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wolf_meister
05-16-2006, 10:09 PM
Some folks say that I promote my website too much on this message board. (Fine if you feel that way, pit me for it).
Anyway, what happened to me recently warrants my mentioning it.

Here's a page from my website:
http://www.1728.com/pytproof.htm

Here's a page from a "freewebs" site:
http://www.freewebs.com/jaclynandalexis/proof3.htm

I sent an E-Mail to their abuse department about the outright plagiarism and the 3 "hotlinked" graphics they are using. (and I used the specific URL's that are listed in this posting).

Their E-Mail reply stated that:

We could not find the content you specified. Please contact us with more specific information about the content and the location of the content so that we can better assist you.

Oh and I sure did send those freewebs folks a reply. Among other things I said that although both sites use Comic Sans fonts, the offending site uses a slightly larger font size and different color and so it is "easy" to see how they could have overlooked this. :rolleyes:

What dumbfucks !!!

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!! :mad:

(I think my keepers are bringing my medication once again.)

Squink
05-16-2006, 10:16 PM
Here's a page from my website:
http://www.1728.com/pytproof.htm

Here's a page from a "freewebs" site:
http://www.freewebs.com/jaclynandalexis/proof3.htmYour page lacks an Ozzie background midi.
How do you expect us to learn any Geometry
Without an Ozzie background midi?

Homebrew
05-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Your page lacks an Ozzie background midi.
How do you expect us to learn any Geometry
Without an Ozzie background midi?
And butterflies. Don't forget the butterflies.

peri
05-16-2006, 10:38 PM
But their site has pretty flowers and fluttering butterflies and everything. How can you say they're stealing your content when anyone can see it's so different?

yBeayf
05-16-2006, 10:41 PM
the 3 "hotlinked" graphics they are using.
This is why goatse.cx was invented.

wolf_meister
05-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Thanks for all those helpful replies.
Geez ............... the butterflies :smack: .............. and of course - when you think of Euclid you immediately think of the Ozzie background midi. :smack:

Wow, I owe those freewebs employees a serious heartfelt apology. :rolleyes:

Denis
05-16-2006, 11:02 PM
Well, I bookmarked your site.

Because the midi "Crazy Train" sounds cheesy.

Derleth
05-16-2006, 11:15 PM
This is a copyright violation and could be pursued in court. More to the point, it could be the grounds for sending them a letter mentioning the fact that we have copyright laws in this country and a legal system to make sure they are obeyed. For extra credit, send the letter on a law office's stationary, complete with letterhead.

On the bright side, your page is better designed than that of the plagarist.

Lynn Bodoni
05-16-2006, 11:19 PM
But their site has pretty flowers and fluttering butterflies and everything. How can you say they're stealing your content when anyone can see it's so different? Ya know, I like butterflies. I have butterfly rubber stamps, paper punches, stickers, and note paper. However, there's a time and a place for butterflies, and websites about math proofs are not such places!

Excalibre
05-16-2006, 11:55 PM
Change the names of your graphics, and in place of the old files put copies of frightening pornography. That's considered the proper approach to dealing with such bandwidth theft. Miss Manners wrote about it last week.

Walter Windchill
05-17-2006, 12:05 AM
Come on, the second link is much better. I mean, the first one didn't make me laugh at all, but the revised version was hilarious.

slaphead
05-17-2006, 06:35 AM
Change the names of your graphics, and in place of the old files put copies of frightening pornography. That's considered the proper approach to dealing with such bandwidth theft. Miss Manners wrote about it last week.
Well, it's certainly a good way of punishing the offenders, but it can be little rough on innocent web users. I remember browsing a thread on something relatively innocuous on fark, with a few funny graphics sprinkled in among the huorous lines of text when suddenly :eek: .

I'm a moderately broad-minded chap, but an animated gif of a homosexual three-way is still a long way into my 'bleach eyes AND brain' zone.

Hijacked the thread pretty spectacularly too...

