The Flavor of Love: what the fuck did I just see?!!11one1!

[Hippy Hollow]

I'm torn between a pitting of American society and simply starting a thread here... guess I'll start here.

Here I am, flipping toward "The Alternative" on VH-1 Classic, when I encounter this... experiment. In its second season!

The premise is that twenty women are fighting for the affection and attention of one Mr. Flavor Flav, formerly of Public Enemy. The guy with the crazy grill, goofy glasses and the big assed clocks around his neck. You know, Chuck D's comic foil? This dude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FlavaFlav.jpg).

As Mr. Flav is somewhat deficient in the appearance department (but is a classically trained pianist!) I can only presume that the women on this show are:

Truly attracted to Flavor Flav
Want to exploit his connections in the industry
Famewhoring.
Trying to get attention of Hollywood types
Famewhoring?
Wanting to "fix" an obviously troubled man
Famewhoring!

My question is: is there any reasonable hope that any of these women can aspire to a career using this show as a stepping stone? It's a more up-to-date variant of the "do porn first, then go mainstream" meme that some people seem to think is possible.

The only reality show that seems to have the possibility of setting one up for a career seems to be American Idol. Those folks have gone on to musical theatre, music, and TV. The first season of The Real World had Heather B and Kevin Powell who had careers after the show. My point is, the more exploitative and low-budget the show, the closer you are to the pornstar's plight.

Some of the participants are obvious famewhores. Some actually look like they could do much, much better than this dreck. Yet I can't turn away... drama, fighting, women acting like fratboys.

Years from now, they will mark this as the most significant decline in American popular culture.

[Hippy Hollow]

I'm probably violating some netiquette here, but I have to respond:

One of the "candidates" just shit on the floor.

I'm not kidding.

She shit on the stairs.

She will always be in my mind "the girl who shit on Flavor Flav's stairs." I don't see a gig on The View in her future.

[Batsinma Belfry]

I love this show!
Too bad you missed the first season, it was a hoot.

The girls this season are alot more "low rent" than from last season. I guess, because they let Flav pick them this time.

[BoxofNothing]

No one can explain the attraction that is The Flav.

[supervenusfreak]

This article (http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1222626_4_0_,00.html) tries to explain the attraction. My guess is that he is trying to extend his 15 minutes.

There are plenty of women out there for Flav. I find this show amusing for the very same reason I find Jerry Springer amusing. I am a bad bad man for not looking away.

[Mahaloth]

She will always be in my mind "the girl who shit on Flavor Flav's stairs." I don't see a gig on The View in her future.

It sounds to me like she'd fit right in on the View. :D

[Blanche]

That "!!!!!111one1" stuff is getting very very old. It got old a long time ago.

[vibrotronica]

Flava Flav's got problems of his own!

OK, I'll bite. How (or why) did she shit on the stairs?

[Enginerd]

She's a big Najeh Davenport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najeh_Davenport#Criminal_charges_in_Miami) fan.

[Cluricaun]

Flava Flav's got problems of his own!

I can't do nuthin for ya man. :cool:

The best part about last night is that the girl who dropped the deuce didn't get asked to leave. We are seriously culturally dead as a people.

[pizzabrat]

I can't do nuthin for ya man. :cool:

The best part about last night is that the girl who dropped the deuce didn't get asked to leave. We are seriously culturally dead as a people.

I'm sure there was more shitting on stairs in the olden days.

[amarinth]

From to the article:
That's not the only shocker this season: ''On a new episode, a girl s---s on my floor,'' he says. (Apparently, she couldn't hold it until the bathroom break.) ''I kept her around anyway just to show everybody that accidents do happen, and I can forgive.''

Which (according to recent rumors) is apparently a lesson that they have yet to learn on The View.

[CalMeacham]

From to the article:

Quote:
That's not the only shocker this season: ''On a new episode, a girl s---s on my floor,'' he says. (Apparently, she couldn't hold it until the bathroom break.) ''I kept her around anyway just to show everybody that accidents do happen, and I can forgive.''




Did they at least hit her on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper?


This seems extremely weird. There must be more here than meets the eye. They wouldn't let her take a bathroom break? I think my sympathies are with this poor woman.

