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SenorBeef
12-05-2006, 05:25 PM
Only 2 games this week.

I really don't have a good feeling about this. Isotopes has a good matchup across the board - doesn't face one decent defense.

Romo v NO - NO's defense can't stop him, and he's gonna need to score to keep up, so a 30+ point day is very possible.

Chad Johnson v Oak. Oh come on. Oakland's defense isn't THAT bad, and Cinci won't have to score a ton of points to win... that's the only positive.

Lee Evans v NYJ. Guy put up 40+ points the other week, has been getting a ton of passes, and is against a crappy defense.

Dunn v TB. Why is he only projected to get 11 points, I wonder? Productive runner, imploding defense.

Todd Heap v KC. Pretty standard.

Ahman Green v SF. Yeah, that vaunted SF run defense...


And as Isotopes has awesome matchups, I have pretty terrible ones:

Peyton Manning, Harrison, and Addai at Jax. I'm not positive I want to start any of them. In the dome in their earlier meeting, Manning put up 219 and 1 TD. That's not gonna cut it for me this week. Harrison had a decent day at 94 yards. Addai barely had anything, but he wasn't as big a part of the offense at that stage. Still, Jacksonville's D is good. Ugh.

I may start Jones-Drew instead of Addai, who had 135 combined yards and a TD in their first meeting.

I'm giving serious consideration to Vince Young v Hou or Jeff Garcia v Was instead of Peyton Manning. I'm paranoid that if I sit Manning for one game, he's gonna put up 35 points....

Vince Young has put up respectable fantasy numbers, and Hou is an ideal matchup. Garcia put up 300+ yards and 3 TDs last week - I know Was sucks in general, how's their pass defense?

TJ Houshmanzada v Oak - great, except that he didn't practice Monday, didn't say why.

Willie Parker at Cle. I actually don't like this matchup. In the last 2 weeks, Cleveland has held Rudi Johnson to 64 yards in a blowout, and Larry Johnson to 110 on 28 carries or so. Now holding an RB to 110 yards isn't usually considered an accomplishment, but holding LJ to 150 when he has plenty of carries is pretty good. The Cleveland run defense has been playing the best they've played in at least 2 years. I can't imagine not starting Willie, but I really don't like the matchup.

I feel like Braylon Edwards can have a big day. He put up 130 on the Steelers a few weeks ago. We're going to have backup Derrick Anderson starting. He looked good in relief, but who knows how he'll be. I think it's entirely possible Braylon Puts up 100/1 or better.

Maroney isn't much of an option with injury concern, and against Mia.

Stallworth is worth consideration - he had 100+ and a TD.

Overall, though, this sucks. Some of my worst matchups of the year against some of Isotopes' best. I'm going to be very annoyed if I end up losing in the first round, because I actually have pretty favorable matchup in the last 2 weeks.

SenorBeef
12-06-2006, 05:04 PM
Can I ask for opinions? I keep flip flopping. Or is that inappropriate?

Who would you start?

QB options:
Manning at Jax (career average vs Jax is 261 yards, 2 TD, .5 ints per game. His last 4 games have averaged 256 yards, 1.25 td, and 1.25 ints per game.
Jeff Garcia at Was (2 full starts this year have been 140/2/0 and 312/3/0)
Vince Young at Hou ( inconsistent numbers, but decent with rushing numbers.. and he's against Houton)
Trent Green vs Bal.

RB options (pick 2)
Parker vs Cle (Cleveland defense held Rudi Johnson to 64, Larry Johnson to 110 on 28 carries)
Addai at Jax (not much in their first meeting, but he's a bigger part of the offense now)
Deuce McAlister at Dallas (how's their rush defense?)
Maurice Jones-Drew vs Indy (had a big game last time, but not getting a ton of carries)
Maroney at Mia (seems like the worst option)

WR options (pick 2)
Houshmanzadeh vs Oak (best option, but missed practice on Monday for an undisclosed reason)
Harrison at Jax
Braylon Edwards at Pit (who put up 130/1 a few weeks ago against them and could do well again)
Donte Stallworth at Was (put up 100+/1 last week)

Jimmy Chitwood
12-06-2006, 08:15 PM
You should not be entertaining the idea of benching Manning or Harrison. Seriously. I would go:

Manning
Drew
Parker
Harrison
Houshmandzadeh

I originally was going to say Stallworth as the second receiver, but that would be getting cute. I guess that McAllister would be a bit of a safer play than Maurice Drew, but I figure they're both splitting touches, and the Saints will look to throw, while the Jags will want to pound it.

Keep in mind, however, that I've spent all season telling everyone how poorly I've been managing my personnel.

brianjedi
12-06-2006, 08:26 PM
I'm debating whether to start Rivers or Delhomme. Delhomme's got a bad thumb and has been mediocre all year, but Rivers is going up against Denver's defense and LT has been doing all the scoring for them anyway.

Ronnie Brown's still out, so I'm stuck with Corey Dillon as a second RB.

Ellis Dee
12-06-2006, 08:47 PM
I'm debating whether to start Rivers or Delhomme. Delhomme's got a bad thumb and has been mediocre all year, but Rivers is going up against Denver's defense and LT has been doing all the scoring for them anyway.Denver's defense has been lacking since somewhere around week 6. Also, the Giants boards linked to a NC cite (some local rag) that Delhomme's thumb injury is a torn ligament, not a sprain. Since it's his throwing hand, the posters are half expecting Weinke to get the start. (And with the Giants' tendency to transform backup QBs into probowlers, this is actually being received as bad news.)

Fair warning: I am dead last in 2 of the 3 fantasy leagues I'm in.

Kiros
12-07-2006, 12:12 AM
Manning
Drew
Parker
Harrison
Houshmandzadeh

What he said. Go with what brung ya, or something. As bad as you might feel if you lose because Manning only puts up 15-20 points and Young goes crazy on the Texans... you would feel a LOT worse if your first round draft pick put up 40 on your bench while VY went for 10 in your lineup. And the second scenario is probably more likely than the first.

Sometimes you just have to play the odds and try not to get screwed by luck TOO badly :)

SenorBeef
12-07-2006, 05:29 AM
FWIW, the projected scores of both Garcia and Young are marginally higher.

I think Garcia's got some fight left in him, and might open up a can of whoop-ass on Washington. In his brief stint in Cleveland, he's the best QB the Browns had since the return, even with his little girl arm.

I really want to give MJD a try, but...

His last 4 games in reverse order:

Mia. 5 carries, 46 yards, td.
Buf. 8 carries, 78 yards, td. 5 rec, 47 yards.
NYG. 9 carries, 45 yards, td. 2 rec, 16 yards.
Hou. 3 rush, 11 yards, td. 4 recs, 56 yards.

So even though he's been very productive on few carries and catches, they still haven't upped the number he's getting. I feel like MJD will do better than Addai against their respective opponent's defenses - but Addai may end up getting 20-25 carries to MJD's 5-10.

Last time against Indy, though, MJD had 13 rush for 103, and 4 recs for 32 yards and a td.

And McAlister is still in the running. Despite Bush having his big breakout game, McAlister actually had his most carries of the year (I think), 26. He had 20 the previous week. It seems like they're finally giving him more than 12 carries a game. How is Dallas' run defense?

SenorBeef
12-07-2006, 02:29 PM
Interesting. Yahoo updates the projected numbers pretty regularly, it looks like.

For the first time, I've dropped behind.

