View Full Version : Art Installation Cleaned Up; thought to be Garbage
CalMeacham
04-07-2006, 07:10 AM
That's not a critic;s comment -- workmen honestly thought artist Leslie Rech's installation , "Hannah Dropped Her Basket", was garbage.
It took a bit of a search to find a picture:
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14265770.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news
Rech says it's the worst thing that's happened in her career. Organizers of the exhibit say they're discussing compensation with the artist.
( from http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0406artwork-trashed06-ON.html )
To be fair, the work had been tossed around by a storm before getting tossed out. I can't really blame the workers -- it's not really obvious, especially under those circumstances. And for the life of me I don't see how this relates to mental illness and homelessness.
Finagle
04-07-2006, 07:37 AM
Rech says it's the worst thing that's happened in her career. Organizers of the exhibit say they're discussing compensation with the artist
This is one of those sentences that could be greatly improved by putting quotes around both "career" and "artist". If the local cleanup committee picks up your work of art, you should probably take that as a hit with the clue bat.
OK, it was actually sort of an interesting piece of art. But if you're going to get the vapors about it and claim that it's the worst thing that ever happened to your career, then you should consider yourself unusually blessed.
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 08:16 AM
Had we known, we could have immortalized the work here:
http://www.museumofbadart.org/
Many an enriched hour has been spent perusing these galleries.
Jeep's Phoenix
04-07-2006, 08:24 AM
Eggshells and a dress are called a "sculpture"? I thought creating a sculpture required actual work.
FlyingRamenMonster
04-07-2006, 08:35 AM
Eh, it happens a lot with the conceptual stuff. There was some guy who collected bags of dirt from concentration camps around the world. They got thrown out. He threw a fit because it had to be that specific dirt. The cleaners said they were very sorry.
missbunny
04-07-2006, 08:49 AM
It looks like trash. Especially the eggshells - soon to be rotting eggshells - part. If there wasn't a sign explaining things, what did she expect was going to happen? It's trash-looking stuff in an alley.
MEBuckner
04-07-2006, 09:13 AM
You know, I never really thought about it, but being janitor at a modern art museum must be a pretty tough job.
"Aw, geeze, I did it again? Cripes, I'm sorry, boss."
Not to mention all the times some pile of garbage festers for weeks because the custodial staff thinks it might be part of the exhibit.
CalMeacham
04-07-2006, 09:25 AM
Just a note, by the way -- I wasn't trying to bash Modern Art here. I just found it amusing.
I note that this kind of thing doesn't just happen to recent, abstract, or conceptual pieces. I'm not sure how true the stiory is, but the fact that it's stil told shows that it's plausible. Supposedlty, Gaugin's painting "Breton Village Under Snow" was once sold, upside-down, as "Niagara Falls".
Here's the painting:
http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p32868180-k24-g4-~Breton+Village+Under+Snow-nover?sourceid=13
Here's the only on-line mention of the upside-down sale I could find. This doesn't encourage me about its truthfulness:
http://www.atomicpetals.com/archives/jowens.htm
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 09:33 AM
This is the WORST thing that has ever happened to her?
And she's an artist?
Bring on the garret--she needs to do some starving and some suffering.
:rolleyes:
(and this is the kind of narcissistic, pompous art that I can't stand. She used the eggs at a women's shelter? Did that shelter need a massive influx of baked goods right then?)
betenoir
04-07-2006, 09:54 AM
Well if it was in an alleyway...I don't see how she can complain. Why whould they expect it there....especiallly if it wasn't marked as such.
That said I have to protest the conceptual art bashing going on. Ok a lot of it is crap (I remember a particular Whitney Gallery Biannal....well I'd rather not). But so is a lot of "real" paintings etc. A lot of it is interesting....and makes you think about being human which is what (well one of the things) that art is for.
And some of it is funny which a lot of people seem to miss.
Oh and.....homemade dress? Sounds like work to me. And who's to say the homeless women didn't appreciate a few cakes....I would expect they did.
Anyway she does seem to be overreacting. And it's her own fault for not marking it.
But I stand by the rest of it.
Nancarrow
04-07-2006, 10:01 AM
Since early February, Rech had accumulated 300 eggshells for the work, a statement on homelessness and mental illness
Um... :dubious: :confused: I guess I just have a problem with metaphor. But it does bring this quotation to mind...
