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Brithael
09-08-1999, 08:38 PM
OK i know there are hacks and cooks of all sorts.But theres Lots of truth and sense in paganism if persued wholeheartedly and wiht some SENSE.
that being said i wish to address the entry concerning the love spell. there are some flaws to this well meaning response published here. Firstly in order to even have the proper materials one must go through arduous preparation...the cleaning of a sacred space...the building of the altar..the purification of the Athame <witches knife> used for cutting magic and channeling energies never for cutting and other satanic gibberish. this takes a long time THEN you can start your "spell" if you wish to call it that....
I realy do take offense at the seemingly good natured jokes made here...i dont think i need to quote that refuse or reproduce it here....just take a bit more consideration for the things held dear to others if you will otherwise i really like this site and its purpose....oh yeah and SEE i complained without making the issue religious os spouting sophomoric obscenities like some of the ones who continually misrepresent Earth Friends by their actions and assuming that they are among us....
Blessed be!

DrFidelius
09-08-1999, 08:48 PM
Does anyone here know what this kid is talking about? What finagling love spell?

Strainger
09-08-1999, 08:55 PM
Just one period at the end of sentences, please.

Czarcasm
09-08-1999, 09:05 PM
I dub thee...Son Of Dragonfly99!

gypsy
09-08-1999, 09:38 PM
Love potion number 9???

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Seraphim
09-08-1999, 10:03 PM
Wow, I guess your fingers CAN operate independently of your brain.

moriah
09-08-1999, 10:54 PM
Why do the magickal powers that be care if the space in which you perform the magick is a cleansed sacred space or not? Is dust antithetical to magickal forces? Or is a god or spirit involved who is anal retentive?

Byzantine
09-09-1999, 05:16 AM
Brithael

Okay, I'm gonna be nice just because I'm in the mood (let's see how long this lasts). Love spell? Do you really want one or are you just being a fuck-knock?

Your post is nothing but mis-matched, badly mangled, some would say (and I'd agree) ripped off forged postings from other know-nothings that try (in vain) to slam the witches here while desperately trying to build them up.

My personal opinion? You want to slam them but get them to tell you how to do something you so desperately want. If that's the case.... LOSER!

Love is a powerful emotion that a novice (such as yourself) shouldn't even begin to fuck around with. Why don't you start out with understanding or compassion?

I hate to judge but going by the few posts you've made I'd work more on compassion rather than jumping right to the big gun of love.

But hey, it's just IMHO.

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C K Dexter Haven
09-09-1999, 08:32 AM
I firmly believe in love spells. L-O-V-E is the most commonly accepted love spell, but of course A-M-O-U-R is also an acceptable love spell. The Chinese, not having an alphabet, are unable to do a love spell, of course, but --- MMMF! GMMPHP!

[ This post has been edited by Board Administrators to limit the pain of readers ]

Byzantine
09-09-1999, 08:44 AM
CKDex

you are a load!

and I love you anyway! Ohhhh

LOVE...

and yet there is

LOAD....

whatever....

tracer
09-09-1999, 02:12 PM
Byzantine wrote, re Brithael's OP:

My personal opinion? You want to slam them but get them to tell you how to do something you so desperately want. If that's the case.... LOSER!

That wasn't the impression I got at all. As bad as the grammar, punctuation, and choice-of-forum was in Brithael's post, he seemed to honestly believe in the Wiccan stuff he was talking about. I saw nothing in his post that was a "slam".

Of course, since magickckick spells are supposed to have a measurable effect in the real world, they're subject to scientific verification or disproof. That brings them out of the realm of religion. So ... d'you have any double-blind placebo test results of Wicca claims handy?

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ChiefScott
09-09-1999, 02:48 PM
I don't know nuthin' 'bout castin' no spells.

But...

Ja ever consider a nice dinner which you cooked for her.

A conversation soley about her asperations.

Calling as early as possible the morning after your first date.

Flowers.

Walking and holding hands.

Works for me.

