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Electronic Chaos
04-28-2006, 01:23 AM
Have I uncovered a conspiracy? Or has Splenda (and probably the other artificial sweetener manufacturers) found a loophole in the Nutricion Facts guide?

Here's the facts:

-The nutrition facts (http://splenda.com/images/splenda/products/granular_nutrition.jpg) on a box of Splenda reads 0 carbs, 0 calories
-The ingredients list on a box of Splenda only lists maltodextrin and sucralose
-Sucralose is 600 times sweeter than sugar, and so has to be diluted with a filler (maltodextrin, I'd assume) at a ratio of roughly 600:1 (maybe less, since maltodextrin is midly sweet itself).
-100 grams of maltodextrin contains 94 grams Carbohydrates, and 368 Calories (http://www.cptips.com/gelown.htm).

So what gives? Splenda (and I think most other sweeteners) contain copious amounts of maltodextrin, which has a respectibal amount of Calories, yet they claim it has none. I'm not trying to be a nutty conspiracy theorist, but it's kinda making me wonder.

Rick
04-28-2006, 01:41 AM
No you haven't.
From splenda's website's FAQ Like many no and low calorie sweeteners, each serving of SPLENDAŽ No Calorie Sweetener contains a very small amount of common food ingredients, e.g., dextrose and/or maltodextrin, for volume. Because the amount of these ingredients is so small, SPLENDAŽ No Calorie Sweetener still has an insignificant calorie value per serving and meets FDA's standards for "no calorie" sweeteners.
Now looking at your second link 1 serving of Splenda is 0.5 grams. Using your numbers of 94 grams of carbs for 100 grams of maltodextrin, one half of a gram of pure maltodextrin contains .47grams of carbs. Look close at second link it says "Total carb. less than 1 gram 0%
Sounds like a true statement to me.

Electronic Chaos
04-28-2006, 01:57 AM
No you haven't.
From splenda's website's FAQ
Now looking at your second link 1 serving of Splenda is 0.5 grams. Using your numbers of 94 grams of carbs for 100 grams of maltodextrin, one half of a gram of pure maltodextrin contains .47grams of carbs. Look close at second link it says "Total carb. less than 1 gram 0%
Sounds like a true statement to me.

But there's still the matter of calories. I suppose the amount of actual calories are fairly small, but it's still not 0 as the nutrition facts claim.

*scribbles numbers out* Okay, so it's about 2 Calories per .5 grams, versus about 15 Calories in the same amount of sugar. Still alot less than sugar, but if you're baking with the stuff, as opposed to just putting it in your coffee, you're gonna come out with alot more than 0 Calories.

I can see why they can label it as having no Calories, but it still seems just a little deceptive.

Go You Big Red Fire Engine
04-28-2006, 07:14 AM
You've got nothing on these (http://www.truthaboutsplenda.com/) guys.

groman
04-28-2006, 07:47 AM
You've got nothing on these (http://www.truthaboutsplenda.com/) guys.

"Splenda is an artificial sweetener made from a chemical compound that includes chlorine. Splenda is not natural."

A chemical compound that includes chlorine. Like, y'know, table salt and stuff, but scarier.

Szlater
04-28-2006, 09:07 AM
You've got nothing on these (http://www.truthaboutsplenda.com/) guys.

This website is part of an effort to educate consumers about the chemical artificial sweetener Splenda and is provided by The Sugar Association, which represents sugar beet and sugar cane farmers across America.

Is the Sugar Association THAT concerned about Splenda?

Rick
04-28-2006, 09:27 AM
But there's still the matter of calories. I suppose the amount of actual calories are fairly small, but it's still not 0 as the nutrition facts claim.

*scribbles numbers out* Okay, so it's about 2 Calories per .5 grams, versus about 15 Calories in the same amount of sugar. Still alot less than sugar, but if you're baking with the stuff, as opposed to just putting it in your coffee, you're gonna come out with alot more than 0 Calories.

