Hue Heffner, living every man's dream.

[GrahamWellington]

Isn't it true?

What man wouldn't really just love to live in a mansion with hundreds of beautiful, sexy babes 24/7!

Of course he may be damned when he dies for having all that fun, don't know. But he sure is The Man in this world, no?

[Marley23]

I'd like to be perceived as more suave and laid more often by beautiful women, the way Heff is, but to be honest - and this is leaving aside the "objectifiction of women" issue, which is not a small one - his whole lifestyle seems like a self-parody. I'm sure he's got his hobbies and what have you, but it's hard to imagine living that way while having any real depth.

And "depth" is probably not a word I should use in this discussion.

[Odesio]

Having three "girlfriends" makes me wonder whether or not Hefner just keeps them around for show. I know they've got viagra these days but he is getting up there in age.

Marc

[Mr. Moto]

One of his recent "girlfriends" revealed not long ago that Hefner pretty much had his harem service each other, while he masturbated to gay porn.

To each his own, I suppose. But I have no interest in this lifestyle, myself.

[msmith537]

I'm sure he's got his hobbies and what have you, but it's hard to imagine living that way while having any real depth.

And "depth" is probably not a word I should use in this discussion.


Who cares? "Depth" is just something to impress women.

[Marley23]

Who cares? "Depth" is just something to impress women.
Ixnay, ixnay!

Seriously- not true. I don't mean "seeming "deep."" I mean having depth in your life. If it's actually true that all Heff needs is a bathrobe, a pipe, some jazz and a couple of bottle blondes, good for him. But I'd need more out of life than that.

[woodstockbirdybird]

Isn't it true?

What man wouldn't really just love to live in a mansion with hundreds of beautiful, sexy babes 24/7!

Of course he may be damned when he dies for having all that fun, don't know. But he sure is The Man in this world, no?

I guess I wouldn't mind living in a mansion, but even one functionally retarded silicone-enhanced "beauty" would be more than I could bear.

[tomndebb]

While I have never envied Mr. Hefner his lifestyle, (well, maybe a little bit while he was purportedly semi-monogamous with Ms. Benton in my youth), I do not see much of a debate, here, more a sharing of opinions.

Off to IMHO.

[Mangetout]

Ditto what woodstockbirdybird said. Also, I do wonder if it would take the shine off of life - to be able to have everything, in abundance, all the time means that nothing can be special anymore and that the pleasure of eager anticipation is gone. I'm not saying this out of sour grapes; I think it's a genuine flaw in the 'paradise' concept.

[Scissorjack]

Hue Hefner? A bit of a dark horse, that one, but not as black as he's been painted.

[pool]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Moto
One of his recent "girlfriends" revealed not long ago that Hefner pretty much had his harem service each other, while he masturbated to gay porn.


Uh...Cite?

[calm kiwi]

Why he can he not put clothes on? Even just once?

Lose the dressing gown Hugh!

I don't give a shit who he fucks or how often I just want him to get dressed.

[CalMeacham]

Hue Hefner has more wiomen than there are adams in the universe.

[drmark2000]

I recall a couple of documentaries a few years ago on Hefner and life at the Playboy Mansion. I think they were on A&E.

Hefner acknowledged that he has led a life that most men only dream of, and expressed a palpable sense of gratitude for this. He said he has had the opportunity to have sex with some of the most beautiful women in the world throughout most of his adult life. I suppose that if one’s idea of bliss were to explore and expand upon the principles of quantum physics, and having the means to do so, that is what they would do. Hefner wanted sex, went for it, and got it. He also worked his ass off (pun very much intended) to build his Playboy empire, with all of its attendant privileges.

As for the “depth“ of such a goal, Hefner is a VERY rich man, and has been for a long time. The very rich have a life such as Hefner’s (or some approximation of it) available to them, except that most of them would choose to have it behind the scenes. Hefner has done it relatively in the public eye, and has been unapologetic for it. I don’t think Hefner’s achievements have any more or less depth than those of a middle class guy who has amassed a huge collection of bottle caps, the envy of bottle cap collectors all over the world. This is not equate sex, or women, with bottle caps, but only to acknowledge the ultimate realization of a particular goal. It’s “depth” is relative to the individual, and ultimately only relevant to others.

Hefner also said that he does take Viagra, and does so to ensure that he can get “the good wood.” Whether or not he holds that wood in his hand and masturbates to gay porn (male or female, by the way?) or uses it on his many girlfriends, I don’t know. I would also appreciate a cite for this. Hefner acknowleged in a Playboy interview in the 90’s that there was a period in the 70’s when he experimented with bisexual sex. I believe it was David Bowie who said that he wasn’t a bisexual, but a “try-sexual,” as in try anything. Another opportunity available more easily to the very rich. They can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want, relative to those who aren’t very rich. In the words of Chief Dan George in the movie Little Big Man, “This is the way things are.”