In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But in poetry, it's the exact opposite.
(Poetry, visual art... meh)
don't ask
04-07-2006, 10:06 AM
I had a similar experience with my masterpiece Man's Inhumaity To man (With Carrots) that I vomited in the carpark at Greasy Louie's after a night on the piss. I took friends to look at it the next day and it had been hosed away. Philistines.
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 10:20 AM
Well if it was in an alleyway...I don't see how she can complain. Why whould they expect it there....especiallly if it wasn't marked as such.
That said I have to protest the conceptual art bashing going on. Ok a lot of it is crap (I remember a particular Whitney Gallery Biannal....well I'd rather not). But so is a lot of "real" paintings etc. A lot of it is interesting....and makes you think about being human which is what (well one of the things) that art is for.
And some of it is funny which a lot of people seem to miss.
Oh and.....homemade dress? Sounds like work to me. And who's to say the homeless women didn't appreciate a few cakes....I would expect they did.
Anyway she does seem to be overreacting. And it's her own fault for not marking it.
But I stand by the rest of it.
I agree. I like conceptual art for the most part. This piece happened to be poorly executed. It didn't make a statement. It just made a mess. No one paused to consider it. No one pauses to consider the stack of dishes in my sink, either, with the exception of my husband. "Embittered housewife raging about the lack of cooperation in 21st century American households? Now THAT'S art. Christ...I better not wash them."
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 11:43 AM
I agree. I like conceptual art for the most part. This piece happened to be poorly executed. It didn't make a statement. It just made a mess. No one paused to consider it. No one pauses to consider the stack of dishes in my sink, either, with the exception of my husband. "Embittered housewife raging about the lack of cooperation in 21st century American households? Now THAT'S art. Christ...I better not wash them."
Yes! And I have here for your inspiration Dust Bunnies From Hell--a commentary on Women's Roles in the 21st century. I put Bunny ears on the dust bunnies, my statement on porn, exploitation and gender identity.
I'm expecting a call from the MOMA at any time..... :p
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 12:01 PM
Yes! And I have here for your inspiration Dust Bunnies From Hell--a commentary on Women's Roles in the 21st century. I put Bunny ears on the dust bunnies, my statement on porn, exploitation and gender identity.
I'm expecting a call from the MOMA at any time..... :p
I think we're on to something, sister. Say "So long!" to poverty and anonymity. We're goin' places.
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 12:08 PM
Right on!
Let's do a dual installation--you bring your dining room table clutter and I'll bring the duct tape.
Whee!
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 12:16 PM
Right on!
Let's do a dual installation--you bring your dining room table clutter and I'll bring the duct tape.
Whee!
We can start a movement! 21st Century Slackerists. Trailblazers Eleanorigby and Kalhoun lead a group of popular "minimalist" artists utilizing a "less is more" technique. Less housework, more recognition. I'm sure getting noticed around here!
Salem
04-07-2006, 12:25 PM
I'll reflect on your dust bunnies and raise you one "Breaking Down of the sociological divide between human and animal" - it's a simple exhibit, really. Best described to the unimaginative as "overflowing litterbox". I believe I hear Animal Rights Groups everywhere calling for copies to spread the word. I'm thinking of adding a scoop but I'm afraid that the symbolism will be lost.
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 12:38 PM
I'll reflect on your dust bunnies and raise you one "Breaking Down of the sociological divide between human and animal" - it's a simple exhibit, really. Best described to the unimaginative as "overflowing litterbox". I believe I hear Animal Rights Groups everywhere calling for copies to spread the word. I'm thinking of adding a scoop but I'm afraid that the symbolism will be lost.
That's beautiful. You're in!
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 12:46 PM
An artist's collective! Bloomsbury group will have nothing on us!
I can bring my "interface between the natural world and Western civilization" (aka as my overflowing garden trug). The gnats and mosquitos come free!
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 12:50 PM
An artist's collective! Bloomsbury group will have nothing on us!
I can bring my "interface between the natural world and Western civilization" (aka as my overflowing garden trug). The gnats and mosquitos come free!
Kinetic sculpture. That always goes over big with the "insiders".
Submitted for your perusal, Oppression of the Inner Man. The underwear represents the inner man. It being on the floor represents the oppression.