Playing the last seed is supposed to be a reward for doing well in the regular season, but as it stands, the last seed has the highest projected score out of all of us.

As it is, 2 teams are 20 points lower than the others, and yet each matchup is less than a point of projected difference. It could very well be 2 90 vs 70 matches, rather than the 90 vs 90, 70 vs 70 we've got going on now.

I know the world will taunt me if I end up losing today - my team would have outscored the remaining teams and won the championship, if only I didn't get knocked out by the 6th seed... :p

Oh, fantasy football, you test my loyalties. I need Willie Parker to have a big game tonight, but as a Cleveland fan, I want Willie Parker to be stopped in the backfield 22 times for -65 yards.

I guess I can settle on a happy middle. Cleveland wins 35-28, with Parker getting 4 TDs.

SenorBeef
12-07-2006, 02:34 PM
Oh, if anyone is curious, Taz's projected score is 111.92, and Chitwood's is 93.31.

That is, unless yahoo misplaced a decimal. It says Tomlinson is projected at 25.13 points, but they may mean 251.3

Kiros
12-07-2006, 04:24 PM
I was only projected at 70ish because Chester Taylor was downgraded to doubtful yesterday and they moved his projection to zero this morning, and I haven't switched it up yet.

On the one hand, I knew I was stocking backup RBs for a reason... on the other hand, I REALLY wish I could take advantage of Taylor @Det. Ah, well. Cedric Houston, please try not to suck too much.

Kiros
12-07-2006, 11:17 PM
ooooooohhhhhh Willie Parker... nice start for the Pancakes, that's for sure.

SenorBeef
12-08-2006, 08:14 AM
Willie Parker had a chance to set the single rushing game record, the way he was going.

And the reason he didn't? Because Cleveland stopped him? No... because Cleveland's offense was so pathetic, they were so far behind that they didn't need him on the field.

I'm not happy about it, but I'll take it.

By the way, the stud of a tight end Kellen Winslow is completely mismanaged in this retarded offensive scheme. You have a guy who can burn linebackers up the seam, open up the running game, pull safeties off the receivers - and what do you do with him? run nothing but 3 yard out routes. Like using a race horse to plow.

Petey
12-08-2006, 10:14 AM
You got your big start out of Parker. I have an uphill battle.

I'm toying with starting Marion Barber over Warrick Dunn. He's projected for more points. Or maybe I should bench Ahman Green.

Did I ever mention how I wish we could start 3 RBs?

SenorBeef
12-09-2006, 02:30 PM
You got your big start out of Parker. I have an uphill battle.


That's my big chance. I feel like for the rest of the lineup, you have a better chance of outscoring your projected score than I do.



I'm toying with starting Marion Barber over Warrick Dunn. He's projected for more points. Or maybe I should bench Ahman Green.



Go the safe route and bench both.



I'm still having a really hard decision deciding between Housh and Stallworth, and Addai, MJD, and McAlister.

SenorBeef
12-09-2006, 04:39 PM
High scores for last week:

Tazmanian Devils 119.86
Court Jesters 116.12
Exploding Pancakes 93.24
Last Place - Kiros 84.58

Pretty low scoring week overall. Surprising amount of people under 80.

The scores as of the end of the regular season:


*1. Tazmanian Devils 13-0 1450.76 1 -
*2. Chitwood's Penance 11-2 1227.28 2 -
*3. Exploding Pancakes 8-5 1125.58 5 +2
*4. Last Place - Kiros 7-6 1065.00 8 +4
*6. Isotopes 6-7 1047.30 12 +7
*5. The Gridbirds 7-6 1032.06 9 +3
7. Court Jesters 6-7 1013.22 4 -3
8. Holding Out For Bush 5-8 986.38 10 +2
11. Zone Blitz 4-9 980.98 6 -3
9. PurpleHelmedWarriors 5-8 917.66 11 +1
10. The Faceisburgers 5-8 847.40 7 -4
12. Og's Cowboys 1-12 688.22 3 -9





Order of list is in total points, descending. Number in front of the names is the place they finished officially in the league based on record (with points as a tie breaker), star for playoff team. On the right, first is their draft position, and second is their rank relative to where they drafted. For example, I drafted 5th, but finished 3rd, hence, +2.

SenorBeef
12-09-2006, 04:50 PM
I only had to move 2 people to resort that list, so the head to head matchup ended up sorting people in a way pretty similar to their overall points, which is good.

Zone Blitz got the biggest shaft, being 9th in points but 11th in record, but.. not a huge shaft.

PHW gets the honor of being the only team Og beat, although he came pretty close in a few others.

Congrats to Taz, you bastard, on obviously kicking all of us in the crotch.

I'm going to make up a trophy tailored to me: the highest ranked player who improved relative to his draft position = me! Yes, thank you, thank you.

Isotopes is the most well ranked compare to his draft position at +7. Og the worst, at -9.

5 of us had winning seasons, 7 of us losing. 9 within the 5-8 to 8-5 range.

The highest score achieved was 160.66 by Chitwood in week 9. Unfortunately, I had the honor of being his opponent. I put up a very respectable 105, and he crushed me.

The lowest score was 31.00, posted by Og in week 5, surprisingly with only his kicker not playing.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-09-2006, 07:24 PM
What makes you think overall finish should map to draft position?

SenorBeef
12-09-2006, 08:14 PM
Why not? Having the first pick is considered an advantage, right? Having the second too, not quite so much. And the third, but not quite so much. And so on.

It serpentines around to somewhat offset that, but there's no way having the 12th and 13th pick offsets the advantage of taking LT, LJ, etc.

If all things were equal, for an enlightened set of players, you'd expect it on average to finish in roughly the order of the draft, right?

I'm not saying it's anything conclusive, but it's an interesting stat to me. Drafting last and finishing first is more impressive to me than drafting first and finishing first - not saying that that's not impressive, just not as much as.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-09-2006, 11:12 PM
You're assuming an advantage, but I'm not sure it's warranted. If fantasy leagues were decided by draft slot every year I'd have quit by now. Obviously in hindsight taking LT with the first pick (for which you have to give credit, as that was by no means a gimme -- LT was a consensus #3 pick, not the guy everybody was desperate for) conferred a major advantage this year, but that's just a function of how he's performed, not an indictment of the draft scheme. The gamebreaker last year ended up being LJ, and he was a 10th-11th rounder.

First and second round tandems from our draft:

LT/Westbrook
LJ/McGahee
Alexander/Julius Jones
Barber/Bush
Manning/Harrison
Edge/TO
Fitzgerald/Boldin
Rudi Johnson/Holt
Ronnie Brown/Randy Moss
Portis/Cadillac
Steve Smith/Steven Jackson
Jordan/Chad Johnson

I don't see that those potential duos got weaker as the slot got lower, keeping in mind that every player picked in the second round was available in each of the spots below where he was taken -- so everybody in the league could have snapped up Jackson/Westbrook if they'd had a crystal ball.

All in all, I think you'd be hard pressed to demonstrate that any particular slot is universally better than any other. What it ends up coming down to is a lot of luck with regard to injuries and so forth and a little bit of taking advantage of the slot you're drafting from over the long haul of the draft.

As a couple of additional data points, I'm in two other non-keeper Yahoo leagues. The top four teams in those leagues drafted 6-4-1-10 and 10-5-6-9, respectively.

