God Hates Fags - the song

[newcrasher]

OK. I don't have words.

This video is either sick, vile homophobia or brilliant satire.

***WARNING - NSFW *** (http://break.com/index/homophobic_christian_rock.html)

Is he struggling against his gay urges or condemning the trail of sacheting queers lecherously ogling his beefy bear goodness?

:confused:

[Lemur866]

Well, he thanked Andrew Sullivan for getting behind him.

I think it's pretty clear what he meant by that.

[Shagnasty]

I don't hate fags but I like it. I think he is trying to beat off his inner fag through musical cleansing. It starts off slow and a little sickly sweet in the beginning but it eventually gets down to business: "God hates fagggs, If you are a fag, he hates you tooooo!" That singing seems to counterproductive in a way though. It seems to encourage a lot more fags to crowd around him, hold hands, and whatever else they do for support. I doubt its much different to really be a fag most of the time.

[Ogre]

"To get into heaven, there's no back door."

Total satire, folks. Move along.

[Bryan Ekers]

Hoax. No question. I was chuckling at the "no back door [to Heaven]" lyric, and how "get on your knees" is rhymed with "sodomy". He's ridiculing Christian Rock and fundamentalists generally.

[Hung Mung]

That was fair-to-middlin' satire. Decent production values, though, so I give it a 6/10 for effort and blatantly stating that there's no back door to Heaven.

Better yet, read the replies and comments below the video. I'm not sure if they'll disappear or rotate so I'll quote my favorite:
I GAY FOR GOD
There i said it

[Duck Duck Goose]

It is, unfortunately, neither a satire nor a parody nor a hoax.

His webpage.
http://www.donniedavies.com/

His ministry.
http://lovegodsway.org/

He says he is a "reformed homosexual"; that Oscar Wilde, according to him also a "reformed homosexual", is his hero; and that by releasing a single entitled "God Hates Fags", he is actually preaching God's word.

As a Christian, I have no response to this other than an enormous "Ummm..." and an acute and sudden need to belong to some other church--Wiccan sounds good right about now.

[elucidator]

Was it Queer Al Yankovic? Be a dead giveaway.

[Duck Duck Goose]

And I might add that, in keeping with his trollish personality, he is positively reveling in all the attention his video is getting. From his ministry page:

Message From Donnie

It's been quite a day here at LGWM. We're still trying to get a handle on how this will affect our ministry. Donnie has filmed together a short update on all the attention, his perspective on people's opinions and some of the plans for the future. See it here.

WOW

The Response has been overwhelming!
We certainly were not expecting this much attention. But don't get us wrong, we will use it responsibly. I've been trying to respond to each and every email, so be patient. We'll be putting up another video this evening addressing some of the issues we're facing.

All press interest please refer to: Publicity

We've done some of the phone interviews and will try and get to all of them. Thank you so much for your interest in our Ministry.
Peace be with you
Donnie D.

Uh huh. :rolleyes: Hey, Fox, Reuters, bloggers: DNFTT, people.

[Rysdad]

The best thing about that page was that there was also a video of a guy having a sledding accident.

Crotch, meet tree.

Wouldst that it had been the singer.

[t-bonham@scc.net]

He should have fit the lyrics from Tom Robinson Band (http://www.tomrobinson.com/) into his song:
I got a friend in Jesus,
But we're just good friends, you see

[Swallowed My Cellphone]

"To get into heaven, there's no back door."

Total satire, folks. Move along.That's pretty funny satire. I forwarded it to my sister. She and her girlfriend will get a good laugh out of it. :D

"Reformed homosexual"... oh, he's SO not reformed.

[Jeeves]

Come one people, its not God Hates Fags, its God Hates A Fag. So its just one fag that has to worry about gods wrath.

[newcrasher]

Come one people, its not God Hates Fags, its God Hates A Fag. So its just one fag that has to worry about gods wrath.

Yeah, but if you're a fag, he hates you too.

[newcrasher]

On his "testimony" page it says he wasn't "gay"...he was "Gay".

I think it is possible to recover from being "gay", but if you openly admit you were "Gay", I think we can all agree you will smoke a pole at the drop of a pant- I mean hat.