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 01:09 PM
I think that if you nailed the undies to the floor, that would be bolder, more extreme. And make the nail rusty--yeah, rusty as hell.
Ooh, this is so amazing! I feel so sympatico with the world right now--my soul is full.
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 01:26 PM
I think that if you nailed the undies to the floor, that would be bolder, more extreme. And make the nail rusty--yeah, rusty as hell.
Ooh, this is so amazing! I feel so sympatico with the world right now--my soul is full.
Nailed? I thought they came with their own adhesive.
The lack of nails represents sloth.
Cemetery Savior
04-07-2006, 03:30 PM
Am I the only person who believes that, as conceptual art, the artist was best-served by having the installation swept up by the garbagemen?
If you conceptualize it thusly:
"...this is a commentary on how society takes the homeless and throws them away like so many discarded dresses, eggshells and dreams..."
Heck...I might buy that interpretation!
-Cem
Yeticus Rex
04-07-2006, 03:39 PM
Had we known, we could have immortalized the work here:
http://www.museumofbadart.org/
Many an enriched hour has been spent perusing these galleries.
Thank you. :D
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 03:42 PM
Nailed? I thought they came with their own adhesive.
Ew.
See? tdn is right to correct me. It is not up to the viewer, the "consumer" of art to decide the merits of a piece--it is the sole responsibility of the Artiste to do so. If the lack of nails=sloth, so be it.
Here is my latest work: a completely blank piece of white paper. Don't think for a minute that it indicates lack of inspiration on my part. It IS the wasteland that is my inner life. It is the blankness of modern civilization, the homogenity of suburban existance.....
Shagnasty
04-07-2006, 04:10 PM
Here is my latest work: a completely blank piece of white paper. Don't think for a minute that it indicates lack of inspiration on my part. It IS the wasteland that is my inner life. It is the blankness of modern civilization, the homogenity of suburban existance.....
I want in. I am going to take empty American beer cans (Bub, Coors, Miller etc.), put them on a serving tray, crush them just a little, then PEE IN THEM, and set the tray out in the sun.
Oh, that's deep.
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 05:01 PM
I want in. I am going to take empty American beer cans (Bub, Coors, Miller etc.), put them on a serving tray, crush them just a little, then PEE IN THEM, and set the tray out in the sun.
Oh, that's deep.Dude, that's not "deep." That's Coors.
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 05:02 PM
I want in. I am going to take empty American beer cans (Bub, Coors, Miller etc.), put them on a serving tray, crush them just a little, then PEE IN THEM, and set the tray out in the sun.
Oh, that's deep.
Ooh....and untitled too--THAT always indicates something deep.
there are 4 of us now, a few more and we could do a human pyramid installation. Just think-white men on top, then white women, then black women then black men. We could have a gay Asian jump over us...or an Indian. We could make a video of it and edit to loop again and again and again.
We could call it, "Subordinated Debentures or The Peanut Gallery".
Scissorjack
04-07-2006, 05:04 PM
C'mon, it's not ART unless it has a title like "Modal Trangressions And Strategies Of Being: The Tension Between Being And Becoming": take my old beer-can with a soggy cigarette butt floating in the dregs.
It's trangressing the boundaries between modes of being: it was an ambiguous symbol of the post industrial Western paradigm, given that it simultaneously encapsulates, quite literally, the modal tension between both a mass-marketed corporate hegemony and the desire to escape from the same into an altered state of Being.
The butt floating at the bottom both reflects and questions this modern desire to transgress boundaries, strategies of being, into a state of The Other - Becoming, if you will - yet being constrained by that same Other being partially a chimerical construct, a response born of an paradoxically straightforward inversion, in its repudiation of the post-industrial paradigm: note that the butt, while embodying its own modal tension, is trapped itself within the space created by the modal tension of the can itself, suggesting the impossibility of being able to fully transgress, to move from Becoming to Being.
The temptation to create a classical triptych by trapping the can itself within yet another such modally transgressive representative space, the rubbish bin, is ever-present, yet that would be a little too neat: I prefer to let the viewer imagine the continuum of possible ever-expanding {or, conversely, diminishing} modally transgressive spaces inherent in the diptych.
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 05:10 PM
Thank you. :D
Please...don't thank me. Thank the talented men and women who dared to put a brush to canvas to capture their innermost feelings, and those insightful enough to recognize talent and compile their works into what is recognized as one of the most cutting edge collections ever exhibited on one website!