Cheesesteak
05-17-2006, 07:05 AM
it can be little rough on innocent web users. Ok, replace the porn with a picture that says "freeweb supports plagiarism".

E-Sabbath
05-17-2006, 08:18 AM
Send 'em a takedown. Here's how to do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act

Walks you through the whole procedure, looks like.

Plynck
05-17-2006, 09:07 AM
...For extra credit, send the letter on a law office's stationery, complete with letterhead...Your answer to plagiarism is to respond with forgery? :dubious:

Snickers
05-17-2006, 09:24 AM
Obviously, your site needs butterflies. Man, the hell? And the cute mouse pointer zappers. Gah! I couldn't stand it.

Luck to you with these guys.

FlyingCowOfDoom
05-17-2006, 09:29 AM
Change the names of your graphics, and in place of the old files put copies of frightening pornography. That's considered the proper approach to dealing with such bandwidth theft. Miss Manners wrote about it last week.
I agree, but I'd change the graphics to say something like, "Freewebs sucks" rather than pornography.

--FCOD

D_Odds
05-17-2006, 09:42 AM
Your answer to plagiarism is to respond with forgery? :dubious:
I think you were whooshed. I read it as get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter, but it does take some reading between the lines. I'd probably have phrased it similarly, so if that's not what Derleth meant, I connected the wrong dots.

Zebra
05-17-2006, 09:46 AM
The rip off page is now unavailable.



All Hail the Power of the Dope!

wolf_meister
05-17-2006, 10:19 AM
Thanks Zebra
Yes the transgressors have now met their comeuppance !!!
No doubt they received "The Word" that the Power of the SDMB would slowly but inexorably crush them.
Plus my use of the word "disembowel" in my second E-Mail really helped get my point across. :D
Now the 1 true website page remains. Sadly, it is the "sans butterfly" webpage.
Let us pause a moment for those butterflies that have passed away from the land of cyberspace.

Okay enough of that crap. Let's get back to business?
Does .999........ really equal 1?
Is George W Bush the worst president ever?
When is Mars going to appear as big as the Full Moon? (It happens every year around late August I think).

But seriously folks, thanks for all your replies. This was a Pit thread that was loads of fun. Thanks all. :)

Bookkeeper
05-17-2006, 10:24 AM
Looks like Freeweb's taken the offending site down. The link in the OP now shows a "Site frozen" message.

Bippy the Beardless
05-17-2006, 10:43 AM
wolf_meister I looked at your site and have a question, where do you prove that grey b = black b and grey a = black a ?
ie that the four triangles surrounding the blue square are identical? Obviously they are as can be shown by summing the angles to 180 at each line and showing the triangles are all equi-angular and all have the same hypotinuse length and are therefore all identical. But you seem to be not giving that proof.

Plynck
05-17-2006, 12:22 PM
I think you were whooshed.I'll take your word for it. It sure didn't seem so at the time (well, that's the definition of "whoosh", isn't it?) and I'm not sure I see it now. But I would rather believe that than falsely ascribe base motives to a fellow Doper.

Therefore, I apologize if Derleth was offended (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371688). :D

Derleth
05-17-2006, 10:42 PM
There is a fine line between 'Derleth being facetious' and 'Derleth being wrong.' I don't think I crossed it in this thread, but my post was a bit... obscure.

My reasoning went like this: He's already emailed to no avail. Emails are pretty much worthless when it comes to making a statement anyway. Dropping money on postage might convince them that he isn't going away, and that he knows where they live. My 'for extra credit' jape was, in this situation, the nuclear option: Retaining the services of a lawyer, who would then be obliged to notify them of that fact using his own stationary bearing his official legal office letterhead. People shit their pants when they receive letters bearing official legal office letterhead, especially if they already have a brain down there taking up space.

It was my reminder that wolf_meister could have gone all the way on this, and that he'd have had a good chance of winning. (All victories subject to legal fees and any relevant taxes. Wringing damages out of some people is an exercise in trying to get blood from a rhinestone necklace. Void where cooler heads prevail.)