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CandidGamera
12-07-2006, 07:33 PM
Here 'tis.

My store's shipment of 52 was largely damaged, so I would appreciate spoilers on that.

Justice Society of America is the book of the week - pure, 100% awesome.

Kamino Neko
12-07-2006, 09:11 PM
JSofA - A thing of beauty. I don't like Robin being reinserted into the second generation image, but I can ignore that. I ♥ Maxine, and Starman. I'm less fond of Damage's new 'tude, but as long as he gets over it soon, I can live with it. Beyond that... Sweeeeeet.

All-New Atom - I love how Ryan dealt with Dwarfstar. That's mean, but in a cool way.

I FINALLY managed to get ahold of a copy of Tales of the Unexpected 2. The Spectre story was OK, but the Dr 13 story is the real gem. It takes a pretty special kind of crazy to disbelieve in aliens, magic, and monsters in the DCU, but it's a whole lot of fun seeing him justifying his disbelieve.

Menocchio
12-07-2006, 09:29 PM
52 Week 31: Captain Comet and two Green Lanterns (one of them a tiny insect GL) try to hold off an invasion of an alien world (that looks awfully familiar). They drop giant cubes onto the planet, and them invade with zombies, which capture and assimilate the population.

Meanwhile, in metropolis, Nat, the new Jade, and Jake talk about one opf their creepier teammates. Nat and Jake kiss, and when nat walks out, Jake morphs into a poorly drawn Lex Luthor.

Fate and Ralph approach Cassie and the Super-memorial. Ralph gives her evidence that the Cult's leader was a fraud, but that something real happened at the cermony. Cassie agrees, and states that Connor's back as Supernova. Ralph leaves suddenly, and confronts Supernova. Ralph knows who he is.

"The clues were there. Once I used my head, the who made perfect sense. The powers threw me, but when I saw them from the proper angle, I sussed out the one device that could tie them all together. Superman being out of the picture was the key, One of two keys, if you want to be cute about it."

back in space, a pale woman who looks like the love child of the Sheeda Queen and one of HR Geiger's Aliens. She's got the insectoid GL's torso as an earring (giving me the Jibblies), is snacking on his ring, and has Adam Blake mounted like a deer on the front of ship (he's preparing to jettison his conciousness, that's one mystery in space solved).

From a distance, Lobo and the Lost in Space trio observe the wreckage.
"Ladies and gentlemen... Lady Styx" .

Superman Confidental #2: Wow. Just... Wow. The stuff with the volcano was probably the single best Superman scene I've ever read. Gives you a good sense of what it must be like to be the man of steel, and how terrifying that can be.

Detective Comics #826: Have I mentioned how much I love that the core Batman titles have abandoned "event-based" storytelling in favor of just really good stories, in the case pf 'Tec, single-issue ones? Because I do. And next issue... Scarface returns! Yay!

Jonah Hex #14: Interesting how they're sticking to their rule of all single-issue stories, while now presenting a definite developing storyline. This issue explained a lot about how Jonah became the man he is, actually.

The All-New Atom #6: For the ultimate showdown between rationality and magic, it ended rather quickly. Still a pretty decent issue, but it lacked the oomph previous ones packed. Too much plot to tie up in too lfew pages.

cckerberos
12-07-2006, 10:12 PM
I don't like Robin being reinserted into the second generation image, but I can ignore that.Why not? It wouldn't be a very good homage to All-Star Comics #58 if they cut him out.

Lightray
12-07-2006, 10:17 PM
#%& @$#* store sold out of JSA #1! grr.

52: Ralph's teaser with Supernova was just annoying, and the space story just needs a little more exposition or set-up or something.

The New Atom: Still excellent, although I feel like I missed an issue.

Supergirl: Not so excellent, still harping on the same note, and I also feel like I missed an issue. Maybe I did -- what happened to Power Boy?

I note in the ads for the Action Comics annual, that I might have guessed correctly (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7926603&postcount=2) about the current storyline (even though I called Action Comics, "Adventure Comics" in that other post :o )

cckerberos
12-07-2006, 10:44 PM
Supergirl: Not so excellent, still harping on the same note, and I also feel like I missed an issue. Maybe I did -- what happened to Power Boy?
Nothing. It's a fill-in (it says "this takes place after issue 10" in a caption on the first page).