Lucky
09-09-1999, 03:02 PM
ChiefScott said;
A conversation soley about her asperations.

Do you really do this? Damned, I've been hanging out with the wrong men!



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ChiefScott
09-09-1999, 03:19 PM
We're out here. But women are normally reluctant to dump us back on the market.

DrFidelius
09-09-1999, 04:02 PM
I'm sorry Chief, but I got an image of a conversation about her sputum. Perils of the trade, I guess...

ChiefScott
09-09-1999, 04:04 PM
***Gulp!***

Brithael
09-09-1999, 06:45 PM
OK lets clear this up right now. There was a question in one of the older posts about a love spell and the response was too light hearted and poking fun. I was addressing that. I can do my own Love spells thank you..not that i really think it necessary.
Oh yes and this thing about grammar. Is this a discussion forum or a fucking English class? COntent Content so I failed keyboarding. Lest start another thread abot that ok?

ChiefScott
09-09-1999, 07:29 PM
OK, let's clear this up right now.
There was a question in one of the older posts about a love spell. The response was too light-hearted and poked fun at it. It was that spell to which I was referring.

I can do my own love spells, thank you (not that I think it is necessary).
Oh, yes... this thing about grammar. Is this a discussion forum or a fucking English class? Deal with the content of my posts not my spelling. So I failed typing...
Let's start another thread about that. OK?

Boy, that wasn't too tough.

C K Dexter Haven
09-09-1999, 09:38 PM
There's a class about fucking the English? ... do you mean literally (as in making love to) or figuratively (as in getting the better of)?

ChiefScott
09-09-1999, 09:40 PM
It's shagging, baby!

AuraSeer
09-09-1999, 09:50 PM
What Jimmy Swaggart and Joe Phelps do for Christianity, Brithael and Banshee_ do for paganism. Yes, I'm embarrassed by association.

Brithael, if you are actually stupid enough to fail keyboarding-- which is only the easiest high school class that has ever existed-- you're only compounding the error by telling people about it. Why don't you quit now, before you make yourself look any sillier.

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Kat
09-10-1999, 02:15 AM
Oh yes and this thing about grammar. Is this a discussion forum or a fucking English class? COntent Content so I failed keyboarding. Lest start another thread abot that ok?

Yes, it's a discussion board (Actually, if you bothered reading the descriptions of the forums, you might have noticed this is the BBQ Pit. If you want a discussion, you might try posting in the correct forum, such as General Questions (to discuss facts), Great Debates (to discuss opinions) or Comments on Cecil's Columns (to discuss the columns, which some of your posts seem to be addressed towards.)) but you might have noticed that the discussions are made up of these things called words and sentences. If you use little or no correct punctuation, grammar and spelling, as you have done, no one can understand what you are saying.

how ezy ix ths santecne to unnerstan how bt th won stl think tht correk speelng nd grrmmrr nda punkation rnt mprtnt imgn if evry sngl pst i wrt or evn evry postt on th bord was lke ths how exy wold itbe to reed evn won theard

WHAT YOU say yours isnt as bad as the pargraph abov prhaps this won is a litle closr to you postng but its stil hard too read isnt it just face it, if yu want peeple to unnerstand wat yu r writin yu need to make an effort to make yor writin readable wich means use corect spelling corect grammer corect punctution CORRECT CAPItlztion no mater how much yu think it doesnt mater, it stil does

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ChrisCTP
09-11-1999, 12:13 AM
Isn't it wonderful being intellectually superiour?



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Astroglide
09-11-1999, 03:10 AM
superior?

Drain Bead
09-11-1999, 08:51 AM
Do Canadians spell it Lake Superiour?

matt_mcl
09-12-1999, 02:21 PM
No, because "superior"'s suffix is of a different origin from those of honour, colour, and neighbour.

-or in "superior" is a Latin comparative suffix. Superior means "higher", like "junior" means younger and "senior" means older.

The French is "Lac Supérieur".