I have been amazed at the paucity of negative information from the thousands of women Hefner has had relations with over the years. Most of them seem to recall him quite fondly, and he appears to have maintained ongoing communication with many of them. Of course, he is very rich. But so are Michael Jackson and Roman Polanski, and there is considerably less positive regard for them.

Finally, and I guess to be the first to say it outright in this thread, yeah, I would love Hefner’s life. Yep, I would really love it. Whether or not it would be a “deep“ or profoundly “meaningful“ life on earth I would have to decide for myself. But, damn, I’m sure I would enjoy it.

[Tomcat]

Hue Hefner has more wiomen than there are adams in the universe.

And a new SDMB secret handshake begins...

Per OP:

Sex, money, sex, friends, sex, cool home, sex, power, sex, influence, sex, strong family (his daughter is the CEO, right?), sex, security, etc...

Yeah, he is living uber-man's dream. Damn straight I would like to be able to have his choices in life. I might make different choices, but he has the option to make pretty much whatever decision he wants on pretty much whatever he wants.

He is free to do what he pleases, and that is what is probably keeping him so spry at 72(?). I only hope to be able to do the same.

He da man!

-Tcat

[Beware of Doug]

The hell with Hef. I would care more about Christie's (http://www.mellesleg.hu/cikkek/images/601-700/606/christie_hefner_big.jpg) sex life.

I always thought of her as the only woman in the world who will never ever EVER appear in a Playboy "pictorial."

[ShibbOleth]

Hue Hefner? A bit of a dark horse, that one, but not as black as he's been painted.

I like to think of Hue as Hugh's more colorful side.

[Larry Borgia]

He seems to be happy enough. I suppose it could be a facade and he's really weeping alone in a corner and lamenting the shallowness of his own life, but if so he's putting on a good front. In any event he's not hurting me, and, as a teen in the pre-internet seventies, playboy was the most accessable source of nudie pics. And a lot of the women he was involved with seem to look back on their association with Playboy fondly. You probably won't see that with a lot of other branches of adult entertainment.

As for whether I would like that lifestyle: No, for a number of reasons. I need depth in my companions. I would like the cash, but I'd probably spend it on other things, and I'd be way more private and probably monogamous. But it seems to be working out for Hef.

[Scissorjack]

I like to think of Hue as Hugh's more colorful side.

The black sheep, then?

{We's jest joshin', Graham. Don't ever use Spellcheck, mate}

[GrahamWellington]

Beware --

That's a GREAT pic! Yeah, I've always thought she was a babe, too.

[ShibbOleth]

The black sheep, then?



Sheep are Hal's, not Hue or Hugh's domain. Baaaaaaaaa-ack away from the sheep.

[Erinaceus europaeus]

Why he can he not put clothes on? Even just once?

Lose the dressing gown Hugh!

I don't give a shit who he fucks or how often I just want him to get dressed.

Damn, I wish I could get away with wearing pyjamas all the time. I don't care much for the typical playboy bunny, but to each his own. A mansion would be nice though. But not having to get dressed would be the best.

[JRDelirious]

My own impression is that yes, sure he's in a sort of self-parody mode, but hell, if I had founded THE Premier skin mag on Earth back in my mid-late 20s and parlayed it into a fortune, I would hope that by the time I'm eligible for Social Security I'd be in a position to just Shatner around without any shame or self-consciousness.

He probably was quite satisfied with all the "depth" he could get into by 1970 and has felt he can coast ever since.

And if I told you I don't envy him, I'd be a Low-down Lyin' Liar. Heck, there's even a major world religion's metaphor for the afterlife of the righteous that sounds damn close to being Hefner, and they came up with that 1400 years ago!!
I salute thee, Hef, the man who lives the dream :D

[BrainGlutton]

One of his recent "girlfriends" revealed not long ago that Hefner pretty much had his harem service each other, while he masturbated to gay porn.

!!! Hefner gay? Now that's overcompensation!

[BrainGlutton]

My own impression is that yes, sure he's in a sort of self-parody mode, but hell, if I had founded THE Premier skin mag on Earth back in my mid-late 20s and parlayed it into a fortune, I would hope that by the time I'm eligible for Social Security I'd be in a position to just Shatner around without any shame or self-consciousness.

