someone try to pass off another person's positive urine once that I know of)

[sheerah]

I don't know if this will help or not but my current boyfriend is a probation officer with a very high rate of convictions (i.e. sending people to jail for violations). he regularly tests his "clients" at least once a month- sometimes more sometimes less- he keeps it pretty random so they can't try and clean up before the "Whiz Quiz."
Now, because I have experienced certain substances before and during this relationship I asked how long do the substances, especially pot, stay in your system and can be accurately detected. The type of tests he uses in his office can detect trace amounts of marijuana up to 30 days following inhalation or ingestion. Cocaine, LSD, and certain amphetamines have a shorter time span. Alcohol within five to six days. His tests will also pick up on prescription medications (Xanax, Demerol, Ritalin, etc.)And the tests can differentiate between the different forms of drugs, showing exactly what chemicals are present in human urine.
Also, his tests can detect any alterations (i.e. bleach, drano crystals, alcohol, and the masking kits you can find at drug stores and health food stores). Honestly, I find this very creepy that the tests are that high tech.
Needless to say, if he ever comes to me with that little plastic cup, he's history.

[mangeorge]

doreen say's;
"it's possible to tell from the level is the use is ongoing ( if use has stopped, the level goes down, if it doesn't, there's been more use between tests."
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Well, doreen, this isn't always true. In my case, and in others that I've read about, the levels of metabolites can fluctuate greatly. Even many weeks after the last use.
I was still testing positive 8 weeks after my last use, and the levels did rise and fall.
My best advice, Ishi Pishi, is to leave the stuff alone and work to get these idiotic laws repealed. Then maybe we, as adults, can enjoy our free time as we see fit.
Peace,
mangeorge

[LabRat]

Ishi,
I work in a hospital lab that performs drug testing. The substance that they're going to be looking for is called THC-50. Ironically, it has one of the longest half-lives of any of the drugs of abuse and comes from what is arguably the mildest drug. If you're a heavy user (3-5 joints per week for at least several weeks running) it will stay in your system for somewhere in the neighborhood of two weeks. Your solution is simple. Quit for about a month before you take the test. Take it from me. The kits are bullshit. We test for adulterated samples and can pick up most anything that people try. The success stories with the kits are usually due to people overestimating how long THC-50 stays in your system. "I smoked 3 months ago, used this kit, and didn't get caught!" Best of luck.

-LabRat

ps. If you want to thank me for the advice, don't show up at work high.

[mangeorge]

Just to ease your mind, you could get yourself one of those self-test kits to see where you're at before taking an important test.
Peace,
mangeorge

[labdude]

OK, I work in a lab and test urine for drugs. Nothing is 100% going to let you pass if your employer really wants you off all drugs. The only strict employers I know of are airlines and railroads. Most are just testing because of insurace.

Follow the advice of Moe and Sofa King. They know what they are talking about. Generally all the magic stuff sold is crap. The key is water (or tea). If your pee is 99.9% water its harder to find anyting in it.

About false positives. The newer testing equipment is much better than it was 20 years ago, and there are few false positives, especially for THC. There are very expensive test s that have no false positives, but few companies are willing to pay for these. To the best of my knowledge thare are no false positives for THC even in the cheap test. False positives are more common for benzos, PCP, and opiates.
Poppy seed will give you a false positives for opiates because they are the same stuff. Poppy seeds-opium-heroin-morphine are all the same family of compounds.

[Dinsdale]

tc - just have to let you know I hate you.

[Ishi Pishi]

Can anyone tell me the approximate time that a test takes to come back positive/negative (let's assume it's the EMIT test, since that seems to be the most widly used)? After I pee in the cup, how long will it be before I know one way or the other? Is it a matter of a few minutes, or does the sample have to be sent to an off-site lab for analysis? Just curious.

[doreen]

There are some that give the results in a few minutes (like a pregnancy test),but I think most of the time it's sent out, and I'm pretty sure EMIT has to be done at a lab. How long it takes for you to find out probably depends on a number of different variables- how often samples are sent to the lab ( every day or once a week),how long they take to get there , and how quickly and by what method the lab sends the results back ( mailed or faxed).One lab my agency used almost always took at least two weeks to get the results back, even though the samples were picked up daily. Eventually, it started taking closer to a month, then that lab lost the contract, and the new lab (although much further away) seems to be getting the results back within a week.

Check out the below website. Very helpful. Take it to the experts! http://cheaptalk.marijuana.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000003.html
Good Luck!

[wring]

Ok - Variables here are:
employment vs. cj system - cj systems and employment situations involving, say, nuclear reactors (Homer Simpson excluded) are more likely to be more sophisticated.

Since this is CJ system related, now the variables are:
State and locality: each place has a different policy (and also, by the way as to consequences- I'd posted before that in MY locality, they have a zero tolerance for dirtys and if he's there, he's likely to go before the judge again, not slap on the wrist from the PO as was suggested by some one else- I know the folks where I am, they'll take ya before the judge, so stay out of Mid Michigan) I've seen them go from having me personally take the samples to the local lab, to mailing them to California/New York (I've seen each), but lately, the trend is to have quick results. quick results is defined by THESE folks as within about a week. I doubt that any other state would go along with time much more than that. But, it's unlikely you'll be told on the spot. although, if you're really freaked, You CAN take your own spec. to a local lab and pay for the test yourself and find out....

[Catfood Purrito]

I love the place I work at! The Mayo Clinic will not test employees for drugs. I was under the impression that they did, and therefore abstained for a month beforehand and assumed they did the drug test when I went in for my pre-employment physical. Then I sit down at orientation and am told that Mayo will never test an employee for drugs until it starts to affect their work performance, and even then they don't fire you. You have to have a couple of warnings and an addiction treatment program first. This is the way it should be, I gained a great deal of respect for Mayo when I read that. (That, and they extend benefits to same-sex partners!)

[mangeorge]

Here's on site. There are plenty more. Takes 5 min. $9.95.
I can't vouch for it, tho.
http://www.homedrug-test.com/hdt14.htm
Let me know if anyone has tried it. ;)
Peace,
mangeorge

[LabRat]

LabDude,
I agree with everything you've said except for one thing. Every lab that I know of confirms their positives by GC/MS. To everyone else listening, it works as follows. The labs are interested in getting a result for the cheapest price possible. To that end, they use a rapid screening test which will detect drug metabolites but which is also prone to false positives. If your initial screen comes back negative, they look no further and you're done. If the screen comes back positive, the sample is sent to an independent lab to be confirmed by GC/MS. Until that independent lab finds what we found in your screen, the test is not reported. GC/MS does not give false positives. Period. Dot. End of sentence. There is no such thing as a false positive drug screen that is confirmed by GC/MS. Tampering with the test is avoided by the fact that the reference lab that you use for the confirmation doesn't know which drug you think the person's been using. They also don't know whose urine it is.
LabDude was correct in saying which drugs show positives on the screening test most often. It's been my experience that most presumptive positives fail to confirm when they're sent out for GC/MS.

[labdude]

labrat,

Your correct of course. I wasn't being very clear in my post about false positives. The "false positives" argument is often talked about, but I've never known anyone to get out of a positive drug test by using it.

[popokis5]

The home tests are pretty effective. I know someone who got a couple to see if he would pass his test. They are quick like pregnancy tests, you don't have to send them anywhere-but they cost about $25 a pop. Just pee and see.