....rimjob....

er....I mean

rimshot

[E-Sabbath]

Interestingly, Marilyn Manson used the same rhyme in Cake and Sodomy.

Does that mean something?

[newcrasher]

God hates robots (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2007/01/robot-rape.html)

[don't ask]

Is Donnie actor Todd Quillen (http://www.queerty.com/queer/scandal/donnie-davies-revealed-20070125.php). Seems like a joke to me. Even the Love God's Way site has a couple of laughs.

[Contrapuntal]

He says he is a "reformed homosexual"; that Oscar Wilde, according to him also a "reformed homosexual", is his hero; and that by releasing a single entitled "God Hates Fags", he is actually preaching God's word.Hey, if it worked for Oscar, it should work for everybody, right?

While I'm not advocating jailing all Homosexuals, I do think it would benefit them greatly. It would be for their own good.

This guy is barking spider voodoo crazy.

[Contrapuntal]

Missed the edit window, but had to add this link (http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands) of Gay Bands, or Bands to Watch Out For. My personal favorite -- Ted Nugent (loincloth)

People, you can't make this shit up.

[Kalhoun]

I don't hate fags but I like it. I think he is trying to beat off his inner fag through musical cleansing. It starts off slow and a little sickly sweet in the beginning but it eventually gets down to business: "God hates fagggs, If you are a fag, he hates you tooooo!" That singing seems to counterproductive in a way though. It seems to encourage a lot more fags to crowd around him, hold hands, and whatever else they do for support. I doubt its much different to really be a fag most of the time.
Heh-heh...you said beat off...heh-heh.

[Tyrrell McAllister]

It is, unfortunately, neither a satire nor a parody nor a hoax.

No, this is definitely satire. As Lemur866 pointed out, he thanks Andrew Sullivan for "getting behind" him (wink, wink) in his video here (http://lovegodsway.org/Blog/AmazingDay). Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual. Moreover, Sullivan makes it clear that he thinks the song is satire (http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2007/01/spoiler.html). Donnie Davies would not be praising Sullivan if Davies didn't want his work to be perceived as satire.

[Revtim]

While I'm not advocating jailing all Homosexuals, I do think it would benefit them greatly. It would be for their own good.Yeah, jail is a great place to go to try to rid yourself of homosexual behavior.

My vote is this guy is a satirist.

[Ponder Stibbons]

Leo: We'll never find the perfect script!
Max: Keep looking, I tell you. We'll ...
Leo: We'll what?
Max: I've found it. By god, I've found it!
Leo: Found it? :: peers over Max's shoulder :: "Springtime for Phelps"?
Max: It's perfect, I tell you!

[fluiddruid]

Missed the edit window, but had to add this link (http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands) of Gay Bands, or Bands to Watch Out For. My personal favorite -- Ted Nugent (loincloth)

People, you can't make this shit up.Oh, and Elton John is listed twice. The second time he is listed as "Elton John(really gay)".

Comedy gold.

[Duck Duck Goose]

he thanks Andrew Sullivan for "getting behind" him
Just because Andrew Sullivan wants to think it's satire doesn't make it so.

You're hearing a wink-wink, and I'm hearing a take on "Get thee behind me, Satan", from Matthew 16:23:
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he's saying, "I've put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke." So he isn't praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he's just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality "behind" him.

As someone already said, you can't make this shit up. And both websites IMO reek of gen-u-wine semi-literate clueless religious fanaticism. I've seen spoof religious websites before, like Landover Baptist, and they are much more polished and focused. And the satire is always quite pointed, and abundantly clear.

But the inane, disconnected ramblings here sound to me like the Real Thing. Somebody got himself a couple of domain names and a minicam, and decided to set up shop and preach the Gospel According To Him. It's what the Internet does best--enables all the Little People to make their tinfoilhatted voices heard--but sometimes the results are less than salubrious.

[kaylasdad99]

Is Donnie actor Todd Quillen (http://www.queerty.com/queer/scandal/donnie-davies-revealed-20070125.php). Seems like a joke to me. Even the Love God's Way site has a couple of laughs.On that site, the logo is the word QWEERTY spelled out in computer keyboard keys. But why do the keys have Braille dots on them?

[Lemur866]

Just because Andrew Sullivan wants to think it's satire doesn't make it so.