SenorBeef
12-10-2006, 07:18 AM
Fair enough. I just assumed it was generally thought of that drafting earlier was an advantage.

I'm not trying to rob you or Taz of your credit - you both have good teams all the way through and have managed them well, it's not as if I thought you placing 1 and 2 was automatic.

I guess it reinforced my assumption that the two most powerful players in our league by far were taken with the #1 and #2 pick - and the #3 pick, Alexander, being injured instead of a stud put the #3 drafting team in last place, suggesting that that first pick is crucial (plenty of other reasons he was 12th though, foremost was lack of participation).

In any case, I wasn't declaring the person who improved most from their draft slot the winner, or anything - I was just throwing it out there as extra information, which I personally found interesting so I thought I'd share.

SenorBeef
12-10-2006, 04:57 PM
If I did my math correctly, I just had a crazy good week.

I was struggling over the Addai/McAlister/MJD question. MJD just put up 36.1 points. Think I called that one right. And to think I was gonna start Addai, who got pounded.

Manning 16.53
Harrison 10.1
Parker 29.3
Housh 17.8
Winslow 1.9
MJD 36.1
Scobee 16
Minnesota 16

143.73

Isotopes still has some games to play, but he stands, as I compile these stats:

Romo 0 (not started)
Chad Johnson 10.1 (done)
Lee Evans 13.1 (halftime)
Marion Barber III 0 (not started)
Todd Heap 3.3 (done)
Ahman Green 9.9 (3rd quarter)
John Kasay 9 (done)
Tennessee 5 (done)

50.4

brianjedi
12-10-2006, 05:47 PM
I should have started the JAX defense.

That said, I've still got a good shot at this. Rivers still has some time left to pad his stats and Jackson, Wilkins and Muhammad will go tomorrow night, while Kiros only has Torry Holt left.

It's a 29 point gap right now, which is certainly doable.

SenorBeef
12-10-2006, 05:51 PM
They took out both my backs in the third quarter before they could put up insane numbers.

Willie Parker had 31 carries, so that was understandable, but they took MJD out for after 15 even thoug he was running at will :/ - understandable, given the game situation, but if they left him in there, he could've had 250+ and 3+ TDs.

If my backs would've played the whole game, they could've had 90 points between them.

SenorBeef
12-10-2006, 06:57 PM
Going into the Dallas game:

Chad Johnson 10.1
Lee Evans 15.1
Todd Heap 3.3
Ahman Green 15
John Kasay 9
Tennessee 5

57.5 with Romo and Marion Barber III still to play. Needs 86.23 points between them.

Things are looking good for me. I really thought I was gonna lose this week.

Kiros
12-10-2006, 07:03 PM
The Gridbirds - 50.46
Last Place - Kiros - 78.92

Exploding Pancakes - 143.82
Isotopes - 54.50

For the benefit of those without StatTracker.

In better news, I put up the highest single-week point total of the season in my money league this week. What? I had a first-round playoff bye, so I'm going to get destroyed by the LT team next week anyways? :smack:

I am cautiously optimistic that Holt + 28.5 will beat Muhammad, Jackson, and Wilkins... but it could really go either way at this point. It's a reason to watch Monday Night Football, that's for sure.

(Oh, and... as it turns out, I probably should have started Morris over Houston, but there's really no way I could have predicted that... what it really comes down to is those stupid bruised ribs on Chester Taylor - check out the MIN rushing stats this week. That's what was carrying me all season. Ouch.)

SenorBeef
12-11-2006, 07:30 AM
Nice to see a monday night game with 4 players and playoff implications. Drama!

In Taz and Chitwood's imaginary playoff game, Taz scored 79.6 and Chitwood scored 112.76.

It figures - one of the few (only?) weeks I can beat them both, and I didn't have to play either of them yet. When I'm actually matched up against them, I'll get 40 points :p

I was really worried about this week because Indy's offense is the core of my team, and not only have they mostly sucked lately, but Jax owns them. Fortunately, everyone but my indy offense stomped ass - and Harrison did a decent job.

Even my kicker and defense helped put up a great weekend, at 16 points each.

SenorBeef
12-11-2006, 02:01 PM
I haven't checked the numbers, but I've read that LT's 29 TDs are more TDs than the entire offense of 17 NFL teams. More than half the league.

OneCentStamp
12-11-2006, 03:14 PM
I haven't checked the numbers, but I've read that LT's 29 TDs are more TDs than the entire offense of 17 NFL teams. More than half the league.
I heard that on SportsCenter. Sickening.

SenorBeef
12-11-2006, 07:30 PM
Gridbirds is behind for tonight's game, but definitely still in the running. I could see Wilkins putting up 14. Then it would be Holt + 14 vs Muhammad and Jackson.

SenorBeef
12-11-2006, 07:33 PM
Did I mention that Peyton Manning sucks? Drew Brees has now passed him up, as a 10th round pick, in total points.

I mean, Manning has put up pretty decent numbers, but not Manning numbers. And he's been sucking it up the last few weeks. Except for Addai's huge day, I've been winning in spite of Indy's offense as often as because of them lately.

Sunday was pretty horrible. If Manning hit his receivers in the chest, they dropped it. If he didn't, he threw it 10 yards over their head. I've never seen the Colts offense so sloppy. Not even the '03 playoff game - when they just got their asses beat up severely, rather than just shot themselves in the foot.

So, now I've got to go against Drew Brees next week, against a horrible pass defense. Great. I can only hope that Ind vs Cinci is gonna be a crazy ass 45-38 shootout, which it very well could be.

Kiros
12-11-2006, 11:06 PM
Eight points. Phew! Garbage-time has never mattered so much.

On to receive the inevitable LT-induced pounding.

brianjedi
12-11-2006, 11:08 PM
Well, I got within striking distance, but I couldn't close the deal.

Next week's pairings:

Tazmanian Devils vs. Last Place - Kiros
Chitwood's Penance vs. Exploding Pancakes
The Gridbirds vs. Isotopes (5th place game)

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 08:48 AM
I think Chitwood, at 112.13, may have the highest projected score we've encountered all year. Great time to have a nice week, you bastard :/

It's all going to come down to the Monday night Ind/Cinci game. If that game sees Harrison and Housh getting a lot of action, I might stand a chance.

I think I might actually rather be playing Taz next week, but I dunno. LT has the record, but does he go for 40? :P

GO ISOTOPES! In the all important 5th place matchup. Steven Jackson vs Oak could get ugly though.

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 09:16 AM
Just cause I was curious myself, I'll post the individual and total score through the end of the year.

Week 14 scores:


pancakes 143.82
chitwood 122.76
bush 103.8
taz 96.60
kiros 92.42
court jesters 90.56
gridbirds 90.36
phw 80.78
isotopes 66.56
Zone Blitz 66.40
og 64.92
faceisburgers 56.92



End of season total scores + week 14 scores = total score:



Taz 1450.76 96.6 1547.36
Chitwood 1227.28 122.76 1350.04
Pancakes 1125.58 143.82 1269.40
Kiros 1065.00 92.42 1157.42
Gridbirds 1032.06 90.36 1122.42
Isotopes 1047.30 66.56 1113.86
Court Jesters 1013.22 90.56 1103.78
Bush 986.38 103.80 1090.18
Zone Blitz 980.98 66.40 1047.38
PHW 917.66 80.78 998.44
Faceisburgers 847.40 56.92 904.32
Og 688.22 64.92 753.14


Girdbirds overtaking Isotopes was the only change in order.

