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Dunderman
02-08-2007, 09:03 AM
I settled down to watch an episode of MASH today, not knowing that it wasn't an ordinary half-hour episode but the two-and-a-half-hour series finale. After watching it I started reading about it on Wikipedia (I obsess over things) and came across the description of the final scene. It says the following:One of the final scenes of the episode is Hawkeye getting into a helicopter to fly out of the camp site on the first leg of his journey home, and seeing B.J. standing on the helipad below him as the chopper lifts off. The word GOODBYE is spelled out in white rocks on the ground. B.J. then gets on an appropriated motorcycle and rides off.It also shows this picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MASH_Goodbye.jpg), clearly showing someone standing next to the word GOODBYE.

Now, I'm prepared to swear up and down that he got on a motorcycle and rode away, then the helicopter took off and Pierce saw the word spelled out in rocks, and there was no-one standing there at the time. I just saw this twenty minutes ago.

So, am I crazy or is Wikipedia evil and trying to convince me that I'm crazy?

Finagle
02-08-2007, 09:07 AM
The wiki article says "promotional photo". So it's probably a still shot from the production, not a direct screen capture. Someone could have been standing there during the photo.

Skammer
02-08-2007, 10:34 AM
Sorry, but I remember BJ riding away after Hawkeye took off. However, that was like 25 years ago, so I wouldn't swear it under oath.

Revtim
02-08-2007, 10:47 AM
Sorry, but I remember BJ riding away after Hawkeye took off. However, that was like 25 years ago, so I wouldn't swear it under oath.Yeah, I strongly recall him riding the motorbike down the hill, and coming pretty close to wiping out. But this also is 25 year old memory, strong or not.

hajario
02-08-2007, 10:48 AM
Sorry, but I remember BJ riding away after Hawkeye took off. However, that was like 25 years ago, so I wouldn't swear it under oath.

Priceguy isn't disputing that. He's disputing that someone was standing next to the words written in rocks.

I saw that episode when it aired originally which was during my freshman year of college, and not since. My memory, which is admittedly clouded by a lot of recreational drug use for the several years following the event, is that there was no one standing by the rocks.

Skywatcher
02-08-2007, 10:49 AM
I think the article is poorly worded. I believe it is right about the chopper lifting off before BJ starts his ride down the hill but we don't see the "GOODBYE" until Hawkeye gets high enough to see it himself, at which time BJ is already down the hill.

Skywatcher
02-08-2007, 11:20 AM
Meant to edit that but was having trouble reloading the page.

We now know what message BJ was referring to when he was talking to Hawkeye in the chopper but the article implies we had already seen it, which was not the case.

Dunderman
02-08-2007, 11:23 AM
Priceguy isn't disputing that.I'm actually disputing that part too.

Anyway, my recollection is this: The helicopter is on the ground and Hunnicutt is giving Hawkeye a ride on his motorcycle to the helicopter. Pierce gives a little emotional speech and they say they're going to miss each other. Pierce enters the helicopter and Hunnicutt mounts the motorcycle. He shouts to Pierce that he left him a message, but Pierce doesn't hear him over the helicopter engine. Hunnicutt takes off down the hill (the ride is looking shaky; for a moment I thought he was going to crash and die) and Pierce gives the pilot a thumbs up signal. The helicopter takes off, and once it gets high enough Pierce sees the GOODBYE through the glass canopy. Roll credits.

This sequence of events, given that Pierce and Hunnicutt were the last two to leave, makes it pretty much impossible that someone was standing next to the GOODBYE, and especially impossible that Hunnicutt was.

scotandrsn
02-08-2007, 12:02 PM
I'm actually disputing that part too.

Anyway, my recollection is this: The helicopter is on the ground and Hunnicutt is giving Hawkeye a ride on his motorcycle to the helicopter. Pierce gives a little emotional speech and they say they're going to miss each other. Pierce enters the helicopter and Hunnicutt mounts the motorcycle. He shouts to Pierce that he left him a message, but Pierce doesn't hear him over the helicopter engine. Hunnicutt takes off down the hill (the ride is looking shaky; for a moment I thought he was going to crash and die) and Pierce gives the pilot a thumbs up signal. The helicopter takes off, and once it gets high enough Pierce sees the GOODBYE through the glass canopy. Roll credits.

This sequence of events, given that Pierce and Hunnicutt were the last two to leave, makes it pretty much impossible that someone was standing next to the GOODBYE, and especially impossible that Hunnicutt was.

That's my recollection of it too, but I thought the message was BYE BYE HAWK.

photopat
02-08-2007, 01:05 PM
So, am I crazy or is Wikipedia evil and trying to convince me that I'm crazy?

By the way, these are not necessarily contradictory concepts. ;)

Dunderman
02-08-2007, 04:57 PM
That's my recollection of it too, but I thought the message was BYE BYE HAWK.No, it was definitely GOODBYE. Pierce had been chiding Hunnicutt about not being able to say the word "goodbye".