JThunder
12-07-2006, 10:55 PM
52[/b]: Ralph's teaser with Supernova was just annoying...And somehow, I doubt that the resolution is going to make much sense.

Lightray
12-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Nothing. It's a fill-in (it says "this takes place after issue 10" in a caption on the first page).
Okay, then. I'll just file this one under "annoying", as well.

lawoot
12-07-2006, 11:18 PM
We've already had someone spoil 52 #31 - could someone spoil #30 for me? My shop never got them in (thanks, UPS!)

Horatio Hellpop
12-08-2006, 02:06 AM
Could someone tell me about Rick Tyler? I thought he was dead and replaced by the android from DC 1,000,000. Is JSA #1 Jesse's first appearance as Liberty Belle?

I wish they'd explain why there is a JSA and a JLA, instead of the latter being a continuation of the former. It's like having a police department and sheriff's department with overlapping jurisdictions. What makes one case Superman's problem and not Alan Scott's?

Revenant Threshold
12-08-2006, 02:13 AM
52 Week 31: Meanwhile, in metropolis, Nat, the new Jade, and Jake talk about one opf their creepier teammates. Nat and Jake kiss, and when nat walks out, Jake morphs into a poorly drawn Lex Luthor. That was Lex? I assumed it was the teammate they were talking about. If it was, you're right about poorly-drawn. :confused:

cckerberos
12-08-2006, 02:18 AM
Could someone tell me about Rick Tyler? I thought he was dead and replaced by the android from DC 1,000,000.
Rick was in retirement (and dying of cancer) when the android became the new Hourman, but has never been dead. The android Hourman cured him and Rick resumed being Hourman. The android ultimately sacrificed itself by switching places with the original Hourman, Rex Tyler, at the battle against Extant in Zero Hour.

Is JSA #1 Jesse's first appearance as Liberty Belle?Yes.

Kamino Neko
12-08-2006, 02:30 AM
Could someone tell me about Rick Tyler? I thought he was dead and replaced by the android from DC 1,000,000. Is JSA #1 Jesse's first appearance as Liberty Belle?

REX Tyler was dead. Killed by Extant in Zero Hour. He isn't, any longer, as Rick arranged with the Android to get an hour with Rex - who was pulled from the moment immediately before his death for that hour - then, when he was mortally wounded himself, he switched places with his father. After they repaired Rick's injuries, the Android stepped in to be the Hourman that Extant killed.

I wish they'd explain why there is a JSA and a JLA, instead of the latter being a continuation of the former.

Why are there the Teen Titans, instead of them just being part of the JLA? Why are there solo heroes instead of everyone just being brought in under the JLA banner?

The two teams have different historical contexts and internal dynamics. The JLA is the world's biggest heroes banding together to face threats they couldn't face individually. Period. They're friendly by necessity, but that's not part of the team's reasons for being. The JSA is a continuation of the world's first superteam, which has, through the incorporation of the children, grandchildren and other heirs to the mantles of older heroes, built into a family, and school, of sorts.

That was Lex? I assumed it was the teammate they were talking about. If it was, you're right about poorly-drawn. :confused:

I'm pretty sure you had it right. Hannibal is bald, too, and that is exactly his power, as was indicated in the conversation they were having.

Jonathan Chance
12-08-2006, 07:34 AM
New Tales of Old Palomar - Beto goes back to the well of Palomar and begins fleshing out characters already pretty well fleshed out. Still great writing and artwork but I'll be interested to see if he breaks any new ground with it.

New Universal - After Transmetropolitan I'll give anything Warren Ellis writes a solid try. I've got no damn idea what's going on but there's a bundle of storylines and I'll stick with it to see how it comes together.

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
12-08-2006, 08:19 AM
I picked up the Archive edition #20 of Eisner's The Spirit.

Complete collection, so far. :cool:

The more I read The Spirit, the more I admire Eisner's writing.

The last story in this volume is very odd....

diku
12-08-2006, 09:12 AM
The New Atom: Still excellent, although I feel like I missed an issue.



I felt the same way, but there is a caption in number 5 that says that the story continues in Brave New World. I dug that out, and that has the story about saving the President (kinda) and more of his fight against the tiny guys on the dog. Still a good comic though.

Menocchio
12-08-2006, 09:15 AM
That was Lex? I assumed it was the teammate they were talking about. If it was, you're right about poorly-drawn. :confused:
Yeah, that actually makes more sense.

mazinger_z
12-08-2006, 02:30 PM
Can anyone spoil the following for me? I get comics monthly now (or longer). I hate posting what seems like old news, but I plan on being more active when I have a chance.