Kiros
12-12-2006, 11:01 AM
I have a chance this week, but not a huge one. Even ignoring what LT does or does do:

1) I need Rudi Johnson on Monday Night to do something like the JAX running backs did this past week against Indy;
2) I need Chester Taylor to be healthy enough to play and abuse the Jets weak rushing defense; and,
3) I need all of Bulger's TD passes to go to Torry Holt.

If that stuff happens, I should put up good enough numbers to at least have a chance.

Chitwood's really-high-projection is based a lot on Brees; you might hope that the Skins defense actually deigns to show up this weekend, and a lot of your problems will be instantly solved :)

D_Odds
12-12-2006, 11:07 AM
Just cause I was curious myself, I'll post the individual and total score through the end of the year.

Girdbirds overtaking Isotopes was the only change in order.True, but I (Court Jesters) would also have overtaken Isotopes, had I rejiggered my lineup like I would before a game. Specifically, Eli Manning would have been back in, having exorcised his demons the previous week.

brianjedi
12-12-2006, 01:08 PM
I have a chance this week, but not a huge one. Even ignoring what LT does or does do:

1) I need Rudi Johnson on Monday Night to do something like the JAX running backs did this past week against Indy;
2) I need Chester Taylor to be healthy enough to play and abuse the Jets weak rushing defense; and,
3) I need all of Bulger's TD passes to go to Torry Holt.

If that stuff happens, I should put up good enough numbers to at least have a chance.

Chitwood's really-high-projection is based a lot on Brees; you might hope that the Skins defense actually deigns to show up this weekend, and a lot of your problems will be instantly solved :)

Rudi Johnson against the Indy run defense? I'd say you can mark him down for 120 yards and two TDs in the first half.

Interesting note: even if I'd played Longwell and the JAX defense, I'd still have lost by less than a point this week.

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 01:17 PM
Kiros and I both need a crazy blowout Indy vs Cin monday night game.

It would be pretty screwed up if the championship with Me vs Kiros.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-12-2006, 01:26 PM
Don't worry about those projections, they're never right.

I'm still going to score 220 points, though.

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 02:15 PM
Are you gonna start Drew Brees?

Washington's pass defense sucks, but Brees won't have to pass for 800 yards to win the game. He didn't Sunday night either, but it was a bit of a showoff to Parcells too.

Whereas Palmer may be involved in a shootout where he's passing all game long.

Little friendly advice, though. Get Tim Rattay off the waiver wire. You know he's just gonna come in and tear it up for 8 TDs against that weak Chicago defense.

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 02:16 PM
Er, off the free agent list, not waiver wire.

And, of course, that advice also includes starting him next week.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-12-2006, 04:05 PM
I really need Brees to win me this matchup. I'm up against LJ in the playoffs in two other leagues, so it'll be an interesting balance to try to strike. Unfortunately for both of us, I have a feeling Johnson might be poised for a big'un.

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Normally I'd say there's no one I'd rather see him matched up against than San Diego, because Jamal Williams is the man, and their front 7 rocks, but he put up 132/2 (and 29 receiving) last time and I certainly would not want a repeat performance.

I need to score because of Manning this week, instead of in spite of him, to have a chance.

SenorBeef
12-12-2006, 04:58 PM
Kiros and I both need a crazy blowout Indy vs Cin monday night game.

Er, shootout.

Although I'd settle for a blowout if Manning throws 5 TDs.

SenorBeef
12-13-2006, 06:19 PM
Gridbirds and Isotopes, don't forget you're playing the 5th place game this week. Adjust your rosters, if necesary. First game starts tomorrow night.

So, what are your matchup considerations?

Manning and Harrison vs Cin. Despite Indy sucking it up lately, I have no choice here. I have to rely on these guys.

Housh vs Ind is a natural, too, since I'm hoping for it to be a shootout.

Not sure what to do with RB. Parker is at Carolina, who has a pretty respectable run defense IIRC. I told myself earlier in the year that I wasn't gonna bench him, but then he got pretty much completely shut down against Balitmore. Hmmm.

Addai seems like a good idea for starters - again, potential shootout, and Cin's run defense isn't great.

MJD might have a big week against Ten if Taylor doesn't get many carries because of his hamstring. I may have to sit Willie for him. What do you think?

McAlister vs a depleted NYG defense might be good. Or are they all healthy again?

And Maroney at Houston is a good matchup, but he may still be hurt.

I guess I'm looking probably at Manning, Harrison, Housh, Addai, Winslow, Scobee, Minessota, and either MJD, McAlister, or Willie Parker.

I can't see having a crazy week from all of my non-QB positions, so Manning, please stop sucking for 2 weeks.

brianjedi
12-13-2006, 09:26 PM
Gridbirds and Isotopes, don't forget you're playing the 5th place game this week. Adjust your rosters, if necesary. First game starts tomorrow night.

So, what are your matchup considerations?

Manning and Harrison vs Cin. Despite Indy sucking it up lately, I have no choice here. I have to rely on these guys.

Housh vs Ind is a natural, too, since I'm hoping for it to be a shootout.

Not sure what to do with RB. Parker is at Carolina, who has a pretty respectable run defense IIRC. I told myself earlier in the year that I wasn't gonna bench him, but then he got pretty much completely shut down against Balitmore. Hmmm.

Addai seems like a good idea for starters - again, potential shootout, and Cin's run defense isn't great.

MJD might have a big week against Ten if Taylor doesn't get many carries because of his hamstring. I may have to sit Willie for him. What do you think?

McAlister vs a depleted NYG defense might be good. Or are they all healthy again?

And Maroney at Houston is a good matchup, but he may still be hurt.

I guess I'm looking probably at Manning, Harrison, Housh, Addai, Winslow, Scobee, Minessota, and either MJD, McAlister, or Willie Parker.

I can't see having a crazy week from all of my non-QB positions, so Manning, please stop sucking for 2 weeks.

Dude, I posted the playoff matchups for this week right after MNF. I think I know that I'm playing.

Ronnie Brown's still out, so it's going to be Dillon and Jackson in the backfield.

At QB, I've got Rivers vs. KC and Roethlisberger vs. Carolina. Delhomme's probably still out.

At wideout, Burress is facing Philly, Muhammad has the Bucs at home and Henry is up against the Colts.

Tight end, it's either McMichael at Buffalo or Daniels at the Pats.

Defense: JAX at Tennessee, or the Seahawks versus the Squared Sevens.

Kicker: It's gonna be Wilkins.

Looks like my roster will be Rivers, Burress, Muhammad, Dillon, Jackson, McMichael, JAX and Wilkins.

SenorBeef
12-15-2006, 08:56 PM
Well, so far not good. Frank Gore has a 23.8 day which is not a good start.

Taz got 1.6 out of Antonio Bryant.

Don't forget there's a Saturday game, Atlanta vs Dallas, if you're playing anyone on those teams.

Kiros
12-15-2006, 10:36 PM
I like the 1.6 he got. That gives me the potential for the type of advantage in the WRs that could offset LT a bit. Chester Taylor got upgraded to probable today, so it looks like I get to start two stud RBs with great matchups. If I'm ever gonna have a chance at beating Taz, it's going to be this week.

I'm actually pretty scared of the defenses involved. Chicago has the potential to put up huge points against TB, while I don't really have any good options between what I have and the free agents out there. Damn our big-benched league for having everyone carry two defenses (and damn the Philly D for falling apart so spectacularly!).