[Greywolf73]

I'm SO glad someone else started this thread so I didn't have to and in the process admit that I actually watch this show. And enjoy it for its sheer trashiness. :D Which is what I'm doing anyway by posting now...err, nevermind.

Well, now that reality tv has lowered the bar by showing someone shitting on the floor on-camera, I can't imagine where the bar rests now. Somewhere between contestants being armed and allowed to shoot each other and an execution performed live on tv, I suppose.

[Cluricaun]

I think my sympathies are with this poor woman.

Agreed, but to a point. That anyone would be made to suffer by withholding bathroom privilages for a television shoot is horrifying, and shame on the production staff if this be the case. However, I would have been out the door long before it got to the point of me having to shake one down my pants leg.

I'd definately rather be remembered as "They crazy dude who took off running and never came back to the show" than "The crazy dude who beamed down a shatner on Flavor Flav's stairs" every time I walk into a resturant for the rest of my life. Sometimes you have to help yourself out.

[Tabula Rasa]

I remember being at a grad. school party in mid- to late '96 where someone described a show he had seen on Japanese television: a seven year old girl was told that her mother had died, her grief was filmed, then she was given the "happy" news that her mother wasn't dead after all. Some people just shook their heads about how depraved Japanese popular entertainment was. I said that they were only about five years ahead of us depravity-wise. Does anyone know if we've closed the depravity gap in the ten years since then? I'd like to think we're number one (with a side order, apparently, of number two).

Tabby

[Hippy Hollow]

That "!!!!!111one1" stuff is getting very very old. It got old a long time ago.
'K thx 4 evrythg bye!1!

[Hippy Hollow]

Agreed, but to a point. That anyone would be made to suffer by withholding bathroom privilages for a television shoot is horrifying, and shame on the production staff if this be the case. However, I would have been out the door long before it got to the point of me having to shake one down my pants leg.

I'd definately rather be remembered as "They crazy dude who took off running and never came back to the show" than "The crazy dude who beamed down a shatner on Flavor Flav's stairs" every time I walk into a resturant for the rest of my life. Sometimes you have to help yourself out.
Absolutely. For some reason people think that dignity and self-respect are abstractions that disappear when the red light of a video camera comes on. I gotta take a shit/have diarrhea and I can't hold it? Fuck you Producer Man, I am going to the lavvy. Now. To hell with your shot. It's not like I have much in this world besides my dignity and self-respect... I'm not giving that away for some stupid show.

As Cluricaun notes, better to be ridiculed for a stinky loaf-pinchin' BEHIND the bathroom door or running like a maniac than to be confirmed as the Nastiest Heifer Alive. Oh dear, oh dear.

[pesch]

Cluricaun, just wanted to let you know that reading

"The crazy dude who beamed down a shatner on Flavor Flav's stairs"is bringing tears to my eyes.

[RandMcnally]

That "!!!!!111one1" stuff is getting very very old. It got old a long time ago.


Seriously!!1!!shiftone!1

[GingerOfTheNorth]

beamed down a shatner
You're a God. Or something equally awesome.

[Evil Captor]

I don't know how it goes for contestants on Flava Flav's sad little enterprise, but my wife, who follows the Runway reality show competition for would-be fashion designers, tells me that many of the contestants -- perhaps all of them -- get a serious boost to their careers as a result of being on Runway. Even those who get booted out early have been shown in followups to have found some very nice design gigs.

Of course, Runway is several notches above Flava Flav, since it deals with people who are actually capable of doing difficult things well, and focusses on how they do it as well as what kind of people they are.

[Chanteuse]

Cluricaun, just wanted to let you know that reading

"The crazy dude who beamed down a shatner on Flavor Flav's stairs"

is bringing tears to my eyes.

Same here--I'm having to choke my hysterical giggles back to keep from waking the kids up! :D

[Batsinma Belfry]

According to her video interview on the VH1 website, her stomach had been rumbly all day, but nothing serious. Then, they rounded them up for the Elimination (Hee!) Ceremony and started taping. But Flav took over an hour to come down the stairs, and everybody had to stay put while waiting for him. She said, she felt like she would be able to hold it until the end of the ceremony.
And from what I could tell, she did make it to the end, but headed up the stairs before they stopped taping.
And incase you missed the show, they didn't show anything on the foor. And according to her it was just liquid, no shatners, deuces, or turds.

