View Full Version : What if NFL playoffs were run like the BCS?
12-05-2006, 08:40 PM
That's what this ESPN.com article speculates on. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2687443)
What do you think? Frankly, it amuses me just to think of the merry chaos erupting, but that's just me. :D
12-05-2006, 11:28 PM
I do think the playoff system needs fixing. The conference/division system means the top two teams often don't meet in the Superbowl. The points system mentioned in the link would be one solution. Or maybe just throw out the artifical categories and have the eight teams with the best overall record go to the playoffs:
game 1 - 1v8
game 2 - 2v7
game 3 - 3v6
game 4 - 4v5
winner of game 1 v winner of game 4
winner of game 2 v winner of game 3
the two winners meet in the Superbowl - and are probably the first and second best teams in the league
12-06-2006, 07:48 AM
What do you think?I think it would be an abomination. Apparently the author of that article agrees:All the playoff upsets, all the great finishes, all the excitement ... it never would have happened. Sound like a good plan to you?NCAA football has the best regular season followed by the worst postseason. MLB has the best playoffs preceded by the worst regular season. The NFL has the second best regular season followed by the second best postseason.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And certainly don't kill it dead with BCS-style idiocy.
As for re-seeding, I personally hate the idea. Divisions should mean something, and the NBA has shown that re-seeding renders divisions meaningless.
Also, there are distinct differences in how to be successful in the regular season (overwhelm most opponents with a prodigious passing game) versus how to be successful in the postseason (strong ground attack and stifling defense.) I find it a never-ending source of amusement when perennial regular season powers like Indy, Denver, and the Chiefs of a few years ago consistently go on-and-done in the playoffs.
The old adage about offense sells tickets while defense wins championships remains true even in this pass-happy era. I'd hate to see any system put in place that rewards the paradigm that "only sells tickets." Give me real football, please. Which is why, incidentally, I don't watch NCAA football. That game is almost as far removed from "real football" as the Arena League.
12-06-2006, 12:57 PM
The most common solution I hear: "Use the existing bowls as the early rounds". This would preserve the bowl structure and get the money into the host cities/sponsors.
However, this presents a problem to the fans. With an 8-team playoff, you're looking at 3 successive road trips in a 3-week period. How many fans can afford that? Airfare, tickets, lodging can get costly to these destination cities... plus cancellation fees if your team doesn't advance?
1st round: Sun Bowl, 2nd Round: Sugar Bowl, Final: Rose Bowl. You have 3 trips to El Paso, New Orleans, and Pasadena.
Granted, the teams that will make the playoffs will have rabid fan followings... but enough to fill 80,000+ seat stadiums (much more than hoops or D-IAA football).
You could use home fields for early rounds, but then the bowls/cities/sponsors lose out. Which is IMHO the main reason the playoffs aren't happening.
The BCS has its flaws, but it's still better than a few years ago with the Big 10/Pac 10 was locked into the Rose, the Big 8 into the Orange, and the SEC into the Fiesta.
12-06-2006, 01:37 PM
NCAA football has the best regular season followed by the worst postseason. MLB has the best playoffs preceded by the worst regular season. The NFL has the second best regular season followed by the second best postseason.NCAA football (well college sports in general) has the worst regular season of any popular sport I can think of. With the creampuff scheduling the scores are usually 50-10, which is never fun to watch. The turnover is so rapid I have no idea who is playing on any of the teams. A minor annoyance, but I also don't like that I flip on a game and see "OSU" is playing and have no idea who that is, cuz it could be Oregon, Oklahoma, Ohio.... The only way I can think of to follow it is to have gone to the school playing. Since I went to a school that didn't really truck with college football, I have absolutely no interest in it. A good sport should be watchable by anyone.
I do think its an interesting exercise to use the BCS with pro football, where we usually have a pretty good idea of who the best teams are and having a metric to quantify how good a team is sounds cool. That said, its never happening, so I guess its just a fun thought exercise.
12-07-2006, 03:40 AM
You could use home fields for early rounds, but then the bowls/cities/sponsors lose out. Which is IMHO the main reason the playoffs aren't happening.What's wrong with the GMAC Bowl being a home game for someone? Might have trouble with smaller schools and smaller stadiums, but from what I've seen the lesser bowls don't exactly pack them in anyway. And local economies are still going to be stimulated, it's just going to be the local economy of the home school.
The BCS has its flaws, but it's still better than a few years ago with the Big 10/Pac 10 was locked into the Rose, the Big 8 into the Orange, and the SEC into the Fiesta.In the very beginning, did anyone ever think of adding a mandatory one game playoff if the polls were split? That'd have been the simplest solution. Has there ever been a case of a team winning one poll but coming in THIRD in the other?
12-07-2006, 10:35 AM
I used to be a hardcore 8-Team advocate, but I really think that would diminish the regualr season (which is incredible). I now support the +1 proposal.
And I think the NFL has the second best playoffs, but NCAA Basketball, not Baseball, has the best playoff.
NOTHING beats March Madness!
12-07-2006, 11:28 AM
I am all for a +1 proposal. That's what I thought would happen when they announced they were doing an additional BCS game this year. But no.
#1 Ohio State vs #4 LSU and #2 Florida vs #3 Michigan on New Years Day. One week later is the winner of each game. The Ohio State vs Florida game is one week after New Years this year anyway.
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