1) Why did they renumber JSA to #1?

2) Superman Confidential #2 sounds interesting. Is #1 any good? What happened with the volcano in #2?

Thanks.

JThunder
12-08-2006, 02:33 PM
1) Why did they renumber JSA to #1?
It's a new series. The old series was simply "JSA." This one is titled "Justice Society of America"--though of course, it does abbreviate to "JSA."

MonkeyMule
12-08-2006, 02:35 PM
It's a new series. The old series was simply "JSA." This one is titled "Justice Society of America"--though of course, it does abbreviate to "JSA."

So they ended the Old JSA title to start a new J.S.A. title? Odd

D_Odds
12-08-2006, 02:39 PM
So they ended the Old JSA title to start a new J.S.A. title? Odd
Sadly, it's not. Rather than have a two-three month hiatus, they'd rather repackage the series with a new number 1, which tends to get more press in comic journals. They're hoping for a sales surge for the new creative team.

Wolfian
12-10-2006, 11:39 AM
52 #31: Oh noes! Its' the iBorg! That whole scene reads a lot differently if you have that iPod commerical song running through your head.

Justice Society #1: WWIII? Is that their term for Infinite Crisis? I'm loving the new characters, especially Maxine.

Supergirl #12: I was planning on holding off on this series until the TPB, but then I saw that Amanda Conner was drawing it. Sure its a fill-in and is more an introduction to the new Terra than a Supergirl story, but it was a lot of fun. I'm half-convinced that Supergirl threatening to melt that guy was an homage to my favorite line from Justice League Unlimited (DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT SUPERGIRL! SUPERGIRL CAN MELT YOU WITH HER EYES!).

Kamino Neko
12-10-2006, 11:51 AM
Justice Society #1: WWIII? Is that their term for Infinite Crisis?

World War III will take place in the last few issues of 52.

CandidGamera
12-10-2006, 03:31 PM
Lessee - what else. Nightwing continues to not suck since the change in writers.. snagged a Christmas issue of Justice League Unlimited which was pretty good.. Outsiders was interesting, but raises a continuity point about Sabbac..

Detective was very cool. Wonderful Joker story. Manhunter rocks, glad to see the first of its extended run.

I enjoyed Supergirl this month, quite a bit. I love the geeks in hero costumes.

Mystery in Space - Looks like we're about to kick into butt-kicking mode.

Atom - nice wrap-up to the first arc, and another cryptic clue to carry us through..

Invincible - who doesn't love this book?

Official Handbook of the Invincible Universe - Had to buy it.

Welcome to Tranquility #1 - Gail Simone has another winner here.

Ranchoth
12-10-2006, 08:32 PM
My supplier might be a little behind, but is the Amazing Spider-Man issue with...

...Peter fleeing Iron Man and barging into a TV studio to blow the whistle on the superhuman internment-camp

...the current one? If so—

—Love-fest sentiment about the value of truth in government and due process aside, I'd say that Mister Parker is seriously overestimating the Marvel Earth population's willingness to tolerate superpowered activity when they fear—justified or not—for their own safety. He's probably lucky they haven't unleashed enough Sentinels to turn the U.S. into a damn Tokusatsu set.

...of course, with the current zeitgeist, Iron Man's going to get accosted by an old black guy who's mad at him for only helping the blue skins. (Then Tony will kill him, and tie a puppy to a railroad track.) :smack:

cckerberos
12-10-2006, 10:17 PM
So they ended the Old JSA title to start a new J.S.A. title? Odd
There's an interview with Johns up on Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/JSA/JohnsJSA1.html) in which he discusses this:
As the discussions were going on, and we knew that Justice League of America was going to be relaunching with a new #1, Steve Wacker and I felt that we [couldn't] call the book JSA anymore, because it would feel old, since JLA was gone. So, we talked about changing the title, but realized that we couldn't do it until its "brother book" launched, and Justice League wasn't going to launch until July. So we talked some more, and discussed relaunching the book with the new name after Justice League launched. That way, we could capitalize on the new direction, and be more in synch with Justice League, since Brad and I had talked about a crossover already.

photopat
12-11-2006, 02:49 PM
JSA looks GREAT! It seems as though this Starman will be some version of Thom Kallor, although possibly not the one in the current Legion series. I hope we get a visit from Jack Knight at some point.