[mobo85]

I thought the shit was supposed to hit the fan. I guess her aim was off.

[cerberus]

This is analgous to the "NASCAR Corrolary":

People mainly watch NASCAR in anticipation of a crash or wreck.

Reality programming has an appeal, similar to that of rubbernecking at a crime scene or traffic accident (or public suicide): people want to see the wreckage.

It's also a matter of quasi-schadenfreude: people want to see people more fucked-up than they are: people want to see the human equivalent of fatal car wrecks.

[Cluricaun]

And incase you missed the show, they didn't show anything on the foor. And according to her it was just liquid, no shatners, deuces, or turds.

If was your stairs that this happened on, would composition make any real differance to you, or would you freely admit "She pooped on my stairs"? :D

[Batsinma Belfry]

No, it's just as bad. I just didn't want anybody to think they missed out on seeing a big steamy turd, lying on the stairs.

[Tuckerfan]

I'm SO glad someone else started this thread so I didn't have to and in the process admit that I actually watch this show. And enjoy it for its sheer trashiness. :D Which is what I'm doing anyway by posting now...err, nevermind.

Well, now that reality tv has lowered the bar by showing someone shitting on the floor on-camera, I can't imagine where the bar rests now. Somewhere between contestants being armed and allowed to shoot each other and an execution performed live on tv, I suppose.Actually, either of those things would raise the bar, since they be doing us a service by cleaning up the gene pool.

[Mahaloth]

That "!!!!!111one1" stuff is getting very very old. It got old a long time ago.

I've been googling "11one1" and searching Urban Dictionary for it but can't find it.

What does it mean? Everyone?

It strikes me as very middle schoolish.

[pizzabrat]

I've been googling "11one1" and searching Urban Dictionary for it but can't find it.

What does it mean? Everyone?

It strikes me as very middle schoolish.

Come on, it's a pretty straightforward gag. It's not "11one1", it's "!!!!!!!!!!1111one" . Now figure it out.

Now what's middle school is the old "I don't get it, but I'll make a really bad guess at it and then disparage it based on my explanation" trick.

[Lemur866]

It's just what it seems.

Some excitable people use a lot of exclamation points while posting on teh interweb. And if you fail to hold down the shift key completely while entering those !'s, some of them will turn to 1's. So some interweb wits mock this by purposefully entering "one" amidst a string of !'s and 1's.

[Greywolf73]

No, it's just as bad. I just didn't want anybody to think they missed out on seeing a big steamy turd, lying on the stairs.

Now I'm disturbed thinking that there might be people somewhere who do feel as though they've missed out. :eek:

[DrunkOnion]

No, it's just as bad. I just didn't want anybody to think they missed out on seeing a big steamy turd, lying on the stairs.
Well I know I wouldn't want too miss that. :D

[Autumn Almanac]

Geez, and I thought the catfight at the end of the first season was too good to be topped. Season 2 had a worse catfight in the first episode, and now this apparently.

My dad once saw Flavor Flav and Bridgitte Neilsen (I'm sure I've spelled that incorrectly) on television and assumed that she was attending a benefit for the homeless. I had to explain that Flavor Flav is not in fact a homeless man, he's a famous rapper with a mansion and his own TV show. I think he still doesn't believe me.

[Cat Fight]

Flava FLAV!

I'm not even sure the show is comparable to any other competitive reality series (let alone American Idol). The retarded nicknames, the ever-increasing clock sizes. It's like they took every Blind Date contestant that was deemed a liability and let 'em at each other.

This second season cat fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAkp_Hr5rN4) over a bed says it all.

As for 15 minutes of fame, while I may never forget New York, that's because I'd cross the street if I saw her coming. And last season one of the girls' mothers revealed that her daughter had been on several other reality shows (which got her booted).

[CalMeacham]

Come on, it's a pretty straightforward gag. It's not "11one1", it's "!!!!!!!!!!1111one" . Now figure it out.

Now what's middle school is the old "I don't get it, but I'll make a really bad guess at it and then disparage it based on my explanation" trick.