You're hearing a wink-wink, and I'm hearing a take on "Get thee behind me, Satan", from Matthew 16:23:
As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he's saying, "I've put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke." So he isn't praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he's just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality "behind" him.
I know you're a sheltered Christian lady, but surely you understand why he wants Andrew behind him. There is no back door to heaven.

As someone already said, you can't make this shit up.
Actually, you can. Somebody got himself a couple of domain names and a minicam and decided to set up a decidedly tongue-in-cheek...I mean...uh...

[Contrapuntal]

You're hearing a wink-wink, and I'm hearing a take on "Get thee behind me, Satan", from Matthew 16:23:
As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he's saying, "I've put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke." So he isn't praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he's just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality "behind" him. Now I'm leaning toward satire/hoax. Here (http://www.lovegodsway.org/Blog/AmazingDay) is the video where he thanks Sullivan. He is definitely not saying that he puts Sullivan behind him; he calls him a brilliant blogger and thanks him for his help.

I think don't ask is on to something. Looks like Todd Quillen to me. Their singing voices are similar as well.


Plus, Cindy Lauper is one of the "safe bands."

[supervenusfreak]

Missed the edit window, but had to add this link (http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands) of Gay Bands, or Bands to Watch Out For. My personal favorite -- Ted Nugent (loincloth)

People, you can't make this shit up.

He lists Cyndi Lauper as being a safe band/artist?

Someone has missed a She-Bop or two. I think his True Colors are definitely shining through... :D

[Contrapuntal]

He lists Cyndi Lauper as being a safe band/artist?

Someone has missed a She-Bop or two. I think his True Colors are definitely shining through... :DHey, girls just wanna have fun, right?

[supervenusfreak]

Now I'm leaning toward satire/hoax. Here (http://www.lovegodsway.org/Blog/AmazingDay) is the video where he thanks Sullivan. He is definitely not saying that he puts Sullivan behind him; he calls him a brilliant blogger and thanks him for his help.

I think don't ask is on to something. Looks like Todd Quillen to me. Their singing voices are similar as well.


Plus, Cindy Lauper is one of the "safe bands."

He does thank Andrew Sullivan "for getting behind him", then he briefly glances down, like he is trying not to laugh.

I have to say that after seeing this video I feel so very....extraordinary!

[Lemur866]

Or how about:

Morrissey(?questionable?)

You know, now that I think about it, I've always thought there's been something a bit "off" about Morrissey...but I haven't been able to put my finger on it....

[Contrapuntal]

Or how about:

You know, now that I think about it, I've always thought there's been something a bit "off" about Morrissey...but I haven't been able to put my finger on it....Not that he'd let you.

[Lemur866]

That's not a finger!

[Larry Borgia]

I like that the Dresden Dolls wound up on the "safe bands" list and Frank Sinatra wound up on the Gay bands list.

[Tyrrell McAllister]

Just because Andrew Sullivan wants to think it's satire doesn't make it so.

You're hearing a wink-wink, and I'm hearing a take on "Get thee behind me, Satan", from Matthew 16:23:
As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he's saying, "I've put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke." So he isn't praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he's just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality "behind" him.

Have you watched the video in question? This is my transcription of the portion where he mentions Sullivan:

[After giving a shout-out to "Tiana on YouTube" and "Madeleine on MySpace"] I also got to give a special thanks to Andrew Sullivan, the world famous blogger from Time Magazine---obviously a great Christian man helping us forge our message. Andrew took time to condemn YouTube for taking down our video and taking away our freedom of speech. Thank you so much, Andrew Sullivan, for getting behind me.

Ostensibly, he is praising Sullivan. The look on his face is completely sincere. Yet, no matter whether you are I am right, he is acting. If I am right, he is pretending to be an anti-homosexual bigot who is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that he is praising someone who would (were Davies being sincere) despise him. If you are right, Davies is still acting, because he is pretending to praise Sullivan as a "great Christian man" when in fact Davies thinks Sullivan is a fag whom God hates.

So, either way, he is doing some kind of sarcastic mockery. Even under your hypothesis, there is a subtle satirical element to what he is saying. The problem with your hypothesis, though, is that you would have him be a "gen-u-wine semi-literate clueless religious fanatic." That just doesn't seems consistent with the sort of ironic attitude required to speak the ostensibly sincere praise above while in fact believing that the object of his praise is evil.