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 05:20 PM
C'mon, it's not ART unless it has a title like "Modal Trangressions And Strategies Of Being: The Tension Between Being And Becoming": take my old beer-can with a soggy cigarette butt floating in the dregs.
It's trangressing the boundaries between modes of being: it was an ambiguous symbol of the post industrial Western paradigm, given that it simultaneously encapsulates, quite literally, the modal tension between both a mass-marketed corporate hegemony and the desire to escape from the same into an altered state of Being.
The butt floating at the bottom both reflects and questions this modern desire to transgress boundaries, strategies of being, into a state of The Other - Becoming, if you will - yet being constrained by that same Other being partially a chimerical construct, a response born of an paradoxically straightforward inversion, in its repudiation of the post-industrial paradigm: note that the butt, while embodying its own modal tension, is trapped itself within the space created by the modal tension of the can itself, suggesting the impossibility of being able to fully transgress, to move from Becoming to Being.
The temptation to create a classical triptych by trapping the can itself within yet another such modally transgressive representative space, the rubbish bin, is ever-present, yet that would be a little too neat: I prefer to let the viewer imagine the continuum of possible ever-expanding {or, conversely, diminishing} modally transgressive spaces inherent in the diptych.
By god, I think we've found ourselves a spokesmodel! Fucking brilliant! (golf clap)
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 05:22 PM
I think I have a crush on Case Sensitive now.....
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 05:26 PM
I think I have a crush on Case Sensitive now.....
(The great ones always have tortured women dedicating their lives to Him so that His art may live...)
gotpasswords
04-07-2006, 05:31 PM
Rech says it's the worst thing that's happened in her career. Organizers of the exhibit say they're discussing compensation with the artist
Is she nuts? This is the BEST thing to happen to her career. As long as they spell your name right, free publicity and coverage in the news is the best sort!
If her work hadn't been swept up, would people from all ends of the country and even overseas be discussing it? She has the temerity to complain?
Scissorjack
04-07-2006, 05:39 PM
I think I have a crush on Case Sensitive now.....
Come to Dada...
Kalhoun
04-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Come to Dada...
This guy is one of us!
davenportavenger
04-07-2006, 06:04 PM
Here is my latest work: a completely blank piece of white paper. Don't think for a minute that it indicates lack of inspiration on my part. It IS the wasteland that is my inner life. It is the blankness of modern civilization, the homogenity of suburban existance.....It's been done. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rauschenberg)
eleanorigby
04-07-2006, 06:23 PM
It's been done. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rauschenberg)
Augh! My life's work! My dream, my vision! <staggers about the room, wailing and rending garments>
I know what I'll do. I'll sublimate my ambitions and talent to ensure that Case Sensitive (and what an appropriate name! It's meant, I tell you!) becomes the defining Artiste of Our Time.
Dada! Wait for me--I'll only be a Monet....
Scissorjack
04-08-2006, 03:45 AM
I know what I'll do. I'll sublimate my ambitions and talent to ensure that Case Sensitive (and what an appropriate name! It's meant, I tell you!) becomes the defining Artiste of Our Time.
Dada! Wait for me--I'll only be a Monet....
Don't Dali - there's no time Toulouse.
t-bonham@scc.net
04-08-2006, 04:38 AM
Signs don't always help!
Well, last summer in Minneapolis, a garden of authentic native prairie grasses & wildflowers in front of a YWCA & Public school was mowed down by city contractors, after a city inspector had issued a violation notice because the prairie garden exhibit exceeded the city height limit of 8" for lawns.
The garden had a large sign explaining the garden, including pictures & info about each of the native species. Employees did manage to stop the city workers before they knocked down the signs, however.
The Native Landscaper, who worked 3 years to develop the garden, hopes that some of it might grow back. But it was cut so short that many of the plants aren't expected to come back this year.
And, of course, the owner of the land had assessments added to his tax bill to pay for the city workers who mowed down this native prairie garden.
Scissorjack
04-08-2006, 06:43 AM
Well, last summer in Minneapolis, a garden of authentic native prairie grasses & wildflowers in front of a YWCA & Public school was mowed down by city contractors, after a city inspector had issued a violation notice because the prairie garden exhibit exceeded the city height limit of 8" for lawns.