Unnaturally psyched for a weekend where the Pats are playing the Texans and it's not even being broadcast in HD - active and somewhat optimistic in both of my main fantasy league playoffs will do that. Bring on Sunday!

SenorBeef
12-16-2006, 10:11 AM
Gah. Addai is hurt. Questionable. Missed practice Friday, but is "expected to play"

But even if he does, is he going to be slow? Is Rhodes going to get more carries?

I was counting on him to be my top RB this week. This is not looking good. Last week my RBs carried me to a crazy score, but this week, I don't know if my best RB will be better than his worst.

Which 2 would you start out of these options?

Addai (q) vs Cin
Jones-Drew at Ten
McAlister vs Was
Parker at Car
Maroney (q) vs Hou

Maroney seems like the least attractive option. Mysterious injury.. Bellichick would keep him on the injury list even if he wasn't going to play, and Dillon can do fine.

Parker at Car. Willie has mostly sucked away and against good run defenses. He's normally my main horse, but I'm not sure this is a good matchup.

Addai vs Cin. Seemed like a good option - wide option offenses, high scoring game, he'd get plenty of yards and maybe some scores. But now he's hurt, and they might run Rhodes a lot instead.

MJD at Ten. After his crazy week last week, and Taylor pulling a hamstring last week (but he's still expected to play), he might actually see plenty of carries this time around. I don't want to pass this up, so he's a probable starter.

McAlister vs Was. I haven't seen much of Washington, how's their run defense?

Kiros
12-16-2006, 11:57 AM
For what it's worth, I'm playing Parker and Jones-Drew in that situation even before any injury questions on Addai.

SenorBeef
12-16-2006, 12:11 PM
Parker stats:

Home:

7 games, 171 carries, 924 yards, 132 y/g, 5.4 avg, 8 td

Away:

6 games, 93 carries, 275 yards, 45.8 y/g, 3.0 avg, 2 TD

Yikes.

This is not looking good for me at all. I need Manning to Harrison all day long to have a chance at this.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-16-2006, 04:06 PM
This is like watching a Lou Holtz press conference.

SenorBeef
12-16-2006, 04:29 PM
I don't get the reference.

ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF ME SIR?

Jimmy Chitwood
12-16-2006, 04:49 PM
No no, Lou Holtz always built up his team's next opponent to be nigh unbeatable; even if his team was favored by 35 and the other team had no wins he'd be talking about how they had a really tough return game or something. Our next opponent is the best opponent, and all that.

SenorBeef
12-16-2006, 06:14 PM
Ah. I really mean it... and I meant it last week, I really thought I had a more than 50/50 chance of losing. You're projected way higher than me, and it doesn't help that the first guy to score put up significantly higher than projected scores. It's gonna be even harder when probably your third highest scorer puts up 23.

Note to Manning: Please stop sucking.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 10:28 AM
Washington and San Diego must call upon the spirit of Terrible Terry Tate to stop Drew Brees and Larry Johnson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q4jb-kXebQ

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 11:07 AM
Gonna go with Addai and Jones-Drew. Feel like I'm gonna regret it, and FWP and Deuce put up solid 15-20 point days... but the former two seem like the bigger home run threat, and that's what I'm gonna need.

Kiros
12-17-2006, 12:47 PM
McNair out early in the Ravens-Browns game with zero fantasy points... damn :(

brianjedi
12-17-2006, 02:24 PM
McNair out early in the Ravens-Browns game with zero fantasy points... damn :(

Meanwhile, the Tennessee defense has put up a 33 spot.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 04:07 PM
Little friendly advice, though. Get Tim Rattay off the waiver wire. You know he's just gonna come in and tear it up for 8 TDs against that weak Chicago defense.

Tim Rattay = 26.72 points, Drew Brees = 6.31

:)

Now, if LJ doesn't put up 40, and Peyton doesn't suck tomorrow, Drew Brees may have just kept my season alive.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 04:17 PM
The scores as they stand now

brees = 6.31
driver 7.7
gore 23.8
gould 9
walker 14.4 (2nd)

61.21

mjd 20.5
scobee 6
winslow 8.1
gb def 14

48.5

Left to play for me:

Manning
Harrison
Addai
Housh

Chitwood:

Walker (half)
LJ
Denver D



So, if LJ doesn't go completely nuts, and tomorrow's game is a shootout, it's looking pretty decent.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 04:21 PM
Btw if someone with stat tracker wants to post the scores before the sunday night game, I'd appreciate it. My stats aren't official, I just did them by hand, so they may be off a bit.

Kiros
12-17-2006, 04:26 PM
Will try to remember to post them before KC-SD starts.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 04:46 PM
Thanks. You're my hero.

The night games have some major playoff implications.

Willie Parker put up 19.2 on my bench. I hope Addai comes close to that, or I'll feel stupid.

brianjedi
12-17-2006, 06:21 PM
Following the afternoon games:

(1) Tazmanian Devils - 41.58
(4) Last Place-Kiros - 45.20

(2) Chitwood's Penance - 77.88
(3) Exploding Pancakes - 48.60

(5) The Gridbirds - 75.40
(6) Isotopes - 84.40

Kiros
12-17-2006, 06:25 PM
What he said. The lack of McNair (Boller put up 19ish pretty easily in relief) is gonna end up killing me - if I had that 20, I'd have decent prospects against any remotely normal LT performance. As it is, I need either him or Gates to get shut down pretty completely.

Was just a bad week for me... in my money league, which starts two QBs, I had Eli and Bulger carry me the entire year... and I got 12 points between the two, today. To add insult to injury, my only real chance THERE is a huge game from Gates, which would kill me in this league.

Ah well, I still have Rudi Johnson going in both, maybe he'll put up 50 or 60 for me tomorrow.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 07:00 PM
Sorry Kiros, that sucks :/

I thought it would be novel to have an underdog championship game.

Chitwood has more points than I'd have like to see from everyone except Brees. If SD can hold LJ to 20 points, I think I can make it.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 07:04 PM
Looking over the rosters, you're not out of it yet. Rudi might put up 30+ against the Colts, the way they've been playing. And Reggie Wayne should be golden.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-17-2006, 07:21 PM
Chitwood has more points than I'd have like to see from everyone except Brees. If SD can hold LJ to 20 points, I think I can make it.

It's in the bag. For you.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 07:29 PM
Have you seen the Indy offense lately? In no way is it in the bag.

I am feeling a lot more confident than I was saturday night, though.

I just hope the Addai over Parker thing doesn't come back to haunt me. I kept flip flopping back and forth. Eventually, when I had to go out to the bar, Addai was the pick.

Kiros
12-17-2006, 09:15 PM
Ahhh, that's the LT that we all know and despise.

I think I'm going to go play some Civ and pretend the second half isn't happening.

SenorBeef
12-17-2006, 11:54 PM
Does San Diego even need a quarterback? Just direct snap it to LT every play.

If I had a uterus, and he signed a 10 year contract with the Browns, I would have Jamal Williams' baby.

Kiros
12-18-2006, 12:09 AM
Well, getting 38 out of Rudi and Wayne wouldn't be the craziest thing that's happened this year, so this really isn't as bad as it looked like it'd be at halftime.

Tomorrow night, I am Rudi Johnson's biggest fan.