Did you just coin that verb, or has it already been in circulation a while? :)

[Silentgoldfish]

Did you just coin that verb, or has it already been in circulation a while? :)

People have been verbing Shatner for yonks. Now that he's playing into it it's even more widespread :)

[BrainGlutton]

While I have never envied Mr. Hefner his lifestyle, (well, maybe a little bit while he was purportedly semi-monogamous with Ms. Benton in my youth), I do not see much of a debate, here, more a sharing of opinions.

Off to IMHO.

Actually, there is a debatable issue lurking in here: The value of hedonism. Is a life of mostly harmless sensual pleasure and luxury an essentially ignoble one, something that "lacks depth" no matter how you look at it? Or is it perhaps an example of at least one form of the "good life"? What would Plato or Aristotle have done with this, I wonder?

[Johnny L.A.]

!!! Hefner gay? Now that's overcompensation!
Mick Jagger walked in while Hugh Heffner was boffing Dennis Weaver in the arse. He yelled, 'Hey! Hugh! Get off of McCloud!'

[Girl Next Door]

Mick Jagger walked in while Hugh Heffner was boffing Dennis Weaver in the arse. He yelled, 'Hey! Hugh! Get off of McCloud!'

BWAH HA HA HA HA!

[Sublight]

I read some newspaper column whose author had received a Christmas card from the Hefners. The writer noted that not only was Hef dressed in pyjamas and bathrobe in the photo on the card (the rest of the family was dressed normally), he couldn't remember a time when Hef wasn't dressed that way.

Basically, the guy seems to live life as thought it were an endless Saturday. And honestly, that's what how I dream of living, even if the only bunny in my life is my wife.

[GrahamWellington]

Mick Jagger walked in while Hugh Heffner was boffing Dennis Weaver in the arse. He yelled, 'Hey! Hugh! Get off of McCloud!'

LOL! THAT'S TERRIFIC!!

It's stuff like this that makes me glad that I went a head and spent my hard-earned money to become a member of this place! Thanks!!!!!!!

[SnakesCatLady]

Mick Jagger walked in while Hugh Heffner was boffing Dennis Weaver in the arse. He yelled, 'Hey! Hugh! Get off of McCloud!'

Ok, damnit, there goes another keyboard!

[Johnny L.A.]

BWAH HA HA HA HA!
LOL! THAT'S TERRIFIC!!

It's stuff like this that makes me glad that I went a head and spent my hard-earned money to become a member of this place! Thanks!!!!!!!
Ok, damnit, there goes another keyboard!
Thank you! I'll be here all week! Be sure to tip the waitresses! Oh, and do try the roast beef.



Thanks to BrainGlutton the... erm... straight line. :D

[JRDelirious]

Actually, there is a debatable issue lurking in here: The value of hedonism. Is a life of mostly harmless sensual pleasure and luxury an essentially ignoble one, something that "lacks depth" no matter how you look at it? Or is it perhaps an example of at least one form of the "good life"? What would Plato or Aristotle have done with this, I wonder?

Well, considering that in the specific case of Hef the luxury -- by extension quite a lot of the sensual pleasure -- is the product of running a succesful (overall, with ups and downs along the time) and legal business enterprise that provided some entertainment and information value to others and included patronage of various worthy performers and writers (Dick Gregory always makes a point of thanking Hef) the pursuit of pleasure had positive effects.

[Mr. Moto]

Uh...Cite?

The claim was made by Sandy Bentley. She and Mandy Bentley, her twin sister, were in the, um, entourage for a time.

The original claim was made in Philadelphia magazine.

[Q.E.D.]

What man wouldn't really just love to live in a mansion with hundreds of beautiful, sexy babes 24/7!
Are you kidding me? With all those women in one place, either all their cycles are synchronized (in which case those 3-4 days each month are Man's Hell raised to the nth power) or you've always got a few dozen of 'em on the rag every. Single. Day. Either way, you're boned--and not in the GOOD way. :D

[furt]

Isn't it true?No.

I suspect he's a deeply unhappy person; I am quite certain I would be.

[GuanoLad]

My dream would have less silicone and more brain cells, but aside from that... there is a certain appeal to his lifestyle, enough at least for a temporary period of time. Say... three months every year.

[Scissorjack]

Mick Jagger walked in while Hugh Heffner was boffing Dennis Weaver in the arse. He yelled, 'Hey! Hugh! Get off of McCloud!'

That's nothing. Late in the 60's Marianne Faithful was at a fashionable party with a number of rock stars and actors. She went over to where Jim Morrison, Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger were sitting, and one by one unzipped their flies and sucked them off. She then moved over to David Bowie and Iggy Pop's corner, and fellated them. Just as she'd finished, Michael Caine walked in, saw what had just happened, and yelled:

"You were only supposed to blow the bloody Doors off!"