Baldwin
02-08-2007, 05:38 PM
I remember B.J. riding off, and being chased by the Germans, and then he jumped this fence with his motorcycle and it was awesome, but then he got tangled up in some barbed wire. But I haven't seen the show in a while.

fiddlesticks
02-08-2007, 05:54 PM
I remember B.J. riding off, and being chased by the Germans, and then he jumped this fence with his motorcycle and it was awesome, but then he got tangled up in some barbed wire. But I haven't seen the show in a while.

<German-accent>Cooler!</German-accent>

Kizarvexius
02-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Well I'm glad somebody cleared that up for me. I was watching that episode back in -- what, 1983? -- when the power went out. There was a severe thunderstorm going on outside, and as I recall the lights were out throughout much of northern California (I lived near Monterey at the time).

Never did get to see how it ended.

photopat
02-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Well I'm glad somebody cleared that up for me. I was watching that episode back in -- what, 1983? -- when the power went out. There was a severe thunderstorm going on outside, and as I recall the lights were out throughout much of northern California (I lived near Monterey at the time).

Never did get to see how it ended.

Well it's a good thing nobody's mentioned that Hawkeye's chopper crashed on top of BJ.

kaylasdad99
02-08-2007, 07:39 PM
Pssssst! Spoiler! Spoiler! Ahh -- too late. Dang!

don't ask
02-08-2007, 07:44 PM
Then Hawkeye's chopper arrived. It was his turn to say goodbye. "Look, Beej, I know it's tough for you to say good-bye, so I'll say it. Maybe we will see each other again. In any case, I want you to know how much you meant to me." The men hugged. B.J. drove off on his motorcycle. Hawkeye's 'Huey' lifted off the chopper pad for its ascent over the Korean hills. As he looked down at the deserted 4077, Hawkeye smiled. B.J had left him a final message spelled out in stones.

Summary taken from 'The Complete Book Of M*A*S*H' Suzy Kalter

from this site (http://www.mash4077.co.uk/classic/goodbye.html)

Loach
02-08-2007, 08:05 PM
Then Hawkeye's chopper arrived. It was his turn to say goodbye. "Look, Beej, I know it's tough for you to say good-bye, so I'll say it. Maybe we will see each other again. In any case, I want you to know how much you meant to me." The men hugged. B.J. drove off on his motorcycle. Hawkeye's 'Huey' lifted off the chopper pad for its ascent over the Korean hills. As he looked down at the deserted 4077, Hawkeye smiled. B.J had left him a final message spelled out in stones.

Summary taken from 'The Complete Book Of M*A*S*H' Suzy Kalter

from this site (http://www.mash4077.co.uk/classic/goodbye.html)

Huey???? I just slammed my head into the table repeatedly. The OH-13 Sioux (http://www.aviation.army.mil/factsheets/oh13.html) was the aircraft seen in M*A*S*H. The UH-1 Iroquois better known as the Huey didn't enter service with the military until 1959.

threnodyangelfire
02-08-2007, 08:16 PM
I love MASH so much, despite the fact I was a little kid when it first aired. I need to watch the finale again now.

Voyager
02-08-2007, 08:44 PM
I remember B.J. riding off, and being chased by the Germans, and then he jumped this fence with his motorcycle and it was awesome, but then he got tangled up in some barbed wire. But I haven't seen the show in a while.
<Arte Johnson> Verrrry interesting. But confused. </Arte>

And B.J., right. Wasn't it DJ in Full House? :eek:

Swede Hollow
02-11-2007, 12:04 AM
Looking at the linked photo on Wikipedia, that looks like Alan Alda standing next to the "Goodbye". At least it sure looks like his stance/posture. So that picture really must be a publicity shot of M*A*S*H saying "See you in After-M*A*S*H!"

brianjedi
02-11-2007, 01:46 AM
<Arte Johnson> Verrrry interesting. But confused. </Arte>

And B.J., right. Wasn't it DJ in Full House? :eek:

Go to a place where films are rented or sold, and pick up a little movie called "The Great Escape." James Garner, James Coburn, Charles Bronson, Donald Pleasance, Steve McQueen.

mobo85
02-11-2007, 05:34 PM
And B.J., right. Wasn't it DJ in Full House? :eek:

Not only was there a female DJ in Full House, there was also a male DJ in Roseanne.

GargoyleWB
02-11-2007, 05:49 PM
Go to a place where films are rented or sold, and pick up a little movie called "The Great Escape." James Garner, James Coburn, Charles Bronson, Donald Pleasance, Steve McQueen.


thump-thump...catch. thump-thump...catch. thump-thump...catch

kittenblue
02-11-2007, 08:53 PM
Great. Just great. I have the final M*A*S*H episode on tape downstairs. I haven't watched it since I taped it back in the day. I have 5,000 other things to do, and I'm tired. But now I feel compelled to go find it and watch it. I'm going to resist, because it's late, but I will drag it out this week and watch it, just to make everyone happy.

Damn thing has probably deteriorated, and I swore I wouldn't watch it again, but research is research....