SenorBeef
12-18-2006, 12:22 AM
If you don't mind, I would like to have an updated score before I go to bed, and yahoo won't update until like 5am eastern. Not a big deal, though.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-18-2006, 12:31 AM
Me 87.18, you 48.60. In the bag.

SenorBeef
12-18-2006, 12:39 AM
Yeah, I think you're right. I was curious about the other games too, but I'll find out tomorrow.

I'm surprised that LJ was bottled up so well. A significant portion of his yards came from 1 run.

I would have to average less than 9.5 or so points per remaining player (Manning, Harrison, Addai, Houshmanzadeh) to lose.

Good game sir. Good luck snagging third.

Jimmy Chitwood
12-18-2006, 12:47 AM
Other scores:

Isotopes 84.40
The Gridbirds 75.28

Last Place - Kiros 45.20
Tazmanian Devils 82.68

Tazmanian Devil
12-18-2006, 05:26 AM
I'm not doing any type of victory dance yet. Not when I've seen Indy's run defense this season. Rudi may not be LT, but he's no slouch either, and Reggie Wayne is VERY capable of racking up points, so I'm more than slightly nervous about the outcome of this week's game. Good luck, Kiros.

SenorBeef
12-18-2006, 10:55 AM
Isotopes wins 5th place.

"It would be great to get win number eight!"

Well, sorry.

:)

I miscalculated Kellen Winslow's number by 2 points when looking down the list of league settings I saw fumble recovery as 2 points. He had one, but he's an offensive player, and I guess that's just a score for defenses. I figured it should probably apply to both - if a guy fumbles but recovers it himself, no loss (-2 for the fumble, +2 for the recovery) and if another player recovers it and saves the ball for his team, I don't see a problem with awarding him 2 points. No big deal at all though.

LaDainian only put up 32.4. He's slipping.

He came up one yard short of the 3 point 200 yard bonus. Some sort of jaw problem took him out of the game. It would be a shame if he sat out next week with.... um... a jaw.... OF DOOM.

It's a shame about McNair. Taz had a pretty bad week outside of his running backs. If McNair had put up about 20 points, it would be a very close game. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did, though.

I picked up the Green Bay defense off the free agent list, and since they scored 16 vs 6 for Minnesota, that looks pretty savvy, until you also see that I picked up
the St Louis defense and didn't start them, and they put up *24* against Oakland.

And just when I thought 24 would've been good, I see Tennesee put up 32 for Isotopes.

Mike Vick put up 37.08 points to Marc Bulger's 5.48. Ouch.

Tazmanian Devil
12-18-2006, 11:33 AM
Mike Vick put up 37.08 points to Marc Bulger's 5.48. Ouch.

Well, after Bulger carved up the vaunted Bears defense for 350 yards last week, I kinda figured he would do just as well against Jokeland. How was I to know he would decide to comparitively suck this week? As for LT, nothing short of kryptonite is going to slow him down. :)

SenorBeef
12-18-2006, 11:38 AM
Yeah, I'd have gone with Bulger too.

Drew Brees comparatively will hurt more, I think. No one expected him to put up only 6.5 points. I don't know what happened.

I think I would've started Carson palmer personally, but as it turns out, for the wrong reasons. I thought NO was going to quickly go up 21-3 or something and start running all day, meaning the Brees wouldn't have a really huge day, but most likely a very solid one in the 15-20 point range.

I thought (and am hoping) Carson Palmer will be involved in a wide open shootout, putting his ceiling much higher. Not that I'm saying starting Brees was a bad decision, not at all. But it'll end up feeling pretty crappy if Carson puts up 35 points tonight, I'd imagine.

Ellis Dee
12-18-2006, 06:03 PM
I miscalculated Kellen Winslow's number by 2 points when looking down the list of league settings I saw fumble recovery as 2 points. He had one, but he's an offensive player, and I guess that's just a score for defenses. I figured it should probably apply to both - if a guy fumbles but recovers it himself, no loss (-2 for the fumble, +2 for the recovery) and if another player recovers it and saves the ball for his team, I don't see a problem with awarding him 2 points. No big deal at all though.That's a great idea, but sadly yahoo doesn't support it.

SenorBeef
12-18-2006, 06:56 PM
It's go time.

Kiros
12-18-2006, 09:19 PM
FYI, the Pancakes just picked up the critical mass they needed to end Chitwood's title bid. Which means, I guess, that Peyton, you can start passing to Reggie now instead of Marvin.

('cause I'm still down by 22... but still plenty of time! Come on Rudi! More! MORE!)

Kiros
12-18-2006, 10:45 PM
Well, the bad news is that I came up seven-and-change points short, despite the best efforts of my Monday Night Guys. If Cinci hadn't fallen so far behind so early I might have had a chance... but with Rudi basically a non-factor for the last third of the game, it wasn't gonna happen. So SenorBeef gets to overanalyze his roster as he stares down the LT Experience.

In better news... I just had the most ridiculous finish ever in my money league. Midway through the 4th quarter, I was down 3.75 points. I had Rudi Johnson and Vinatieri going tonight, my opponent had Chad Johnson. The winner makes the championship game, with the guaranteed money for second place. FGs in this league are worth 3 points up to 39 yards, and 4 points from 40-49. I was screaming for the Colts to not get close enough that it would be too short... and Vinatieri kicks the 44 yarder and puts me up by 0.25 points. Of course, there are still five plus minutes left at this point, and neither Adam nor Rudi are gonna score any more... half point per reception... so any catch from CJ over the last two drives sinks me. That was the longest five minutes of game time ever. I almost died when it looked like he caught the seam pass on the last drive... and my heart jumped when I saw it was incomplete. So now, pending any scoring changes, I have a grudge matchup with one of my best friends for the Big Money next week (we split two meetings in the regular season).

So I can deal with the loss in this league, I guess is what I'm saying. It was a good night anyways, and I can get mad at McNair later :D

SenorBeef
12-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Well, there's the quarterback I drafted #5 overall.

How nice of my second round pick to show up also. Manning to Harrison is feast or famine.

I've been absolutely on fire this year. My lower score is 124.28, which would've won any game so far. I can only hope that continues one more week.

It's a bit intimidating staring down the other guy who has won 14 straight. After what SD did to Larry Johnson, I wish the SD offense was playing the SD defense this week. But Seattle just gave up 23 to Frank Gore, so I guess I have to be happy if they keep Tomlinson under 100 or so.

This week had 58.1 points out of his running backs, and 24.58 out of everyone else.

I'm just going to need to keep my team performing as they have been.

I blew the call on Addai vs Willie Parker, but fortunately it wasn't close to mattering.

SenorBeef
12-20-2006, 05:26 AM
So SenorBeef gets to overanalyze his roster as he stares down the LT Experience.


Let's begin.

Do I start that bum Manning, or do I try to hop on the Tim Rattay Gravy Train?

Well, Manning and Harrison are clearly locks. They almost got me the win single-handedly last week. And they're against Hou. I can only hope that they don't show mercy when they're up by 20, and just keep scoring.

Housh definitely seems like the strongest second WR, against Den. With Bailey covering Johnson, he might get a lot of looks.

With Derrick Anderson looking like he might have some real QB in him (by the way, Kiros, I would start him if I were you), Braylon Edwards could have a big day against a weak tampa D. He's put up decent numbers in the last few weeks, scoring in each of the last 3 games.