My garden is a weed installation too, especially under the Camaro on blocks: I just need a catchy title for the grant application and I'll be farting through silk.
Kalhoun
04-08-2006, 07:03 AM
My garden is a weed installation too, especially under the Camaro on blocks: I just need a catchy title for the grant application and I'll be farting through silk.
"Growth and Abandon"
Scissorjack
04-08-2006, 04:08 PM
"Growth and Abandon"
Not bad, but I probably need to do something clever with colons, brackets and slashes: Re/Growth: {States Of} Abandonment looks sufficiently impressive, I think.
Scissorjack
04-08-2006, 05:11 PM
Not bad, but I probably need to do something clever with colons, brackets and slashes: Re/Growth: {States Of} Abandonment looks sufficiently impressive, I think.
On second thoughts, better work a pun in there too. Curators like puns. Re/Growth: {States Of} Wild Abandon
Augh! My life's work! My dream, my vision! <staggers about the room, wailing and rending garments>
Ooh, a performance piece!
Beware of Doug
04-08-2006, 06:29 PM
Had we known, we could have immortalized the work here:
http://www.museumofbadart.org/
Many an enriched hour has been spent perusing these galleries.Funny. I finished the whole thing in 20 minutes. In any case, it seems their primary collectiing rationale is "Found by Scott Wilson in trash."
Muffin
04-08-2006, 09:09 PM
Ooh, a performance piece!Conceptual artist leaves broken eggs in an alley. Performance artist cleans up the alley.
Cat Whisperer
04-09-2006, 12:20 AM
Ooh, can I be an artist, too? I have a mound of stuff in my living room that is waiting to be thrown out or given away to charity. I also have five or so garbage bags full of old shag carpet from my bedroom - I guess I should just keep those and display them (actually, I can display them in the alley. Until Tuesday morning.) I need some good, pretentious titles here - any ideas?
Scissorjack
04-09-2006, 06:06 AM
I need some good, pretentious titles here - any ideas?
"Yonic". Any form of receptacle can never be too Yonic. Filling bags with worn-out furry old carpets; well, you're challenging all sorts of phallogocentric paradigms right there by reclaiming a female space which has been historically invaded and usurped - carpet-bagged, if you will, a play of tropes neatly mirrored in the expert choice of materials in your mixed media - by conventional symbols of masculinity. For instance, sticking an inch-and-a-half of cigarette butt into a moist vaginal beer-can. You're transgressing this traditional {and, by your implication, worn-out} heterosexually male binary dialectic of 1/0 - phallus and vagina - and creating a new, yet inherently mutable transformative space which is nevertheless a mode of transition in itself: this could be conceptually expressed as 0/0, thus demonstrating that the rendition of the conventionally received dialectic, the binary opposition of One/Nil {expressing as it does the assumption that 1>0} is figuratively Null and Void. This could indeed be conceptually expressed as a formula: {0*0}>1, and I would thus suggest a title along the lines of Yonic {Carpet} Squared: Rug/Munchers
Kalhoun
04-09-2006, 07:30 AM
Not bad, but I probably need to do something clever with colons, brackets and slashes: Re/Growth: {States Of} Abandonment looks sufficiently impressive, I think.
You seriously need to consider a career change, my friend. You were born to this!
Kalhoun
04-09-2006, 07:32 AM
Funny. I finished the whole thing in 20 minutes. In any case, it seems their primary collectiing rationale is "Found by Scott Wilson in trash."
Um...yup. That's where they get most of 'em. However, if you made it through all the galleries in 20 minutes, you aren't looking hard enough.
ladybug
04-09-2006, 10:14 AM
I had a similar experience with my masterpiece Man's Inhumaity To man (With Carrots) that I vomited in the carpark at Greasy Louie's after a night on the piss. I took friends to look at it the next day and it had been hosed away. Philistines.
Am I the only one who thought this was hilarious? I'm still giggling over here. :D
jjimm
04-09-2006, 10:40 AM
My ex and her friend once turned up a bit worse-for-wear to the launch of an art show in a gallery in Hong Kong. Arriving in the venue, they saw some bouncy looking cushions in the corner, and thought it would be fun to sit on them. This they did.
Alas, the "cushions" turned out to be inflated garbage bags, which popped. The girls landed on the floor in a heap, and looked up to see about a dozen horrified faces looking down at them: it had been a concept art piece.