I can see why they can label it as having no Calories, but it still seems just a little deceptive.
You are doing the math for pure maltodextrin. Splenda is not pure maltodextrin. Rather maltodextrin is used as a filler. I do not know the percentage of maltodextrin in a serving of Splenda. I would how ever guess that the total caloric value of a serving of Splenda is low enough that it meets the government guidelines
SPLENDAŽ No Calorie Sweetener still has an insignificant calorie value per serving and meets FDA's standards for "no calorie" sweeteners.
The question is just how low does the caloric value have to be before a product maker can label it as 0 calories?

FilmGeek
04-28-2006, 09:46 AM
Anything that has less than 5 calories per serving can be labeled 0 calories.

Smeghead
04-28-2006, 02:34 PM
You are doing the math for pure maltodextrin. Splenda is not pure maltodextrin. Rather maltodextrin is used as a filler. I do not know the percentage of maltodextrin in a serving of Splenda.
The OP appears to be working with the assumption that since Splenda is 600 times sweeter than sugar, that it's mixed at a raito of 599 parts maltodextrin to 1 part Splenda, which is, I think, where the confusion is coming from. I'd be willing to bet quite a lot that that ratio is way off.

chaoticbear
04-28-2006, 05:12 PM
"Splenda is an artificial sweetener made from a chemical compound that includes chlorine. Splenda is not natural."

A chemical compound that includes chlorine. Like, y'know, table salt and stuff, but scarier.

They keep bringing that up on that site... do most Americans really think of chlorine as a terrible atom?

xbuckeye
04-28-2006, 05:17 PM
There's a whole list of rounding rules published by the federal government with regards to food labelling. You get to round trans fat to 0g if it is 0.499g per serving. You would be horrified to know that many many many foods contain 0.4xx grams of trans fat per serving.

Boring Federal Law (http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/FCF101.html)
Scroll down about 100 pages.

Electronic Chaos
04-28-2006, 10:35 PM
They keep bringing that up on that site... do most Americans really think of chlorine as a terrible atom?

Well, with bleach, CFCs, PCBs, and I'm sure a handful of other things containing chlorine, I'm pretty sure most people don't like it when you tell them they're ingesting it. Not that I care, as long as nobody's dying drinking diet soda.

aruvqan
04-28-2006, 10:40 PM
The OP appears to be working with the assumption that since Splenda is 600 times sweeter than sugar, that it's mixed at a raito of 599 parts maltodextrin to 1 part Splenda, which is, I think, where the confusion is coming from. I'd be willing to bet quite a lot that that ratio is way off.

Oddly enough, I found myself in possession of 100% pure lab grade liquid splenda, and one drop/minim/.05mL was the perfect amount of sweetening for my 24 oz cup of coffee with cream, which would normally take 5 packets of splenda. Back when I could get liquid splenda made for the consumer market by a company in Brazil [which the FDA refused to let naturesflavors.com import into the US because of a labeling issue] it would take 15 drops to get the same sweetening power - so with liquid splenda there wasn't a lot of dillution going on there. I will admit that I have never seen undilute lab grade splenda in powdered form before.

Stark Raven Mad
04-29-2006, 12:07 PM
Oddly enough, I found myself in possession of 100% pure lab grade liquid splenda, and one drop/minim/.05mL was the perfect amount of sweetening for my 24 oz cup of coffee with cream, which would normally take 5 packets of splenda.

Would I be breaking any board rules if I asked where I can get me some of that?

aruvqan
04-29-2006, 07:26 PM
Would I be breaking any board rules if I asked where I can get me some of that?

It isnt illegal, though normally only sold or provided to food service professionals. I used to work for US Foodservice, and at one point in time I was chatting with the rep from McNiel at a meeting and asked about liquid splenda. Next thing I knew - about a week later a 16 oz bottle appeared in my mail bin at work.

I *really* miss being able to get it from Naturesflavors. Now they have gone to sunnyK [acetaK] and it sucks donkey dick. AceK to me tastes like liquid vinyl. If I want to taste vinyl Ill lick a car seat. I would love to be able to get liquid splenda again *sigh*