52...I have this sudden suspicion that Supernova is [spoiler]-----Ray Palmer-----[spoiler].

Thoughts?

photopat
12-11-2006, 02:50 PM
Crap. Will somebody please fix that spoiler?

Lightray
12-11-2006, 04:48 PM
Thoughts?
Heh. My local Comic Shop Guys were convinced that's who Supernova was -- because of his costume, before he even made an appearance in 52. They argued that to me quite a bit, and IIRC it was one of these threads that sorted it all out for me.

It would be the height of non-Alanis irony if those knuckleheads turned out to accidentally be correct.

p.s., unless you have some inside info, I wouldn't think there's a need to spoiler-blackout speculation, which that seems to be.

photopat
12-11-2006, 05:17 PM
Heh. My local Comic Shop Guys were convinced that's who Supernova was -- because of his costume, before he even made an appearance in 52. They argued that to me quite a bit, and IIRC it was one of these threads that sorted it all out for me.

It would be the height of non-Alanis irony if those knuckleheads turned out to accidentally be correct.

p.s., unless you have some inside info, I wouldn't think there's a need to spoiler-blackout speculation, which that seems to be.

No, it's just speculation.

Menocchio
12-11-2006, 06:52 PM
Ray as supernova makes sense. The Flight can be surfing on wind currents. The Teleportation shrinking and growing. He'd know where the Batcave is, and he knows Ralph, but not Cassie. he has a reason for hiding his identity. Heck, he has some familarity with time travel, if he's going to tie into the Booster/Skeets story.

But why is he wearing the GBS logo? And what about the clues Ralph alluded to. Why is Superman's absence the key? And frankly, he'd be much nicer to Ralph, of all the heroes.

MonkeyMule
12-11-2006, 08:52 PM
52 Question: Why the hell is Skeets a lunatic running around murdering people? I always saw him as Booster's sidekick. That and isnt he Dead? Didn't Checkmate dismantle him in prelude to infinite crisis?

Kamino Neko
12-11-2006, 09:08 PM
That and isnt he Dead? Didn't Checkmate dismantle him in prelude to infinite crisis?

After Ted's death, and the discovery of what had been done with Skeets, Booster went back to the future, and came back with a new Skeets.

MonkeyMule
12-11-2006, 09:15 PM
After Ted's death, and the discovery of what had been done with Skeets, Booster went back to the future, and came back with a new Skeets.

And the new skeets wants to kill everybody? And isn't booster a fugitive in the future?

Kamino Neko
12-11-2006, 09:17 PM
And the new skeets wants to kill everybody? And isn't booster a fugitive in the future?

They were forced to let him off the first time, because the historical records had him as a hero in the 20th century.

He is again after he and New Skeets stole historical records to try to change the past/present.

MonkeyMule
12-11-2006, 09:18 PM
Still, why is Skeets so bloodthirsty?

CandidGamera
12-12-2006, 09:01 AM
Interesting tidbits in the March solicit for Supergirl and the Legion :

SUPERGIRL AND THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #28
Written by Mark Waid
Art by Barry Kitson & Mick Gray
Cover by Kitson
The Legion and the Wanderers have joined forces to take the Dominator War away from Earth and to an unfamiliar realm where life is cheap and victory is dear. And at long last, the Dominators’ link to the events of 52 is revealed!

Never saw I'd see that team again.

Menocchio
12-12-2006, 09:58 AM
Still, why is Skeets so bloodthirsty?
Yet to be revealed. Speculation is that it has something to do with the "machine war" Morrow once mentioned.

Lightray
12-12-2006, 10:21 AM
Never saw I'd see that team again.
I'm thinking that's probably the group that Sun Boy has been hanging out with.

CandidGamera
12-12-2006, 12:01 PM
I'm thinking that's probably the group that Sun Boy has been hanging out with.

Probably, but I can hope. ;) Did they match up at all to the pre-Crisis versions? It's been a while, and I can't remember.

Lightray
12-12-2006, 01:33 PM
That group is a bit beyond my difficulty level for LSH lore...

Plus, it looks like they've got a few of the Subs in the current LSV (e.g., Polar Boy, Chloryphyll Kid), so there's no guarentee the current group members can be mapped to previous continuities.