The shame was so great that they left immediately and never contacted the person who'd invited them again.
Cat Whisperer
04-09-2006, 12:28 PM
Am I the only one who thought this was hilarious? I'm still giggling over here. :D
Nope, you're not the only one. :D
Cat Whisperer
04-09-2006, 12:37 PM
"Yonic". Any form of receptacle can never be too Yonic. Filling bags with worn-out furry old carpets; well, you're challenging all sorts of phallogocentric paradigms right there by reclaiming a female space which has been historically invaded and usurped - carpet-bagged, if you will, a play of tropes neatly mirrored in the expert choice of materials in your mixed media - by conventional symbols of masculinity. <snip> I would thus suggest a title along the lines of Yonic {Carpet} Squared: Rug/Munchers
It's kind of scary how good you are at this, Case Sensitive.
Cat Whisperer
04-09-2006, 12:40 PM
Oh, I forgot - now do the mound of stuff in my living room waiting to be thrown out/given away!
How about the cat hair dust bunnies collecting in every corner of my house?
(It's not that I'm such a terrible housekeeper - we're renovating! Um, actually, most of it is because I'm a terrible housekeeper, but we are renovating, and that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
Scissorjack
04-09-2006, 03:30 PM
It's kind of scary how good you are at this, Case Sensitive.
You don't live with a crazy Art History lecturer for a couple of years without picking up a few tricks.
Clothahump
04-10-2006, 10:22 AM
That's not a critic;s comment -- workmen honestly thought artist Leslie Rech's installation , "Hannah Dropped Her Basket", was garbage.
The workmen were right.
eleanorigby
04-10-2006, 11:07 AM
You don't live with a crazy Art History lecturer for a couple of years without picking up a few tricks.
I sit in awe at the feet of the Master.
I could Rueben your back for you, Manet a time.
I have been away from the soul fulfilling manna that is this thread. I had to interface with the cog/wheel dichotomy for 48 hours. Having slaved for the Man, I am once again free to pursue my Quest of Expression and Meaning.
Case -how can we miniatiruize these pieces to sell in the gift shop? Heh.
Ooh! Speaking of miniaturizing, I would like my next piece to be Barbie's Garbage: Trangessions in the American Dream.
Just think of the wee bags of trash, dotted around her Dream House. Tiny cat hairs glued into corners, paper shreds, broken shoes, used bit of rubber to simulate condoms....Ken dead in the bath like what'shisname in that picture.
Sailboat
04-10-2006, 11:09 AM
That's not a critic;s comment -- workmen honestly thought artist Leslie Rech's installation , "Hannah Dropped Her Basket", was garbage.
The workmen were right.
Not entirely correct unless pronounced "garbaaaaazh".
Sailboat
Kalhoun
04-10-2006, 11:15 AM
Ooh! Speaking of miniaturizing, I would like my next piece to be Barbie's Garbage: Trangessions in the American Dream.
Just think of the wee bags of trash, dotted around her Dream House. Tiny cat hairs glued into corners, paper shreds, broken shoes, used bit of rubber to simulate condoms....Ken dead in the bath like what'shisname in that picture.
We need to set Heroin Chic Barbie in the Barbie-mobile, passed out and looking haggard. Maybe up against a tree or a guardrail. The American Dream crashes and burns.
eleanorigby
04-10-2006, 11:21 AM
Yes, and let's get a Minority Barbie to look all street and bad ass. MB won't be passed out etc--she'll be counting the money and looking smug.
And Skipper -we could apply makeup to Skipper to make her look like an orphaned waif, ala Kate Moss, but dirty.
Hmm--I wish I had done this with my Barbie's--all I did was make them have car crashes and throw them off the roof of our house (Ken falls faster than Barbie).
Kalhoun
04-10-2006, 11:53 AM
Yes, and let's get a Minority Barbie to look all street and bad ass. MB won't be passed out etc--she'll be counting the money and looking smug.
And Skipper -we could apply makeup to Skipper to make her look like an orphaned waif, ala Kate Moss, but dirty.
Hmm--I wish I had done this with my Barbie's--all I did was make them have car crashes and throw them off the roof of our house (Ken falls faster than Barbie).