Maurice-Jones Drew has been nuts. He might be the most efficient player in the league, in that he only gets 5-15 touches a game, yet consistently manages to put up good scores. Fred Taylor might be out this weekend, leaving him pretty much a no brainer. I don't in general like starting people against the NE D.... how have they been against the run lately?

Addai, who knows. He was hurt last week, and then he rolled his ankle this week, but he's expected to play. He didn't do much against a weak Cinci run D, but it wasn't really his fault. Do I start him against a crappy defense in case the Colts run out the clock? I don't know. If he was 100% healthy, the decision would be more clear.

Willie Parker. vs Bal. Oh Willie, I wish you could be more consistent, I don't know what to do with you. Baltimore held him to almost nothing in their first matchup, but he's at home now, where he tends to shine. Do I go with the big points at home, or stay away from the tough matchup? I honestly don't know.

McAlister at NYG. McAlister has averaged about 20 carries per game over the last few games, much better than earlier. He hasn't had a spectacular game, though - but he's been pretty solid. How's NYG's run defense? Is their D-line still all banged up?

Maroney isn't really in the picture. Low production, injury issues, bad matchup.

It's mostly that 2nd RB spot that I have the most trouble with, although Housh vs Braylon is a legitimate dilemma.

Defense is gonna be a factor, too. The last 2 weeks, I've gone with the team that's played detroit, and my defenses came up big. This week, Taz's Chicago defense plays Det, which is gonna be sick. A 20+ score is very possible.

My options are Green Bay vs Min, Min at GB, and St Louis vs Was. They project very similarly, so I have to go with my gut I guess.

Is Minnesota starting the backup this week for the first time? What's his story? I guess that might lead to a big day for the GB defense.

What would you do?

D_Odds
12-20-2006, 07:16 AM
McAlister at NYG. McAlister has averaged about 20 carries per game over the last few games, much better than earlier. He hasn't had a spectacular game, though - but he's been pretty solid. How's NYG's run defense? Is their D-line still all banged up?Strahan has his first full practice today. If Strahan returns, the run defense should stiffen considerably.

SenorBeef
12-21-2006, 01:29 PM
Aside from Isotopes taking the #6 seed over Court Jesters, and Kiros and Gridbirds flipping (but not mattering, as they played the same game), which I said was a very strong probability, I've been right on with my playoff predictions.

So, I would officially like to change my prediction to me winning this week's game.

Except.. that previously, I've been talking up my opponent, and then having them underperform... so....

Um... I win.. no..... Taz crushes me.. no... I win....... which irrational superstition do I go with?

Well, I was slightly wrong about the prediction, but I've won both playoff games, so....

Taz is gonna crush me. LT is going to score enough points to set a new season scoring record IN ONE GAME. His score will be so high that yahoo's servers will break doing the math.

Marc Bulger will put up 800 yards before he's taken out of the game due to extreme exhaustion.

And Westbrook... well, not everyone is going to survive what he does.

SenorBeef
12-21-2006, 09:22 PM
Question: When calculating defense scores, do "points allowed" include stuff like defensive touchdowns? I'm starting GB, and it looked like Green Bay might shut Minnesota out, but Minnesota just scored off an interception return. Does that count against me?

Ellis Dee
12-21-2006, 09:44 PM
Question: When calculating defense scores, do "points allowed" include stuff like defensive touchdowns? I'm starting GB, and it looked like Green Bay might shut Minnesota out, but Minnesota just scored off an interception return. Does that count against me?No, it doesn't count against your defense. You still get credit for a shutout.

SenorBeef
12-21-2006, 10:22 PM
Great. Well, 15 points, that was more than I was expecting to get out of GB. Good start.

SenorBeef
12-22-2006, 01:54 PM
Gah!

Green Bay defense, points allowed, 1.

1!

The extra point on the defensive touchdown.

Going from a shutout to 1 point cost me 3 points.

And Minnesota, my regular defense, that was heavily considering starting, came up with 7 more points. :(

Tazmanian Devil
12-23-2006, 07:36 AM
Aside from Isotopes taking the #6 seed over Court Jesters, and Kiros and Gridbirds flipping (but not mattering, as they played the same game), which I said was a very strong probability, I've been right on with my playoff predictions.

So, I would officially like to change my prediction to me winning this week's game.

Except.. that previously, I've been talking up my opponent, and then having them underperform... so....

Um... I win.. no..... Taz crushes me.. no... I win....... which irrational superstition do I go with?

Well, I was slightly wrong about the prediction, but I've won both playoff games, so....

Taz is gonna crush me. LT is going to score enough points to set a new season scoring record IN ONE GAME. His score will be so high that yahoo's servers will break doing the math.

Marc Bulger will put up 800 yards before he's taken out of the game due to extreme exhaustion.

And Westbrook... well, not everyone is going to survive what he does.

:D And here I thought Lou Holtz was the king of talking up their opponents.

SenorBeef
12-23-2006, 02:33 PM
What do I do with my flex spot?

Of course, I'm not sure it's already not written in stone I lose by 2.5 points, making that stupid extra point given up by the green bay defense the critical factor in the game.

I pretty much have to take MJD against NE for my RB. He has produced, Fred is probably out, and even though I normally don't like to fuck with the NE D, he can have a big day.

So, options for my flex:

Addai (q) vs Hou. If there was no injury question, he'd be my starter. Good matchup, good production. But even though he practiced Friday and is expected to play (missed practices with a sprained ankle), that might mean he only gets a few carries. If he does play at full strength, though, he's my best option.

Parker vs Bal. Well, he's at home, so he probably won't suck as bad as last time, but he's against Bal. I see his ceiling being about 100/1, with something like 70/0 not unlikely. Then again, he can pull out unlikely big games.

McAlister at NYG. He's had the carries the last few weeks, and has put up solid, but not spectacular days.

Donte Stallworth at Dal. Inconsistent, but I expect that game to be hard fought and he might have a big game.

Braylon Edwards vs Tam. Edwards has scored the last 3 weeks, against much better defense

SenorBeef
12-23-2006, 02:34 PM
My cat managed to make me hit the post button.

Braylon Edwards vs Tam. Edwards has scored the last 3 weeks, against much better defenses. Derrick Anderson is a QB with the arm to get him the ball deep. I haven't started a WR in my flex spot for a long time, but he may end up being the top scorer.

What do you guys think?

SenorBeef
12-24-2006, 03:20 AM
It looks like Fred Taylor is hurt, and NE's defense is banged up. I'm hoping MJD can be my answer to LT - he's capable of having a huge day.

Looks like I'm going with Manning/Harrison/Housh/MJD/McAlister. I need a big day from Manning, preferably to Harrison, a solid day from McAlister, and MJD needs to be my star.

If someone can post the scores after the first set of games, I'd appreciate it.

Kiros
12-24-2006, 09:55 AM
I'll be out all day trying to catch as much football as possible while not TOTALLY ignoring the family holiday gathering - okay, who am I kidding, I'm going to be glued to the TV and pissed off that I'm away from my precious HD just to make some family members I see twice a year happy about my "presence" :p Either way, though, I won't be able to post any score updates today, so hopefully one of the others can get you caught up.

Good luck to both of the championship game participants... may the best fake football man win, or something.

P.S. Not TOO good luck to MJD, he is allowed to score just enough so that the Pats still win!

SenorBeef
12-24-2006, 10:30 AM
I'll make you a deal. Pats win 54-49, with Jones-Drew scoring 7 touchdowns.