Brithael
09-12-1999, 10:29 PM
What empty lives you must lead. There are better ways to correct someone. I was probably wrong for writing in here in the first place. BUt that doesnt excuse any of you. Maybe you're all just bored?

Czarcasm
09-12-1999, 10:59 PM
I apologize. You're right, there is a better way to convey our dissatisfaction with your writing style, so here goes nothing.

Why don't you go take grade school English and writing again, this time with your eyes open. In the meantime, quit drooling on the keyboard and shut the fuck up!
There. Was that clear enough?

Byzantine
09-13-1999, 01:17 AM
tracer– it was IMHO that it was a slam. Perhaps if Brithael could be more clear in his/her communication I wouldn't have taken it that way. No slam to you and a small slam to Brithael. That is just what I got from his/her OP.

Brithael-okay, you re-posted that you were seriously asking about a love spell. Sorry to slam you but really, I just got that slamming feeling from your post. No, this isn't an English lesson but you see what can happen if you are not clear in communicating to others. I'm not saying that everyone got the same impression I did but if you had written:

I read some mocking comments about Love Spells out here and wanted to know the straight dope about them. Help me out folks!

You would have gotten a completely different response from me and other posters. I don't go out here looking for people to slam (too easy) but if you "seem" to be saying something that I don't agree with or I find a slam to something I agree with, you will get an unfavorable response from me. And others.

Empty lives? Why? Because I know how to type and communicate effectively with others and expect them to do the same? Hmmmmm.....

P.S. Slythe, can I have your baby? I just love you!




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Czarcasm
09-13-1999, 07:07 AM
Anytime, Byzy. Where should I send the test tube?

evilbeth
09-14-1999, 04:58 AM
tracer-regarding your comment about magick spells having physically measured effects, the last time I checked with my Christian friends, their praying was supposed to have a measurable effect on the physical world ("Oh God, please don't let my house be carried off by the tornado!" "Oh God, please let my pet cat return home safely!") Does this mean that PRAYER must now be taken out of the realm of religion also? Show me their proof.

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Byzantine
09-18-1999, 04:54 AM
ChiefScott shared:
Ja ever consider a nice dinner which you cooked for her.
A conversation solely about her aspirations.
Calling as early as possible the morning after your first date.
Flowers.
Walking and holding hands

Wow, is it okay to say, like, I want you now, like real bad? You sound like my kinda guy! What a big ol' sugar stick! I envy your woman as I know you are taken :(

slythe– test tube? Can't I get the REAL THING! Man, I really hope C#3 comes in and sees this "aggressive flirting" of mine!

Oh and Brithael, what these two men have done? THAT'S a love spell! :)

WallyM7
09-19-1999, 04:57 AM
Am I missing something here?

I keep coming back here in the hopes that a light will go on and I can say, "Oh, NOW I get it."

It's not happening.

Is this in some kind of code?

Brithael, what the FUCK are you talking about?



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WallyM7
09-19-1999, 05:01 AM
Sorry about the language, people, but this is very frustrating.

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Temujin
09-19-1999, 05:51 AM
http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/001101.html

Kat
09-20-1999, 12:08 AM
No, Wally, you're not missing a thing. Brithael's post is totally and completely incomprehensible. Don't force yourself to try to make sense out of it, or you will go insane.

WallyM7
09-20-1999, 02:59 AM
Thanks, Kat.

I thought I was suffering from a severe case of terminal stupidity.

I'm not going to read that post again.

It makes my hair hurt.

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Byzantine
09-20-1999, 03:54 AM
Okay, I'm over my fight with Britael. Let's see if I can clean up this post:

I know there are hacks and cooks of all sorts but there is a lot of truth and sense in paganism if perused wholeheartedly and with some SENSE. That being said I wish to address the entry concerning the love spell.
There are some flaws to this well meaning response published here.