Our Barbies were always promiscuous drama queens. They'd float on a shoebox lid for months waiting for Slacker Ken to save them. Then they'd get laid and move on to the next sweet-talking guy. Tramps...every last one.
Sternvogel
04-10-2006, 01:41 PM
Ken dead in the bath like what'shisname in that picture.
Did you have Jacques-Louis David's The Death of Marat (http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/d/david_j/3/301david.html) in mind?
The "cushion" story told by jjimm reminds me of my then seven-year-old brother's similar deconstructionist approach to a sculpture. Dad was a music teacher in a suburban school system, and took us to a Faculty Art Exhibit at which his art teacher colleagues from around the city were displaying their work. One of the pieces was a series of canvases lying like ramps on the floor. Mark asked a woman standing near the display if he could step on one of the inclined planes.
Woman: "Absolutely..."
(Mark steps on ramp, foot goes right through)
Woman: " ... not!
As the cliche goes, though, the damage had already been done. Dad had to compensate the teacher, as the piece had been for sale. Lesson I took from the experience: If you want to say an emphatic "No!", do just that, without preceding the denial with any adverbs.
Corner Case
04-10-2006, 03:58 PM
My respectful entry is inside this box. No, I'm sorry, you can't open the box; that would destroy the artwork inside. But believe me, you just can't imagine what's inside. I call it "Pandora Schrödinger's Cat's Left Foot".
eleanorigby
04-10-2006, 04:05 PM
Thank you, sternvogel.
I like the lidded box as well. How about an empty, open bag-signifying the endless yawning cavern of need?
Scissorjack
04-10-2006, 05:49 PM
Yes, and let's get a Minority Barbie to look all street and bad ass. MB won't be passed out etc--she'll be counting the money and looking smug.
And Skipper -we could apply makeup to Skipper to make her look like an orphaned waif, ala Kate Moss, but dirty.
Hmm--I wish I had done this with my Barbie's--all I did was make them have car crashes and throw them off the roof of our house (Ken falls faster than Barbie).
John Hiatt's song The Wreck Of the Barbie Ferrari (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/john-hiatt/74182.html) would make a great installation theme. eleanorigby, have you considered adding vagina dentata to your endless yawning cavern of need? They always bring in the punters: a title like Sweet Tooth Goes Down Well would, well, go down well.
Cartooniverse
04-10-2006, 07:29 PM
This is the WORST thing that has ever happened to her?
And she's an artist?
Bring on the garret--she needs to do some starving and some suffering.
:rolleyes:
(and this is the kind of narcissistic, pompous art that I can't stand. She used the eggs at a women's shelter? Did that shelter need a massive influx of baked goods right then?)
Heeeee. I couldn't believe some of the installations when I attended School of Visual Arts in the early 1980's. Lawdy me. Yes, elanorigby, they did need a massive influx. The headlines were positively scandalous :
Gluten-Free Homeless die of sudden wheat poisoning from artist's donated cakes
:D
Now, I have to admit, I am a huge fan of installation art. I always have been. Growing up in Philly and going to see the Claus Oldenberg exhibition at the Phila. Museum of Art just slayed me. Whether or not one considers this woman's installation to be art or not, they should have labelled it AND cordoned off that part of the alley until the show opened.
One does wonder how much money she would be compensated for the destroyed work...........
As for how to miniaturize the work for sale in tchotchka shoppes? Use tiny plastic eggs, Elmer's glue for the spattered whites, a Barbie Doll Dress and come up with an edgy slightly inappropriate title for the miniaturized work.
Something like-
EggShellDollSlut
or
Hem and Haww
pr
The Innate Calcification Of Emily
or
Composte in Taupe.
Whichever works. :)
Cartooniverse
Cartooniverse
04-10-2006, 07:32 PM
How about an empty, open bag-signifying the endless yawning cavern of need?
Sharon Stone could star in the film version.
--rimshot--
What ??? :cool:
eleanorigby
04-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Sharon Stone could star in the film version.
--rimshot--
Only if we include the vagina dentata
--drumbeat--
:D
Cat Whisperer
04-10-2006, 07:43 PM
Okay, now you guys are just getting weird.
And I have to say, I like the idea of signing my posts with "Sailboat."
Sailboat.
Scissorjack
04-10-2006, 07:50 PM
Only if we include the vagina dentata
"...what a wonderful phrase..." {apologies to Guin, from whom I stole that joke}
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