[betenoir]

Who cares? "Depth" is just something to impress women.

Which might be why you haven't found any women who are impressed with you.


(Sorry, just had to say it :)

[Johnny L.A.]

Case Sensitive: I love that film! :)

[vetbridge]

How the hell has Heff remained HIV negative????

[Contrapuntal]

Damn, I wish I could get away with wearing pyjamas all the time.Just do what I do. Wear your clothes to bed. Same thang.

[Zebra]

It's not quite everyman's dream.

For one, he seems to only like blondes now. I prefer a varitey.

But to make it complete, the Playboy Mansion would have to be in space.

[JRDelirious]

How the hell has Heff remained HIV negative????

:confused: why, by being careful, of course. You don't become HIV+ just from having lots of sex, y'know, there's got to be an actual exposure to the virus.


It seems that for a huge chunk of his Playboy career before marrying Kimberly Conrad in '88, HH, though not strictly monogamous, would often have one steady girlfriend at a given time, sometimes for years (Barbi Benton, Sandra Theodore, Carrie Leigh) and a relatively modest number of collateral flings; and when married by most reports he tried to maintain monogamy for at least a few years. With the turn of the century he retook the swinging lifestyle in force, and I bet it was because of what I mentioned earlier ("I've made my mark, time to kick back and let go"). Still, it's not like this is someone who'll just plug anyone that walks in off the street, we're talking a discriminating consumer who can pick and choose. Someone like him was probably extremely aware of any emergent risk factors all along, specially considering how in the early 80s, before HIV broke through, there was already concern over herpes and antibiotic-resistant clap.

[JRDelirious]

BTW, vetbridge didn't mean to sound condescending to YOU in that first sentence, you are a trained health professional (just different type of patients) after all, but you never know who else may be reading and to me it is just obvious. Just wanted to draw attention to that high activity means high potential risk, but still manageable risk.

[GrahamWellington]

No.

I suspect he's a deeply unhappy person; I am quite certain I would be.

You sound like you are.

[drmark2000]

Now, let’s not be too hard on old Hugh. He’s had enough experience to know what he likes. If it’s 6, 7, or 8, young blondes with big tits and small asses, then that’s what he likes.

There is no shame in being a hetero!

[Zoe]

Graham Wellington:

originally posted by furt:

No.

I suspect he's a deeply unhappy person; I am quite certain I would be.



You sound like you are.[/quote]

Graham, you are new here. Furt has been posting for a long time and many of us know him as someone well-centered and in touch with who he is.

You asked for opinions and he has given his. There are many people that would not be happy leading the lifestyle that Hugh Hefner appears to have lead. (Of course, no one knows the reality except Mr. Hefner.) That does not make them unhappy people.

I will try not to judge you for envying that lifestyle. Maybe you can extend the same courtesy to those male Dopers who would be unhappy to settle for that.

Most of the women I know would not settle for being treated like a "thing." Nor would they want a man who thought of them only as bunnies.

[BMalion]

I also, find him not living my dream. I cannot fathom (I almost said concieve :D ) having that many partners, ugh.

I guess I'm a one-woman man.

Love the bathrobe thing, though.

[msmith537]

Which might be why you haven't found any women who are impressed with you.


(Sorry, just had to say it :)


That's not what your [insert some woman you care about who isn't dead or suffering from some long term illness here] said last night. :D

(you basically asked for that one)


Ok..everyone quit screwing around. We are trying to have a serious discussion here.

What kind of "depth" are people looking for Hef to have? He may for all we know have a large number of close friends, including his various women. Personally, I would find being around women who are as vacuous as the Pets appear to be. At least when I wasn't having sex with them. Of course I would probably be having constant sex with them so I guess his lifestyle does kind of make sense.

[GrahamWellington]

You sound like you are.

Graham, you are new here. Furt has been posting for a long time and many of us know him as someone well-centered and in touch with who he is.

You asked for opinions and he has given his. There are many people that would not be happy leading the lifestyle that Hugh Hefner appears to have lead. (Of course, no one knows the reality except Mr. Hefner.) That does not make them unhappy people.

I will try not to judge you for envying that lifestyle. Maybe you can extend the same courtesy to those male Dopers who would be unhappy to settle for that.

Most of the women I know would not settle for being treated like a "thing." Nor would they want a man who thought of them only as bunnies.[/QUOTE]

I said only 5 harmless words to him. He's lucky to have a nice person like you on his side.

[kniz]

(well, maybe a little bit while he was purportedly semi-monogamous with Ms. Benton in my youth)IMHO.
Oh yes, Barbie was top drawer! ;) And she sure didn't use any wax