SenorBeef
12-24-2006, 10:50 AM
Ugh, I'm doing my weekly flip flop thing where I keep hanging decisions every 3 minutes before I finally have to settle on one before I go to the bar.

Most of the time I've sat Parker based on matchup, it has come to bite me in the ass.

But the Ravens have only allowed 5 rushing TDs all year, and 3 of them in the Titans game. Which was also the last rushing TD they allowed, even a month ago.

Even LT got less than 100 and no TDs against them.

Pittsburgh is starting to click, though, and Parker is good at home, and.. and... ahh!!!!

SenorBeef
12-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Anyone happen to have the scores?

Kiros
12-24-2006, 07:09 PM
Just got home. You're up 129.90-81.62 after today's games. So you have a pretty good chance, unless Westbrook and Wes Welker both go off. I'm down about 50 in the third place game, because no one other than Rudi decided to show up this week. I'm also $160 richer thanks largely to Marc Bulger and Ladell Betts, though, so all is well in the world.

SenorBeef
12-24-2006, 07:14 PM
Ah, you just beat me to doing it myself. My numbers were a bit off:

manning 26.2
harrison 23.2
housh 15.4
mjd 29.2
mcalister 18.2
winslow 2.7
scobee 3
GB 12

129.9

Bulger 39.52
Andre Johnson 4.8
Tomlinson 13.3
gates 6.3
kaeding 10
Chi 5

Still to play: Wes Welker, Brian Westbrook

78.92


If you'd have told me Bulger would outscore Manning by 14 but I'd still be in it.. well, it would sound pretty unlikely.

Tazmanian Devil
12-25-2006, 06:18 AM
Well, unless I get a Christmas miracle ala George Bailey in 'It's a Wonderful Life', Senor Beef will win the title. I knew I was in trouble when:
1. I saw Maurice Jones-Drew's performance
2. I saw that Marvin Harrison woke up yesterday
3. Tomlinson didn't get into the end zone
4. Chicago's defense perfomed like crap against a supposed sickly Detroit offense.

This happened to me last year in Fanball where I was riding the LT express, only for him to perform slightly below average in the title game. Ah, well...it didn't help that the team I was playing last year had both Shaun Alexander AND Larry Johnson (OUCH!).

Anyway, I am offering early congratulations to Senor Beef for finally stopping the juggernaut, and I hope to see you all in the same league next year.

Ellis Dee
12-25-2006, 08:22 AM
[...]I hope to see you all in the same league next year.How about all but one? I want in on the action, dammit!

Tazmanian Devil
12-25-2006, 09:17 AM
How about all but one? I want in on the action, dammit!

I'm wondering if next year, there could be a way to fool with the number of teams to allow more of us to join. I know in the Yahoo hockey league I'm in, we have 18 teams. If Yahoo could allow football to do this, it would be a very nice thing. Or, if that's not possible, perhaps we could look into another free site that allows the commish to set the number of teams to fit requests to join.

Kiros
12-25-2006, 10:02 AM
I'm wondering if next year, there could be a way to fool with the number of teams to allow more of us to join. I know in the Yahoo hockey league I'm in, we have 18 teams. If Yahoo could allow football to do this, it would be a very nice thing. Or, if that's not possible, perhaps we could look into another free site that allows the commish to set the number of teams to fit requests to join.

We actually did 16 teams in this very league last year, and we regularly do 18 in the SDMB Baseball League. It certainly makes for a completely different balance, but it's still very fun (sometimes even more so - though if you think LT was imbalanced in THIS league, imagine him in a much larger one). Either way though, the big thing is someone has to get the league created (and draft spot reserved) early enough to get that many teams together. So... just make sure that we get it up early next year and we can probably go big if we all want to.

RetroVertigo
12-25-2006, 12:37 PM
I think 18 is the max amount of teams Yahoo allows.


Early congratulations SenorBeef on The championship.

SenorBeef
12-25-2006, 02:22 PM
How about all but one? I want in on the action, dammit!

There were a few people who stopped playing in mid-season, you could take one of their places.


I was thinking of starting a thread next year, a week or two before Yahoo fantasy football opened, and discussing as a group what the best fantasy league settings would be. We could come to a consensus on numbers, rules, etc. And I was hoping to make it so that only people really interested in fantasy football would sign up to that league, so we wouldn't have 3-4 people who didn't bother to adjust their rosters for most of the season, etc. As you all know, that bugs me a lot, especially if a roster is half-injured or empty, giving one side a free win.

SenorBeef
12-25-2006, 02:29 PM
Frankly, by the way, I'm amazed at how much my team stepped up for the playoffs. It wasn't just one fluke day that put me up there, or really bad days by my opponents, but in each game I just completely blew up. My playoff scores were 143.82, 124.28, 129.90. Those are probably 3 of the top 10 highest scores all year. The second highest score in all of the playoffs was 103.78, so I couldn't have lost any matchup.

To toot my own horn, I only made one mistake with my roster decisions (Addai over Parker last week) - and since I was deciding every week on MJD, McAlister, Parker, Addai, Maroney, Stallworth, Edwards, that's pretty good. As well as some kick ass free agent defense pickups. Actually, 2 mistakes - Vernon Davis outperformed Winslow this week.

I am curious, though - why did you leave Mike Furrey on the bench? Didn't like the matchup?

Tazmanian Devil
12-26-2006, 11:23 AM
Frankly, by the way, I'm amazed at how much my team stepped up for the playoffs. It wasn't just one fluke day that put me up there, or really bad days by my opponents, but in each game I just completely blew up. My playoff scores were 143.82, 124.28, 129.90. Those are probably 3 of the top 10 highest scores all year. The second highest score in all of the playoffs was 103.78, so I couldn't have lost any matchup.

To toot my own horn, I only made one mistake with my roster decisions (Addai over Parker last week) - and since I was deciding every week on MJD, McAlister, Parker, Addai, Maroney, Stallworth, Edwards, that's pretty good. As well as some kick ass free agent defense pickups. Actually, 2 mistakes - Vernon Davis outperformed Winslow this week.

I am curious, though - why did you leave Mike Furrey on the bench? Didn't like the matchup?
Now I can give official congratulations to Senor Beef for royally kicking my ass in the title game. Nice game. :) As to Furrey, though the Bears D hasn't been quite the same the past few weeks, I figured they would be able to shut down the Lions offense to the point that Furrey wouldn't have been of great use to me. It turns out he would have made the score closer, but even with him in the lineup, I wouldn't have been able to catch the Exploding Pancakes, as Tomlinson didn't have his usual 30 this week.

SenorBeef
12-26-2006, 01:34 PM
You put up a pretty respectable score, tha would win on most weeks - I figured your QB + RB score of 55.52 is above average, only with Bulger blowing up instead of Tomlinson. My team has just been on fire through the playoffs. That Manning/Harrison combo actually worked out how I meant it to when I drafted them, and MJD has been nuts.

It ended up being the WR production that's been the biggest difference. It sucks about Bryant, although I don't think he'd have put up enough to close the gap.

It really wasn't about LT though - you could give him 5 TDs and it wouldn't have closed the gap.

Great season, though. It's gotta suck to go 15-1, though, and have that 1 be the biggest game.

SenorBeef
12-28-2006, 09:30 PM
As we agreed earlier in the season, I'll be sending out my address in e-mails to the league so you can all send me the $200.




(I'll get around to calculating the final scores for everyone sometime soonish, just cause I'm curious myself, but I'm being lazy about it)