Actually, this was completely obscure to me, until I read Lemur866's explanation. To me, it's not "straightforward" or "just what it seems". And I don't think I'm more than normally dense.

I suspect it's the kind of thing that;s obvious if you already know it. But I've never seen any sort of post where somebody used a huge run of exclamation points, but didn't hold the shift key down the whole time. I've certainly not seen anyone extend the error into a joke by spelling out "one". If you haven't seen that, you won't get the joke.

No disparaging trick needed.

[Cluricaun]

As for 15 minutes of fame, while I may never forget New York, that's because I'd cross the street if I saw her coming. And last season one of the girls' mothers revealed that her daughter had been on several other reality shows (which got her booted)

Is it just me, or do most of these girls look like cast offs from the moonlight bunny ranch?

[pizzabrat]

I suspect it's the kind of thing that;s obvious if you already know it. But I've never seen any sort of post where somebody used a huge run of exclamation points, but didn't hold the shift key down the whole time. I've certainly not seen anyone extend the error into a joke by spelling out "one". If you haven't seen that, you won't get the joke.


If I hadn't seen the joke before, I wouldn't get the joke?

FTR, this (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309154) is where I first saw the gag; in a post where someone was asking for an explanation of it. Even from the title it was pretty obvious, since I was familiar with the concept of typos and common internet usage of superfluous exclamation points. Notice that deeper in the thread, even after it's been explained, the OP still doesn't get it. I guess it's just dependent on the sense of humor you have, because I thought it was pretty clever the first time I saw it.

[Blanche]

I've been googling "11one1" and searching Urban Dictionary for it but can't find it.

What does it mean? Everyone?

It strikes me as very middle schoolish.

You guessed right. I'm pretty sure the "111one1" joke dates back to app. 1999 on somethingawful.com. There was a character called "Jeff K" that was a parody of the idiot 12-15 year olds that frequented computer and gaming-related forums and chat rooms. The humor was that he usually came across as mildly retarded and wrote in almost unreadable AOL-speak, but occasionally he'd say something clever. The character was very excitable and frequently ended sentences with strings of exclamation marks interspersed with 1s.

Jeff K articles were funny and very popular, but they also appealed to a rather dumb crowd that wasn't any smarter than the kids being parodied (kinda like the Beavis and Butthead fans who are missing a layer of irony but still dig the show). Jeff K was HEAVILY imitated until all his old fans were sick of that style of humor, and I think it was eventually a bannable offense to imitate Jeff K on the somethingawful.com forums. This was all about 5-6 years ago and you fortunately don't see much of it anymore, but occasionally you'll get people intentiionally spelling "like" as "liek", referring to their friend Jerry and the railgun they are building in the creek, or doing the "!!!!@!!!111one1!!" thing, and it dredges up painful memories.

[CalMeacham]

If I hadn't seen the joke before, I wouldn't get the joke?

FTR, this is where I first saw the gag; in a post where someone was asking for an explanation of it. Even from the title it was pretty obvious, since I was familiar with the concept of typos and common internet usage of superfluous exclamation points.

Thank you for making my case for me.

[pesch]

Just FTR, I was confused by !!!111one1! as well, but couldn't be arsed to ask.

And at my age, I'm grateful that I didn't know (although I did read SA for awhile there).

[Talon Karrde]

I remember being at a grad. school party in mid- to late '96 where someone described a show he had seen on Japanese television: a seven year old girl was told that her mother had died, her grief was filmed, then she was given the "happy" news that her mother wasn't dead after all. Some people just shook their heads about how depraved Japanese popular entertainment was. I said that they were only about five years ahead of us depravity-wise. Does anyone know if we've closed the depravity gap in the ten years since then? I'd like to think we're number one (with a side order, apparently, of number two).
There's this song by Lou Reed called The Kids that has the sound of kids wailing. It's really harrowing, and there's a rumor that the producer got his kids into the studio and told them their mom died, and recorded their cries for the song.

[Yookeroo]

There's this song by Lou Reed called The Kids that has the sound of kids wailing. It's really harrowing, and there's a rumor that the producer got his kids into the studio and told them their mom died, and recorded their cries for the song.

This is OK only if it's for the anti-Bush cause.