[Annie-Xmas]

Bands to watch out for:

The Spores (endorse suicide)
Scissor Sisters
Rufus Wainwright
Merzbau
Ravi Shankar
Wilco
Bjork
Tech N9ne
Ghostface Killah
Bobby Conn
Morton Subotnik
Cole Porter
The String Cheese Incident
Eagles of Death Metal
Polyphonic Spree
The Faint
Interpol
Tegan and Sara
Erasure
Le Tigre
The Gossip
The Magnetic Fields
The Doors
Phish
Queen
The Strokes
Sufjan Stevens
Morrissey(?questionable?)
The Pet Shop Boys
Metallica
Judas Priest
The Village People
The Secret Handshake
The Rolling Stones
David Bowie
Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Man or Astroman
Richard Cheese
Jay-Z
Depeche Mode
Kansas
Ani DiFranco
Fischerspooner
John Mayer
Angel Eyes
The Indigo Girls
Velvet Underground
Madonna
Elton John
Barry Manilow
Indigo Girls
Melissa Etheridge
Eminmen
Nirvana
Boy George*
The Killers
Lou Reed
Lil' Wayne
Motorhead
Jill Sobule
Wilson Phillips
DMX
Lisa Loeb
Ted Nugent (loincloth)
Dogstar
Thirty Seconds to Mars
Lil' Kim
kd lang
Frank Sinatra
Hinder
Nickleback
Justus Kohncke
Bob Mould
Clay Aiken
Arcade Fire
Bright Eyes
Corinne Bailey Rae
Audioslave
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Panic at the Disco
Elton John(really gay)


I wonder how he feels about cast recordings?

[Tyrrell McAllister]

Sorry DDG. I just read your post more closely, and I see that you think Davies is sincerely praising Andrew for putting homosexuality behind him. I don't see how that could be, though, because Sullivan makes it clear that the music video is either sublime satire or horrifying bigotry when he links to it. There is just no way Davies could have thought that Sullivan was renouncing homosexuality. Besides, Davies doesn't even mention Sullivan's homosexuality in his remarks.

[Beware of Doug]

I wasn't aware Cole Porter ever led a band. Have some lost recordings come to light?

-BoD, watching out for them

[faithfool]

The second video of his, doesn't it draw obvious parallels between a thyroid condition (that he was 'born that way' with) making him overweight and what many assume to be true of homosexuality? It certainly seemed that way to me, if for no other reason than he mentioned it more than once. And I agree that he seems about thisclose to busting a gut, probably with disbelief that anyone would buy all of this for real.

My vote is for of course it's satire.



Oh, and besides what is (I suppose) apparent to these folks, why does Boy George get an asterisk next to his name and no one else? I'm sure at least Freddie Mercury would have liked one to. D'oh.

[Seven]

Missed the edit window, but had to add this link (http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands) of Gay Bands, or Bands to Watch Out For. My personal favorite -- Ted Nugent (loincloth)

People, you can't make this shit up.

Ok, so some of that list makes sense (Village People? Elton John? Boy George? Gay? Really?)

But why is Lisa Loeb on it?

[Talon Karrde]

It is, unfortunately, neither a satire nor a parody nor a hoax.

His webpage.
http://www.donniedavies.com/

His ministry.
http://lovegodsway.org/
Just because he has websites doesn't mean it's real. It still looks like satire to me.

Other than the lyrics, the song sounds exactly like the stuff they play on christian radio. Especially his voice. Just about every popular male christian singer sounds exactly like that.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Bands to watch out for:

...Ravi Shankar
!!!!!!

Yep. Satire, kids.

[Patty O'Furniture]

What, no Allan Parsons? Listen to "Games people play" some time.

[Kevbo]

On watching it, I would have given it a 7 as satire. On reading the comments that a fair number of folks think it might have been serious, I'll upgrade that to a 9.5.

Come ON folks, he's wearing a pink shirt and white pants already.

[chaoticbear]

I guess I found my proof that it is, indeed a hoax (http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2007/01/davies-exposed-as-actor-joel-oglesby.html) .