Firstly in order to even have the proper materials one must go through arduous preparation. This includes: The cleaning of a sacred space. The building of the altar. The purification of the Athame (??? used for cutting magic and channeling energies never for cutting and other satanic gibberish <I have no idea what he's talking about here>). This takes a long time. THEN you can start your "spell" if you wish to call it that.

I really do take offense at the seemingly good natured jokes made here. I don't think I need to quote that refuse or reproduce it here. Just take a bit more consideration for the things held dear to others if you will. Otherwise I really like this site and its purpose

Oh yeah and SEE, I complained without making the issue religious or spouting sophomoric obscenities like some of the ones who continually misrepresent Earth Friends by their actions and assuming that they are among us.... Blessed be!

With these small changes, it makes a lot more sense. Except that one part. What is an ATHAME? I am well versed and have several works of words at my hands but I can't find that word or anything like it.

Hey, sugar, I'm really being nice now. Tell me what that means and let's just put this sorry assed fight to rest, okay?

Byzantine
09-20-1999, 03:58 AM
Oh, fuck me nine ways to Sunday... I have no idea why it printed like that... Shit! I'm trying to make it better and just make it worse. Man. Okay, I'm going to bed now, something fucked with me and my keyboard.

AuraSeer
09-20-1999, 09:20 AM
An athame is a consecrated dagger or knife.

Donj
09-20-1999, 09:46 AM
If you all need a spell to find love I feel sorry for you. Using magic to find love? Do you use Rufies to get laid? Pathetic either way id say.

Don Juan the Latin Lover of Women

tracer
09-20-1999, 06:36 PM
ChiefScott wrote:

Ja ever consider a nice dinner which you cooked for her.
A conversation soley about her asperations.
Calling as early as possible the morning after your first date.
Flowers.
Walking and holding hands.

Of course, all these suggestions presuppose that you've already been able to convince her to go out with you in the first place, don't they?

(Not that I'm bitter. Grumble.)

Brithael
09-20-1999, 09:30 PM
Byz..an athame is just what Auraseer said :)
Donj ....this whole thread is about How an article on a love spell was presented. Noone here is currently seeking a set of instructions for one. Not that I advocate things like that...but I am not going to say they cannot be done.

"Byzantine has venomous tongue...where can I get one?"

neuro-trash grrrl
09-20-1999, 10:21 PM
Brithy, dearest, if you rub people you meet in real life the wrong way, the way that you seem to have rubbed the denizens of this board, you should probably start working on your own love potions posthaste.

Sam Stone
09-20-1999, 11:03 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Cecil Adam's website is about the last place you'd expect to find people who cast spells and talk seriously about 'magick'?

Dalcorn
09-20-1999, 11:49 PM
It's not just you.

AuraSeer
09-20-1999, 11:57 PM
Yeah, dhanson, you tell 'em! ;)

Brithael
09-21-1999, 03:03 PM
Havent you heard Neuro-? The wars over. And in my opinion "venomous tongue" is a compliment. Now normally i woul put something smart-assed right here..but i dont really want another conflict just yet. I have to do some studying in my insult book first hehe <JK>.
And in other news...WHY is it so hard for people to grasp that a person or persons would actually talk about Magick here?
Well not HERE but you know what I mean.
I find the religious debates very amusing. This in my opinion is on the same level.
and for the record yet again. I do not work Magick. Its not a necessary tenet of my belief system. and i think the guy who was asking for the Love spel was just trying to get a rise out of Cecil.

"any movement wasted..is lost"
-Bruce Lee

Sam Stone
09-21-1999, 04:11 PM
I don't expect to find *believers in Magick here. The Straight Dope has always been about rationality, rejecting things without logical basis or evidence, etc. So finding people here that believe in 'magick', new age crystals, etc. is somewhat akin to walking into a Flat-Earth society meeting and finding Stephen Hawking there.

tracer
09-21-1999, 07:57 PM
Well, you know the Earth is flat. If it weren't, we'd all fall off.

WallyM7
09-22-1999, 07:09 AM
Some do.

That's why we have Missing Persons Departments.

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